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| | | Author: | randyipp  | | Posted: | Apr 30, 2022 23:22 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 3 Part 4719c02 Red Bicycle (1-Piece Wheels) (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Change 3 Part Red 4719c01 Bicycle (2-Piece Wheels) {match ID 0 to 4}
Comments from Submitter:
From sealed sets (trying again)
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| | | | | Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | May 1, 2022 00:17 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 16 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 3 Part 4719c02 Red Bicycle (1-Piece Wheels) (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Change 3 Part Red 4719c01 Bicycle (2-Piece Wheels) {match ID 0 to 4}
Comments from Submitter:
From sealed sets (trying again)
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So far the 1-piece wheels came in sets starting 2011, but I have no idea how
long this set was in production. Does the box show a copyright after 2006?
Did the Bicycle come assembled or in separate parts?
All 4719c02 are listed in inventories as separate parts, with the complete bicycle
as counterpart.
I did notice that the 2-piece wheels are still in the inventory of
Wondering if the 1-piece wheel came far before 2011 already. It was added to
the catalog March 25, 2015, while set 9348-1 was inventoried February 19, 2011.
Paul added the 1-piece wheels as alternate in 2016. Wondering if the 2-piece
wheels ever came in this set.
Diana
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| | | | | | | Author: | randyipp | | Posted: | May 1, 2022 01:49 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | So far the 1-piece wheels came in sets starting 2011, but I have no idea how
long this set was in production. Does the box show a copyright after 2006?
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All the Boxes say 2006
| | Did the Bicycle come assembled or in separate parts?
All 4719c02 are listed in inventories as separate parts, with the complete bicycle
as counterpart.
|
Neither of the 1 piece and 2 piece bikes came assembled this time.
The 5 sets I opened in 2020 were all assembled, and were all 2 piece wheels.
| | I did notice that the 2-piece wheels are still in the inventory of
Wondering if the 1-piece wheel came far before 2011 already. It was added to
the catalog March 25, 2015, while set 9348-1 was inventoried February 19, 2011.
Paul added the 1-piece wheels as alternate in 2016. Wondering if the 2-piece
wheels ever came in this set.
Diana
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I opened 31 of the 9348 last year and 6 of the bikes were 2 piece wheels.
To add to this confusion 39 of the 310 heads were c variant in 9247-2.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | here4bricks614 | | Posted: | May 1, 2022 02:05 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | So far the 1-piece wheels came in sets starting 2011, but I have no idea how
long this set was in production. Does the box show a copyright after 2006?
|
All the Boxes say 2006
| | Did the Bicycle come assembled or in separate parts?
All 4719c02 are listed in inventories as separate parts, with the complete bicycle
as counterpart.
|
Neither of the 1 piece and 2 piece bikes came assembled this time.
The 5 sets I opened in 2020 were all assembled, and were all 2 piece wheels.
| | I did notice that the 2-piece wheels are still in the inventory of
Wondering if the 1-piece wheel came far before 2011 already. It was added to
the catalog March 25, 2015, while set 9348-1 was inventoried February 19, 2011.
Paul added the 1-piece wheels as alternate in 2016. Wondering if the 2-piece
wheels ever came in this set.
Diana
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I opened 31 of the 9348 last year and 6 of the bikes were 2 piece wheels.
To add to this confusion 39 of the 310 heads were c variant in 9247-2.
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Can you spot a 7-digit number anywhere near the barcodes? Are either of them
4598355?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyipp | | Posted: | May 1, 2022 12:37 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
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Can you spot a 7-digit number anywhere near the barcodes? Are either of them
4598355?
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That exact number was not on any of the boxes.
There was an interesting find through, 3 of the 10 did not have this 118789 number
underneath the barcode. Not sure what that gets us but it is something. The
rest of the numbers on each box matched exactly.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | here4bricks614 | | Posted: | May 1, 2022 14:32 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
| |
Can you spot a 7-digit number anywhere near the barcodes? Are either of them
4598355?
|
That exact number was not on any of the boxes.
There was an interesting find through, 3 of the 10 did not have this 118789 number
underneath the barcode. Not sure what that gets us but it is something. The
rest of the numbers on each box matched exactly.
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'4291790' is the set's ID. The 4563665 on the box flap suggests that
these are all the 2011 edition of this '2006' set. That is, if that 4563665
number means anything. I find it highly unlikely that a number reminiscent of
an item ID would be on a box flap for no reason. These may be from 2011.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | May 1, 2022 14:36 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
| |
Can you spot a 7-digit number anywhere near the barcodes? Are either of them
4598355?
|
That exact number was not on any of the boxes.
There was an interesting find through, 3 of the 10 did not have this 118789 number
underneath the barcode. Not sure what that gets us but it is something. The
rest of the numbers on each box matched exactly.
|
'4291790' is the set's ID. The 4563665 on the box flap suggests that
these are all the 2011 edition of this '2006' set. That is, if that 4563665
number means anything. I find it highly unlikely that a number reminiscent of
an item ID would be on a box flap for no reason. These may be from 2011.
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I think it is the item ID of the empty box per se.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 1, 2022 14:55 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
| |
Can you spot a 7-digit number anywhere near the barcodes? Are either of them
4598355?
|
That exact number was not on any of the boxes.
There was an interesting find through, 3 of the 10 did not have this 118789 number
underneath the barcode. Not sure what that gets us but it is something. The
rest of the numbers on each box matched exactly.
|
'4291790' is the set's ID. The 4563665 on the box flap suggests that
these are all the 2011 edition of this '2006' set. That is, if that 4563665
number means anything. I find it highly unlikely that a number reminiscent of
an item ID would be on a box flap for no reason. These may be from 2011.
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That is the item number for the set box.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | here4bricks614 | | Posted: | May 1, 2022 14:57 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
| |
Can you spot a 7-digit number anywhere near the barcodes? Are either of them
4598355?
|
That exact number was not on any of the boxes.
There was an interesting find through, 3 of the 10 did not have this 118789 number
underneath the barcode. Not sure what that gets us but it is something. The
rest of the numbers on each box matched exactly.
|
'4291790' is the set's ID. The 4563665 on the box flap suggests that
these are all the 2011 edition of this '2006' set. That is, if that 4563665
number means anything. I find it highly unlikely that a number reminiscent of
an item ID would be on a box flap for no reason. These may be from 2011.
|
That is the item number for the set box.
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Why would they be so far apart though? Could it be that later versions had a
box ID added?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 1, 2022 15:21 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
| |
Can you spot a 7-digit number anywhere near the barcodes? Are either of them
4598355?
|
That exact number was not on any of the boxes.
There was an interesting find through, 3 of the 10 did not have this 118789 number
underneath the barcode. Not sure what that gets us but it is something. The
rest of the numbers on each box matched exactly.
|
'4291790' is the set's ID. The 4563665 on the box flap suggests that
these are all the 2011 edition of this '2006' set. That is, if that 4563665
number means anything. I find it highly unlikely that a number reminiscent of
an item ID would be on a box flap for no reason. These may be from 2011.
|
That is the item number for the set box.
|
Why would they be so far apart though? Could it be that later versions had a
box ID added?
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Something else on the box changed over the time period. The set still had the
same item number, but something about the box was different. It could have had
a small change to the graphics, different material supplier, different cardboard
weight, etc. Whatever the reason, it was considered significant enough to have
a unique SAP number assigned to it.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | May 1, 2022 06:57 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | So far the 1-piece wheels came in sets starting 2011, but I have no idea how
long this set was in production. Does the box show a copyright after 2006?
|
All the Boxes say 2006
| | Did the Bicycle come assembled or in separate parts?
All 4719c02 are listed in inventories as separate parts, with the complete bicycle
as counterpart.
|
Neither of the 1 piece and 2 piece bikes came assembled this time.
The 5 sets I opened in 2020 were all assembled, and were all 2 piece wheels.
| | I did notice that the 2-piece wheels are still in the inventory of
Wondering if the 1-piece wheel came far before 2011 already. It was added to
the catalog March 25, 2015, while set 9348-1 was inventoried February 19, 2011.
Paul added the 1-piece wheels as alternate in 2016. Wondering if the 2-piece
wheels ever came in this set.
Diana
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I opened 31 of the 9348 last year and 6 of the bikes were 2 piece wheels.
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ok, but did they come assembled in the box, or in un-assembled frames and wheels?
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To add to this confusion 39 of the 310 heads were c variant in 9247-2.
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The heads are a different chapter when they are in minifigs in the set.
But if you know which heads, you can add the c-variants as alternate items.
Diana
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyipp | | Posted: | May 1, 2022 12:39 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 15 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
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ok, but did they come assembled in the box, or in un-assembled frames and wheels?
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They were not assembled.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | May 1, 2022 14:22 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
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ok, but did they come assembled in the box, or in un-assembled frames and wheels?
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They were not assembled.
|
Assembled parts only come in inventories as regular items, when they also came
assembled in the box. Otherwise the assembled bicycles should be listed as counterparts.
This means the assembled bicycles already in the inventory should be changed
to counterpart.
The new assembled bicycles should be added as counterpart.
No Match-id's for counterparts.
The bicycle frames should be added as regular
The 2-piece wheels as regular
The 1-piece wheels as alternate
Both with the same Match-ID (first free one)
Do you want to try again?
Diana
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyipp | | Posted: | May 1, 2022 14:35 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
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ok, but did they come assembled in the box, or in un-assembled frames and wheels?
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They were not assembled.
|
Assembled parts only come in inventories as regular items, when they also came
assembled in the box. Otherwise the assembled bicycles should be listed as counterparts.
|
But they have, just not this last time I parted out the sets. 9348-1 bicycles
have never been assembled as far as I can tell. I think Axaday also parted out
this set and had an assembled bicycle, but that is speculation.
| |
This means the assembled bicycles already in the inventory should be changed
to counterpart.
The new assembled bicycles should be added as counterpart.
No Match-id's for counterparts.
The bicycle frames should be added as regular
The 2-piece wheels as regular
The 1-piece wheels as alternate
Both with the same Match-ID (first free one)
Do you want to try again?
Diana
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If they have come both ways, which way takes precedence? I agree it would probably
make the most sense to switch them to counter part and have a match id on the
wheels only to be more in line with the rest of the sets.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 1, 2022 17:20 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| I am on my phone in the car headed home from Wichita. I should have pics from
opening this set last summer. I may have the bikes still also. I opened a bunch
of similar sets last summer and did not assemble bikes that didn’t Come that
way. I would like to think I would have made a request, but it is worth looking
at my records at home.
In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
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ok, but did they come assembled in the box, or in un-assembled frames and wheels?
|
They were not assembled.
|
Assembled parts only come in inventories as regular items, when they also came
assembled in the box. Otherwise the assembled bicycles should be listed as counterparts.
|
But they have, just not this last time I parted out the sets. 9348-1 bicycles
have never been assembled as far as I can tell. I think Axaday also parted out
this set and had an assembled bicycle, but that is speculation.
| |
This means the assembled bicycles already in the inventory should be changed
to counterpart.
The new assembled bicycles should be added as counterpart.
No Match-id's for counterparts.
The bicycle frames should be added as regular
The 2-piece wheels as regular
The 1-piece wheels as alternate
Both with the same Match-ID (first free one)
Do you want to try again?
Diana
|
If they have come both ways, which way takes precedence? I agree it would probably
make the most sense to switch them to counter part and have a match id on the
wheels only to be more in line with the rest of the sets.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 1, 2022 20:26 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| I have not found opening pics. I do forget to do it sometimes. I have 8 red
assembled bicycles and they all have 2 piece wheels. I checked that. All of those
would have come from the factory assembled. I have one red bicycle with 2 piece
wheels that is not assembled. Later I will see if I can work out provenance on
those.
In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | I am on my phone in the car headed home from Wichita. I should have pics from
opening this set last summer. I may have the bikes still also. I opened a bunch
of similar sets last summer and did not assemble bikes that didn’t Come that
way. I would like to think I would have made a request, but it is worth looking
at my records at home.
In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
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ok, but did they come assembled in the box, or in un-assembled frames and wheels?
|
They were not assembled.
|
Assembled parts only come in inventories as regular items, when they also came
assembled in the box. Otherwise the assembled bicycles should be listed as counterparts.
|
But they have, just not this last time I parted out the sets. 9348-1 bicycles
have never been assembled as far as I can tell. I think Axaday also parted out
this set and had an assembled bicycle, but that is speculation.
| |
This means the assembled bicycles already in the inventory should be changed
to counterpart.
The new assembled bicycles should be added as counterpart.
No Match-id's for counterparts.
The bicycle frames should be added as regular
The 2-piece wheels as regular
The 1-piece wheels as alternate
Both with the same Match-ID (first free one)
Do you want to try again?
Diana
|
If they have come both ways, which way takes precedence? I agree it would probably
make the most sense to switch them to counter part and have a match id on the
wheels only to be more in line with the rest of the sets.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 1, 2022 20:41 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| I will do a deeper check for opening pics soon, but I have had and sold too many
red bikes to be certain in the last year. But my preponderance of assembled bicycles
gives me a strong confidence that mine came that way. I definitely wouldn’t have
assembled them if they didn’t come that way and if they came unassembled And
I was expecting assembled, I very very likely would have made a change request.
I don’t remember if I was asked or recorded a date stamp from mine here. I may
still have the box. But something I already see that may help with the discussion
is that I added a variant minifig with a curved cap. That would indicate that
mine was manufactured at least as late as 2009. Long production run.
In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | I have not found opening pics. I do forget to do it sometimes. I have 8 red
assembled bicycles and they all have 2 piece wheels. I checked that. All of those
would have come from the factory assembled. I have one red bicycle with 2 piece
wheels that is not assembled. Later I will see if I can work out provenance on
those.
In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | I am on my phone in the car headed home from Wichita. I should have pics from
opening this set last summer. I may have the bikes still also. I opened a bunch
of similar sets last summer and did not assemble bikes that didn’t Come that
way. I would like to think I would have made a request, but it is worth looking
at my records at home.
In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| |
ok, but did they come assembled in the box, or in un-assembled frames and wheels?
|
They were not assembled.
|
Assembled parts only come in inventories as regular items, when they also came
assembled in the box. Otherwise the assembled bicycles should be listed as counterparts.
|
But they have, just not this last time I parted out the sets. 9348-1 bicycles
have never been assembled as far as I can tell. I think Axaday also parted out
this set and had an assembled bicycle, but that is speculation.
| |
This means the assembled bicycles already in the inventory should be changed
to counterpart.
The new assembled bicycles should be added as counterpart.
No Match-id's for counterparts.
The bicycle frames should be added as regular
The 2-piece wheels as regular
The 1-piece wheels as alternate
Both with the same Match-ID (first free one)
Do you want to try again?
Diana
|
If they have come both ways, which way takes precedence? I agree it would probably
make the most sense to switch them to counter part and have a match id on the
wheels only to be more in line with the rest of the sets.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 1, 2022 21:45 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| People will laugh at the conversation I am having with myself here!
I am not confident that I didn't take pictures when I opened this set. But
I would stand against taking the assembled bike out of the inventory. I feel
pretty sure that I got it in mine.
In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | I will do a deeper check for opening pics soon, but I have had and sold too many
red bikes to be certain in the last year. But my preponderance of assembled bicycles
gives me a strong confidence that mine came that way. I definitely wouldn’t have
assembled them if they didn’t come that way and if they came unassembled And
I was expecting assembled, I very very likely would have made a change request.
I don’t remember if I was asked or recorded a date stamp from mine here. I may
still have the box. But something I already see that may help with the discussion
is that I added a variant minifig with a curved cap. That would indicate that
mine was manufactured at least as late as 2009. Long production run.
In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | I have not found opening pics. I do forget to do it sometimes. I have 8 red
assembled bicycles and they all have 2 piece wheels. I checked that. All of those
would have come from the factory assembled. I have one red bicycle with 2 piece
wheels that is not assembled. Later I will see if I can work out provenance on
those.
In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | I am on my phone in the car headed home from Wichita. I should have pics from
opening this set last summer. I may have the bikes still also. I opened a bunch
of similar sets last summer and did not assemble bikes that didn’t Come that
way. I would like to think I would have made a request, but it is worth looking
at my records at home.
In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| |
ok, but did they come assembled in the box, or in un-assembled frames and wheels?
|
They were not assembled.
|
Assembled parts only come in inventories as regular items, when they also came
assembled in the box. Otherwise the assembled bicycles should be listed as counterparts.
|
But they have, just not this last time I parted out the sets. 9348-1 bicycles
have never been assembled as far as I can tell. I think Axaday also parted out
this set and had an assembled bicycle, but that is speculation.
| |
This means the assembled bicycles already in the inventory should be changed
to counterpart.
The new assembled bicycles should be added as counterpart.
No Match-id's for counterparts.
The bicycle frames should be added as regular
The 2-piece wheels as regular
The 1-piece wheels as alternate
Both with the same Match-ID (first free one)
Do you want to try again?
Diana
|
If they have come both ways, which way takes precedence? I agree it would probably
make the most sense to switch them to counter part and have a match id on the
wheels only to be more in line with the rest of the sets.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyipp | | Posted: | May 2, 2022 10:32 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | People will laugh at the conversation I am having with myself here!
I am not confident that I didn't take pictures when I opened this set. But
I would stand against taking the assembled bike out of the inventory. I feel
pretty sure that I got it in mine.
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Based on your inventory I too suspected the same thing, that plus my notes last
time I parted this set out I also would never assemble or disassemble bikes if
they came either way.
Haha, the more info we have here the better, even if it comes through multiple
messages.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | May 2, 2022 04:01 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | I have not found opening pics. I do forget to do it sometimes. I have 8 red
assembled bicycles and they all have 2 piece wheels. I checked that. All of those
would have come from the factory assembled. I have one red bicycle with 2 piece
wheels that is not assembled. Later I will see if I can work out provenance on
those.
In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | I am on my phone in the car headed home from Wichita. I should have pics from
opening this set last summer. I may have the bikes still also. I opened a bunch
of similar sets last summer and did not assemble bikes that didn’t Come that
way. I would like to think I would have made a request, but it is worth looking
at my records at home.
In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
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ok, but did they come assembled in the box, or in un-assembled frames and wheels?
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They were not assembled.
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Assembled parts only come in inventories as regular items, when they also came
assembled in the box. Otherwise the assembled bicycles should be listed as counterparts.
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But they have, just not this last time I parted out the sets. 9348-1 bicycles
have never been assembled as far as I can tell. I think Axaday also parted out
this set and had an assembled bicycle, but that is speculation.
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This means the assembled bicycles already in the inventory should be changed
to counterpart.
The new assembled bicycles should be added as counterpart.
No Match-id's for counterparts.
The bicycle frames should be added as regular
The 2-piece wheels as regular
The 1-piece wheels as alternate
Both with the same Match-ID (first free one)
Do you want to try again?
Diana
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If they have come both ways, which way takes precedence? I agree it would probably
make the most sense to switch them to counter part and have a match id on the
wheels only to be more in line with the rest of the sets.
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Not mine, but this helps?
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/lego-9247-community-workers-all-1863019660
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/lego-education-city-town-train-1540367707
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/lego-education-community-workers-set-3819290
There is also this other one that says its version -2 but without box.
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/lego-9247-education-community-workers-1815599690
Also the bags of the heads is separated in some.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | May 2, 2022 12:33 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Stellar writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | I have not found opening pics. I do forget to do it sometimes. I have 8 red
assembled bicycles and they all have 2 piece wheels. I checked that. All of those
would have come from the factory assembled. I have one red bicycle with 2 piece
wheels that is not assembled. Later I will see if I can work out provenance on
those.
In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | I am on my phone in the car headed home from Wichita. I should have pics from
opening this set last summer. I may have the bikes still also. I opened a bunch
of similar sets last summer and did not assemble bikes that didn’t Come that
way. I would like to think I would have made a request, but it is worth looking
at my records at home.
In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
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ok, but did they come assembled in the box, or in un-assembled frames and wheels?
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They were not assembled.
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Assembled parts only come in inventories as regular items, when they also came
assembled in the box. Otherwise the assembled bicycles should be listed as counterparts.
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But they have, just not this last time I parted out the sets. 9348-1 bicycles
have never been assembled as far as I can tell. I think Axaday also parted out
this set and had an assembled bicycle, but that is speculation.
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This means the assembled bicycles already in the inventory should be changed
to counterpart.
The new assembled bicycles should be added as counterpart.
No Match-id's for counterparts.
The bicycle frames should be added as regular
The 2-piece wheels as regular
The 1-piece wheels as alternate
Both with the same Match-ID (first free one)
Do you want to try again?
Diana
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If they have come both ways, which way takes precedence? I agree it would probably
make the most sense to switch them to counter part and have a match id on the
wheels only to be more in line with the rest of the sets.
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Not mine, but this helps?
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/lego-9247-community-workers-all-1863019660
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/lego-education-city-town-train-1540367707
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/lego-education-community-workers-set-3819290
There is also this other one that says its version -2 but without box.
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/lego-9247-education-community-workers-1815599690
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ooooh, why no box?  Looking at the parts it's not version 1 (yellow cone,
black tool wheel). But the other 3 (with the same box), also have yellow cone
and black tool wheel.
It looks like all 4 are from the same period and all have assembled bicycles.
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Also the bags of the heads is separated in some.
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| | | | | Author: | Turez | | Posted: | May 1, 2022 16:26 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 3 Part 4719c02 Red Bicycle (1-Piece Wheels) (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Change 3 Part Red 4719c01 Bicycle (2-Piece Wheels) {match ID 0 to 4}
Comments from Submitter:
From sealed sets (trying again)
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Are there any 4-digit batch codes on the sides of the boxes?
(Examples: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1142823 )
And to summarize this, in set 9247-2 you found (this time and/or last year)
not assembled and
assembled, yes?
And also 4719c02 assembled?
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| | | | | | | Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | May 2, 2022 07:09 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 3 Part 4719c02 Red Bicycle (1-Piece Wheels) (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Change 3 Part Red 4719c01 Bicycle (2-Piece Wheels) {match ID 0 to 4}
Comments from Submitter:
From sealed sets (trying again)
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Are there any 4-digit batch codes on the sides of the boxes?
(Examples: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1142823 )
And to summarize this, in set 9247-2 you found (this time and/or last year)
not assembled and
assembled, yes?
And also 4719c02 assembled?
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Just my thoughts, for I don't have time to do further research at the moment.
I don't know what a 4-digit batch code can tell us?
I asked about copyright year, because I also think it's a 2011 set.
If indeed it is, we might add a 2011 release to the catalog, because the box
is also different?
It would fit the following set with unassembled bikes
In that case we would not have to add the 1-piece wheel bike to this inventory.
But we can add the parts, alternate wheels and counterpart bikes to the 2011
set.
Without a 2011 set in the catalog, the inventory would become very complex, with
assembled and unassembled bikes.
I thought 1-piece bikes always came unassembled (not sure though), and TLG might
have packed the leftover 2-piece bikes unassembled as well at that time (2011-2012?)
Diana
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 2, 2022 08:41 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | Without a 2011 set in the catalog, the inventory would become very complex, with
assembled and unassembled bikes.
I thought 1-piece bikes always came unassembled (not sure though), and TLG might
have packed the leftover 2-piece bikes unassembled as well at that time (2011-2012?)
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Could 9247-2 and 9247-3 be easily distinguished from the box?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | May 2, 2022 12:17 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | Without a 2011 set in the catalog, the inventory would become very complex, with
assembled and unassembled bikes.
I thought 1-piece bikes always came unassembled (not sure though), and TLG might
have packed the leftover 2-piece bikes unassembled as well at that time (2011-2012?)
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Could 9247-2 and 9247-3 be easily distinguished from the box?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | May 2, 2022 13:42 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | Without a 2011 set in the catalog, the inventory would become very complex, with
assembled and unassembled bikes.
I thought 1-piece bikes always came unassembled (not sure though), and TLG might
have packed the leftover 2-piece bikes unassembled as well at that time (2011-2012?)
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Could 9247-2 and 9247-3 be easily distinguished from the box?
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Part count in
is 100 + 131 minifig parts = 231 (bicycles as 1 part assembly)
box image in BL catalog looks the same as the 202 pieces box, but without part
count
The inventory had about 34 additions of parts in 2015.
Same as in 9247-2? Maybe these parts shouldn't have been added in this version??
Part count in
is 106 + 130 minifig parts = 236 (bicycles as 1 part assembly)
BL catalog has 2 box images:
The one with 235 pieces, ánd
the one with 202 pieces (should be moved to 9247-1?)
It looks to me that the small box is the oldest one, with the orange cones.
But it's an image of a used set.
Can't find contents images of the 202 pieces box anywhere.
I'm afraid all this makes it even worse. For it doesn't solve the bicycle
issue.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | May 2, 2022 14:34 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | Without a 2011 set in the catalog, the inventory would become very complex, with
assembled and unassembled bikes.
I thought 1-piece bikes always came unassembled (not sure though), and TLG might
have packed the leftover 2-piece bikes unassembled as well at that time (2011-2012?)
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Could 9247-2 and 9247-3 be easily distinguished from the box?
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Part count in
is 100 + 131 minifig parts = 231 (bicycles as 1 part assembly)
box image in BL catalog looks the same as the 202 pieces box, but without part
count
The inventory had about 34 additions of parts in 2015.
Same as in 9247-2? Maybe these parts shouldn't have been added in this version??
Part count in
is 106 + 130 minifig parts = 236 (bicycles as 1 part assembly)
BL catalog has 2 box images:
The one with 235 pieces, ánd
the one with 202 pieces (should be moved to 9247-1?)
It looks to me that the small box is the oldest one, with the orange cones.
But it's an image of a used set.
Can't find contents images of the 202 pieces box anywhere.
I'm afraid all this makes it even worse. For it doesn't solve the bicycle
issue.
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Rectification, I meant
| | If indeed it is, we might add a 2011 release to the catalog, because the box
is also different?
It would fit the following set with unassembled bikes
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Layout looks the same, so could both be 2011?
similar box has piece count 202
2006?
Little mystery box 2005?
But inventory of 9247-1 was confirmed with 100 parts and 31 minifigures, makes
231 pcs? No images, so which box was opened?
Diana
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | May 2, 2022 15:31 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | Without a 2011 set in the catalog, the inventory would become very complex, with
assembled and unassembled bikes.
I thought 1-piece bikes always came unassembled (not sure though), and TLG might
have packed the leftover 2-piece bikes unassembled as well at that time (2011-2012?)
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Could 9247-2 and 9247-3 be easily distinguished from the box?
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Part count in
is 100 + 131 minifig parts = 231 (bicycles as 1 part assembly)
box image in BL catalog looks the same as the 202 pieces box, but without part
count
The inventory had about 34 additions of parts in 2015.
Same as in 9247-2? Maybe these parts shouldn't have been added in this version??
Part count in
is 106 + 130 minifig parts = 236 (bicycles as 1 part assembly)
BL catalog has 2 box images:
The one with 235 pieces, ánd
the one with 202 pieces (should be moved to 9247-1?)
It looks to me that the small box is the oldest one, with the orange cones.
But it's an image of a used set.
Can't find contents images of the 202 pieces box anywhere.
I'm afraid all this makes it even worse. For it doesn't solve the bicycle
issue.
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Rectification, I meant
| | If indeed it is, we might add a 2011 release to the catalog, because the box
is also different?
It would fit the following set with unassembled bikes
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Layout looks the same, so could both be 2011?
similar box has piece count 202
2006?
Little mystery box 2005?
But inventory of 9247-1 was confirmed with 100 parts and 31 minifigures, makes
231 pcs? No images, so which box was opened?
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Maybe as one year before the set release, on 2004, the minifig head and body
came assembled and counted as one part, even if they came separated in the final
round maybe the box count was done as the year before. But it would make it 200
pieces, so close but not a match... I tried.
https://www.bricklink.com/v3/inventorycomparison/main.page?sourceB=1&invB=9247&sourceA=0&invA=9247-1
At least 6 minifig+head pieces are still shown in the Lego replacement list.
The ones without picture on BL
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | May 6, 2022 03:12 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Stellar writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | Without a 2011 set in the catalog, the inventory would become very complex, with
assembled and unassembled bikes.
I thought 1-piece bikes always came unassembled (not sure though), and TLG might
have packed the leftover 2-piece bikes unassembled as well at that time (2011-2012?)
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Could 9247-2 and 9247-3 be easily distinguished from the box?
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|
Part count in
is 100 + 131 minifig parts = 231 (bicycles as 1 part assembly)
box image in BL catalog looks the same as the 202 pieces box, but without part
count
The inventory had about 34 additions of parts in 2015.
Same as in 9247-2? Maybe these parts shouldn't have been added in this version??
Part count in
is 106 + 130 minifig parts = 236 (bicycles as 1 part assembly)
BL catalog has 2 box images:
The one with 235 pieces, ánd
the one with 202 pieces (should be moved to 9247-1?)
It looks to me that the small box is the oldest one, with the orange cones.
But it's an image of a used set.
Can't find contents images of the 202 pieces box anywhere.
I'm afraid all this makes it even worse. For it doesn't solve the bicycle
issue.
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Rectification, I meant
| | If indeed it is, we might add a 2011 release to the catalog, because the box
is also different?
It would fit the following set with unassembled bikes
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Layout looks the same, so could both be 2011?
similar box has piece count 202
2006?
Little mystery box 2005?
But inventory of 9247-1 was confirmed with 100 parts and 31 minifigures, makes
231 pcs? No images, so which box was opened?
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Maybe as one year before the set release, on 2004, the minifig head and body
came assembled and counted as one part, even if they came separated in the final
round maybe the box count was done as the year before. But it would make it 200
pieces, so close but not a match... I tried.
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I probably counted the flippers as 2 in the 2006 version , but it has to be 1.
So:
9247-1 100 + 131 minifig parts = 231 (-/- 31 = 200 assembled torso/head)
9247-2 106 + 129 minifig parts = 235 (matches qty on box)
It is close, so could be. Maybe 2 parts were overlooked.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyipp | | Posted: | May 6, 2022 08:38 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Stellar writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | Without a 2011 set in the catalog, the inventory would become very complex, with
assembled and unassembled bikes.
I thought 1-piece bikes always came unassembled (not sure though), and TLG might
have packed the leftover 2-piece bikes unassembled as well at that time (2011-2012?)
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Could 9247-2 and 9247-3 be easily distinguished from the box?
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Part count in
is 100 + 131 minifig parts = 231 (bicycles as 1 part assembly)
box image in BL catalog looks the same as the 202 pieces box, but without part
count
The inventory had about 34 additions of parts in 2015.
Same as in 9247-2? Maybe these parts shouldn't have been added in this version??
Part count in
is 106 + 130 minifig parts = 236 (bicycles as 1 part assembly)
BL catalog has 2 box images:
The one with 235 pieces, ánd
the one with 202 pieces (should be moved to 9247-1?)
It looks to me that the small box is the oldest one, with the orange cones.
But it's an image of a used set.
Can't find contents images of the 202 pieces box anywhere.
I'm afraid all this makes it even worse. For it doesn't solve the bicycle
issue.
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Rectification, I meant
| | If indeed it is, we might add a 2011 release to the catalog, because the box
is also different?
It would fit the following set with unassembled bikes
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Layout looks the same, so could both be 2011?
similar box has piece count 202
2006?
Little mystery box 2005?
But inventory of 9247-1 was confirmed with 100 parts and 31 minifigures, makes
231 pcs? No images, so which box was opened?
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Maybe as one year before the set release, on 2004, the minifig head and body
came assembled and counted as one part, even if they came separated in the final
round maybe the box count was done as the year before. But it would make it 200
pieces, so close but not a match... I tried.
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I probably counted the flippers as 2 in the 2006 version , but it has to be 1.
So:
9247-1 100 + 131 minifig parts = 231 (-/- 31 = 200 assembled torso/head)
9247-2 106 + 129 minifig parts = 235 (matches qty on box)
It is close, so could be. Maybe 2 parts were overlooked.
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Flippers come on a sprue in this set.
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| | | | | | | Author: | randyipp | | Posted: | May 5, 2022 12:54 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 3 Part 4719c02 Red Bicycle (1-Piece Wheels) (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Change 3 Part Red 4719c01 Bicycle (2-Piece Wheels) {match ID 0 to 4}
Comments from Submitter:
From sealed sets (trying again)
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Are there any 4-digit batch codes on the sides of the boxes?
(Examples: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1142823 )
And to summarize this, in set 9247-2 you found (this time and/or last year)
not assembled and
assembled, yes?
And also 4719c02 assembled?
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Sorry, I got busy!
9247-2 last time I opened them had assembled 2 piece wheels only
this time it was both 1 and 2 piece wheels not assembled. I have never seen
a set with the 1 piece wheels be assembled.
Code on the seals are all 30O0
Adding these pictures of the boxes. I looked everywhere in case I had opening
pictures of the last few times I cracked these but could not find any.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | May 6, 2022 04:02 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 9247-2 | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, randyipp writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 3 Part 4719c02 Red Bicycle (1-Piece Wheels) (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Change 3 Part Red 4719c01 Bicycle (2-Piece Wheels) {match ID 0 to 4}
Comments from Submitter:
From sealed sets (trying again)
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Are there any 4-digit batch codes on the sides of the boxes?
(Examples: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1142823 )
And to summarize this, in set 9247-2 you found (this time and/or last year)
not assembled and
assembled, yes?
And also 4719c02 assembled?
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Sorry, I got busy!
9247-2 last time I opened them had assembled 2 piece wheels only
this time it was both 1 and 2 piece wheels not assembled. I have never seen
a set with the 1 piece wheels be assembled.
Code on the seals are all 30O0
Adding these pictures of the boxes. I looked everywhere in case I had opening
pictures of the last few times I cracked these but could not find any.
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I also found an image of thís box without part count.
Was thinking maybe TLG removed the part count on the old box, after they didn't
assemble minifig torso's with heads anymore.
And did the same with this box, when bicycles were not assembled anymore.
Unfortunately you still show boxes with 235 parts 
Btw, the smaller box in the image I added earlier, turns out to be the back of
the 2005 box.
Diana
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