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 Author: myixjetjet24 View Messages Posted By myixjetjet24
 Posted: Feb 11, 2022 01:42
 Subject: Conquistador Helmet TAN color
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Hello, I bought Conquistador Helmet TAN color and I can't find the set where
it came from. Not in the sets/minifigures listed on the set. Is this legit?
 Author: tonnic View Messages Posted By tonnic
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A few years ago I saw some large German sellers that had headgears etc. in other
than ‘catalog’ colors.
All real Lego but sold at special occasions or in Legoland if I am right. And
these were sold by Lego so legit.

Maybe this is the case with yours too.

In Catalog Identification, myixjetjet24 writes:
  Hello, I bought Conquistador Helmet TAN color and I can't find the set where
it came from. Not in the sets/minifigures listed on the set. Is this legit?
 Author: myixjetjet24 View Messages Posted By myixjetjet24
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ohh I see, yes it might be the case. The helmet looks legit , I'm just curious
where it came from. thanks!

In Catalog Identification, tonnic writes:
  A few years ago I saw some large German sellers that had headgears etc. in other
than ‘catalog’ colors.
All real Lego but sold at special occasions or in Legoland if I am right. And
these were sold by Lego so legit.

Maybe this is the case with yours too.

In Catalog Identification, myixjetjet24 writes:
  Hello, I bought Conquistador Helmet TAN color and I can't find the set where
it came from. Not in the sets/minifigures listed on the set. Is this legit?
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Feb 11, 2022 04:20
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In Catalog Identification, myixjetjet24 writes:
  Hello, I bought Conquistador Helmet TAN color and I can't find the set where
it came from. Not in the sets/minifigures listed on the set. Is this legit?

Tan is the color that LEGO uses to produce metallic gold parts. The part exists
in metallic gold in the collectible minifigs series. It just left the factory
before it got its coating.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Feb 11, 2022 04:23
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In Catalog Identification, Teup writes:
  In Catalog Identification, myixjetjet24 writes:
  Hello, I bought Conquistador Helmet TAN color and I can't find the set where
it came from. Not in the sets/minifigures listed on the set. Is this legit?

Tan is the color that LEGO uses to produce metallic gold parts. The part exists
in metallic gold in the collectible minifigs series. It just left the factory
before it got its coating.

About 5 or 6 years ago, one of the Chinese stores that sell mainly print faults
and unprinted parts had a few hundred of these. That might be the source.
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
 Posted: Feb 11, 2022 05:39
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In Catalog Identification, Teup writes:
  In Catalog Identification, myixjetjet24 writes:
  Hello, I bought Conquistador Helmet TAN color and I can't find the set where
it came from. Not in the sets/minifigures listed on the set. Is this legit?

Tan is the color that LEGO uses to produce metallic gold parts. The part exists
in metallic gold in the collectible minifigs series. It just left the factory
before it got its coating.

If thats true thats interesting to know. I'm aware of unreleased colours
but never really gave it much thought as to why that might be (apart from red
prototypes etc..) but since I have Breastplates in Tan and also Viking helmets
in Tan it would certainly make sense as these you would expect to find in colours
like gold or silver and maybe a few other colours but certainly not Tan

Could it be that these Reddish Bown Dwarf helemts were intended to be Copper?

 
Part No: 60748  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Castle with Cheek Protection and Studded Bands (Dwarf)
* 
60748 Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Castle with Cheek Protection and Studded Bands (Dwarf)
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Feb 11, 2022 06:11
 Subject: Re: Conquistador Helmet TAN color
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In Catalog Identification, infinibrix writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Teup writes:
  In Catalog Identification, myixjetjet24 writes:
  Hello, I bought Conquistador Helmet TAN color and I can't find the set where
it came from. Not in the sets/minifigures listed on the set. Is this legit?

Tan is the color that LEGO uses to produce metallic gold parts. The part exists
in metallic gold in the collectible minifigs series. It just left the factory
before it got its coating.

If thats true thats interesting to know. I'm aware of unreleased colours
but never really gave it much thought as to why that might be (apart from red
prototypes etc..) but since I have Breastplates in Tan and also Viking helmets
in Tan it would certainly make sense as these you would expect to find in colours
like gold or silver and maybe a few other colours but certainly not Tan

Could it be that these Reddish Bown Dwarf helemts were intended to be Copper?

 
Part No: 60748  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Castle with Cheek Protection and Studded Bands (Dwarf)
* 
60748 Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Castle with Cheek Protection and Studded Bands (Dwarf)
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear

Yes, I was also thinking about the Dwarf and Viking helmets I had some helmets
in Light Bluish Gray (for metallic silver) and Tan (for metallic gold). I never
had any Reddish Brown, but yes, Copper would make sense as (at least this type
of) Copper seems to be the same kind of metallic coating as the other two. And
maybe there are also some black parts out there that should be Speckle Black
Silver?
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
 Posted: Feb 11, 2022 06:58
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In Catalog Identification, Teup writes:
  In Catalog Identification, infinibrix writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Teup writes:
  In Catalog Identification, myixjetjet24 writes:
  Hello, I bought Conquistador Helmet TAN color and I can't find the set where
it came from. Not in the sets/minifigures listed on the set. Is this legit?

Tan is the color that LEGO uses to produce metallic gold parts. The part exists
in metallic gold in the collectible minifigs series. It just left the factory
before it got its coating.

If thats true thats interesting to know. I'm aware of unreleased colours
but never really gave it much thought as to why that might be (apart from red
prototypes etc..) but since I have Breastplates in Tan and also Viking helmets
in Tan it would certainly make sense as these you would expect to find in colours
like gold or silver and maybe a few other colours but certainly not Tan

Could it be that these Reddish Bown Dwarf helemts were intended to be Copper?

 
Part No: 60748  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Castle with Cheek Protection and Studded Bands (Dwarf)
* 
60748 Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Castle with Cheek Protection and Studded Bands (Dwarf)
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear

Yes, I was also thinking about the Dwarf and Viking helmets I had some helmets
in Light Bluish Gray (for metallic silver) and Tan (for metallic gold). I never
had any Reddish Brown, but yes, Copper would make sense as (at least this type
of) Copper seems to be the same kind of metallic coating as the other two. And
maybe there are also some black parts out there that should be Speckle Black
Silver?

In fact the more I think about it the more this seems to ring true as you have
this Troll King only found in one set but some came with Reddish Brown Crown
and some with a Copper Crown. My inital thought was that Lego made a mistake
and manufactured in the wrong colour or simply had a change of mind mid production
when it actually sounds likely they just had a quality control issue where they
forget the coating

 
Minifig No: cas420  Name: Fantasy Era - Troll King with Reddish Brown Crown
* 
cas420 (Inv) Fantasy Era - Troll King with Reddish Brown Crown
Minifigures: Castle: Fantasy Era
 
Minifig No: cas420a  Name: Fantasy Era - Troll King with Metallic Copper Crown
* 
cas420a (Inv) Fantasy Era - Troll King with Metallic Copper Crown
Minifigures: Castle: Fantasy Era
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Feb 11, 2022 08:07
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In Catalog Identification, infinibrix writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Teup writes:
  In Catalog Identification, infinibrix writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Teup writes:
  In Catalog Identification, myixjetjet24 writes:
  Hello, I bought Conquistador Helmet TAN color and I can't find the set where
it came from. Not in the sets/minifigures listed on the set. Is this legit?

Tan is the color that LEGO uses to produce metallic gold parts. The part exists
in metallic gold in the collectible minifigs series. It just left the factory
before it got its coating.

If thats true thats interesting to know. I'm aware of unreleased colours
but never really gave it much thought as to why that might be (apart from red
prototypes etc..) but since I have Breastplates in Tan and also Viking helmets
in Tan it would certainly make sense as these you would expect to find in colours
like gold or silver and maybe a few other colours but certainly not Tan

Could it be that these Reddish Bown Dwarf helemts were intended to be Copper?

 
Part No: 60748  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Castle with Cheek Protection and Studded Bands (Dwarf)
* 
60748 Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Castle with Cheek Protection and Studded Bands (Dwarf)
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear

Yes, I was also thinking about the Dwarf and Viking helmets I had some helmets
in Light Bluish Gray (for metallic silver) and Tan (for metallic gold). I never
had any Reddish Brown, but yes, Copper would make sense as (at least this type
of) Copper seems to be the same kind of metallic coating as the other two. And
maybe there are also some black parts out there that should be Speckle Black
Silver?

In fact the more I think about it the more this seems to ring true as you have
this Troll King only found in one set but some came with Reddish Brown Crown
and some with a Copper Crown. My inital thought was that Lego made a mistake
and manufactured in the wrong colour or simply had a change of mind mid production
when it actually sounds likely they just had a quality control issue where they
forget the coating

 
Minifig No: cas420  Name: Fantasy Era - Troll King with Reddish Brown Crown
* 
cas420 (Inv) Fantasy Era - Troll King with Reddish Brown Crown
Minifigures: Castle: Fantasy Era
 
Minifig No: cas420a  Name: Fantasy Era - Troll King with Metallic Copper Crown
* 
cas420a (Inv) Fantasy Era - Troll King with Metallic Copper Crown
Minifigures: Castle: Fantasy Era

Ha, that crown came to my mind, I didn't know it came out in Copper as well
- so yes that makes sense. Reminds of this variation;

 
Minifig No: pi114  Name: Imperial Soldier II - Shako Hat Plain
* 
pi114 (Inv) Imperial Soldier II - Shako Hat Plain
Minifigures: Pirates: Pirates II: Imperial Guards

 
Minifig No: pi090  Name: Imperial Soldier II - Shako Hat Printed, Scowl
* 
pi090 (Inv) Imperial Soldier II - Shako Hat Printed, Scowl
Minifigures: Pirates: Pirates II: Imperial Guards

Which also came out in the same year. Maybe because of costs or some production
reasons there can be variation in whether the print/coating is applied.