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| | | Author: | SezaR  | | Posted: | Feb 5, 2022 17:02 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 116-1 | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part x466c15blue White Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with two Blue 2-prong connectors, 15 Studs Long (Alternate) (match ID 99)
* Add 1 Part 3023 Black Plate 1 x 2 (Alternate) (match ID 99)
* Delete 4 Part trainrim Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (match ID 3)
* Delete 4 Part wheel2ac02 Red Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim) (Counterpart)
* Delete 4 Part trainrim Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Delete 4 Part wheel2a Red Train Wheel Spoked for Motor (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Change {10 to 9} Part Black 3023 Plate 1 x 2 {match ID 0 to 99}
* Change {5 to 4} Part Black 3022 Plate 2 x 2
* Change 1 Part Black bb0007 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 (Train) {match ID 1 to 99}
* Change 1 Part Black bb0007pb01 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 with White '4,5 V.' Pattern (Train) (Alternate) {match ID 1 to 99}
* Change 1 Part Black bb0006 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type B 12 x 4 x 3 1/3 (Train) (Alternate) {match ID 1 to 99}
* Change 1 Part Black bb0045c01 Electric 4.5V Battery Box 6 x 11 x 3 Type I for 1-Prong Connectors {match ID 2 to 99}
* Change 1 Part Black bb0045c02 Electric 4.5V Battery Box 6 x 11 x 3 Type II for 1-Prong & 2-Prong Connectors (Alternate) {match ID 2 to 99}
* Change 4 Part Red {wheel1b Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor to wheel1bc01 Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor with Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel1b / trainrim)} {match ID 4 to 99}
* Change 16 Part Red wheel1a Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Traction Teeth {match ID 5 to 99}
* Change 4 Part Red wheel2ac01 Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim) {Counterpart to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 99}
* Change 16 Part Red wheel2b Train Wheel Spoked for Wagon (Alternate) {match ID 5 to 99}
* Change 5 Part Red 737 Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Closed for Hook {match ID 6 to 99}
* Change 5 Part Red 737bc01 Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open with Hook {match ID 7 to 99 }
* Change 5 Part Red 737ac02 Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open for Magnet with Blue Magnet Coupling, Train - 7mm Cylinder (737a / x547b) (Alternate) {match ID 6 to 99}
* Change 5 Part Red 737ac01 Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open for Magnet with Same Color Magnet Coupling, Train - 7mm Cylinder (737a / x547b) (Alternate) {match ID 7 to 99}
* Change 1 Part White 996ac15blue Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with 2 Leads, 14 Studs Long with 4 Blue Electric, Connector, 1-Way Male Rounded with Hollow Pin (x466c14 / 996ac01) {match ID 0 to 99}
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| | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Feb 5, 2022 17:05 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 116-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part x466c15blue White Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with two Blue 2-prong connectors, 15 Studs Long (Alternate) (match ID 99)
* Add 1 Part 3023 Black Plate 1 x 2 (Alternate) (match ID 99)
* Delete 4 Part trainrim Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (match ID 3)
* Delete 4 Part wheel2ac02 Red Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim) (Counterpart)
* Delete 4 Part trainrim Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Delete 4 Part wheel2a Red Train Wheel Spoked for Motor (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Change {10 to 9} Part Black 3023 Plate 1 x 2 {match ID 0 to 99}
* Change {5 to 4} Part Black 3022 Plate 2 x 2
* Change 1 Part Black bb0007 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 (Train) {match ID 1 to 99}
* Change 1 Part Black bb0007pb01 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 with White '4,5 V.' Pattern (Train) (Alternate) {match ID 1 to 99}
* Change 1 Part Black bb0006 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type B 12 x 4 x 3 1/3 (Train) (Alternate) {match ID 1 to 99}
* Change 1 Part Black bb0045c01 Electric 4.5V Battery Box 6 x 11 x 3 Type I for 1-Prong Connectors {match ID 2 to 99}
* Change 1 Part Black bb0045c02 Electric 4.5V Battery Box 6 x 11 x 3 Type II for 1-Prong & 2-Prong Connectors (Alternate) {match ID 2 to 99}
* Change 4 Part Red {wheel1b Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor to wheel1bc01 Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor with Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel1b / trainrim)} {match ID 4 to 99}
* Change 16 Part Red wheel1a Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Traction Teeth {match ID 5 to 99}
* Change 4 Part Red wheel2ac01 Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim) {Counterpart to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 99}
* Change 16 Part Red wheel2b Train Wheel Spoked for Wagon (Alternate) {match ID 5 to 99}
* Change 5 Part Red 737 Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Closed for Hook {match ID 6 to 99}
* Change 5 Part Red 737bc01 Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open with Hook {match ID 7 to 99 }
* Change 5 Part Red 737ac02 Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open for Magnet with Blue Magnet Coupling, Train - 7mm Cylinder (737a / x547b) (Alternate) {match ID 6 to 99}
* Change 5 Part Red 737ac01 Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open for Magnet with Same Color Magnet Coupling, Train - 7mm Cylinder (737a / x547b) (Alternate) {match ID 7 to 99}
* Change 1 Part White 996ac15blue Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with 2 Leads, 14 Studs Long with 4 Blue Electric, Connector, 1-Way Male Rounded with Hollow Pin (x466c14 / 996ac01) {match ID 0 to 99}
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There are two versions of instructions.
The version 1966-68 is uploaded on peeron
http://www.peeron.com/scans/116-1/
The version 1969-71 is the same as that of 127
http://www.peeron.com/scans/127-1/
See
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1326144
For first version, I counted the following bricks:
5 step 4
3 step 6
2 step 7
3 step 7
1 step 7
3 step 3
2 step 6
6 step 7
2 step 8
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| | | | | | | Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Feb 6, 2022 02:27 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 116-1 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part x466c15blue White Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with two Blue 2-prong connectors, 15 Studs Long (Alternate) (match ID 99)
* Add 1 Part 3023 Black Plate 1 x 2 (Alternate) (match ID 99)
* Delete 4 Part trainrim Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (match ID 3)
* Delete 4 Part wheel2ac02 Red Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim) (Counterpart)
* Delete 4 Part trainrim Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Delete 4 Part wheel2a Red Train Wheel Spoked for Motor (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Change {10 to 9} Part Black 3023 Plate 1 x 2 {match ID 0 to 99}
* Change {5 to 4} Part Black 3022 Plate 2 x 2
* Change 1 Part Black bb0007 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 (Train) {match ID 1 to 99}
* Change 1 Part Black bb0007pb01 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 with White '4,5 V.' Pattern (Train) (Alternate) {match ID 1 to 99}
* Change 1 Part Black bb0006 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type B 12 x 4 x 3 1/3 (Train) (Alternate) {match ID 1 to 99}
* Change 1 Part Black bb0045c01 Electric 4.5V Battery Box 6 x 11 x 3 Type I for 1-Prong Connectors {match ID 2 to 99}
* Change 1 Part Black bb0045c02 Electric 4.5V Battery Box 6 x 11 x 3 Type II for 1-Prong & 2-Prong Connectors (Alternate) {match ID 2 to 99}
* Change 4 Part Red {wheel1b Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor to wheel1bc01 Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor with Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel1b / trainrim)} {match ID 4 to 99}
* Change 16 Part Red wheel1a Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Traction Teeth {match ID 5 to 99}
* Change 4 Part Red wheel2ac01 Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim) {Counterpart to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 99}
* Change 16 Part Red wheel2b Train Wheel Spoked for Wagon (Alternate) {match ID 5 to 99}
* Change 5 Part Red 737 Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Closed for Hook {match ID 6 to 99}
* Change 5 Part Red 737bc01 Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open with Hook {match ID 7 to 99 }
* Change 5 Part Red 737ac02 Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open for Magnet with Blue Magnet Coupling, Train - 7mm Cylinder (737a / x547b) (Alternate) {match ID 6 to 99}
* Change 5 Part Red 737ac01 Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open for Magnet with Same Color Magnet Coupling, Train - 7mm Cylinder (737a / x547b) (Alternate) {match ID 7 to 99}
* Change 1 Part White 996ac15blue Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with 2 Leads, 14 Studs Long with 4 Blue Electric, Connector, 1-Way Male Rounded with Hollow Pin (x466c14 / 996ac01) {match ID 0 to 99}
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There are two versions of instructions.
The version 1966-68 is uploaded on peeron
http://www.peeron.com/scans/116-1/
The version 1969-71 is the same as that of 127
http://www.peeron.com/scans/127-1/
See
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1326144
For first version, I counted the following bricks:
5 step 4
3 step 6
2 step 7
3 step 7
1 step 7
3 step 3
2 step 6
6 step 7
2 step 8
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There are 2 different versions indeed and a third version as DELUXE TRAIN SET,
Instructions H-2406 U.S.A..
The second version of set 116 is indeed identical to 127 (the instruction that
is).
But now you submitted the same change requests (plates) for set 127 and the first
version of set 116.
I will check the requests for both set 116 and 127 later.
Back in 2009 I didn't know about Match-id number 99. Or maybe it wasn't
even used at that time. But I already knew back then that there were 2 versions.
Unfortunately my comments are gone, so I will have to start over checking which
alternate items should have match id 99 indeed.
Diana
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Feb 6, 2022 07:06 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 116-1 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part x466c15blue White Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with two Blue 2-prong connectors, 15 Studs Long (Alternate) (match ID 99)
* Add 1 Part 3023 Black Plate 1 x 2 (Alternate) (match ID 99)
* Delete 4 Part trainrim Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (match ID 3)
* Delete 4 Part wheel2ac02 Red Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim) (Counterpart)
* Delete 4 Part trainrim Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Delete 4 Part wheel2a Red Train Wheel Spoked for Motor (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Change {10 to 9} Part Black 3023 Plate 1 x 2 {match ID 0 to 99}
* Change {5 to 4} Part Black 3022 Plate 2 x 2
* Change 1 Part Black bb0007 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 (Train) {match ID 1 to 99}
* Change 1 Part Black bb0007pb01 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 with White '4,5 V.' Pattern (Train) (Alternate) {match ID 1 to 99}
* Change 1 Part Black bb0006 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type B 12 x 4 x 3 1/3 (Train) (Alternate) {match ID 1 to 99}
* Change 1 Part Black bb0045c01 Electric 4.5V Battery Box 6 x 11 x 3 Type I for 1-Prong Connectors {match ID 2 to 99}
* Change 1 Part Black bb0045c02 Electric 4.5V Battery Box 6 x 11 x 3 Type II for 1-Prong & 2-Prong Connectors (Alternate) {match ID 2 to 99}
* Change 4 Part Red {wheel1b Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor to wheel1bc01 Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor with Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel1b / trainrim)} {match ID 4 to 99}
* Change 16 Part Red wheel1a Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Traction Teeth {match ID 5 to 99}
* Change 4 Part Red wheel2ac01 Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim) {Counterpart to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 99}
* Change 16 Part Red wheel2b Train Wheel Spoked for Wagon (Alternate) {match ID 5 to 99}
* Change 5 Part Red 737 Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Closed for Hook {match ID 6 to 99}
* Change 5 Part Red 737bc01 Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open with Hook {match ID 7 to 99 }
* Change 5 Part Red 737ac02 Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open for Magnet with Blue Magnet Coupling, Train - 7mm Cylinder (737a / x547b) (Alternate) {match ID 6 to 99}
* Change 5 Part Red 737ac01 Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open for Magnet with Same Color Magnet Coupling, Train - 7mm Cylinder (737a / x547b) (Alternate) {match ID 7 to 99}
* Change 1 Part White 996ac15blue Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with 2 Leads, 14 Studs Long with 4 Blue Electric, Connector, 1-Way Male Rounded with Hollow Pin (x466c14 / 996ac01) {match ID 0 to 99}
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There are two versions of instructions.
The version 1966-68 is uploaded on peeron
http://www.peeron.com/scans/116-1/
The version 1969-71 is the same as that of 127
http://www.peeron.com/scans/127-1/
See
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1326144
For first version, I counted the following bricks:
5 step 4
3 step 6
2 step 7
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The second version has those plates like above, total of 10.
The first version has the fifth plate of step 4 between the 2x3 plate and 2x2
slope (front of loco). Step 6 and 7 are the same as in the second version, total
also 10.
The second layer of the roof (step 7) needs 3 of these plates, which makes a
total of 6.
It is very hard to tell based on the instructions, but at the moment that is
all the 'proof' there is.
Maybe in the future someone can proof the exact plates for this second layer,
but my guess is, that this can only be proved by opening a sealed set and counting
all plates.
The second version indeed has those plates like mentioned above.
The first version has 2 in step 3, 1 in step 4 and 2 in step 6.
Both versions a total of 5.
Same for both versions.
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There are 2 different versions indeed and a third version as DELUXE TRAIN SET,
Instructions H-2406 U.S.A..
The second version of set 116 is indeed identical to 127 (the instruction that
is).
But now you submitted the same change requests (plates) for set 127 and the first
version of set 116.
I will check the requests for both set 116 and 127 later.
Back in 2009 I didn't know about Match-id number 99. Or maybe it wasn't
even used at that time. But I already knew back then that there were 2 versions.
Unfortunately my comments are gone, so I will have to start over checking which
alternate items should have match id 99 indeed.
Diana
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Although I checked very secure, I made some mistakes with changes on the black
plates 1x2 and 2x2, but it is all correct now. My apology for those mistakes.
To make it understandable all alternate parts between version 1 and 2 are now
in the inventory with match-id 99. This is exactly as the 2 sets I have in my
collection.
This doesn't mean for sure that all alternate items didn't come in both
versions though:
- all regular items came in the first version of this set
- alternate motor, battery box and wire came only came in the second version
of this set
- printed '116' bricks only came in the second version (see below)
- other alternate items could be found in both versions
I added 4 alternate match-id 99, for my oldest version came with 6 #3008 and
my second version with 4 #3008 and 2 decorated '116' bricks.
I believe the first version didn't have those decorated '116'
bricks, but I am not sure if the second version had them from the start
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The Inventory, including these changes are all made based on the 2 different
Instructions and by building those 2 versions of the set.
If anyone has a sealed set laying around (both versions), please feel very welcome
to add some clear images to this thread 
Diana
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Feb 6, 2022 18:47 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 116-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part x466c15blue White Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with two Blue 2-prong connectors, 15 Studs Long (Alternate) (match ID 99)
* Add 1 Part 3023 Black Plate 1 x 2 (Alternate) (match ID 99)
* Delete 4 Part trainrim Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (match ID 3)
* Delete 4 Part wheel2ac02 Red Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim) (Counterpart)
* Delete 4 Part trainrim Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Delete 4 Part wheel2a Red Train Wheel Spoked for Motor (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Change {10 to 9} Part Black 3023 Plate 1 x 2 {match ID 0 to 99}
* Change {5 to 4} Part Black 3022 Plate 2 x 2
* Change 1 Part Black bb0007 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 (Train) {match ID 1 to 99}
* Change 1 Part Black bb0007pb01 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 with White '4,5 V.' Pattern (Train) (Alternate) {match ID 1 to 99}
* Change 1 Part Black bb0006 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type B 12 x 4 x 3 1/3 (Train) (Alternate) {match ID 1 to 99}
* Change 1 Part Black bb0045c01 Electric 4.5V Battery Box 6 x 11 x 3 Type I for 1-Prong Connectors {match ID 2 to 99}
* Change 1 Part Black bb0045c02 Electric 4.5V Battery Box 6 x 11 x 3 Type II for 1-Prong & 2-Prong Connectors (Alternate) {match ID 2 to 99}
* Change 4 Part Red {wheel1b Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor to wheel1bc01 Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor with Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel1b / trainrim)} {match ID 4 to 99}
* Change 16 Part Red wheel1a Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Traction Teeth {match ID 5 to 99}
* Change 4 Part Red wheel2ac01 Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim) {Counterpart to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 99}
* Change 16 Part Red wheel2b Train Wheel Spoked for Wagon (Alternate) {match ID 5 to 99}
* Change 5 Part Red 737 Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Closed for Hook {match ID 6 to 99}
* Change 5 Part Red 737bc01 Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open with Hook {match ID 7 to 99 }
* Change 5 Part Red 737ac02 Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open for Magnet with Blue Magnet Coupling, Train - 7mm Cylinder (737a / x547b) (Alternate) {match ID 6 to 99}
* Change 5 Part Red 737ac01 Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Open for Magnet with Same Color Magnet Coupling, Train - 7mm Cylinder (737a / x547b) (Alternate) {match ID 7 to 99}
* Change 1 Part White 996ac15blue Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with 2 Leads, 14 Studs Long with 4 Blue Electric, Connector, 1-Way Male Rounded with Hollow Pin (x466c14 / 996ac01) {match ID 0 to 99}
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There are two versions of instructions.
The version 1966-68 is uploaded on peeron
http://www.peeron.com/scans/116-1/
The version 1969-71 is the same as that of 127
http://www.peeron.com/scans/127-1/
See
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1326144
For first version, I counted the following bricks:
5 step 4
3 step 6
2 step 7
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The second version has those plates like above, total of 10.
The first version has the fifth plate of step 4 between the 2x3 plate and 2x2
slope (front of loco).
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My first mistake. I had not seen this plate. Wow!
Step 6 and 7 are the same as in the second version, total
| | also 10.
The second layer of the roof (step 7) needs 3 of these plates, which makes a
total of 6.
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My second mistake: I didn't or couldn't see properly the second layer.
I thought there were one 2x2 and one 2x4 plates instead of three 2x2 plates.
Sorry for that.
| | It is very hard to tell based on the instructions, but at the moment that is
all the 'proof' there is.
Maybe in the future someone can proof the exact plates for this second layer,
but my guess is, that this can only be proved by opening a sealed set and counting
all plates.
The second version indeed has those plates like mentioned above.
The first version has 2 in step 3, 1 in step 4 and 2 in step 6.
Both versions a total of 5.
Same for both versions.
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There are 2 different versions indeed and a third version as DELUXE TRAIN SET,
Instructions H-2406 U.S.A..
The second version of set 116 is indeed identical to 127 (the instruction that
is).
But now you submitted the same change requests (plates) for set 127 and the first
version of set 116.
I will check the requests for both set 116 and 127 later.
Back in 2009 I didn't know about Match-id number 99. Or maybe it wasn't
even used at that time. But I already knew back then that there were 2 versions.
Unfortunately my comments are gone, so I will have to start over checking which
alternate items should have match id 99 indeed.
Diana
|
Although I checked very secure, I made some mistakes with changes on the black
plates 1x2 and 2x2, but it is all correct now. My apology for those mistakes.
To make it understandable all alternate parts between version 1 and 2 are now
in the inventory with match-id 99. This is exactly as the 2 sets I have in my
collection.
This doesn't mean for sure that all alternate items didn't come in both
versions though:
- all regular items came in the first version of this set
- alternate motor, battery box and wire came only came in the second version
of this set
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The black motor
[p=bb0007,11]
only came in very early releases of this set. For a short period of time in 1967
or just late 1967, the black (and blue) motors came with 4.5 Volt embossed on
them
The black (and blue) colors and this motor is orphan and I still don't know
if the black one was used in any copy of the early version train 116. It is gonna
be a relief if we find at least one used copy with black
The thing is that it is very hard to find a black or blue copy of this type
of motor.
| | - printed '116' bricks only came in the second version (see below)
- other alternate items could be found in both versions
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This train in both versions appear quite regularly in the market of Germany.
As of today, I have not seen any copy coming with decorated 1x8 bricks.
In Uk, the second copy came as set "127" so no such bricks in UK neither.
I have not checked the markets of Italy and France but it is interesting if these
bricks were only found in the Netherlands (and Belgium?), whether this is true
or not.
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I added 4 alternate match-id 99, for my oldest version came with 6 #3008 and
my second version with 4 #3008 and 2 decorated '116' bricks.
I believe the first version didn't have those decorated '116'
bricks, but I am not sure if the second version had them from the start
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So based on my findings in the market of Germany, I am pretty sure these bricks
were only used in very late production runs; an yet, there are two variations
of them.
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The Inventory, including these changes are all made based on the 2 different
Instructions and by building those 2 versions of the set.
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More changes to come.
| | If anyone has a sealed set laying around (both versions), please feel very welcome
to add some clear images to this thread
Diana
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Thanks for checking this set and these inventory change requests.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Feb 7, 2022 03:46 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 116-1 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| | | | | | | | | For first version, I counted the following bricks:
5 step 4
3 step 6
2 step 7
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The second version has those plates like above, total of 10.
The first version has the fifth plate of step 4 between the 2x3 plate and 2x2
slope (front of loco).
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My first mistake. I had not seen this plate. Wow!
Step 6 and 7 are the same as in the second version, total
| | also 10.
The second layer of the roof (step 7) needs 3 of these plates, which makes a
total of 6.
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My second mistake: I didn't or couldn't see properly the second layer.
I thought there were one 2x2 and one 2x4 plates instead of three 2x2 plates.
Sorry for that.
| | It is very hard to tell based on the instructions, but at the moment that is
all the 'proof' there is.
Maybe in the future someone can proof the exact plates for this second layer,
but my guess is, that this can only be proved by opening a sealed set and counting
all plates.
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With these old sets it's best to look at the Instruction, Box Images ánd
actually build the set.
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Canada, British Columbia
Netherlands, Gelderland
