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| | | Author: | gunga  | | Posted: | Jul 6, 2020 18:38 | | Subject: | Collecting the parts catalog | | Viewed: | 132 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...
Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.
Bill
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| | | | | Author: | iprice | | Posted: | Jul 7, 2020 05:20 | | Subject: | Re: Collecting the parts catalog | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, gunga writes:
| | Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...
Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.
Bill
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It would be a never-ending and very expensive hobby, that's for sure!
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| | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jul 7, 2020 05:33 | | Subject: | Re: Collecting the parts catalog | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, gunga writes:
| | Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...
Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.
Bill
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Do you mean including printed parts and printed minifigure parts? As then it
becomes almost a collection of all minifigures too. I think they look better
as minifigures rather than parts.
But there are certainly collectors of individual parts in many colours. Personally,
I like 1x2 plates and tiles.
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| | | | | | | Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Jul 7, 2020 06:08 | | Subject: | Re: Collecting the parts catalog | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, gunga writes:
| | Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...
Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.
Bill
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Do you mean including printed parts and printed minifigure parts? As then it
becomes almost a collection of all minifigures too. I think they look better
as minifigures rather than parts.
But there are certainly collectors of individual parts in many colours. Personally,
I like 1x2 plates and tiles.
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I have almost all the decorated 2x4 bricks. That is challenging enough.
Collecting the catalog would be Awesome, but I don't have the time and money
to even make a serious attempt.
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| | | | | Author: | hpoort | | Posted: | Jul 7, 2020 06:58 | | Subject: | Re: Collecting the parts catalog | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, gunga writes:
| | Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...
Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.
Bill
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With over 60.000 parts in the catalog (14.969 without pattern, https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?q=-pattern&catType=P),
it is a challenge indeed. Some shops come a long way:
https://www.bricklink.com/storeResults.asp?sMM=7&sDD=7&sYY=2020&itemSeq=1&breakType=M&sortBy=1&q=&itemType=P®ionID=-1
(But you can't really trust the numbers if they have duplicate lots)
I tend to think that - disregarding decorated parts - personally I have 'nearly
every part in most colors' but in truth, it is only a meager 2.407 of 14.969
unique parts or if I do count the colors separately, a 10.894 of who knows how
many part color combinations. But then again, I don't actually buy just to
collect the catalog. That is secondary to buying for building.
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 7, 2020 07:44 | | Subject: | Re: Collecting the parts catalog | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, hpoort writes:
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I tend to think that - disregarding decorated parts - personally I have 'nearly
every part in most colors' but in truth, it is only a meager 2.407 of 14.969
unique parts or if I do count the colors separately, a 10.894 of who knows how
many part color combinations.
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As of a few minutes ago, there were 52,433 PCC for parts in the catalogue.
But 17,695 have a “p” in their ID. That generally means they are decorated but
some are just multicoloured.
And 10,916 have a “c” in their ID. So they are composites and their composing
parts may already be counted, or not.
(Some cXX parts have no subparts, some subparts may not have PCCs, and you might
want to count the subparts and the composite or only the composite or only the
subparts….)
And some (~8600) have a “c” AND a “p” in their ID, but I didn’t dig deeper into
the IDs.
Plus, there a few doublets, e.g. parts from parts packs share a PCC.
And that doesn’t say how many parts exists but have no PCC in the catalogue.
I’d guess mostly parts not in a set or in older sets but there may still be
many thousands of them.
So, er, well, yeah, who knows how many part colour combinations?  
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collect the catalog. That is secondary to buying for building.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | hpoort | | Posted: | Jul 8, 2020 02:27 | | Subject: | Re: Collecting the parts catalog | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, hpoort writes:
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I tend to think that - disregarding decorated parts - personally I have 'nearly
every part in most colors' but in truth, it is only a meager 2.407 of 14.969
unique parts or if I do count the colors separately, a 10.894 of who knows how
many part color combinations.
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As of a few minutes ago, there were 52,433 PCC for parts in the catalogue.
But 17,695 have a “p” in their ID. That generally means they are decorated but
some are just multicoloured.
And 10,916 have a “c” in their ID. So they are composites and their composing
parts may already be counted, or not.
(Some cXX parts have no subparts, some subparts may not have PCCs, and you might
want to count the subparts and the composite or only the composite or only the
subparts….)
And some (~8600) have a “c” AND a “p” in their ID, but I didn’t dig deeper into
the IDs.
Plus, there a few doublets, e.g. parts from parts packs share a PCC.
And that doesn’t say how many parts exists but have no PCC in the catalogue.
I’d guess mostly parts not in a set or in older sets but there may still be
many thousands of them.
So, er, well, yeah, who knows how many part colour combinations?
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That shows the PCC list is far from complete and includes many duplicates (variants
not distinguished by Bricklink).
The easier answer finally came to me: it can be derived from the colors page
(https://www.bricklink.com/catalogColors.asp) by summing the appropriate column.
The 60.734 parts come in 81.263 color combinations in sets, as known on
Bricklink.
To be complete, the relevant summed columns are:
Known Parts: 81.263 unique part color combinations
On Wanted Lists: 182.281 unique part color combinations (so a great lot of wishful
thinking, hoping these parts will one day come available)
For Sale: 90.881 unique part color combinations (so a lot of factory escapes
or listing errors)
The 81.263 is including the patterned bricks, including variants, but excluding
parts that are not known to exist in sets. This last category includes all the
Modulex bricks as there seem to be no set inventories for these. Why is that?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 8, 2020 03:26 | | Subject: | Re: Collecting the parts catalog | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, hpoort writes:
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That shows the PCC list is far from complete and includes many duplicates (variants
not distinguished by Bricklink).
The easier answer finally came to me: it can be derived from the colors page
(https://www.bricklink.com/catalogColors.asp) by summing the appropriate column.
The 60.734 parts come in 81.263 color combinations in sets, as known on
Bricklink.
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Guh, it’s obvious now you say it
| | To be complete, the relevant summed columns are:
Known Parts: 81.263 unique part color combinations
On Wanted Lists: 182.281 unique part color combinations (so a great lot of wishful
thinking, hoping these parts will one day come available)
For Sale: 90.881 unique part color combinations (so a lot of factory escapes
or listing errors)
The 81.263 is including the patterned bricks, including variants, but excluding
parts that are not known to exist in sets.
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And including composites. Like wheel + tyre or torso + arms + hands.
So it’s still both including too many parts and not enough.
But I believe we can say the real number is between 32,000 (number of PCCs for
parts without a “p” or “c” in their IDs) and 91,000 (parts for sale).
The only way to go further would be first to correctly clean out the p## parts
(we can’t remove them all as some of them are not really “decorated,” like dual-mould
ones) and the c## parts (some of them not being inventoried), and then look into
the parts in sets and the parts for sale/sold (and hope there are not many listing
errors). And then there might still be a few very rare, not in sets, not for
sale, not recently sold parts out there.
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Modulex bricks as there seem to be no set inventories for these. Why is that?
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Don’t know. How were the Modulex distributed?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | starbeanie | | Posted: | Jul 27, 2020 13:58 | | Subject: | Re: Collecting the parts catalog | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Modulex didn't come in sets. Just bulk boxes. Like 200 1x6 blue.
In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, hpoort writes:
| | […]
That shows the PCC list is far from complete and includes many duplicates (variants
not distinguished by Bricklink).
The easier answer finally came to me: it can be derived from the colors page
(https://www.bricklink.com/catalogColors.asp) by summing the appropriate column.
The 60.734 parts come in 81.263 color combinations in sets, as known on
Bricklink.
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Guh, it’s obvious now you say it
| | To be complete, the relevant summed columns are:
Known Parts: 81.263 unique part color combinations
On Wanted Lists: 182.281 unique part color combinations (so a great lot of wishful
thinking, hoping these parts will one day come available)
For Sale: 90.881 unique part color combinations (so a lot of factory escapes
or listing errors)
The 81.263 is including the patterned bricks, including variants, but excluding
parts that are not known to exist in sets.
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And including composites. Like wheel + tyre or torso + arms + hands.
So it’s still both including too many parts and not enough.
But I believe we can say the real number is between 32,000 (number of PCCs for
parts without a “p” or “c” in their IDs) and 91,000 (parts for sale).
The only way to go further would be first to correctly clean out the p## parts
(we can’t remove them all as some of them are not really “decorated,” like dual-mould
ones) and the c## parts (some of them not being inventoried), and then look into
the parts in sets and the parts for sale/sold (and hope there are not many listing
errors). And then there might still be a few very rare, not in sets, not for
sale, not recently sold parts out there.
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Modulex bricks as there seem to be no set inventories for these. Why is that?
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Don’t know. How were the Modulex distributed?
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| | | | | Author: | Andrsv | | Posted: | Jul 8, 2020 04:01 | | Subject: | Re: Collecting the parts catalog | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, gunga writes:
| | Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...
Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.
Bill
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I'm trying, I've spent almost €20.000 so far  But only got 13.000 lots
so far. And I have duplicates as I distinguish new and used parts
This store is getting close: https://store.bricklink.com/GermanParts?p=GermanParts&sortBy=1&breakType=M#/terms
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| | | | | Author: | gunga | | Posted: | Jul 8, 2020 18:48 | | Subject: | Re: Collecting the parts catalog | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Such a collection would be an invaluable tool for the hobby, to be sure. While
1 person probably couldn't do it, dozens of people could.
Just an idea - Bricklink recruits members to collect a category (or several,
or part of one - I'm looking at you printed minifig torsos) to house the
"official" parts collection. How to implement such a undertaking, I haven't
a clue.
But imagine the sight and interest it would draw if the entire collection could
be shown at LEGO conventions/shows!
Obviously a LONG term project to be sure.
Bill
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| | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jul 8, 2020 21:56 | | Subject: | Re: Collecting the parts catalog | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, gunga writes:
| | Obviously a LONG term project to be sure.
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Not really a long-term project, just one that someone would have to throw some
$$ at (it would be a permanently ongoing project, of course). Basically what
you're describing is the need for a LEGO museum.
I've wanted for a very long time (at least 10 years) to see this happen:
a place where you could visit and see and interact with all the LEGO items in
the BrickLink catalog (sets, parts, gear, etc.). I think about it whenever someone
posts in the forum bragging about destroying a sealed set from 1980, for example,
just to part out the contents.
It is certainly possible to make this happen and it could be set up as a 501(c)(3)
nonprofit. There is only one LEGO museum in the U.S. (the PBM) and its focus
is not on this area. Even Billund does not have a true LEGO museum of all LEGO
items, at least not that I'm aware (the vault doesn't really count).
Anyway, all that would required to make a museum happen is a group of organizers
and some charitable donations.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 9, 2020 01:42 | | Subject: | Re: Collecting the parts catalog | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
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Anyway, all that would required to make a museum happen is a group of organizers
and some charitable donations.
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A bit like for the eradication of diseases like malaria or tuberculosis, or to
end of world hunger, or to attain global world peace… 
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | gunga | | Posted: | Jul 9, 2020 07:35 | | Subject: | Re: Collecting the parts catalog | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| A LEGO museum would be a fantastic idea. Dedicated to the history of the bricks
with the parts collection being the highlight. Similar places already exist
that highlight specific collections - the National Postal Museum comes immediately
to mind with their collection of stamps. So why not one for LEGO parts?
I would imagine that TLG would have to give its blessing to the project if it
were to succeed.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jul 9, 2020 11:10 | | Subject: | Re: Collecting the parts catalog | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, gunga writes:
| | I would imagine that TLG would have to give its blessing to the project if it
were to succeed.
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Not so. It would be nice to have official approval, of course, but a museum
could open and operate just fine without it. It just couldn't advertise
itself as a LEGO museum (which is why the existing museum is called the Toy and
Plastic Brick Museum).
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jul 9, 2020 11:14 | | Subject: | Re: Collecting the parts catalog | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, gunga writes:
| | A LEGO museum would be a fantastic idea. Dedicated to the history of the bricks
with the parts collection being the highlight. Similar places already exist
that highlight specific collections - the National Postal Museum comes immediately
to mind with their collection of stamps. So why not one for LEGO parts?
I would imagine that TLG would have to give its blessing to the project if it
were to succeed.
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There is the LEGO HOUSE in Billund that documents the history of both the company
and the product.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jul 9, 2020 11:29 | | Subject: | Re: Collecting the parts catalog | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | There is the LEGO HOUSE in Billund that documents the history of both the company
and the product.
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I've never visited, but from reviews I've read and pictures I've
seen this facility does not match the definition of a true LEGO museum in the
way we've been discussing.
That is, it does not display the entire range of LEGO products as pieces and
sets. In fact, from what I've seen in pictures, it doesn't even come
close.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jul 9, 2020 11:42 | | Subject: | Re: Collecting the parts catalog | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | There is the LEGO HOUSE in Billund that documents the history of both the company
and the product.
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I've never visited, but from reviews I've read and pictures I've
seen this facility does not match the definition of a true LEGO museum in the
way we've been discussing.
That is, it does not display the entire range of LEGO products as pieces and
sets. In fact, from what I've seen in pictures, it doesn't even come
close.
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There is a historical section which covers the history of the company and the
development of products, from wooden toys (and barns) through to more modern
day products. It is not a one-of-everything type display, more a showcase of
important stages in the development of todays product.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 9, 2020 11:43 | | Subject: | Re: Collecting the parts catalog | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
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I've never visited, but from reviews I've read and pictures I've
seen this facility does not match the definition of a true LEGO museum in the
way we've been discussing.
That is, it does not display the entire range of LEGO products as pieces and
sets. In fact, from what I've seen in pictures, it doesn't even come
close.
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There’s an onlive live tour (part 3 was today)
https://legohouse.com/en-gb/what-s-on/lego-house-live-tours/
Not sure if they will make them available for download sometime.
Anyway, I’d say you’re right on your assesment: it’s not a museum, just a few
toys.
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| | | | | Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jul 9, 2020 08:03 | | Subject: | Re: Collecting the parts catalog | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, gunga writes:
| | Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...
Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.
Bill
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Do you intent all the parts known to BrickLink? Or all the parts that exist?
E.g. the 3001 brick comes in 3 major differences on BrickLink, but if you count
all the (technical) differences then there are at least 42... so where
to draw the line?
Here you go, 42 different 2 x 4 bricks...
https://www.leggodt.nl/items/lego/parts.php?group=4&withimages=yes&language=en#top
Cheers,
Arnoud
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| | | | | | | Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Jul 9, 2020 16:01 | | Subject: | Re: Collecting the parts catalog | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
| | In Catalog, gunga writes:
| | Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...
Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.
Bill
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Do you intent all the parts known to BrickLink? Or all the parts that exist?
E.g. the 3001 brick comes in 3 major differences on BrickLink, but if you count
all the (technical) differences then there are at least 42... so where
to draw the line?
Here you go, 42 different 2 x 4 bricks...
https://www.leggodt.nl/items/lego/parts.php?group=4&withimages=yes&language=en#top
Cheers,
Arnoud
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That is one of the lists I started with. There are more than 42...
But I am STILL missing one of those! I can't believe how difficult it is
to find number 31!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/111441268@N03/4Q6N24
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| | | | | Author: | antant7 | | Posted: | Jul 9, 2020 12:12 | | Subject: | Re: Collecting the parts catalog | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, gunga writes:
| | Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...
Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.
Bill
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Sometimes if feels like my girlfriend is actively trying to do exactly that!
We get a new lot in, she does the rough sorting and assembly of any interesting
sets she can find, selects what she doesn't already have in the "play lego"
and gives me the leftovers for the shop.
I'm not complaining... I found the trick. I overwhelm her with parts and
I get a constant supply of (mostly vintage) sets and (eventually) enough parts
Ant
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