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| | | Author: | viejos  | | Posted: | Feb 16, 2017 12:10 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 1550-1 | | Viewed: | 103 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 3 Part 8c01 Light Gray Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheel Holder Bottom and Red Wheel with Black Tire 14mm D. x 4mm Smooth Small Single (8 / 3464 / 3139)
* Delete 3 Part 3139 Black Tire 14mm D. x 4mm Smooth Small Single
* Delete 3 Part 8 Light Gray Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheel Holder Bottom
* Delete 3 Part 3464 Red Wheel Center Small with Stub Axles (Pulley Wheel)
Comments from Submitter:
Please see following post.
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| | | | | Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Feb 16, 2017 12:44 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1550-1 | | Viewed: | 105 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 3 Part 8c01 Light Gray Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheel Holder Bottom and Red Wheel with Black Tire 14mm D. x 4mm Smooth Small Single (8 / 3464 / 3139)
* Delete 3 Part 3139 Black Tire 14mm D. x 4mm Smooth Small Single
* Delete 3 Part 8 Light Gray Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheel Holder Bottom
* Delete 3 Part 3464 Red Wheel Center Small with Stub Axles (Pulley Wheel)
Comments from Submitter:
Please see following post.
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This is a placeholder request for a proposed system-wide change. The small wheels
in older sets always came together when new, and it is my opinion that they are
best traded that way as well. In addition, there is a general tendency in inventory
work to list things as they came new, and in new inventories this is the accepted
practice, with the exception of animals (and of course, minifigs).
I have prepared a series of "answers" to statements both supporting and not supporting
this change. They can be found here in this pdf (please note, there are 4 pages):
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21557246/Wheels/Reasons.pdf
Also, I have prepared a spreadsheet listing exhaustively all wheels in the affected
categories, with different stages of the proposed changes noted in the left column:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21557246/Wheels/Spreadsheet.pdf
An abridged image of the spreadsheet in long format is attached below, along
with an image of an opened-but-still-sealed-in-bags set from 1991, showing the
parts inventory and the actual pieces in their "new" state (no, I did not assemble
the tires in the bag!  )
Please also note the set images for these service packs, which give a clear picture
of how these wheels originally came:
Thanks for considering this change. There are a number of members that have asked
for this over the years in one way or another, and maybe we will hear from some
of them as well.
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| | | | | | | Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Feb 16, 2017 13:55 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1550-1 | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
I support this change, but I have one remark about this spreadsheet. In the spreadsheet
you state that 122c01assy4 came assembled in new sets. If I remember correctly
this is the only case where 122c01 did not come with the tires already on the
wheels.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Feb 16, 2017 15:48 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1550-1 | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
I support this change, but I have one remark about this spreadsheet. In the spreadsheet
you state that 122c01assy4 came assembled in new sets. If I remember correctly
this is the only case where 122c01 did not come with the tires already on the
wheels.
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Thanks for that bit of information. The balloon tire was the only one with a
question according to the instructions, and it also was attached to an axle end
in many sets, where it was definitely separate. So we'll scratch that one
from the list.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Feb 17, 2017 00:09 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1550-1 | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
I support this change, but I have one remark about this spreadsheet. In the spreadsheet
you state that 122c01assy4 came assembled in new sets. If I remember correctly
this is the only case where 122c01 did not come with the tires already on the
wheels.
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Thanks for that bit of information. The balloon tire was the only one with a
question according to the instructions, and it also was attached to an axle end
in many sets, where it was definitely separate. So we'll scratch that one
from the list.
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Pdf spreadsheet adjusted plus a few other minor corrections. Just to clarify,
"together" or "broken" in the far right column means that this is how the assembly
appears in instructions.
"Listing" refers to how the assemblies are currently configured in BL inventories.
If no listing is mentioned, it is implied that the assemblies are all currently
separated.
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| | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 16, 2017 15:57 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1550-1 | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | This is a placeholder request for a proposed system-wide change.
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It sounds like too much work. Let's just leave it the way it is.
No, seriously, I read the PDF and you make a convincing case. Hope your changes
are accepted.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Feb 17, 2017 00:11 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1550-1 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | This is a placeholder request for a proposed system-wide change.
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It sounds like too much work. Let's just leave it the way it is.
No, seriously, I read the PDF and you make a convincing case. Hope your changes
are accepted.
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Thanks for the support!
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| | | | | | | Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Feb 24, 2017 23:57 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1550-1 | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | Please also note the set images for these service packs, which give a clear picture
of how these wheels originally came:
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I ran across a current BL sales image today that encapsulates in a snapshot what
could be prevented by making these changes. You can see that
...have been separated into what the inventory currently says:
...and it even looks as though:
* | | 8c01 (Inv) Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheel Holder Bottom with Red Wheel with Black Tire 14mm D. x 4mm Smooth Small Single (8 / 3464c01)
Parts: Aircraft |
...have been separated into:
...which is not exactly what the inventory says, but the small tire was likely
too difficult to get off.
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| | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2017 14:12 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1550-1 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
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I hope this doesn't detract from the specific issue you want to discuss,
but it is related. I was just checking the inventory of this set:
and I see that it comes with eight of
and 16 of
and 16 of
The box image (and likely the official part count) shows a total of eight assembled
parts (see attached image) and BrickLink's inventory shows 40 parts taken
apart. It seems to me like this has resulted in the set inventory being inflated
by 32 parts.
Surely these wheels didn't come in sets disassembled like this?
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| | | | | | | Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2017 14:23 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1550-1 | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
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I hope this doesn't detract from the specific issue you want to discuss,
but it is related. I was just checking the inventory of this set:
and I see that it comes with eight of
and 16 of
and 16 of
The box image (and likely the official part count) shows a total of eight assembled
parts (see attached image) and BrickLink's inventory shows 40 parts taken
apart. It seems to me like this has resulted in the set inventory being inflated
by 32 parts.
Surely these wheels didn't come in sets disassembled like this?
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I'm pretty sure those should be:
Those wheels look like they have pins. The 7049 part should be an outlier in
1996.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2017 14:29 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1550-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | I'm pretty sure those should be:
Those wheels look like they have pins. The 7049 part should be an outlier in
1996.
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So probably the same thing for these sets, too?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2017 14:44 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 1550-1 | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | I'm pretty sure those should be:
Those wheels look like they have pins. The 7049 part should be an outlier in
1996.
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So probably the same thing for these sets, too?
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The 1880 instructions show the 7049, and 9354 is a sealed source (plus another
soft confirmation with the addition of the alternate head). The end date of 7049
would be 1992.
So, no, I think the only error* is in the 1996 set.
*That is, the only error in the context of our conversation. I will never say
there are no more errors on BrickLink! 
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