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 Author: Vince View Messages Posted By Vince
 Posted: Dec 11, 2016 07:43
 Subject: new sets shouldn't be incomplete
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Vince (372)

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Hi,
I'm wondering why a new set can have the flag "incomplete". Talking about
a new! set means, that it is MISB or new in openend box. Everything else
are new parts that exist in several sets or maybe only in one set. But a Star
Wars set without the rare minifigs or a Maersk train set without the train can't
be a "new set".
Why is that important?
When you take a look at the price guide you often find new sets that are much
cheaper than others. But when you check the offer you see the "incomplete" mark
within the offer.
From my point of view "new set" means complete in box with instructions and ALL
parts, nothing else. For now, the price guide for "new sets" is useless because
I am able to sell a single 1x1 tile as a new set that is incomplete.
New sets with the flag "incomplete" should be listed under parts because that
is what they are - a collection of new parts from a set.
What do you think?

Sven
 Author: WhiteHorseMatt View Messages Posted By WhiteHorseMatt
 Posted: Dec 11, 2016 08:30
 Subject: Re: new sets shouldn't be incomplete
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In Suggestions, Vince writes:
  Hi,
I'm wondering why a new set can have the flag "incomplete". Talking about
a new! set means, that it is MISB or new in openend box. Everything else
are new parts that exist in several sets or maybe only in one set. But a Star
Wars set without the rare minifigs or a Maersk train set without the train can't
be a "new set".
Why is that important?
When you take a look at the price guide you often find new sets that are much
cheaper than others. But when you check the offer you see the "incomplete" mark
within the offer.
From my point of view "new set" means complete in box with instructions and ALL
parts, nothing else. For now, the price guide for "new sets" is useless because
I am able to sell a single 1x1 tile as a new set that is incomplete.
New sets with the flag "incomplete" should be listed under parts because that
is what they are - a collection of new parts from a set.
What do you think?

Sven

I have just bought two copies of a set I wanted a minifig from. One is MISB,
the other has clearly had several years of being played with.

If I take out the figs I want and sell the sets, I would want to list one as
used incomplete (with a list of what is missing), and one as new, incomplete.

This would demonstrate to a buyer the correct condition of the parts they are
getting.
 Author: Brickwilbo View Messages Posted By Brickwilbo
 Posted: Dec 11, 2016 09:10
 Subject: Re: new sets shouldn't be incomplete
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In Suggestions, Vince writes:
  Hi,
I'm wondering why a new set can have the flag "incomplete". Talking about
a new! set means, that it is MISB or new in openend box. Everything else
are new parts that exist in several sets or maybe only in one set.

  But a Star Wars set without the rare minifigs or a Maersk train set without the train
can't be a "new set".

Why is that important?
When you take a look at the price guide you often find new sets that are much
cheaper than others. But when you check the offer you see the "incomplete" mark
within the offer.

You should filter out the incomplete sets:
http://www.bricklink.com/priceGuideSettings.asp?viewFrom=P.

  
From my point of view "new set" means complete in box with instructions and ALL
parts, nothing else.

You contradict yourself to what you've stated above.
You do agree with the definitions of complete/incomplete.
http://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102

  For now, the price guide for "new sets" is useless because
I am able to sell a single 1x1 tile as a new set that is incomplete.

No, you can't because it's a tile and the listing will be reported.
Stores who do that risk of getting terminated.

  New sets with the flag "incomplete" should be listed under parts because that
is what they are - a collection of new parts from a set.
What do you think?

Sven
 Author: marlinjc View Messages Posted By marlinjc
 Posted: Dec 11, 2016 11:38
 Subject: Re: new sets shouldn't be incomplete
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Sven's suggestion seems extreme, but the concept is useful. The price guide
for both new and used sets is skewed when the minifigs and accessories or
a major component is removed from a set. I have often thought that a "partial
set" category for such items would be useful. It could list such things as just
the dragon or building from Lonely Mountain or the blue car in the potter set.
However, a few missing pieces or no box if clearly stated does not seem like
that big of a deal. The "sealed" notation rather clearly indicates when a set
is as put on the shelf. Quibbling over such things like extra pieces will just
complicate things -- especially for used sets.

A consideration in all of this is how much more space will be required to list
any new categories.


In Suggestions, Vince writes:
  Hi,
I'm wondering why a new set can have the flag "incomplete". Talking about
a new! set means, that it is MISB or new in openend box. Everything else
are new parts that exist in several sets or maybe only in one set. But a Star
Wars set without the rare minifigs or a Maersk train set without the train can't
be a "new set".
Why is that important?
When you take a look at the price guide you often find new sets that are much
cheaper than others. But when you check the offer you see the "incomplete" mark
within the offer.
From my point of view "new set" means complete in box with instructions and ALL
parts, nothing else. For now, the price guide for "new sets" is useless because
I am able to sell a single 1x1 tile as a new set that is incomplete.
New sets with the flag "incomplete" should be listed under parts because that
is what they are - a collection of new parts from a set.
What do you think?

Sven
 Author: kzinti View Messages Posted By kzinti
 Posted: Dec 11, 2016 16:57
 Subject: Re: new sets shouldn't be incomplete
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In Suggestions, Vince writes:
  Hi,
I'm wondering why a new set can have the flag "incomplete". Talking about
a new! set means, that it is MISB or new in openend box. Everything else
are new parts that exist in several sets or maybe only in one set. But a Star
Wars set without the rare minifigs or a Maersk train set without the train can't
be a "new set".
Why is that important?
When you take a look at the price guide you often find new sets that are much
cheaper than others. But when you check the offer you see the "incomplete" mark
within the offer.
From my point of view "new set" means complete in box with instructions and ALL
parts, nothing else. For now, the price guide for "new sets" is useless because
I am able to sell a single 1x1 tile as a new set that is incomplete.
New sets with the flag "incomplete" should be listed under parts because that
is what they are - a collection of new parts from a set.
What do you think?

Sven

My example:
 
Set No: 8487  Name: Flo's V8 Café {Cafe}
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8487-1 (Inv) Flo's V8 Café {Cafe}
254 Parts, 6 Minifigures, 2011
Sets: Cars: Cars 2
In the Cars sets, there was not a sub-category for each of the vehicles/characters,
so in order to list them, I had to put each one as a New, Incomplete set, then
have a description as to which vehicle/character was included in sale.
 Author: Biodreamer View Messages Posted By Biodreamer
 Posted: Dec 12, 2016 11:52
 Subject: Re: new sets shouldn't be incomplete
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In Suggestions, Vince writes:
  Hi,
I'm wondering why a new set can have the flag "incomplete". Talking about
a new! set means, that it is MISB or new in openend box. Everything else
are new parts that exist in several sets or maybe only in one set. But a Star
Wars set without the rare minifigs or a Maersk train set without the train can't
be a "new set".
Why is that important?
When you take a look at the price guide you often find new sets that are much
cheaper than others. But when you check the offer you see the "incomplete" mark
within the offer.
From my point of view "new set" means complete in box with instructions and ALL
parts, nothing else. For now, the price guide for "new sets" is useless because
I am able to sell a single 1x1 tile as a new set that is incomplete.
New sets with the flag "incomplete" should be listed under parts because that
is what they are - a collection of new parts from a set.
What do you think?

Sven

Lego sets can be incomplete ask Lego's own QA department. I have bought a
few sets from the store that has been missing parts. so if a seller knows something
is missing he should be able to sell them incomplete.