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| | | Author: | renhoffman  | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2016 00:00 | | Subject: | Minifigs and including accesories | | Viewed: | 254 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| I realize that up to now, minifigure accessories where not allowed to be included
in a minifigure inventory. But, times have changed. Many of the minifigures being
produced come in a set with the figure that would only come with a specific accesory,
examples...
and part
This part is for this figure, and Captain America is incomplete without the shield,
IMO.
Another one...
Isn't even Captain Marvel without her mask...
[3626cpb1469]
And...
Hawkman comes with 2 different wing sets, but only one is included. The other
one is useless, if it isn't included, IMO
And this one...
Again, he is not Magneto without the helmet, and what happened to the 2x2 round
plate that was included with the other version of Magneto?
Same as Hawkman, sh154 mentioned above.
Wolverine without claws...come on now, that is just wrong people.
Wolverine again, but unlike Magneto, he has his helmet, but not the hair, and
again, no claws!
Who is Wonderwoman without the lasso? I do know that the lasso came with another
figure, but still, Wonderwoman with no lasso?
Ah, a LEGO set with Wonderwoman, and no lasso, I guess that one doesn't actually
fit my argument  .
One example I did not include is Thor, There are several versions of Thor, and
none include the hammer...Thor without his hammer is like Wolverine without his
claws!
Anyway, now that super-lots are not included in the wanted-list searches, sellers
are forced to either list them separately, and risk running out of one before
the other, or, including them, and either taking the loss, or listing the figure
for higher than average. I think we should be thinking of changing the rules
from now on. These figures should include the accessories. That is what buyers
want. They don't want to have to scrutinize the listing for what is included.
They want what should be included. Please make new rules for listing figures,
that accounts for what buyers expect when they buy a figure.
Darren
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| | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2016 00:27 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigs and including accesories | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Please make new rules for listing figures,
| | that accounts for what buyers expect when they buy a figure.
Darren
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Well, not this buyer! One of the great things I like about BrickLink is that
you can buy the individual weapons and accessories when and if you want them.
It is a pretty big assumption that ALL buyers would prefer to always pay for
the extra items when ordering a minifig.
Just my two cents..
Good night!
Jen
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| | | | | | | Author: | renhoffman | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2016 00:37 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigs and including accesories | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | Well, not this buyer! One of the great things I like about BrickLink is that
you can buy the individual weapons and accessories when and if you want them.
It is a pretty big assumption that ALL buyers would prefer to always pay for
the extra items when ordering a minifig.
Just my two cents..
Good night!
Jen
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I did not say ALL buyers. I also didn't say some, or most either, I suppose
 . I am sure there would still be sellers willing to part out figures, as always,
so the individual parts would still be available. My point is that there currently
isn't a good option for sellers that do want to include the vital parts with
their minifigures. I wasn't expecting much with my post, the Cars characters
where never created, like me, and many other buyers wanted. trying to collect
all the characters turned out to be a useless cause. That's OK, I saved a
lot of $ in the long run...
Darren
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2016 00:52 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigs and including accesories | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I do see your point about sellers wanting more options when listing minifigs
or assemblies. But, when you said 'make new rules' it sounded to me like
you want to change the way we all have to buy and sell the minifigs. That's
all...
Take care,
Jen
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | renhoffman | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2016 00:59 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigs and including accesories | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I don't want to force anyone to do anything, although I have been forced
to remove super-lots, as they are not included in wanted searches, without any
warning. That's OK, people have been abusing the super-lot feature recently,
and it has resulted in bad press regarding them. In a few days, I will no longer
have any left. I would like an option to include accessories with minifigs though,
as that is the way I roll .
Darren
In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
| | I do see your point about sellers wanting more options when listing minifigs
or assemblies. But, when you said 'make new rules' it sounded to me like
you want to change the way we all have to buy and sell the minifigs. That's
all...
Take care,
Jen
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| | | | | Author: | Cob | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2016 00:44 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigs and including accesories | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I am glad you brought this up, I have been trying to find a listing of accessories
and parts that is used with minifigs. Example, this Stormtrooper has two parts
that are not in the minifig section.
[M=sw383]
Is there such a list?
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| | | | | | | Author: | renhoffman | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2016 00:51 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigs and including accesories | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| A list of non minifigure parts that are included in minifigure inventories? I
have never heard of a way to search those. It may be out there, somewhere .
Darren
In Suggestions, Cob writes:
| | I am glad you brought this up, I have been trying to find a listing of accessories
and parts that is used with minifigs. Example, this Stormtrooper has two parts
that are not in the minifig section.
[M=sw383]
Is there such a list?
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| | | | | Author: | QuarkyBricks | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2016 01:03 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigs and including accesories | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, renhoffman writes:
| | Anyway, now that super-lots are not included in the wanted-list searches, sellers
are forced to either list them separately, and risk running out of one before
the other, or, including them, and either taking the loss, or listing the figure
for higher than average. I think we should be thinking of changing the rules
from now on. These figures should include the accessories. That is what buyers
want. They don't want to have to scrutinize the listing for what is included.
They want what should be included. Please make new rules for listing figures,
that accounts for what buyers expect when they buy a figure.
Darren
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I don't think adding accessories to minifigure catalog listings is
the way to go. Perhaps a better option, one that would most likely accompany
an improved shopping cart/automated checkout, is the ability to add variations
to products in your stores. That way, on the product page or checkout screen,
a drop down box would appear next to the applicable item and allow the buyer
to select 'add Mjölnir + $0.75' or something similar. This way, sellers
can potentially sell more of the accessories and buyers can retain their freedom
of choice.
Chris
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| | | | | | | Author: | renhoffman | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2016 01:19 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigs and including accesories | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, QuarkyLLC writes:
| | In Suggestions, renhoffman writes:
| | Anyway, now that super-lots are not included in the wanted-list searches, sellers
are forced to either list them separately, and risk running out of one before
the other, or, including them, and either taking the loss, or listing the figure
for higher than average. I think we should be thinking of changing the rules
from now on. These figures should include the accessories. That is what buyers
want. They don't want to have to scrutinize the listing for what is included.
They want what should be included. Please make new rules for listing figures,
that accounts for what buyers expect when they buy a figure.
Darren
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I don't think adding accessories to minifigure catalog listings is
the way to go. Perhaps a better option, one that would most likely accompany
an improved shopping cart/automated checkout, is the ability to add variations
to products in your stores. That way, on the product page or checkout screen,
a drop down box would appear next to the applicable item and allow the buyer
to select 'add Mjölnir + $0.75' or something similar. This way, sellers
can potentially sell more of the accessories and buyers can retain their freedom
of choice.
Chris
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The main problem is this, there are sellers that include accessories, and there
are those that don't. Currently, the ones that don't mostly show up at
the top, (cheapest), of the catalog pages, and will most likely be the only ones
that show up in the auto-finder option, and the sellers who do include the accessories,
get lost in the shuffle. Also, when viewing the catalog page, the comments are
not shown, so there is no way to view who includes, and who doesn't. The
result is, there is no inclusion of accessories in the average price, as that
info doesn't affect the average. So, the sellers that include accessories,
LOSE, no matter what. But, I feel many buyers of certain figures, like the ones
I used as examples already, want the "complete" figures, including the accessories.
So they have to do extra work to find what they want. The wanted list doesn't
find what they want...as it doesn't show who includes accessories either.
So the buyers LOSE too .
Darren
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | QuarkyBricks | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2016 02:42 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigs and including accesories | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, renhoffman writes:
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The main problem is this, there are sellers that include accessories, and there
are those that don't. Currently, the ones that don't mostly show up at
the top, (cheapest), of the catalog pages, and will most likely be the only ones
that show up in the auto-finder option, and the sellers who do include the accessories,
get lost in the shuffle. Also, when viewing the catalog page, the comments are
not shown, so there is no way to view who includes, and who doesn't. The
result is, there is no inclusion of accessories in the average price, as that
info doesn't affect the average. So, the sellers that include accessories,
LOSE, no matter what. But, I feel many buyers of certain figures, like the ones
I used as examples already, want the "complete" figures, including the accessories.
So they have to do extra work to find what they want. The wanted list doesn't
find what they want...as it doesn't show who includes accessories either.
So the buyers LOSE too .
Darren
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I agree with you that there is an issue to be solved. I also think that while
super lot filtering should be a part of the wanted list, that reintroducing that
feature doesn't solve this problem.
Maybe then there should be a base listing for the minifigure, like now, but on
the seller's inventory detail screen there is a set of checkboxes for approved
'optional' accessories that are normally associated with that figure
in the sets that it is featured in. This would make the listing auto-populate
something like "includes: sword (part#) and shield (part#)." Also, it wouldn't
count as a super-lot, but could be added as a filter option. That should make
it easier for the buyer in your scenario and the seller who includes the accessories.
Chris
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2016 12:16 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigs and including accesories | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, renhoffman writes:
| | In Suggestions, QuarkyLLC writes:
| | In Suggestions, renhoffman writes:
| | Anyway, now that super-lots are not included in the wanted-list searches, sellers
are forced to either list them separately, and risk running out of one before
the other, or, including them, and either taking the loss, or listing the figure
for higher than average. I think we should be thinking of changing the rules
from now on. These figures should include the accessories. That is what buyers
want. They don't want to have to scrutinize the listing for what is included.
They want what should be included. Please make new rules for listing figures,
that accounts for what buyers expect when they buy a figure.
Darren
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I don't think adding accessories to minifigure catalog listings is
the way to go. Perhaps a better option, one that would most likely accompany
an improved shopping cart/automated checkout, is the ability to add variations
to products in your stores. That way, on the product page or checkout screen,
a drop down box would appear next to the applicable item and allow the buyer
to select 'add Mjölnir + $0.75' or something similar. This way, sellers
can potentially sell more of the accessories and buyers can retain their freedom
of choice.
Chris
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The main problem is this, there are sellers that include accessories, and there
are those that don't. Currently, the ones that don't mostly show up at
the top, (cheapest), of the catalog pages, and will most likely be the only ones
that show up in the auto-finder option, and the sellers who do include the accessories,
get lost in the shuffle. Also, when viewing the catalog page, the comments are
not shown, so there is no way to view who includes, and who doesn't. The
result is, there is no inclusion of accessories in the average price, as that
info doesn't affect the average. So, the sellers that include accessories,
LOSE, no matter what. But, I feel many buyers of certain figures, like the ones
I used as examples already, want the "complete" figures, including the accessories.
So they have to do extra work to find what they want. The wanted list doesn't
find what they want...as it doesn't show who includes accessories either.
So the buyers LOSE too .
Darren
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The wanted list finds exactly what they want, if they add the minifigure and
the accessory. It just doesn't find it from the sellers that list the accessory
as coming with the minifigure.
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| | | | | | | Author: | bb53904 | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2016 03:27 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigs and including accesories | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, QuarkyLLC writes:
| | In Suggestions, renhoffman writes:
| | Anyway, now that super-lots are not included in the wanted-list searches, sellers
are forced to either list them separately, and risk running out of one before
the other, or, including them, and either taking the loss, or listing the figure
for higher than average. I think we should be thinking of changing the rules
from now on. These figures should include the accessories. That is what buyers
want. They don't want to have to scrutinize the listing for what is included.
They want what should be included. Please make new rules for listing figures,
that accounts for what buyers expect when they buy a figure.
Darren
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I don't think adding accessories to minifigure catalog listings is
the way to go. Perhaps a better option, one that would most likely accompany
an improved shopping cart/automated checkout, is the ability to add variations
to products in your stores. That way, on the product page or checkout screen,
a drop down box would appear next to the applicable item and allow the buyer
to select 'add Mjölnir + $0.75' or something similar. This way, sellers
can potentially sell more of the accessories and buyers can retain their freedom
of choice.
Chris
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Minifigs already have so many ambiguous rules, and exceptions to rules, why not
have a
Create Your Own Minifig .....Super Lot!?
Thea
Always An Adventure!
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| | | | | | | Author: | Ctbyrne | | Posted: | Jul 26, 2016 10:47 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigs and including accesories | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Now that's the best suggestion I've seen on this thread! Suggested impulse
items based on cart contents.
Not to be THAT guy, but this is one of the reasons I sell my Minifigures on eBay
while I sell my parts here.
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| | | | | Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2016 02:12 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigs and including accesories | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, renhoffman writes:
| | I realize that up to now, minifigure accessories where not allowed to be included
in a minifigure inventory. But, times have changed. Many of the minifigures being
produced come in a set with the figure that would only come with a specific accesory,
examples...
and part
This part is for this figure, and Captain America is incomplete without the shield,
IMO.
Another one...
Isn't even Captain Marvel without her mask...
[3626cpb1469]
And...
Hawkman comes with 2 different wing sets, but only one is included. The other
one is useless, if it isn't included, IMO
And this one...
Again, he is not Magneto without the helmet, and what happened to the 2x2 round
plate that was included with the other version of Magneto?
Same as Hawkman, sh154 mentioned above.
Wolverine without claws...come on now, that is just wrong people.
Wolverine again, but unlike Magneto, he has his helmet, but not the hair, and
again, no claws!
Who is Wonderwoman without the lasso? I do know that the lasso came with another
figure, but still, Wonderwoman with no lasso?
Ah, a LEGO set with Wonderwoman, and no lasso, I guess that one doesn't actually
fit my argument .
One example I did not include is Thor, There are several versions of Thor, and
none include the hammer...Thor without his hammer is like Wolverine without his
claws!
Anyway, now that super-lots are not included in the wanted-list searches, sellers
are forced to either list them separately, and risk running out of one before
the other, or, including them, and either taking the loss, or listing the figure
for higher than average. I think we should be thinking of changing the rules
from now on. These figures should include the accessories. That is what buyers
want. They don't want to have to scrutinize the listing for what is included.
They want what should be included. Please make new rules for listing figures,
that accounts for what buyers expect when they buy a figure.
Darren
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I think you are proposing a workaround for a problem instead of addressing the
real problem.
The real solution to the problem is to fix the broken wanted list feature, so
that is able to deal with superlots and bulk items again.
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| | | | | Author: | Brickwilbo | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2016 05:55 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigs and including accesories | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Sellers are allowed to include accessories to Minifigs.
It just wouldn't show up in the New Search results as cheapest.
In Suggestions, renhoffman writes:
| | I realize that up to now, minifigure accessories where not allowed to be included
in a minifigure inventory. But, times have changed. Many of the minifigures being
produced come in a set with the figure that would only come with a specific accesory,
examples...
and part
This part is for this figure, and Captain America is incomplete without the shield,
IMO.
Another one...
Isn't even Captain Marvel without her mask...
[3626cpb1469]
And...
Hawkman comes with 2 different wing sets, but only one is included. The other
one is useless, if it isn't included, IMO
And this one...
Again, he is not Magneto without the helmet, and what happened to the 2x2 round
plate that was included with the other version of Magneto?
Same as Hawkman, sh154 mentioned above.
Wolverine without claws...come on now, that is just wrong people.
Wolverine again, but unlike Magneto, he has his helmet, but not the hair, and
again, no claws!
Who is Wonderwoman without the lasso? I do know that the lasso came with another
figure, but still, Wonderwoman with no lasso?
Ah, a LEGO set with Wonderwoman, and no lasso, I guess that one doesn't actually
fit my argument .
One example I did not include is Thor, There are several versions of Thor, and
none include the hammer...Thor without his hammer is like Wolverine without his
claws!
Anyway, now that super-lots are not included in the wanted-list searches, sellers
are forced to either list them separately, and risk running out of one before
the other, or, including them, and either taking the loss, or listing the figure
for higher than average. I think we should be thinking of changing the rules
from now on. These figures should include the accessories. That is what buyers
want. They don't want to have to scrutinize the listing for what is included.
They want what should be included. Please make new rules for listing figures,
that accounts for what buyers expect when they buy a figure.
Darren
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| | | | | | | Author: | perrush | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2016 06:40 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigs and including accesories | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:
| | Sellers are allowed to include accessories to Minifigs.
It just wouldn't show up in the New Search results as cheapest.
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still they can. They just need to make a super lot of minifig + accessoire
greetz
Stefan
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Brickwilbo | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2016 07:40 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigs and including accesories | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, perrush writes:
| | In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:
| | Sellers are allowed to include accessories to Minifigs.
It just wouldn't show up in the New Search results as cheapest.
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still they can. They just need to make a super lot of minifig + accessoire
greetz
Stefan
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Are you sure?
Admin wrote here that superlots are excluded from Wantlist searches:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1001694
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| | | | | Author: | jim35 | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2016 10:05 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigs and including accesories | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I agree. If sellers do not want to include accessories,
then they should state so in their listing.
Jim
In Suggestions, renhoffman writes:
| | I realize that up to now, minifigure accessories where not allowed to be included
in a minifigure inventory. But, times have changed. Many of the minifigures being
produced come in a set with the figure that would only come with a specific accesory,
examples...
and part
This part is for this figure, and Captain America is incomplete without the shield,
IMO.
Another one...
Isn't even Captain Marvel without her mask...
[3626cpb1469]
And...
Hawkman comes with 2 different wing sets, but only one is included. The other
one is useless, if it isn't included, IMO
And this one...
Again, he is not Magneto without the helmet, and what happened to the 2x2 round
plate that was included with the other version of Magneto?
Same as Hawkman, sh154 mentioned above.
Wolverine without claws...come on now, that is just wrong people.
Wolverine again, but unlike Magneto, he has his helmet, but not the hair, and
again, no claws!
Who is Wonderwoman without the lasso? I do know that the lasso came with another
figure, but still, Wonderwoman with no lasso?
Ah, a LEGO set with Wonderwoman, and no lasso, I guess that one doesn't actually
fit my argument .
One example I did not include is Thor, There are several versions of Thor, and
none include the hammer...Thor without his hammer is like Wolverine without his
claws!
Anyway, now that super-lots are not included in the wanted-list searches, sellers
are forced to either list them separately, and risk running out of one before
the other, or, including them, and either taking the loss, or listing the figure
for higher than average. I think we should be thinking of changing the rules
from now on. These figures should include the accessories. That is what buyers
want. They don't want to have to scrutinize the listing for what is included.
They want what should be included. Please make new rules for listing figures,
that accounts for what buyers expect when they buy a figure.
Darren
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jul 23, 2016 12:11 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigs and including accesories | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I disagree, if sellers want to include accessories then they should state this
in their listing.
Catalogue entries should match their photos. There are a lot of images to update
if this is changed. Plus doing this removes flexibility for buyers. Sometimes
people want to buy just the minifig or just the accessory.
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