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| | | Author: | jodawill  | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 10:09 | | Subject: | Remove references to the chatroom | | Viewed: | 308 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| The chatroom has been gone for a really long time, but there are still broken
links on the site related to the chat.
Here's one example. I'm pretty sure there are several others. http://i.imgur.com/iMrMxST.png
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| | | | | Author: | Royroy | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 10:11 | | Subject: | Re: Remove references to the chatroom | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, jodawill writes:
| | The chatroom has been gone for a really long time, but there are still broken
links on the site related to the chat.
Here's one example. I'm pretty sure there are several others. http://i.imgur.com/iMrMxST.png
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under: "my activity"
Chat:
0:00 Visit Feature Minutes in Chat
0 Visit Feature Members on my Ignore List
0 Visit Feature Members are Ignoring Me
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| | | | | | | Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 10:33 | | Subject: | Re: Remove references to the chatroom | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Royroy writes:
| | In Suggestions, jodawill writes:
| | The chatroom has been gone for a really long time, but there are still broken
links on the site related to the chat.
Here's one example. I'm pretty sure there are several others. http://i.imgur.com/iMrMxST.png
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under: "my activity"
Chat:
0:00 Visit Feature Minutes in Chat
0 Visit Feature Members on my Ignore List
0 Visit Feature Members are Ignoring Me
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http://imgur.com/a/KZORc
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| | | | | Author: | Miffy. | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 10:45 | | Subject: | Re: Remove references to the chatroom | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, jodawill writes:
| | The chatroom has been gone for a really long time, but there are still broken
links on the site related to the chat.
Here's one example. I'm pretty sure there are several others. http://i.imgur.com/iMrMxST.png
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http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=751253
... from August 2013 - not even a reply from Admin back then, and no change since
then either, except the picture was changed. This is indicative that even simple
fixes are beyond their capability, and the suggestions forum is really ignored
(despite assurances otherwise).
Miles/..
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| | | | | | | Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 10:49 | | Subject: | Re: Remove references to the chatroom | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, studfinder writes:
| | In Suggestions, jodawill writes:
| | The chatroom has been gone for a really long time, but there are still broken
links on the site related to the chat.
Here's one example. I'm pretty sure there are several others. http://i.imgur.com/iMrMxST.png
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http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=751253
... from August 2013 - not even a reply from Admin back then, and no change since
then either, except the picture was changed. This is indicative that even simple
fixes are beyond their capability, and the suggestions forum is really ignored
(despite assurances otherwise).
Miles/..
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Such a simple change. That's pretty sad.
I wish the Jezek family had sold BrickLink to a community member. There are so
many people here who would be capable of operating this site.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 11:14 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 96 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 11:21 | | Subject: | Re: Remove references to the chatroom | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, popsicle writes:
| | In Suggestions, jodawill writes:
| | In Suggestions, studfinder writes:
| | In Suggestions, jodawill writes:
| | The chatroom has been gone for a really long time, but there are still broken
links on the site related to the chat.
Here's one example. I'm pretty sure there are several others. http://i.imgur.com/iMrMxST.png
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http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=751253
... from August 2013 - not even a reply from Admin back then, and no change since
then either, except the picture was changed. This is indicative that even simple
fixes are beyond their capability, and the suggestions forum is really ignored
(despite assurances otherwise).
Miles/..
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Such a simple change. That's pretty sad.
I wish the Jezek family had sold BrickLink to a community member. There are so
many people here who would be capable of operating this site.
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Slow down, cowboy......they did sell to a long standing BL community member.
Jung-Ju Kim has been a member for years.
Less posts, more research....
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Ok, I see that now. I guess I just always assumed it was just an outside company
because of the way things have been going.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Brettj666 | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 11:31 | | Subject: | Re: Remove references to the chatroom | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Well, I would say it's a bit of both.
Outside a few appearances at seller conventions (EU and maybe one in the US),
I have yet to see any personal touches from Jung-Ju Kim and certainly no passion.
The MOC shop was a business decision, not a passionate one.
Someone who spent any time on BL would have at least some input on what needs
to change. If he used Bricklink personally, it was to pop in, make a purchase
and pay for it and pop out just as quick
I didn't expect Chat to be returned because any 'business' benefits
are hard to measure. You don't know that person A helped person B decide
on something and made a sale, you only know they made a sale. You don't
know that problems were resolved and advice given.
In Suggestions, jodawill writes:
| | In Suggestions, popsicle writes:
| | In Suggestions, jodawill writes:
| | In Suggestions, studfinder writes:
| | In Suggestions, jodawill writes:
| | The chatroom has been gone for a really long time, but there are still broken
links on the site related to the chat.
Here's one example. I'm pretty sure there are several others. http://i.imgur.com/iMrMxST.png
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http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=751253
... from August 2013 - not even a reply from Admin back then, and no change since
then either, except the picture was changed. This is indicative that even simple
fixes are beyond their capability, and the suggestions forum is really ignored
(despite assurances otherwise).
Miles/..
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Such a simple change. That's pretty sad.
I wish the Jezek family had sold BrickLink to a community member. There are so
many people here who would be capable of operating this site.
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Slow down, cowboy......they did sell to a long standing BL community member.
Jung-Ju Kim has been a member for years.
Less posts, more research....
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Ok, I see that now. I guess I just always assumed it was just an outside company
because of the way things have been going.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 11:40 | | Subject: | Re: Remove references to the chatroom | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
| | Well, I would say it's a bit of both.
Outside a few appearances at seller conventions (EU and maybe one in the US),
I have yet to see any personal touches from Jung-Ju Kim and certainly no passion.
The MOC shop was a business decision, not a passionate one.
Someone who spent any time on BL would have at least some input on what needs
to change. If he used Bricklink personally, it was to pop in, make a purchase
and pay for it and pop out just as quick
I didn't expect Chat to be returned because any 'business' benefits
are hard to measure. You don't know that person A helped person B decide
on something and made a sale, you only know they made a sale. You don't
know that problems were resolved and advice given.
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I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm actually glad there's
no chat. I prefer the forum. I've never used the BL chat before, but large
IRC chatrooms are hard to follow, and you can't navigate messages in a chatroom.
I agree that it seems the MOC shop was just a business decision. The dumb thing
is that it's probably done more harm than good. I would be surprised if they
haven't spent more money developing it than what they've earned from
it so far. I really don't see why they think there would be a lot of people
lining up to buy someone else's creation. Anyone who knows what a MOC is
is probably more interested in creating their own than following someone else's
instructions. If they wanted to target kids, they should have picked a better
name.
I have no idea who Jung-Ju Kim is. I've only seen two or three staff members
on the forum (unless inventory admins count), and none of them have seemed to
be in touch with the community.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Made_In_Bricks | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 11:52 | | Subject: | Re: Remove references to the chatroom | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | no chat. I prefer the forum. I've never used the BL chat before, but large
IRC chatrooms are hard to follow, and you can't navigate messages in a chatroom.
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lol, way to weight your opinion as informative.
I didn't get to live in the 60's, but I prefer living now to living in
the 60's
hard to follow - that was kind of the point of chat, off the record spur of the
moment talk.
It made the FORUM easier to follow because there were a lot less posts there
and the posts there
There were a lot of people that were regulars in chat the hardly posted in the
forum, for the most part they were two different crowds
the ONLY downside was the security problems that arose from it (except for maybe
the mods that had to spend time in there to monitor things)
That was actually a plus, I think the strong mod presence in the chat room kept
the conversation positive and prevented a lot of member bashing that happens
in the forum.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 11:58 | | Subject: | Re: Remove references to the chatroom | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
| | | | no chat. I prefer the forum. I've never used the BL chat before, but large
IRC chatrooms are hard to follow, and you can't navigate messages in a chatroom.
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lol, way to weight your opinion as informative.
I didn't get to live in the 60's, but I prefer living now to living in
the 60's
hard to follow - that was kind of the point of chat, off the record spur of the
moment talk.
It made the FORUM easier to follow because there were a lot less posts there
and the posts there
There were a lot of people that were regulars in chat the hardly posted in the
forum, for the most part they were two different crowds
the ONLY downside was the security problems that arose from it (except for maybe
the mods that had to spend time in there to monitor things)
That was actually a plus, I think the strong mod presence in the chat room kept
the conversation positive and prevented a lot of member bashing that happens
in the forum.
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I've spent plenty of time in chatrooms before. I know what they're like.
I'm just saying my preference is the forum. I like to have the opportunity
to be a part of each discussion.
Anyway, I've always wondered why there isn't a separately hosted IRC
channel for BrickLink. There are a ton of different websites for hosting chatrooms.
I'm surprised there's not an unofficial one at least.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Brettj666 | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 12:04 | | Subject: | Re: Remove references to the chatroom | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, jodawill writes:
| | In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
| | | | no chat. I prefer the forum. I've never used the BL chat before, but large
IRC chatrooms are hard to follow, and you can't navigate messages in a chatroom.
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lol, way to weight your opinion as informative.
I didn't get to live in the 60's, but I prefer living now to living in
the 60's
hard to follow - that was kind of the point of chat, off the record spur of the
moment talk.
It made the FORUM easier to follow because there were a lot less posts there
and the posts there
There were a lot of people that were regulars in chat the hardly posted in the
forum, for the most part they were two different crowds
the ONLY downside was the security problems that arose from it (except for maybe
the mods that had to spend time in there to monitor things)
That was actually a plus, I think the strong mod presence in the chat room kept
the conversation positive and prevented a lot of member bashing that happens
in the forum.
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I've spent plenty of time in chatrooms before. I know what they're like.
I'm just saying my preference is the forum. I like to have the opportunity
to be a part of each discussion.
Anyway, I've always wondered why there isn't a separately hosted IRC
channel for BrickLink. There are a ton of different websites for hosting chatrooms.
I'm surprised there's not an unofficial one at least.
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A few people set them up and even advertised them, but the only way to tell of
them was through the forum and you know how posts can get out of control and
bring things 8 pages down.
The other thing was integration with your ID so you know who you were talking
to and could check their feedback/store
When chat was active, I almost never went to the forum unless people in chat
didn't know.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 12:17 | | Subject: | Re: Remove references to the chatroom | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
| | When chat was active, I almost never went to the forum unless people in chat
didn't know.
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That's exactly why I prefer not having a chatroom. Good discussions just
become lost in a chatroom, even if they are archived. It's nice being able
to see the discussions I've missed.
Associating each user with their BrickLink ID is definitely important, though.
There may be some way to setup an IRC channel so that a moderator has to receive
a message from the BrickLink member to approve their IRC account, but that would
be an arduous task and would discourage new members from joining the chat.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | taxan | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 13:38 | | Subject: | Re: Remove references to the chatroom | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, jodawill writes:
| | In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
| | When chat was active, I almost never went to the forum unless people in chat
didn't know.
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That's exactly why I prefer not having a chatroom. Good discussions just
become lost in a chatroom, even if they are archived. It's nice being able
to see the discussions I've missed.
Associating each user with their BrickLink ID is definitely important, though.
There may be some way to setup an IRC channel so that a moderator has to receive
a message from the BrickLink member to approve their IRC account, but that would
be an arduous task and would discourage new members from joining the chat.
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There are at least on unofficial IRC channel for BrickLink.
We are only a few in there right now.
Link in my "me" page if you like to check it out.
It wold be easy to set up a "Mibbit" client and link it to any IRC channel they
want without any security issue.
That way people that don't normally use IRC can join in without downloading
and installing anything.
Have a nice day.
taxan
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| | | | | | | Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 11:22 | | Subject: | Re: Remove references to the chatroom | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, studfinder writes:
| | In Suggestions, jodawill writes:
| | The chatroom has been gone for a really long time, but there are still broken
links on the site related to the chat.
Here's one example. I'm pretty sure there are several others. http://i.imgur.com/iMrMxST.png
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http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=751253
... from August 2013 - not even a reply from Admin back then, and no change since
then either, except the picture was changed. This is indicative that even simple
fixes are beyond their capability, and the suggestions forum is really ignored
(despite assurances otherwise).
Miles/..
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Simple fixes are not beyond their capability. I have seen several fixes take
place recently, and they are tested and they work.
A lot of people want chat to come back, and getting rid of all signs of chat
would not be received well by everybody.
Russell
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| | | | | Author: | Made_In_Bricks | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 11:25 | | Subject: | Re: Remove references to the chatroom | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| voted no
I'll take all the references to chat in the hopes it will come back one day.
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| | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 11:29 | | Subject: | Re: Remove references to the chatroom | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, jodawill writes:
| | The chatroom has been gone for a really long time, but there are still broken
links on the site related to the chat.
Here's one example. I'm pretty sure there are several others. http://i.imgur.com/iMrMxST.png
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I would suggest that this is not the proper place to discuss this. It should
be moved to the Chatroom and we can all discuss it there in real time.
John P
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| | | | | | | Author: | BrianAnderson | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2015 12:27 | | Subject: | Re: Remove references to the chatroom | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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