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 Author: Herman42 View Messages Posted By Herman42
 Posted: Jan 15, 2015 12:18
 Subject: Searching for stores that have Quotes active.
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Herman42 (105)

Location:  Norway, Oslo
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As a buyer I've found the quotes option very useful, and I do prefer to buy
from shops that offer quotes.
(The real issue is customs calculating fees.)
It would be handy to be able to look for the shops that offer quotes.
 Author: OldBrixAndMore View Messages Posted By OldBrixAndMore
 Posted: Jan 15, 2015 13:47
 Subject: Re: Searching for stores that have Quotes active.
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Location:  Germany, Nordrhein-Westfalen
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In Suggestions, Herman42 writes:
  As a buyer I've found the quotes option very useful, and I do prefer to buy
from shops that offer quotes.
(The real issue is customs calculating fees.)
It would be handy to be able to look for the shops that offer quotes.

I do offer quotes.

Greets
Pierre
 Author: If_you_build_it View Messages Posted By If_you_build_it
 Posted: Jan 16, 2015 23:59
 Subject: Re: Searching for stores that have Quotes active.
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If_you_build_it (951)

Location:  USA, Ohio
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I believe I have Quotes set up, though I haven't had any requests yet.

As for customs fees, I wasn't aware of any stores charging those, and I would
be surprised if they were able to quote those as I thought they were specific
to the destination country, not the country of origin?

In Suggestions, Herman42 writes:
  As a buyer I've found the quotes option very useful, and I do prefer to buy
from shops that offer quotes.
(The real issue is customs calculating fees.)
It would be handy to be able to look for the shops that offer quotes.
 Author: Herman42 View Messages Posted By Herman42
 Posted: Jan 17, 2015 07:52
 Subject: Re: Searching for stores that have Quotes active.
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Herman42 (105)

Location:  Norway, Oslo
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In Suggestions, If_you_build_it writes:
  I believe I have Quotes set up, though I haven't had any requests yet.

As for customs fees, I wasn't aware of any stores charging those, and I would
be surprised if they were able to quote those as I thought they were specific
to the destination country, not the country of origin?

The point of the quote is to know if I'll be slapped by customs fees when
picking up the package, or not.
 Author: denniseneric View Messages Posted By denniseneric
 Posted: Jan 17, 2015 08:16
 Subject: Re: Searching for stores that have Quotes active.
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denniseneric (400)

Location:  Netherlands, Zuid-Holland
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Store Closed Store: eds-bricks
In Suggestions, Herman42 writes:
  In Suggestions, If_you_build_it writes:
  I believe I have Quotes set up, though I haven't had any requests yet.

As for customs fees, I wasn't aware of any stores charging those, and I would
be surprised if they were able to quote those as I thought they were specific
to the destination country, not the country of origin?

The point of the quote is to know if I'll be slapped by customs fees when
picking up the package, or not.

we have quotes open. But we can not quote customs fees, as they normally have
to paid by the person who receives the package.
 Author: 62Bricks View Messages Posted By 62Bricks
 Posted: Jan 17, 2015 08:24
 Subject: Re: Searching for stores that have Quotes active.
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62Bricks (1455)

Location:  USA, Missouri
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In Suggestions, Herman42 writes:
  In Suggestions, If_you_build_it writes:
  I believe I have Quotes set up, though I haven't had any requests yet.

As for customs fees, I wasn't aware of any stores charging those, and I would
be surprised if they were able to quote those as I thought they were specific
to the destination country, not the country of origin?

The point of the quote is to know if I'll be slapped by customs fees when
picking up the package, or not.

I think the point of the quotes is to follow the laws of some countries that
require full disclosure of the amount of the purchase before the transaction
is completed. Bricklink's current policies and invoice system require a buyer
to commit to a purchase without knowing the full charges.

Does your country charge duties on the shipping charge as well? I have not heard
of that. I thought duties were only based on the value of the merchandise.
 Author: enig View Messages Posted By enig
 Posted: Jan 17, 2015 10:06
 Subject: Re: Searching for stores that have Quotes active.
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enig (6351)

Location:  Lithuania, Panevėžys
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Mar 3, 2012 Contact Member Seller
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Store: enigma bricks - CHEAP S&H!
In Suggestions, 62Bricks writes:
  In Suggestions, Herman42 writes:
  In Suggestions, If_you_build_it writes:
  I believe I have Quotes set up, though I haven't had any requests yet.

As for customs fees, I wasn't aware of any stores charging those, and I would
be surprised if they were able to quote those as I thought they were specific
to the destination country, not the country of origin?

The point of the quote is to know if I'll be slapped by customs fees when
picking up the package, or not.

I think the point of the quotes is to follow the laws of some countries that
require full disclosure of the amount of the purchase before the transaction
is completed. Bricklink's current policies and invoice system require a buyer
to commit to a purchase without knowing the full charges.

Does your country charge duties on the shipping charge as well? I have not heard
of that. I thought duties were only based on the value of the merchandise.

I have not heard of a country that doesn't.

The value of the goods (before shipping) is used to determine if there will be
any fees or not. If there *yes* then customs will also charge taxes on the shipping
cost.

That's how it usually is, although I think I have heard that in some countries
the shipping costs are included in the "import allowance" for no tax.
 Author: 62Bricks View Messages Posted By 62Bricks
 Posted: Jan 17, 2015 10:10
 Subject: Re: Searching for stores that have Quotes active.
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62Bricks (1455)

Location:  USA, Missouri
Member Since Contact Type Status
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Store Closed Store: 62 Bricks
In Suggestions, enig writes:
  In Suggestions, 62Bricks writes:
  In Suggestions, Herman42 writes:
  In Suggestions, If_you_build_it writes:
  I believe I have Quotes set up, though I haven't had any requests yet.

As for customs fees, I wasn't aware of any stores charging those, and I would
be surprised if they were able to quote those as I thought they were specific
to the destination country, not the country of origin?

The point of the quote is to know if I'll be slapped by customs fees when
picking up the package, or not.

I think the point of the quotes is to follow the laws of some countries that
require full disclosure of the amount of the purchase before the transaction
is completed. Bricklink's current policies and invoice system require a buyer
to commit to a purchase without knowing the full charges.

Does your country charge duties on the shipping charge as well? I have not heard
of that. I thought duties were only based on the value of the merchandise.

I have not heard of a country that doesn't.

The value of the goods (before shipping) is used to determine if there will be
any fees or not. If there *yes* then customs will also charge taxes on the shipping
cost.

That's how it usually is, although I think I have heard that in some countries
the shipping costs are included in the "import allowance" for no tax.

Ah - it's a tax, then, not customs duties? In that case, the quote does not
tell you whether or not there will be custom duties - the value of the merchandise
determines that - it just gives you an idea of how much tax you'll have to
pay?
 Author: enig View Messages Posted By enig
 Posted: Jan 17, 2015 10:50
 Subject: Re: Searching for stores that have Quotes active.
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enig (6351)

Location:  Lithuania, Panevėžys
Member Since Contact Type Status
Mar 3, 2012 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: enigma bricks - CHEAP S&H!
In Suggestions, 62Bricks writes:
  In Suggestions, enig writes:
  In Suggestions, 62Bricks writes:
  In Suggestions, Herman42 writes:
  In Suggestions, If_you_build_it writes:
  I believe I have Quotes set up, though I haven't had any requests yet.

As for customs fees, I wasn't aware of any stores charging those, and I would
be surprised if they were able to quote those as I thought they were specific
to the destination country, not the country of origin?

The point of the quote is to know if I'll be slapped by customs fees when
picking up the package, or not.

I think the point of the quotes is to follow the laws of some countries that
require full disclosure of the amount of the purchase before the transaction
is completed. Bricklink's current policies and invoice system require a buyer
to commit to a purchase without knowing the full charges.

Does your country charge duties on the shipping charge as well? I have not heard
of that. I thought duties were only based on the value of the merchandise.

I have not heard of a country that doesn't.

The value of the goods (before shipping) is used to determine if there will be
any fees or not. If there *yes* then customs will also charge taxes on the shipping
cost.

That's how it usually is, although I think I have heard that in some countries
the shipping costs are included in the "import allowance" for no tax.

Ah - it's a tax, then, not customs duties? In that case, the quote does not
tell you whether or not there will be custom duties - the value of the merchandise
determines that - it just gives you an idea of how much tax you'll have to
pay?

For most countries in Europe the "allowance" is around 22 EUR (~25.5 USD in today's
rates), for "tax free" imports. The value of goods is what counts here (excl
shipping), but if it exceeds 22 EUR then they also add shipping costs to calculate
the taxes.

If over that amount

a) first of all - fixed processing fee to you post office. In Lithuania it's
a bit over 10 USD
b) VAT on the value of goods + shipping. VAT% varies in different countries,
and it may also depend on the type of merchandise as well. For example, in some
countries you pay no VAT, or reduced VAT for periodicals/books etc.
c) above certain amount, you may also have to pay customs duty charges.

to give you an actual example, one of my recent imports from US looked like:

3.830 USD worth of merchandise
112 USD for shipping

FEES:

Post office for acting as an intermediator between me and the customs office
= ~10 USD
VAT on merchandise = 3.830 * 21% = 804.30 USD
VAT on shipping = 112 * 21% VAT = 23.52 USD
Customs duties = 3.830 USD * 3% = 180.01 USD

Total fees on 3.830 USD worth of stuff = 1017.83 USD

 Author: enig View Messages Posted By enig
 Posted: Jan 17, 2015 10:13
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enig (6351)

Location:  Lithuania, Panevėžys
Member Since Contact Type Status
Mar 3, 2012 Contact Member Seller
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Store: enigma bricks - CHEAP S&H!
In Suggestions, Herman42 writes:
  In Suggestions, If_you_build_it writes:
  I believe I have Quotes set up, though I haven't had any requests yet.

As for customs fees, I wasn't aware of any stores charging those, and I would
be surprised if they were able to quote those as I thought they were specific
to the destination country, not the country of origin?

The point of the quote is to know if I'll be slapped by customs fees when
picking up the package, or not.

As far as I am aware, for imports into Norway you dont have to add shipping (or
any other fees) in order to determine if you will be charged any import taxes.
Only the actual value of goods is accounted for, which is at 200 NOK no?

Also.. sometimes it is less expensive to split your order onto two or more packages
for shipping, than to pay customs charges. That's what some of my Norwegian
customers opt for *cough*
 Author: Herman42 View Messages Posted By Herman42
 Posted: Jan 17, 2015 12:42
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Herman42 (105)

Location:  Norway, Oslo
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In Suggestions, enig writes:
  As far as I am aware, for imports into Norway you dont have to add shipping (or
any other fees) in order to determine if you will be charged any import taxes.
Only the actual value of goods is accounted for, which is at 200 NOK no?

That was true until 31. december 2014.
The new rules states that you have to add shipping and insurance, and they do
not mention anything about other fees, so to be safe I assume they are to be
included as well.
The new limit is 350 NOK, so it might be somewhat more, or somewhat less, than
the old limit.

  Also.. sometimes it is less expensive to split your order onto two or more packages
for shipping, than to pay customs charges. That's what some of my Norwegian
customers opt for *cough*

I prefer waiting untill the seller have sent the order before I consider ordering
more from the same shop. (That removes the need for a cough ...)