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 | | | Author: | ToriHada  | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2014 10:28 | | Subject: | Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 284 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| As a seller, I would like to have the option of honoring competitor coupons.
Please make it so that all coupons can be honored by any seller who opts into
accepting coupons issued by other sellers. Of course, the opt in should include
settings so the seller can define conditions and maximum percentage and dollar
limits to the coupons he/she will accept.
This happens in the real world. I see no reason why it can't also happen
here for those who want it. As a seller, just as in the real world, it may help
bring me more business if I can advertise that I will honor competitor coupons
(subject to certain conditions of course).
Thor
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| | | | | Author: | theboystoys | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2014 10:38 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | As a seller, I would like to have the option of honoring competitor coupons.
Please make it so that all coupons can be honored by any seller who opts into
accepting coupons issued by other sellers. Of course, the opt in should include
settings so the seller can define conditions and maximum percentage and dollar
limits to the coupons he/she will accept.
This happens in the real world. I see no reason why it can't also happen
here for those who want it. As a seller, just as in the real world, it may help
bring me more business if I can advertise that I will honor competitor coupons
(subject to certain conditions of course).
Thor
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Voted No. There's too many variables to do it effectively. If I jack my prices
up to 3X the avg. sell, then offer 50% off coupons, why would any seller want
to match my ridiculous coupon if they already have fair prices.
Matt
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| | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2014 10:46 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, theboyslegos writes:
| | If I jack my prices
up to 3X the avg. sell, then offer 50% off coupons, why would any seller want
to match my ridiculous coupon if they already have fair prices.
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That is why my suggestion asked for tools that would allow opting-in sellers
to set the maximum percentage or dollar off amounts they would accept. Thus,
for example, in most cases as a seller, I would be willing to accept competing
seller coupons if they were up to 10% off, or maybe a bit more on larger orders.
The real world does not seem to have any problems doing this or declining fake
90% off coupons.
Thor
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| | | | | Author: | enig | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2014 10:51 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | As a seller, I would like to have the option of honoring competitor coupons.
Please make it so that all coupons can be honored by any seller who opts into
accepting coupons issued by other sellers. Of course, the opt in should include
settings so the seller can define conditions and maximum percentage and dollar
limits to the coupons he/she will accept.
This happens in the real world. I see no reason why it can't also happen
here for those who want it. As a seller, just as in the real world, it may help
bring me more business if I can advertise that I will honor competitor coupons
(subject to certain conditions of course).
Thor
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Why make thinks more complicated than they have to be? If you want more business
then just price your stuff accordingly.
Voted No.
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| | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2014 11:00 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, enig writes:
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Why make thinks more complicated than they have to be? If you want more business
then just price your stuff accordingly.
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That is an argument that can be made against every suggestion and against the
use of any and all coupons. If the argument is valid, then let's do away
with all coupons.
Coupons are a long accepted and effective marketing tool for selectively targeting
and getting more business WITHOUT having to significantly cut into profits by
reducing prices across the board for everyone. And so is accepting coupons from
one's competitors. Coupons are not meant to reduce prices overall for everyone.
They are designed to bring in only those who have the coupons. And they work
very well at doing that. In the case of accepting competitor coupons, the purpose
again is not to reduce your prices across the board for everyone, but to remove
the incentive of some buyers to shop only at one's competitors. It is an
effort to woo away customers from one's competitors and get them to try you
instead. NOT an effort to give further discounts to your already existing customers.
Thor
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| | | | | Author: | Brettj666 | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2014 10:59 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | As a seller, I would like to have the option of honoring competitor coupons.
Please make it so that all coupons can be honored by any seller who opts into
accepting coupons issued by other sellers. Of course, the opt in should include
settings so the seller can define conditions and maximum percentage and dollar
limits to the coupons he/she will accept.
This happens in the real world. I see no reason why it can't also happen
here for those who want it. As a seller, just as in the real world, it may help
bring me more business if I can advertise that I will honor competitor coupons
(subject to certain conditions of course).
Thor
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How would someone know that you honour other stores coupons?
Would it be on the price guide listings? on your splash page?
Here's how I would abuse this system.
Say I am going into your shop to buy something; after all your prices are fair.
I see that you accept this and arrange with some other seller to send me a coupon
that I won't use in their store.
I get someone to give me a 20% coupon, I take it into your store, see if it's
accepted.
It's not.
It's changed it to 19%, go back in, see if it's accepted, it's not.
continue to say 12%..
I go in, see that 12% is your threshold. I use someone else's 12% coupon
on your shop.
I was going to shop anyway, but if you've just given me a quick incentive
to do work to save 12%, then woo hoo.
This could have easily been done with a splash page memo "Want a coupon, just
ask"
but that is just as dangerous because people will almost always ask, even if
they were fine with it.
I'll vote yes because if you want to do this, it should be your right and
you are correct, it mimics the real world. I think you can achieve this now
without bricklink quite easily.
But I never would use this, I'd lower my prices instead or put a splash message
on.
You may take some business away from others, but I think more often than not,
people would just use it as a discount method when they were going to buy from
you anyway.
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| | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2014 11:15 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | As a seller, I would like to have the option of honoring competitor coupons.
Please make it so that all coupons can be honored by any seller who opts into
accepting coupons issued by other sellers. Of course, the opt in should include
settings so the seller can define conditions and maximum percentage and dollar
limits to the coupons he/she will accept.
This happens in the real world. I see no reason why it can't also happen
here for those who want it. As a seller, just as in the real world, it may help
bring me more business if I can advertise that I will honor competitor coupons
(subject to certain conditions of course).
Thor
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How would someone know that you honour other stores coupons?
Would it be on the price guide listings? on your splash page?
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I would mention it in my splash page and store banner.
| | Here's how I would abuse this system.
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Almost anything can be abused. While what you say below COULD be done, I really
don't think a great many buyers would go through all that. And one simple
way to reduce (not entirely eliminate) such abuse would be for opting-in sellers
to set it so that they will accept only competing seller coupons that were issued
a week or more before the order is placed.
| | Say I am going into your shop to buy something; after all your prices are fair.
I see that you accept this and arrange with some other seller to send me a coupon
that I won't use in their store.
I get someone to give me a 20% coupon, I take it into your store, see if it's
accepted.
It's not.
It's changed it to 19%, go back in, see if it's accepted, it's not.
continue to say 12%..
I go in, see that 12% is your threshold. I use someone else's 12% coupon
on your shop.
I was going to shop anyway, but if you've just given me a quick incentive
to do work to save 12%, then woo hoo.
This could have easily been done with a splash page memo "Want a coupon, just
ask"
but that is just as dangerous because people will almost always ask, even if
they were fine with it.
I'll vote yes because if you want to do this, it should be your right and
you are correct, it mimics the real world. I think you can achieve this now
without bricklink quite easily.
But I never would use this, I'd lower my prices instead or put a splash message
on.
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Well, as I mentioned before, I don't want to lower my prices across the board
for everyone. Just for those few who have coupons. And again, your same argument
can be used to argue against ALL coupons.
| | You may take some business away from others, but I think more often than not,
people would just use it as a discount method when they were going to buy from
you anyway.
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In some cases, yes. In others, no. Whether I come out ahead in the end... who
knows? But that is the chance you already take when issuing any coupon.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 08:01 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | As a seller, I would like to have the option of honoring competitor coupons.
Please make it so that all coupons can be honored by any seller who opts into
accepting coupons issued by other sellers. Of course, the opt in should include
settings so the seller can define conditions and maximum percentage and dollar
limits to the coupons he/she will accept.
This happens in the real world. I see no reason why it can't also happen
here for those who want it. As a seller, just as in the real world, it may help
bring me more business if I can advertise that I will honor competitor coupons
(subject to certain conditions of course).
Thor
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How would someone know that you honour other stores coupons?
Would it be on the price guide listings? on your splash page?
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I would mention it in my splash page and store banner.
| | Here's how I would abuse this system.
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Almost anything can be abused. While what you say below COULD be done, I really
don't think a great many buyers would go through all that. And one simple
way to reduce (not entirely eliminate) such abuse would be for opting-in sellers
to set it so that they will accept only competing seller coupons that were issued
a week or more before the order is placed.
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That wouldn't solve it. Brett and I and anyone else who is interested would
just send each other a bunch of coupons (20% off, 19% off etc) at the start of
the year, and by January 7th we can use those coupons as often as we want for
the rest of the year in any BL store that accepts competitor coupons.
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Marc.
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| | Say I am going into your shop to buy something; after all your prices are fair.
I see that you accept this and arrange with some other seller to send me a coupon
that I won't use in their store.
I get someone to give me a 20% coupon, I take it into your store, see if it's
accepted.
It's not.
It's changed it to 19%, go back in, see if it's accepted, it's not.
continue to say 12%..
I go in, see that 12% is your threshold. I use someone else's 12% coupon
on your shop.
I was going to shop anyway, but if you've just given me a quick incentive
to do work to save 12%, then woo hoo.
This could have easily been done with a splash page memo "Want a coupon, just
ask"
but that is just as dangerous because people will almost always ask, even if
they were fine with it.
I'll vote yes because if you want to do this, it should be your right and
you are correct, it mimics the real world. I think you can achieve this now
without bricklink quite easily.
But I never would use this, I'd lower my prices instead or put a splash message
on.
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Well, as I mentioned before, I don't want to lower my prices across the board
for everyone. Just for those few who have coupons. And again, your same argument
can be used to argue against ALL coupons.
| | You may take some business away from others, but I think more often than not,
people would just use it as a discount method when they were going to buy from
you anyway.
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In some cases, yes. In others, no. Whether I come out ahead in the end... who
knows? But that is the chance you already take when issuing any coupon.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 09:49 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | Brett and I and anyone else who is interested would
just send each other a bunch of coupons (20% off, 19% off etc) at the start of
the year, and by January 7th we can use those coupons as often as we want for
the rest of the year in any BL store that accepts competitor coupons.
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And that would be perfectly fine with me. In fact, it would mean this suggestion
WORKED to get you to place an order with me. An order you might not have otherwise
placed if you did not get the discount.
Like I said, most buyers would not bother doing what you suggest. If some do,
I don't really see the problem if it gets them to place an order with me.
Some who take the time to do what you suggest may have placed orders with me
anyway. And some not. Either way, I am betting this suggestion will give me more
overall orders. I don't mind if giving a modest discount is needed for some
buyers to place their orders.
The quicker I sell things (even for a little less profit), the quicker I can
re-invest that income to purchase more inventory. Full-price inventory that sits
unsold for 6 months does me no good. If a 10% or 15% coupon helps me move that
inventory in one month, that gives me 5 more months to sell new fresh inventory
that may sell more quickly and profitably. By churning my inventory to get a
quicker turnover, I will come out ahead even if I have to give a modest discount
to coupon holders, many of whom would not otherwise buy.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 11:56 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | Brett and I and anyone else who is interested would
just send each other a bunch of coupons (20% off, 19% off etc) at the start of
the year, and by January 7th we can use those coupons as often as we want for
the rest of the year in any BL store that accepts competitor coupons.
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And that would be perfectly fine with me. In fact, it would mean this suggestion
WORKED to get you to place an order with me. An order you might not have otherwise
placed if you did not get the discount.
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Wrong.
I would take the coupon TO THE STORE THAT I AM ALREADY BUYING FROM, to see what
kind of discount I can get.
Besides ... for some reason you have stop-listed me. So you're not getting
ANY money from me. Childish.
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Marc.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 12:26 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | Brett and I and anyone else who is interested would
just send each other a bunch of coupons (20% off, 19% off etc) at the start of
the year, and by January 7th we can use those coupons as often as we want for
the rest of the year in any BL store that accepts competitor coupons.
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And that would be perfectly fine with me. In fact, it would mean this suggestion
WORKED to get you to place an order with me. An order you might not have otherwise
placed if you did not get the discount.
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Wrong.
I would take the coupon TO THE STORE THAT I AM ALREADY BUYING FROM, to see what
kind of discount I can get.
Besides ... for some reason you have stop-listed me. So you're not getting
ANY money from me. Childish.
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You know why I stop-listed you Marc. I explained it to you in our last email
exchange in response to the 4 or 5 emails you sent me. If you want to cry about
private things in public, cry away.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 13:03 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | Brett and I and anyone else who is interested would
just send each other a bunch of coupons (20% off, 19% off etc) at the start of
the year, and by January 7th we can use those coupons as often as we want for
the rest of the year in any BL store that accepts competitor coupons.
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And that would be perfectly fine with me. In fact, it would mean this suggestion
WORKED to get you to place an order with me. An order you might not have otherwise
placed if you did not get the discount.
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Wrong.
I would take the coupon TO THE STORE THAT I AM ALREADY BUYING FROM, to see what
kind of discount I can get.
Besides ... for some reason you have stop-listed me. So you're not getting
ANY money from me. Childish.
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You know why I stop-listed you Marc.
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I do. It wasn't a question. I listed the reason above. Childishness.
You don't like it when people point out when you are wrong. You repeatedly
emailed me asking me to stop pointing out the logical flaws in your posts, and
I said I no. So you stop-listed me. *shrug* oh well. I guess not being allowed
to buy from you is the price I have to pay to be allowed to disagree with you
in public.
It's a fair trade.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 13:15 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | Brett and I and anyone else who is interested would
just send each other a bunch of coupons (20% off, 19% off etc) at the start of
the year, and by January 7th we can use those coupons as often as we want for
the rest of the year in any BL store that accepts competitor coupons.
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And that would be perfectly fine with me. In fact, it would mean this suggestion
WORKED to get you to place an order with me. An order you might not have otherwise
placed if you did not get the discount.
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Wrong.
I would take the coupon TO THE STORE THAT I AM ALREADY BUYING FROM, to see what
kind of discount I can get.
Besides ... for some reason you have stop-listed me. So you're not getting
ANY money from me. Childish.
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You know why I stop-listed you Marc.
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I do. It wasn't a question. I listed the reason above. Childishness.
You don't like it when people point out when you are wrong. You repeatedly
emailed me asking me to stop pointing out the logical flaws in your posts, and
I said I no. So you stop-listed me. *shrug* oh well. I guess not being allowed
to buy from you is the price I have to pay to be allowed to disagree with you
in public.
It's a fair trade.
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Before we proceed further Marc, let me ask you (and the forum) if you really
want me to publicly explain why I stoplisted you? It certainly isn't for
the reason you noted above. If you (and everyone else) wants me to discuss such
private things, by all means continue with your public crying about it.
Or we can discuss the issue at hand - this suggestion.
Your choice.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 13:23 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | Brett and I and anyone else who is interested would
just send each other a bunch of coupons (20% off, 19% off etc) at the start of
the year, and by January 7th we can use those coupons as often as we want for
the rest of the year in any BL store that accepts competitor coupons.
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And that would be perfectly fine with me. In fact, it would mean this suggestion
WORKED to get you to place an order with me. An order you might not have otherwise
placed if you did not get the discount.
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Wrong.
I would take the coupon TO THE STORE THAT I AM ALREADY BUYING FROM, to see what
kind of discount I can get.
Besides ... for some reason you have stop-listed me. So you're not getting
ANY money from me. Childish.
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You know why I stop-listed you Marc.
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I do. It wasn't a question. I listed the reason above. Childishness.
You don't like it when people point out when you are wrong. You repeatedly
emailed me asking me to stop pointing out the logical flaws in your posts, and
I said I no. So you stop-listed me. *shrug* oh well. I guess not being allowed
to buy from you is the price I have to pay to be allowed to disagree with you
in public.
It's a fair trade.
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Before we proceed further Marc, let me ask you (and the forum) if you really
want me to publicly explain why I stoplisted you? It certainly isn't for
the reason you noted above. If you (and everyone else) wants me to discuss such
private things, by all means continue with your public crying about it.
Or we can discuss the issue at hand - this suggestion.
Your choice.
Thor
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You are in control of what you want to discuss. Don't pretend otherwise.
As for the suggestion, that's precisely what I have been discussing. It is
a terrible idea.
1. It would break the existing coupon system. Causing sellers who truly want
to send coupons to manually apply discounts instead.
2. It would be "gamed" so that sellers who opt-in would lose money.
3. It's already possible to get the requested effect, yet basically nobody
is doing so. Asking to automate a process that nobody currently employs is a
collosal waste of time.
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Marc.
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
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You are in control of what you want to discuss. Don't pretend otherwise.
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Then I choose to be the bigger man and not attempt to make this discussion personal
as you just did. Private things should remain private, and I will not be taking
your bait to discuss such things here in your rather obvious attempt to divert
and move this discussion off into personal irrelevancies.
Thor
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I succinctly listed the three most important reasons why your suggestion is a
bad idea, and that's the only part of my message that you cut.
So you snip out *everything* I had to say about the suggestion, you leave the
one sentence that addressed something else, and you use this to claim that *I*
am trying to divert the discussion to something personal!?
Absolutely staggering.
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Marc.
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
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You are in control of what you want to discuss. Don't pretend otherwise.
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Then I choose to be the bigger man and not attempt to make this discussion personal
as you just did. Private things should remain private, and I will not be taking
your bait to discuss such things here in your rather obvious attempt to divert
and move this discussion off into personal irrelevancies.
Thor
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Sorry you brought up as a discussion point.
In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
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Besides ... for some reason you have stop-listed me. So you're not getting
ANY money from me. Childish.
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You know why I stop-listed you Marc. I explained it to you in our last email
exchange in response to the 4 or 5 emails you sent me. If you want to cry about
private things in public, cry away.
Thor
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
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You are in control of what you want to discuss. Don't pretend otherwise.
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Then I choose to be the bigger man and not attempt to make this discussion personal
as you just did. Private things should remain private, and I will not be taking
your bait to discuss such things here in your rather obvious attempt to divert
and move this discussion off into personal irrelevancies.
Thor
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Sorry you brought up as a discussion point.
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Baloney! Marc brought up the private matter of my stoplisting him. Not I. Are
you really so blinded by your bias that you can't see something so obvious
to everyone else? Or are you just baiting again?
Thor
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He brought up that he was stoplisted. You brought up why -with the usual veiled
implications- as a discussion point.
Not the same. Read the posts. They are all still there.
If I was baiting you, I would ask why you deleted so many of your posts on March
28?
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| In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
3. It's already possible to get the requested effect, yet basically nobody
is doing so. Asking to automate a process that nobody currently employs is a
collosal waste of time.
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Marc.
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Exactly this is a very very very very very low priority suggestion.
Consider the number of coupons used as a percent of total orders. Then figure
how many would 'coupon store shift.'
The way I figure more time has already been wasted on this than will ever be
recovered in additional sales generated if this were implemented.
AB
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
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| | | | I do. It wasn't a question. I listed the reason above. Childishness.
You don't like it when people point out when you are wrong. You repeatedly
emailed me asking me to stop pointing out the logical flaws in your posts, and
I said I no. So you stop-listed me. *shrug* oh well. I guess not being allowed
to buy from you is the price I have to pay to be allowed to disagree with you
in public.
It's a fair trade.
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Before we proceed further Marc, let me ask you (and the forum) if you really
want me to publicly explain why I stoplisted you? It certainly isn't for
the reason you noted above. If you (and everyone else) wants me to discuss such
private things, by all means continue with your public crying about it.
Or we can discuss the issue at hand - this suggestion.
Your choice.
Thor
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Please show us the ways in which you bear such suffering while only trying for
good of all BrickLink.
I for one am glad that you have such a stout constitution, most would have been
crushed by the weight of such heavy load by now. But you soldier on...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HygUFfiHDLE
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | As a seller, I would like to have the option of honoring competitor coupons.
Please make it so that all coupons can be honored by any seller who opts into
accepting coupons issued by other sellers. Of course, the opt in should include
settings so the seller can define conditions and maximum percentage and dollar
limits to the coupons he/she will accept.
This happens in the real world. I see no reason why it can't also happen
here for those who want it. As a seller, just as in the real world, it may help
bring me more business if I can advertise that I will honor competitor coupons
(subject to certain conditions of course).
Thor
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Voted no this one. If I wanted to buy something from your store I'd just
have to get a mate's store to give me a coupon. Whilst I understand of course
that you would already have factored in your options to accept that or not I
personally think coupons are over used now, some stores issuing them routinely,
and would prefer not to have more schemes to encourage that as it makes the price
guide, purchasing decisions, etc. more and more complicated.
Robert
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| In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | As a seller, I would like to have the option of honoring competitor coupons.
Please make it so that all coupons can be honored by any seller who opts into
accepting coupons issued by other sellers. Of course, the opt in should include
settings so the seller can define conditions and maximum percentage and dollar
limits to the coupons he/she will accept.
This happens in the real world. I see no reason why it can't also happen
here for those who want it. As a seller, just as in the real world, it may help
bring me more business if I can advertise that I will honor competitor coupons
(subject to certain conditions of course).
Thor
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Voted no this one. If I wanted to buy something from your store I'd just
have to get a mate's store to give me a coupon. Whilst I understand of course
that you would already have factored in your options to accept that or not I
personally think coupons are over used now, some stores issuing them routinely,
and would prefer not to have more schemes to encourage that as it makes the price
guide, purchasing decisions, etc. more and more complicated.
Robert
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As an add-on, if the suggestion were implemented then IMO there should also be
an "option" for sellers to issue coupons that are not-transferable 
Robert
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As an add-on, if the suggestion were implemented then IMO there should also be
an "option" for sellers to issue coupons that are not-transferable
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LOL. That would effectively kill the suggestion. Why would a seller want his
coupons honored by the competition? Fortunately, in the real world, it does not
work this way. My grocer can still choose to honor a coupon issued by another
grocer even if that coupon says it is valid only at the second grocer's store.
Thor
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
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As an add-on, if the suggestion were implemented then IMO there should also be
an "option" for sellers to issue coupons that are not-transferable
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LOL. That would effectively kill the suggestion.
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Then that is the suggestion I will make if yours is implemented 
Robert
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
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As an add-on, if the suggestion were implemented then IMO there should also be
an "option" for sellers to issue coupons that are not-transferable
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LOL. That would effectively kill the suggestion. Why would a seller want his
coupons honored by the competition? Fortunately, in the real world, it does not
work this way. My grocer can still choose to honor a coupon issued by another
grocer even if that coupon says it is valid only at the second grocer's store.
Thor
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In B&M stores yes but if Tesco issue me with an e-coupon for on-line shopping
it can't be "redeemed" at another store like Walmart (Asda here) because
even if I provided evidence of it to Asda and they decided to accept it... it
would still be valid in Tesco's system.. so I could use it in both! Maybe
then that is how this should work - you will "match any coupon" but you cannot
"redeem" or "cancel" a coupon that I issued. IMO that is a major difference
between on-line shopping and B&M. BL is only the platform here, not the seller,
the e-coupon should be maintained by the store that issued it IMO.
Robert
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| In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | Maybe then that is how this should work - you will "match any coupon" but you cannot
"redeem" or "cancel" a coupon that I issued. IMO that is a major difference
between on-line shopping and B&M. BL is only the platform here, not the seller,
the e-coupon should be maintained by the store that issued it IMO.
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I agree. My suggestion was not intended to allow one seller to cancel coupons
issued by another seller. By "honor" I meant it could be accepted by others as
well - not "instead of". Thanks for bringing this up.
Thor
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | Maybe then that is how this should work - you will "match any coupon" but you cannot
"redeem" or "cancel" a coupon that I issued. IMO that is a major difference
between on-line shopping and B&M. BL is only the platform here, not the seller,
the e-coupon should be maintained by the store that issued it IMO.
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I agree. My suggestion was not intended to allow one seller to cancel coupons
issued by another seller. By "honor" I meant it could be accepted by others as
well - not "instead of". Thanks for bringing this up.
Thor
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AH! OK then, I'm kind of neutral on it now. You can do this now I guess,
you just need the buyer to provide evidence of holding a competitor's coupon...
and there is not much the competitor can do to prevent that. My joking comment
about the coupon being not transferable would in effect be the case anyway though,
you would just be in effect issuing a matching one leaving the competitor's
one in place.
Robert
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | Maybe then that is how this should work - you will "match any coupon" but you cannot
"redeem" or "cancel" a coupon that I issued. IMO that is a major difference
between on-line shopping and B&M. BL is only the platform here, not the seller,
the e-coupon should be maintained by the store that issued it IMO.
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I agree. My suggestion was not intended to allow one seller to cancel coupons
issued by another seller. By "honor" I meant it could be accepted by others as
well - not "instead of". Thanks for bringing this up.
Thor
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Thinking more, I'm still voting no. I'm not a big issuer of coupons but
I'm more concerned about the principles of this. I can't stop a customer
who has one of my coupons "asking" you if you will match it but what I do not
want is for BL to give you my data about coupons I have issued. I pay BL to be
my store platform, I expect that confidential deals I make with my customers
to be kept as such. In effect this would be a negative point of using BL as a
sales platform. Net, I think this initiative is something you have to market
via your splash page and not get data via the system to assist it much like the
B&M example you compare with.
Robert
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| In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | Maybe then that is how this should work - you will "match any coupon" but you cannot
"redeem" or "cancel" a coupon that I issued. IMO that is a major difference
between on-line shopping and B&M. BL is only the platform here, not the seller,
the e-coupon should be maintained by the store that issued it IMO.
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I agree. My suggestion was not intended to allow one seller to cancel coupons
issued by another seller. By "honor" I meant it could be accepted by others as
well - not "instead of". Thanks for bringing this up.
Thor
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Thinking more, I'm still voting no. I'm not a big issuer of coupons but
I'm more concerned about the principles of this. I can't stop a customer
who has one of my coupons "asking" you if you will match it but what I do not
want is for BL to give you my data about coupons I have issued. I pay BL to be
my store platform, I expect that confidential deals I make with my customers
to be kept as such. In effect this would be a negative point of using BL as a
sales platform. Net, I think this initiative is something you have to market
via your splash page and not get data via the system to assist it much like the
B&M example you compare with.
Robert
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Another question would be if person A used your store coupon in Foster's
store, would that coupon be redeemed?
would they still have it for use in your store?
Maybe we can have people automatically price match too 
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Another question would be if person A used your store coupon in Foster's
store, would that coupon be redeemed?
would they still have it for use in your store?
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Answered earlier in this thread. The coupon could still be used at the store
that issued it.
Thor
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| In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
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Thinking more, I'm still voting no. I'm not a big issuer of coupons but
I'm more concerned about the principles of this. I can't stop a customer
who has one of my coupons "asking" you if you will match it but what I do not
want is for BL to give you my data about coupons I have issued. I pay BL to be
my store platform, I expect that confidential deals I make with my customers
to be kept as such. In effect this would be a negative point of using BL as a
sales platform. Net, I think this initiative is something you have to market
via your splash page and not get data via the system to assist it much like the
B&M example you compare with.
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The system could easily block out the name of the issuer.
Thor
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | As a seller, I would like to have the option of honoring competitor coupons.
Please make it so that all coupons can be honored by any seller who opts into
accepting coupons issued by other sellers. Of course, the opt in should include
settings so the seller can define conditions and maximum percentage and dollar
limits to the coupons he/she will accept.
This happens in the real world. I see no reason why it can't also happen
here for those who want it. As a seller, just as in the real world, it may help
bring me more business if I can advertise that I will honor competitor coupons
(subject to certain conditions of course).
Thor
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So far two most often arguments used by you are
a) that if someone is against this suggestion, then "well then it is also true
about all other coupons in general"
b) "in the real world"
-a) no. A coupon right now is issued by a specific seller, and often to a specific
buyer. Even though most shops issue uniform coupons for everyone, issuing a coupon
is a personalized invitation to visit a shop. Say my prices are higher than competition,
but I want to invite a certain buyer to shop at my store. I do not want my buyer
to take that coupon and shop somewhere else. It does no good to me.
-b) in the real world that I am living in... If I attempted to use a coupon issued
by some other shop, I would be told to stick it up where the sun does not shine
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| In Suggestions, ToddMyers writes:
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| | -b) in the real world that I am living in... If I attempted to use a coupon issued
by some other shop, I would be told to stick it up where the sun does not shine
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Not to step into the line of fire here, but in the US, accepting competitor coupons,
while not universal, is pretty common. I assume it is not so common in your
part of the world.
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Yes. It was exactly my point 
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| In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | As a seller, I would like to have the option of honoring competitor coupons.
Please make it so that all coupons can be honored by any seller who opts into
accepting coupons issued by other sellers. Of course, the opt in should include
settings so the seller can define conditions and maximum percentage and dollar
limits to the coupons he/she will accept.
This happens in the real world. I see no reason why it can't also happen
here for those who want it. As a seller, just as in the real world, it may help
bring me more business if I can advertise that I will honor competitor coupons
(subject to certain conditions of course).
Thor
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So far two most often arguments used by you are
a) that if someone is against this suggestion, then "well then it is also true
about all other coupons in general"
b) "in the real world"
-a) no. A coupon right now is issued by a specific seller, and often to a specific
buyer. Even though most shops issue uniform coupons for everyone, issuing a coupon
is a personalized invitation to visit a shop.
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And I would like to extend that same invitation for that person to visit my shop.
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but I want to invite a certain buyer to shop at my store. I do not want my buyer
to take that coupon and shop somewhere else. It does no good to me.
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As a competing seller, it makes no difference to me that it does YOU no good
for me to accept your coupon. One of my purposes in doing so is to take business
away from you and give it to me. Of course that does you no good. But such is
the nature of competition.
| | -b) in the real world that I am living in... If I attempted to use a coupon issued
by some other shop, I would be told to stick it up where the sun does not shine
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Of course... *IF* you tried to redeem it with a seller who does not accept it.
But I am talking about redeeming it with a seller who DOES accept such coupon.
And in the 'real word" where I live there are many businesses that will price
match or accept coupons issued by their competitors.
So far, I have heard from SELLERS who, quite understandably, don't like the
idea of their coupons being accepted by the competition. But I can't think
of any buyer who would find this to be bad for them. As a buyer, I love it when
merchants honor competitor coupons. It expands my shopping choices, saves me
money and makes me try places I might not otherwise try. Something the coupon
issuer is understandably afraid of.
Thor
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | As a seller, I would like to have the option of honoring competitor coupons.
Please make it so that all coupons can be honored by any seller who opts into
accepting coupons issued by other sellers. Of course, the opt in should include
settings so the seller can define conditions and maximum percentage and dollar
limits to the coupons he/she will accept.
This happens in the real world. I see no reason why it can't also happen
here for those who want it. As a seller, just as in the real world, it may help
bring me more business if I can advertise that I will honor competitor coupons
(subject to certain conditions of course).
Thor
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So far two most often arguments used by you are
a) that if someone is against this suggestion, then "well then it is also true
about all other coupons in general"
b) "in the real world"
-a) no. A coupon right now is issued by a specific seller, and often to a specific
buyer. Even though most shops issue uniform coupons for everyone, issuing a coupon
is a personalized invitation to visit a shop.
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And I would like to extend that same invitation for that person to visit my shop.
| | Say my prices are higher than competition,
but I want to invite a certain buyer to shop at my store. I do not want my buyer
to take that coupon and shop somewhere else. It does no good to me.
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As a competing seller, it makes no difference to me that it does YOU no good
for me to accept your coupon. One of my purposes in doing so is to take business
away from you and give it to me. Of course that does you no good. But such is
the nature of competition.
| | -b) in the real world that I am living in... If I attempted to use a coupon issued
by some other shop, I would be told to stick it up where the sun does not shine
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Of course... *IF* you tried to redeem it with a seller who does not accept it.
But I am talking about redeeming it with a seller who DOES accept such coupon.
And in the 'real word" where I live there are many businesses that will price
match or accept coupons issued by their competitors.
So far, I have heard from SELLERS who, quite understandably, don't like the
idea of their coupons being accepted by the competition. But I can't think
of any buyer who would find this to be bad for them. As a buyer, I love it when
merchants honor competitor coupons. It expands my shopping choices, saves me
money and makes me try places I might not otherwise try. Something the coupon
issuer is understandably afraid of.
Thor
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Yes the suggestion looks good from buyers point of view. But as I mentioned in
my first reply - I prefer not to make things more complicated.
I, as a seller, do not want my coupon to be used elsewhere. I also have no interest
in matching other seller's coupons that my buyers have.
If my buyers want to negotiate the prices they are welcome to give it a shot,
but I do not want to spend half of hour each day cancelling coupon match requests.
If this gets implemented and catches up, it would become a big game of coupons.
I would eventually be forced to either choose to play the game or start losing
out on potential sales. That's what I have in mind when saying that there
is no need to make things more complicated than they have to be.
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If this gets implemented and catches up, it would become a big game of coupons.
I would eventually be forced to either choose to play the game or start losing
out on potential sales. That's what I have in mind when saying that there
is no need to make things more complicated than they have to be.
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You weren't here at the time, but the EXACT same argument was made when coupons
were first suggested here. There were some who strongly opposed the idea of having
ANY coupons on BrickLink for the exact same reasons you note. They feared it
would be over-used, make things more "complicated", and cause them more work.
Clearly, that did not happen, nor will it happen with this suggestion.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | enig | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2014 12:36 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
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If this gets implemented and catches up, it would become a big game of coupons.
I would eventually be forced to either choose to play the game or start losing
out on potential sales. That's what I have in mind when saying that there
is no need to make things more complicated than they have to be.
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You weren't here at the time, but the EXACT same argument was made when coupons
were first suggested here. There were some who strongly opposed the idea of having
ANY coupons on BrickLink for the exact same reasons you note. They feared it
would be over-used, make things more "complicated", and cause them more work.
Clearly, that did not happen, nor will it happen with this suggestion.
Thor
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Coupons are not over-used because they are not so easy to abuse. You want to
make it easier, so I dont think your argument "it will not happen with this suggestion"
has strong grounds. It would definitely happenm just the question is -
to what degree.
In my mind this is, even though not the same, but pretty close to mass-coupon
idea.
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=489459
In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | I vote no. I ALWAYS vote no to any suggestions to automate or facilitate the
mass issuance of coupons. In the long run, I don't think this would be good for
sellers, buyers or BrickLink. If you want to show returning customers that you
genuinely appreciate their business, taking a few seconds to manually issue a
coupon is not much to ask for. When I go to a store in the real world, it is
so much better when the clerk smiles and actually says "thank you" and hands
me a coupon than if they just press a button and a taped thank you and coupon
are spit out of some machine.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2014 13:39 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
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If this gets implemented and catches up, it would become a big game of coupons.
I would eventually be forced to either choose to play the game or start losing
out on potential sales. That's what I have in mind when saying that there
is no need to make things more complicated than they have to be.
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You weren't here at the time, but the EXACT same argument was made when coupons
were first suggested here. There were some who strongly opposed the idea of having
ANY coupons on BrickLink for the exact same reasons you note. They feared it
would be over-used, make things more "complicated", and cause them more work.
Clearly, that did not happen, nor will it happen with this suggestion.
Thor
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Coupons are not over-used because they are not so easy to abuse. You want to
make it easier, so I dont think your argument "it will not happen with this suggestion"
has strong grounds. It would definitely happenm just the question is -
to what degree.
In my mind this is, even though not the same, but pretty close to mass-coupon
idea.
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=489459
In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | I vote no. I ALWAYS vote no to any suggestions to automate or facilitate the
mass issuance of coupons. In the long run, I don't think this would be good for
sellers, buyers or BrickLink. If you want to show returning customers that you
genuinely appreciate their business, taking a few seconds to manually issue a
coupon is not much to ask for. When I go to a store in the real world, it is
so much better when the clerk smiles and actually says "thank you" and hands
me a coupon than if they just press a button and a taped thank you and coupon
are spit out of some machine.
Thor
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Well, I don't think this is anywhere near the issuance of mass-coupons. In
fact, I will let you in on a little secret. I was actually hoping implementation
of this suggestion might actually REDUCE the number of coupons issued on BrickLink.
If sellers realized their coupons might be honored by a competitor, some might
not be so quick to issue so many coupons. As a seller, I don't issue many
coupons and whatever coupons I do issue are designed specifically to encourage
larger bulkier orders. In fact, I would be perfectly fine with BL doing away
with all coupons. But it won't happen. I just thought it might be useful
to use a competitor's tool to my advantage as both a buyer and seller. But
others are right... There more important suggestions to consider. This one is
way down the line.
Thor
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| | | | | Author: | theboystoys | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2014 12:12 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | As a seller, I would like to have the option of honoring competitor coupons.
Please make it so that all coupons can be honored by any seller who opts into
accepting coupons issued by other sellers. Of course, the opt in should include
settings so the seller can define conditions and maximum percentage and dollar
limits to the coupons he/she will accept.
This happens in the real world. I see no reason why it can't also happen
here for those who want it. As a seller, just as in the real world, it may help
bring me more business if I can advertise that I will honor competitor coupons
(subject to certain conditions of course).
Thor
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Instead of accepting others coupons, why wouldn't you just issue your own
coupons whenever you want? In the US they also have "Price Match Guarantees"
If I take an ad in from store B and show it to store A. Store A will often match
the price. It works fine for B&M stores, but you could see the problem doing
it in this venue.
"Hello,
I was looking to order 50 lots from you. On one you're the best price, but
the other 49 lots, I've found them cheaper elsewhere. On the LBG 1X1 Brick
your price is $0.07, but another seller has them listed ON SALE for $0.02. On
the DBG 2X2.........."
Matt
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| | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2014 12:20 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, theboyslegos writes:
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Instead of accepting others coupons, why wouldn't you just issue your own
coupons whenever you want?
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I want to specifically target buyers who hold coupons from my competitors. But
I don't know who those buyers are. Thus, I cannot issue them my own coupons
if I don't know who they are.
Maybe this suggestion is TOO competitive for some. It is, admittedly, an attempt
to take business away from my competitors and get their buyers to at least try
me to see how I compare with the competition. There is nothing unfair about such
specific targeting of buyers and competitors. It happens all the time here. And
it is often more effective than generalized non-specific marketing efforts.
I understand why sellers don't like it. But so far I have not heard why buyers
would not like it.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2014 12:32 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, theboyslegos writes:
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Instead of accepting others coupons, why wouldn't you just issue your own
coupons whenever you want?
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I want to specifically target buyers who hold coupons from my competitors. But
I don't know who those buyers are. Thus, I cannot issue them my own coupons
if I don't know who they are.
Maybe this suggestion is TOO competitive for some. It is, admittedly, an attempt
to take business away from my competitors and get their buyers to at least try
me to see how I compare with the competition. There is nothing unfair about such
specific targeting of buyers and competitors. It happens all the time here. And
it is often more effective than generalized non-specific marketing efforts.
I understand why sellers don't like it. But so far I have not heard why buyers
would not like it.
Thor
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Well I still don't like it but just to be open-minded, how about BrickLink
Limited? I'm sure they'd like it after all commission is paid as a percentage
of gross order batch value right? You pay $3 fees for a $100 order but you pay
$6 fees for a $200 order reduced to $100 with a 50% off coupon. Might get implemented
on this basis! For me all this coupon malarkey is just another diversion form
the price guide, I'll stick with good old fashioned simple pricing and the
same price to all my customers - that is something I've considered many times,
how would my regular customer feel if he found I was giving secret discounts
to new customers? It's just not our business model.
Robert
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2014 13:31 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
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Well I still don't like it but just to be open-minded, how about BrickLink
Limited? I'm sure they'd like it after all commission is paid as a percentage
of gross order batch value right? You pay $3 fees for a $100 order but you pay
$6 fees for a $200 order reduced to $100 with a 50% off coupon.
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Robert, just an FYI, but I think this is how BL has always worked. The seller
fee is charged on the gross order amount before being discounted by any coupon.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2014 15:08 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
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Well I still don't like it but just to be open-minded, how about BrickLink
Limited? I'm sure they'd like it after all commission is paid as a percentage
of gross order batch value right? You pay $3 fees for a $100 order but you pay
$6 fees for a $200 order reduced to $100 with a 50% off coupon.
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Robert, just an FYI, but I think this is how BL has always worked. The seller
fee is charged on the gross order amount before being discounted by any coupon.
Thor
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My point exactly! Coupons add transaction cost which the customer ultimately
pays.
Robert
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | theboystoys | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2014 12:32 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, theboyslegos writes:
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Instead of accepting others coupons, why wouldn't you just issue your own
coupons whenever you want?
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I want to specifically target buyers who hold coupons from my competitors. But
I don't know who those buyers are. Thus, I cannot issue them my own coupons
if I don't know who they are.
Maybe this suggestion is TOO competitive for some. It is, admittedly, an attempt
to take business away from my competitors and get their buyers to at least try
me to see how I compare with the competition.
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The TOO competitive argument holds no water at all. The price guide clearly shows
the exact price of every seller, for every item available for purchase. I can't
imagine another business model that would create the competition more clearly.
| | There is nothing unfair about such
specific targeting of buyers and competitors. It happens all the time here. And
it is often more effective than generalized non-specific marketing efforts.
I understand why sellers don't like it. But so far I have not heard why buyers
would not like it.
Thor
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If sellers do not like the idea, doesn't speak to the usefulness of the suggestion.
In your other thread about removing the MSRP pretty much everyone thinks that
should be removed. There's something BL should do today.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | bb53904 | | Posted: | Apr 11, 2014 00:51 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | I understand why sellers don't like it. But so far I have not heard why buyers
would not like it.
Thor
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I have 13 open coupons. Most of them are from stores that were willing to accept
my personal check as payment. In order to lure me to your store, you would have
to match this one exactly as it is written with that same payment method. Even
then I might not buy anything from you, because you made it too complicated for
me, whereas those sellers simply showed up in the searches I did with the personal
check filter.
expires Nov 5, 2014 10% Off All Items Except Sets
15% off if order total is US $100.00 or more
20% off if order total is US $175.00 or more
25% off if order total is US $250.00 or more
Thea
Always Learning!
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| | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2014 12:31 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | | | | | Author: | theboystoys | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2014 12:43 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mabccc writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | As a seller, I would like to have the option of honoring competitor coupons.
Please make it so that all coupons can be honored by any seller who opts into
accepting coupons issued by other sellers. Of course, the opt in should include
settings so the seller can define conditions and maximum percentage and dollar
limits to the coupons he/she will accept.
This happens in the real world. I see no reason why it can't also happen
here for those who want it. As a seller, just as in the real world, it may help
bring me more business if I can advertise that I will honor competitor coupons
(subject to certain conditions of course).
Thor
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I also think it complicates things too much, and just leads to more haggling
over prices, with email asking why won't you accept this coupon when you
accepted that one before.
A month or so ago, I got a prospective buyer asking if I would price match a
minifig with someone in Malaysia. I had a quick look and it was clear he was
trying it on. So I said sure, although I will take into account that he had a
minimum purchase amount, a PayPal fee to be added, much higher shipping as it
was international and his was used. If he wanted it price matched, I would let
my kids play with the figure for a couple of days to make it used and charge
him an extra £6 to make the prices the same taking into account all the fees
and postage and I would wait three weeks before posting it to make the postage
delay the same. The next day he bought it from me at the price I was selling
it at.
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That's funny, made me laugh. Thanks.
Matt
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| | | | | Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2014 13:56 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | As a seller, I would like to have the option of honoring competitor coupons.
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You already can. No new functionality is required.
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Marc.
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| | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2014 14:09 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | As a seller, I would like to have the option of honoring competitor coupons.
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You already can. No new functionality is required.
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And, with that same logic, since sellers can already give a discount anytime
they want, we might as well do away with all coupons as well. Why automate or
systemize a feature if people can do it manually themselves? Right?
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2014 14:15 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | As a seller, I would like to have the option of honoring competitor coupons.
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You already can. No new functionality is required.
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And, with that same logic, since sellers can already give a discount anytime
they want, we might as well do away with all coupons as well. Why automate or
systemize a feature if people can do it manually themselves? Right?
Thor
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No automation is needed. When I gi to TRU with a competitor's couppn, there
doesnt need to be any coupon magic to make it work there. They just accept it.
So can you. Your suggestion litterally already exists.
--
Marc.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Rolf | | Posted: | Apr 10, 2014 16:59 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | As a seller, I would like to have the option of honoring competitor coupons.
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You already can. No new functionality is required.
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And, with that same logic, since sellers can already give a discount anytime
they want, we might as well do away with all coupons as well. Why automate or
systemize a feature if people can do it manually themselves? Right?
Thor
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No automation is needed. When I gi to TRU with a competitor's couppn, there
doesnt need to be any coupon magic to make it work there. They just accept it.
So can you. Your suggestion litterally already exists.
--
Marc.
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So far I know, I cannot use any coupons here when it's for other store than
one I'm at.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Andy_Bell | | Posted: | Apr 11, 2014 00:04 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Rolf writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | As a seller, I would like to have the option of honoring competitor coupons.
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You already can. No new functionality is required.
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And, with that same logic, since sellers can already give a discount anytime
they want, we might as well do away with all coupons as well. Why automate or
systemize a feature if people can do it manually themselves? Right?
Thor
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No automation is needed. When I gi to TRU with a competitor's couppn, there
doesnt need to be any coupon magic to make it work there. They just accept it.
So can you. Your suggestion litterally already exists.
--
Marc.
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So far I know, I cannot use any coupons here when it's for other store than
one I'm at.
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He has stated that this suggestion would not 'redeem' the coupon so it
could still be used as the issuer intended.
Right now a buyer could provide 'proof' that he has a coupon and Foster
will honor it,
within whatever limitations he sets. There is no effort required from BL.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Apr 11, 2014 00:11 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
| | There is no effort required from BL.
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The same could be said for any coupon. Any seller can give anyone a discount.
No effort is required from BL. So why do we have the coupon feature here? Because
a coupon makes it easy and automatic. Same with this suggestion.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Andy_Bell | | Posted: | Apr 11, 2014 08:58 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | Because
a coupon makes it easy and automatic.
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I think this is what is being discussed.
Some don't think it makes it easy or automatic rather the suggestion sounds
like it will be challenging to implement, and more than likely confusing to buyers.
AND a low priority.
Andy
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Apr 11, 2014 09:01 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | Because
a coupon makes it easy and automatic.
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I think this is what is being discussed.
Some don't think it makes it easy or automatic rather the suggestion sounds
like it will be challenging to implement, and more than likely confusing to buyers.
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NO more challenging or confusing than the current coupon feature.
Quite true.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | enig | | Posted: | Apr 11, 2014 09:25 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | Because
a coupon makes it easy and automatic.
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I think this is what is being discussed.
Some don't think it makes it easy or automatic rather the suggestion sounds
like it will be challenging to implement, and more than likely confusing to buyers.
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NO more challenging or confusing than the current coupon feature.
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As I mentioned earlier, in the real world that I am living in there is no such
concept of accepting someone else's coupon. Yes you can almost always negotiate
a price for your new Fridge or a TV, but not for groceries or the like.
If you have a coupon for a pizza - would it be honored by some other pizza chain
in US?
The coupon culture as a whole is next to non-existent in many parts of "the real
world". Implement this, and then you will have to be answering google-translate
emails from customers who have not a slightest clue what is going on, sand why
you dont accept their coupons.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Apr 11, 2014 09:53 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, enig writes:
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If you have a coupon for a pizza - would it be honored by some other pizza chain
in US?
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In some places, yes.
| | The coupon culture as a whole is next to non-existent in many parts of "the real
world". Implement this, and then you will have to be answering google-translate
emails from customers who have not a slightest clue what is going on, sand why
you dont accept their coupons.
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That's strange. We don't seem to be having this problem now with our
current coupon feature. I am NOT getting ANY Google-translated emails from buyers
all over the world asking me for coupons or why I don't give them one.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Apr 11, 2014 09:55 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
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If you have a coupon for a pizza - would it be honored by some other pizza chain
in US?
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In some places, yes.
| | The coupon culture as a whole is next to non-existent in many parts of "the real
world". Implement this, and then you will have to be answering google-translate
emails from customers who have not a slightest clue what is going on, sand why
you dont accept their coupons.
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That's strange. We don't seem to be having this problem now with our
current coupon feature. I am NOT getting ANY Google-translated emails from buyers
all over the world asking me for coupons or why I don't give them one.
Thor
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but you probably will now
Robert
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
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If you have a coupon for a pizza - would it be honored by some other pizza chain
in US?
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In some places, yes.
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I said "coupon culture" for a reason. But this still shocked me (in a bad way).
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| | The coupon culture as a whole is next to non-existent in many parts of "the real
world". Implement this, and then you will have to be answering google-translate
emails from customers who have not a slightest clue what is going on, sand why
you dont accept their coupons.
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That's strange. We don't seem to be having this problem now with our
current coupon feature. I am NOT getting ANY Google-translated emails from buyers
all over the world asking me for coupons or why I don't give them one.
Thor
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What you replied has nothing to do with the point that I expressed. I am afraid
I have to back out from this discussion at this point
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Brettj666 | | Posted: | Apr 11, 2014 10:04 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
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a coupon makes it easy and automatic.
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I think this is what is being discussed.
Some don't think it makes it easy or automatic rather the suggestion sounds
like it will be challenging to implement, and more than likely confusing to buyers.
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NO more challenging or confusing than the current coupon feature.
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As I mentioned earlier, in the real world that I am living in there is no such
concept of accepting someone else's coupon. Yes you can almost always negotiate
a price for your new Fridge or a TV, but not for groceries or the like.
If you have a coupon for a pizza - would it be honored by some other pizza chain
in US?
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For the most part yes (in Canada), Competitors coupons are welcome with things
like Pizza, oil changes,
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The coupon culture as a whole is next to non-existent in many parts of "the real
world". Implement this, and then you will have to be answering google-translate
emails from customers who have not a slightest clue what is going on, sand why
you dont accept their coupons.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Andy_Bell | | Posted: | Apr 11, 2014 18:13 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | Because
a coupon makes it easy and automatic.
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I think this is what is being discussed.
Some don't think it makes it easy or automatic rather the suggestion sounds
like it will be challenging to implement, and more than likely confusing to buyers.
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NO more challenging or confusing than the current coupon feature.
Quite true.
Thor
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Looking at the present implementation - of an issued coupon - and you want to
add your own layers on top of it:
| | the opt in should include
settings so the seller can define conditions and maximum percentage and dollar
limits to the coupons he/she will accept.
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Based on a couple coupons I have sitting it my box - you are going to impose
your own limits, conditions and percentages on top of this... and tell me it
will be no harder than the present system to implement?
I am not a programmer by trade - but I have done a decent amount of work with
a donor, contact and volunteer hours tracking database in VBA and SQL for my
local Habitat for Humanity. So I know something about parsing and comparing these
types of entries. And the present coupon system already has many variables to
handle. Not saying it is not doable - look at the nice MSRP feature recently
introduced - I would think the coding time and effort would be similar to that
project.
And that buyers will not be confused?
In general, some people are more easily confused that others. And then there
is the language and currency issues inherent with an international website.
So explain how would your conditions and percentages would simply and plainly
overlay these coupons? Perhaps I am just not envisioning it the same way you
are?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Apr 11, 2014 20:33 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Here's as idea... Why don't we let the BrickLink team decide for itself
whether something is too difficult for them to do. After all, they will have
to do the coding - not me or you. Personally, I don't oppose suggestions
I think may be too technically difficult. Because, like you, I am not a programmer
and won't be doing the programming. If they think it is too hard, that's
fine with me.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Andy_Bell | | Posted: | Apr 11, 2014 22:42 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | Here's as idea... Why don't we let the BrickLink team decide for itself
whether something is too difficult for them to do. After all, they will have
to do the coding - not me or you. Personally, I don't oppose suggestions
I think may be too technically difficult. Because, like you, I am not a programmer
and won't be doing the programming. If they think it is too hard, that's
fine with me.
Thor
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Nice dodge.
Difficulty is an opinion.
Last I heard everyone was allowed to have one, even one not everyone agrees with.
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
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| | And that buyers will not be confused?
In general, some people are more easily confused that others. And then there
is the language and currency issues inherent with an international website.
So explain how would your conditions and percentages would simply and plainly
overlay these coupons? Perhaps I am just not envisioning it the same way you
are?
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How about answering the question?
How would your conditions and percentages would simply and plainly overlay these
coupons?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Apr 11, 2014 22:58 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | Here's as idea... Why don't we let the BrickLink team decide for itself
whether something is too difficult for them to do. After all, they will have
to do the coding - not me or you. Personally, I don't oppose suggestions
I think may be too technically difficult. Because, like you, I am not a programmer
and won't be doing the programming. If they think it is too hard, that's
fine with me.
Thor
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Nice dodge.
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I drive a Chrysler.
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Difficulty is an opinion.
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As you said, you are not a programmer. Nor are you intimately familiar with BrickLink's
coding and what the BrickLink team is technically capable of doing. As such,
your lay opinion on technical difficulty is meaningless speculation to the technician
who is tasked with deciding whether something is doable or not. That is not our
call. Let BrickLink decide what they can and cannot do from a technical point
of view. That's not a dodge. That is reality and common sense.
| | Last I heard everyone was allowed to have one, even one not everyone agrees with.
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Great! The next time you need life-saving surgery, ask your plumber for his opinion.
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| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
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| | And that buyers will not be confused?
In general, some people are more easily confused that others. And then there
is the language and currency issues inherent with an international website.
So explain how would your conditions and percentages would simply and plainly
overlay these coupons? Perhaps I am just not envisioning it the same way you
are?
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How about answering the question?
How would your conditions and percentages would simply and plainly overlay these
coupons?
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That is information I keep to myself and don't share with the competition.
But, in general, the only thing I would probably do is have a maximum ceiling
on the percentage or dollar off amount. Easy peasy. Subject to that maximum,
I would accept ALL the coupons you listed. Why? Because it may give me an order
I might not otherwise receive. It may get me a new customer. And it may give
the buyer a better deal.
Thor
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | Great! The next time you need life-saving surgery, ask your plumber for his opinion.
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Probably ask for advice in the BL forum. No shortage here.
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| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
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| | And that buyers will not be confused?
In general, some people are more easily confused that others. And then there
is the language and currency issues inherent with an international website.
So explain how would your conditions and percentages would simply and plainly
overlay these coupons? Perhaps I am just not envisioning it the same way you
are?
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How about answering the question?
How would your conditions and percentages would simply and plainly overlay these
coupons?
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That is information I keep to myself and don't share with the competition.
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| | But, in general, the only thing I would probably do is have a maximum ceiling
on the percentage or dollar off amount. Easy peasy.
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Did you look at the examples?
Different currencies, some sale eligible, some not, different percentage brackets
different percentages.
So where and when do your maximum ceilings and percentages apply? Which brackets?
How about sale items? Is this figured at time of checkout? Do they send you
a coupon to duplicate? Ho will they know where you've capped or placed
ceilings? At checkout? How does that encourage them to buy. They don't know
what you offering. Will there be a comparison screen - this is what a competitors
coupon looks like in 'this' store. (Given the varied nature of coupons
the overlay will be just as varied.)
I have several coupons - How do I choose the one to 'apply' at your store.
A list? A screen?
I don't care what your actual rates, percentages or caps are... give us a
idea - your vision - of how this could be simply and plainly implemented.
I see a muddle. not easy peasy soup.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 10:35 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | Great! The next time you need life-saving surgery, ask your plumber for his opinion.
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Probably ask for advice in the BL forum. No shortage here.
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| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
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| | And that buyers will not be confused?
In general, some people are more easily confused that others. And then there
is the language and currency issues inherent with an international website.
So explain how would your conditions and percentages would simply and plainly
overlay these coupons? Perhaps I am just not envisioning it the same way you
are?
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How about answering the question?
How would your conditions and percentages would simply and plainly overlay these
coupons?
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That is information I keep to myself and don't share with the competition.
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| | But, in general, the only thing I would probably do is have a maximum ceiling
on the percentage or dollar off amount. Easy peasy.
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Did you look at the examples?
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I certainly did.
| | Different currencies, some sale eligible, some not, different percentage brackets
different percentages.
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And...?
| | So where and when do your maximum ceilings and percentages apply? Which brackets?
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A maximum is a maximum is a maximum. There is no need to needlessly complicate
things. If brackets come in lower than the maximum, then the maximum does not
apply. Simple.
Just one other thing the competitor can decide in their settings whether to accept.
Exactly like things are done now under the current coupon system.
| | Is this figured at time of checkout?
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Yes. The same way BrickLink now handles coupons.
| | Do they send you a coupon to duplicate?
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Nope. The BL system simply checks if there is a valid coupon and then applies
it automatically if I accept it. The same way coupons are currently handled.
| | How will they know where you've capped or placed ceilings? At checkout?
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Yes, at checkout. Just like it does under the current coupon system.
| | How does that encourage them to buy.
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The same way the current coupon system encourages buyers to buy. Some discount
is better than no discount.
| | They don't know what you offering.
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The seller's terms can state what competitor coupons they accept and any
conditions or limits the seller has in their settings.
| | Will there be a comparison screen - this is what a competitors
coupon looks like in 'this' store. (Given the varied nature of coupons
the overlay will be just as varied.)
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Nice tweak, but it is not necessary.
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I have several coupons - How do I choose the one to 'apply' at your store.
A list? A screen?
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A list where the buyer simply picks the coupon they want applied. Just like we
do now when a seller has given you two or more coupons in their shop.
| | I don't care what your actual rates, percentages or caps are... give us a
idea - your vision - of how this could be simply and plainly implemented.
I see a muddle. not easy peasy soup.
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Funny... BrickLink seems to have no problems whatsoever handling any of these
things under the current coupon system. E.g. "Different currencies, some sale
eligible, some not, different percentage brackets, different percentages." If
they can do it under the current coupon system I don't see why they can't
do the same with this suggestion.
Thor
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
| | They don't know what you offering.
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The seller's terms can state what competitor coupons they accept and any
conditions or limits the seller has in their settings.
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So I go to your store, and I have already made a decision to buy. Say your store
is the only store in whole BL that has what I need.
I then check your terms and see that you accept competitors coupons. Oooooosm.
I have no coupons(1) but I go ask a friend to issue me one so I can take advantage
of you.
I will be doing this every_single_time. How does this benefit you, or any other
seller for that matter?
(1) To come prepared, every now and then I ask my friends to send me some coupons
so I always have full range from x% to xx%
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | duhfeet | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 10:57 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
| | They don't know what you offering.
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The seller's terms can state what competitor coupons they accept and any
conditions or limits the seller has in their settings.
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So I go to your store, and I have already made a decision to buy. Say your store
is the only store in whole BL that has what I need.
I then check your terms and see that you accept competitors coupons. Oooooosm.
I have no coupons(1) but I go ask a friend to issue me one so I can take advantage
of you.
I will be doing this every_single_time. How does this benefit you, or any other
seller for that matter?
(1) To come prepared, every now and then I ask my friends to send me some coupons
so I always have full range from x% to xx%
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Sure, you can ask friends to issue you coupons to use in other stores but if
I had a store I might say that you can use one coupon per purchase with a maximum
value of , for example, 10%. this way you could not use a coupon for 50%. That
is how I understand it.
Ken (in Taiwan)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | enig | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 11:13 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, duhfeet writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
| | They don't know what you offering.
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The seller's terms can state what competitor coupons they accept and any
conditions or limits the seller has in their settings.
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So I go to your store, and I have already made a decision to buy. Say your store
is the only store in whole BL that has what I need.
I then check your terms and see that you accept competitors coupons. Oooooosm.
I have no coupons(1) but I go ask a friend to issue me one so I can take advantage
of you.
I will be doing this every_single_time. How does this benefit you, or any other
seller for that matter?
(1) To come prepared, every now and then I ask my friends to send me some coupons
so I always have full range from x% to xx%
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Sure, you can ask friends to issue you coupons to use in other stores but if
I had a store I might say that you can use one coupon per purchase with a maximum
value of , for example, 10%. this way you could not use a coupon for 50%. That
is how I understand it.
Ken (in Taiwan)
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Yes I think you understand it correctly. So then I would only need a coupon for
100%, so whenever I decide to shop at your store I will be able to max-out your
discount ceiling.
Whether you accept coupons or not would have no influence on my decision to buy
whatsoever. If you are the only one who has what I need - how is accepting a
coupon beneficial to you? What I need is not necessary a single set/part, say
it is a combo of stuff in my wanted-list. So I will be placing an order at your
shop anyways.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | duhfeet | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 11:27 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, duhfeet writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
| | They don't know what you offering.
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The seller's terms can state what competitor coupons they accept and any
conditions or limits the seller has in their settings.
|
So I go to your store, and I have already made a decision to buy. Say your store
is the only store in whole BL that has what I need.
I then check your terms and see that you accept competitors coupons. Oooooosm.
I have no coupons(1) but I go ask a friend to issue me one so I can take advantage
of you.
I will be doing this every_single_time. How does this benefit you, or any other
seller for that matter?
(1) To come prepared, every now and then I ask my friends to send me some coupons
so I always have full range from x% to xx%
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Sure, you can ask friends to issue you coupons to use in other stores but if
I had a store I might say that you can use one coupon per purchase with a maximum
value of , for example, 10%. this way you could not use a coupon for 50%. That
is how I understand it.
Ken (in Taiwan)
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Yes I think you understand it correctly. So then I would only need a coupon for
100%, so whenever I decide to shop at your store I will be able to max-out your
discount ceiling.
Whether you accept coupons or not would have no influence on my decision to buy
whatsoever. If you are the only one who has what I need - how is accepting a
coupon beneficial to you? What I need is not necessary a single set/part, say
it is a combo of stuff in my wanted-list. So I will be placing an order at your
shop anyways.
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If I posted a maximum of a 10% coupon limit, then you would NOT be able to use
a coupon with a value of 100%. 10% would be the most I would accept. Rarely,
in my experience, have I seen only a single store that has what I want. I may
have a minority of what you want but being able to use another stores coupon
may be the incentive you require to purchase what I have.
Ken (in Taiwan)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | enig | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 11:31 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, duhfeet writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, duhfeet writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
| | They don't know what you offering.
|
The seller's terms can state what competitor coupons they accept and any
conditions or limits the seller has in their settings.
|
So I go to your store, and I have already made a decision to buy. Say your store
is the only store in whole BL that has what I need.
I then check your terms and see that you accept competitors coupons. Oooooosm.
I have no coupons(1) but I go ask a friend to issue me one so I can take advantage
of you.
I will be doing this every_single_time. How does this benefit you, or any other
seller for that matter?
(1) To come prepared, every now and then I ask my friends to send me some coupons
so I always have full range from x% to xx%
|
Sure, you can ask friends to issue you coupons to use in other stores but if
I had a store I might say that you can use one coupon per purchase with a maximum
value of , for example, 10%. this way you could not use a coupon for 50%. That
is how I understand it.
Ken (in Taiwan)
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Yes I think you understand it correctly. So then I would only need a coupon for
100%, so whenever I decide to shop at your store I will be able to max-out your
discount ceiling.
Whether you accept coupons or not would have no influence on my decision to buy
whatsoever. If you are the only one who has what I need - how is accepting a
coupon beneficial to you? What I need is not necessary a single set/part, say
it is a combo of stuff in my wanted-list. So I will be placing an order at your
shop anyways.
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If I posted a maximum of a 10% coupon limit, then you would NOT be able to use
a coupon with a value of 100%. 10% would be the most I would accept. Rarely,
in my experience, have I seen only a single store that has what I want. I may
have a minority of what you want but being able to use another stores coupon
may be the incentive you require to purchase what I have.
Ken (in Taiwan)
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I am not talking about situations when I need any persuading to shop at your
store. I mentioned it three times in the post that you replied to.
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| In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, duhfeet writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, duhfeet writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
| | They don't know what you offering.
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The seller's terms can state what competitor coupons they accept and any
conditions or limits the seller has in their settings.
|
So I go to your store, and I have already made a decision to buy. Say your store
is the only store in whole BL that has what I need.
I then check your terms and see that you accept competitors coupons. Oooooosm.
I have no coupons(1) but I go ask a friend to issue me one so I can take advantage
of you.
I will be doing this every_single_time. How does this benefit you, or any other
seller for that matter?
(1) To come prepared, every now and then I ask my friends to send me some coupons
so I always have full range from x% to xx%
|
Sure, you can ask friends to issue you coupons to use in other stores but if
I had a store I might say that you can use one coupon per purchase with a maximum
value of , for example, 10%. this way you could not use a coupon for 50%. That
is how I understand it.
Ken (in Taiwan)
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Yes I think you understand it correctly. So then I would only need a coupon for
100%, so whenever I decide to shop at your store I will be able to max-out your
discount ceiling.
Whether you accept coupons or not would have no influence on my decision to buy
whatsoever. If you are the only one who has what I need - how is accepting a
coupon beneficial to you? What I need is not necessary a single set/part, say
it is a combo of stuff in my wanted-list. So I will be placing an order at your
shop anyways.
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If I posted a maximum of a 10% coupon limit, then you would NOT be able to use
a coupon with a value of 100%. 10% would be the most I would accept. Rarely,
in my experience, have I seen only a single store that has what I want. I may
have a minority of what you want but being able to use another stores coupon
may be the incentive you require to purchase what I have.
Ken (in Taiwan)
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I am not talking about situations when I need any persuading to shop at your
store. I mentioned it three times in the post that you replied to.
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In my opinion we are splitting hairs here. Let me try another approach. Yes,
my store has what you want but after looking at my prices you determine that
it would be more beneficial to buy your parts at perhaps 2 other stores to save
money. But If I accept others coupons, this might make the difference for you
to purchase what I have.
Now if you still feel I am not getting your point, then perhaps I am not and
we should agree to disagree and discontinue this discourse. I am in no way trying
to be enigmatic or obtuse.
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| In Suggestions, duhfeet writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, duhfeet writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, duhfeet writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
| | They don't know what you offering.
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The seller's terms can state what competitor coupons they accept and any
conditions or limits the seller has in their settings.
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So I go to your store, and I have already made a decision to buy. Say your store
is the only store in whole BL that has what I need.
I then check your terms and see that you accept competitors coupons. Oooooosm.
I have no coupons(1) but I go ask a friend to issue me one so I can take advantage
of you.
I will be doing this every_single_time. How does this benefit you, or any other
seller for that matter?
(1) To come prepared, every now and then I ask my friends to send me some coupons
so I always have full range from x% to xx%
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Sure, you can ask friends to issue you coupons to use in other stores but if
I had a store I might say that you can use one coupon per purchase with a maximum
value of , for example, 10%. this way you could not use a coupon for 50%. That
is how I understand it.
Ken (in Taiwan)
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Yes I think you understand it correctly. So then I would only need a coupon for
100%, so whenever I decide to shop at your store I will be able to max-out your
discount ceiling.
Whether you accept coupons or not would have no influence on my decision to buy
whatsoever. If you are the only one who has what I need - how is accepting a
coupon beneficial to you? What I need is not necessary a single set/part, say
it is a combo of stuff in my wanted-list. So I will be placing an order at your
shop anyways.
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If I posted a maximum of a 10% coupon limit, then you would NOT be able to use
a coupon with a value of 100%. 10% would be the most I would accept. Rarely,
in my experience, have I seen only a single store that has what I want. I may
have a minority of what you want but being able to use another stores coupon
may be the incentive you require to purchase what I have.
Ken (in Taiwan)
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I am not talking about situations when I need any persuading to shop at your
store. I mentioned it three times in the post that you replied to.
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In my opinion we are splitting hairs here. Let me try another approach. Yes,
my store has what you want but after looking at my prices you determine that
it would be more beneficial to buy your parts at perhaps 2 other stores to save
money. But If I accept others coupons, this might make the difference for you
to purchase what I have.
Now if you still feel I am not getting your point, then perhaps I am not and
we should agree to disagree and discontinue this discourse. I am in no way trying
to be enigmatic or obtuse.
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Ken, the first post that you replied to started with
So I go to your store, and I have already made a decision to buy
So yes we are speaking about apples and oranges. I asked about apples and you
are talking about oranges.
I have already made a decision to buy. I_have_already_made_a_decision_to_buy.
I am interested in your opinion (about apples), on how it is beneficial for you
to accept coupons, when buyers are already happy with your selection and your
prices, and do no need any persuasion (oranges) to buy from you?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 12:04 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
| | They don't know what you offering.
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The seller's terms can state what competitor coupons they accept and any
conditions or limits the seller has in their settings.
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So I go to your store, and I have already made a decision to buy. Say your store
is the only store in whole BL that has what I need.
I then check your terms and see that you accept competitors coupons. Oooooosm.
I have no coupons(1) but I go ask a friend to issue me one so I can take advantage
of you.
I will be doing this every_single_time. How does this benefit you, or any other
seller for that matter?
(1) To come prepared, every now and then I ask my friends to send me some coupons
so I always have full range from x% to xx%
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This has already been asked and answered in this thread. I do NOT think the majority
of buyers would bother to go through the games you describe. If you do, then
more power to you. If I have already decided I will accept competitor coupons,
that is my risk and choice as a seller. You say you would have placed the order
anyway. I say you are the minority. As a seller, if I choose to accept competitor
coupons, I am betting that I will get more buyers who would not have otherwise
ordered than buyers who would have ordered anyway. If I later find I am losing
this bet, I can simply opt out. Or only offer this during special promotions
when I need to more quickly move many items.
Looking at the way I use coupons, the vast majority of times when I use coupons
are for orders I would NOT have placed anyway without those coupons. In almost
every case, the coupon made the final difference between me buying with that
particular seller, or buying elsewhere or not at all.
Yours was another argument people made opposing coupons when it was first proposed
on BrickLink years ago. They argued that buyers would use or request coupons
from stores they would order from anyway. The argument failed then, and it fails
now.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | enig | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 12:07 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
| | They don't know what you offering.
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The seller's terms can state what competitor coupons they accept and any
conditions or limits the seller has in their settings.
|
So I go to your store, and I have already made a decision to buy. Say your store
is the only store in whole BL that has what I need.
I then check your terms and see that you accept competitors coupons. Oooooosm.
I have no coupons(1) but I go ask a friend to issue me one so I can take advantage
of you.
I will be doing this every_single_time. How does this benefit you, or any other
seller for that matter?
(1) To come prepared, every now and then I ask my friends to send me some coupons
so I always have full range from x% to xx%
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This has already been asked and answered in this thread. I do NOT think the majority
of buyers would bother to go through the games you describe.
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What makes you think so?
| | If you do, then
more power to you. If I have already decided I will accept competitor coupons,
that is my risk and choice as a seller. You say you would have placed the order
anyway. I say you are the minority. As a seller, if I choose to accept competitor
coupons, I am betting that I will get more buyers who would not have otherwise
ordered than buyers who would have ordered anyway. If I later find I am losing
this bet, I can simply opt out. Or only offer this during special promotions
when I need to more quickly move many items.
Looking at the way I use coupons, the vast majority of times when I use coupons
are for orders I would NOT have placed anyway without those coupons. In almost
every case, the coupon made the final difference between me buying with that
particular seller, or buying elsewhere or not at all.
Yours was another argument people made opposing coupons when it was first proposed
on BrickLink years ago. They argued that buyers would use or request coupons
from stores they would order from anyway. The argument failed then, and it fails
now.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 12:22 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
| | They don't know what you offering.
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The seller's terms can state what competitor coupons they accept and any
conditions or limits the seller has in their settings.
|
So I go to your store, and I have already made a decision to buy. Say your store
is the only store in whole BL that has what I need.
I then check your terms and see that you accept competitors coupons. Oooooosm.
I have no coupons(1) but I go ask a friend to issue me one so I can take advantage
of you.
I will be doing this every_single_time. How does this benefit you, or any other
seller for that matter?
(1) To come prepared, every now and then I ask my friends to send me some coupons
so I always have full range from x% to xx%
|
This has already been asked and answered in this thread. I do NOT think the majority
of buyers would bother to go through the games you describe.
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What makes you think so?
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What makes you think they will?
But I will answer your question anyway. The same reason why the vast majority
of buyers don't use or ask for coupons. Buyers can usually get coupons from
most sellers if they simply asked. So why don't they bother doing so? Human
nature. They can't be bothered.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 12:25 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | So why don't they bother doing so? Human
nature. They can't be bothered.
Thor
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Not only that. There is also culture.
Asking for reduced prices is not common in the Netherlands.
Over here many sellers would be a bit insulted if I ask for discounts.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | enig | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 12:44 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
| | They don't know what you offering.
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The seller's terms can state what competitor coupons they accept and any
conditions or limits the seller has in their settings.
|
So I go to your store, and I have already made a decision to buy. Say your store
is the only store in whole BL that has what I need.
I then check your terms and see that you accept competitors coupons. Oooooosm.
I have no coupons(1) but I go ask a friend to issue me one so I can take advantage
of you.
I will be doing this every_single_time. How does this benefit you, or any other
seller for that matter?
(1) To come prepared, every now and then I ask my friends to send me some coupons
so I always have full range from x% to xx%
|
This has already been asked and answered in this thread. I do NOT think the majority
of buyers would bother to go through the games you describe.
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What makes you think so?
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What makes you think they will?
|
Okay I just checked, I spent close to 9.000,- USD during last 6 months at various
BL shops. Shaving off even 5% would make a difference.
Tell me a reason why I would not want to save some money, if I had the opportunity?
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But I will answer your question anyway. The same reason why the vast majority
of buyers don't use or ask for coupons. Buyers can usually get coupons from
most sellers if they simply asked. So why don't they bother doing so? Human
nature. They can't be bothered.
Thor
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Yes most buyers dont ask about coupons. Not because they could not be bothered
but because they have the decency not to. I only asked for better prices in less
than 10% of my purchases, and only when I felt that it is appropriate to do so.
If you eliminate the need to ask for a coupon and automate it (one coupon for
all stores), then yes you can be 100% sure that I, and majority of all buyers
will "bother" themselves and take advantage of that.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 13:28 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
| | They don't know what you offering.
|
The seller's terms can state what competitor coupons they accept and any
conditions or limits the seller has in their settings.
|
So I go to your store, and I have already made a decision to buy. Say your store
is the only store in whole BL that has what I need.
I then check your terms and see that you accept competitors coupons. Oooooosm.
I have no coupons(1) but I go ask a friend to issue me one so I can take advantage
of you.
I will be doing this every_single_time. How does this benefit you, or any other
seller for that matter?
(1) To come prepared, every now and then I ask my friends to send me some coupons
so I always have full range from x% to xx%
|
This has already been asked and answered in this thread. I do NOT think the majority
of buyers would bother to go through the games you describe.
|
What makes you think so?
|
What makes you think they will?
|
Okay I just checked, I spent close to 9.000,- USD during last 6 months at various
BL shops. Shaving off even 5% would make a difference.
Tell me a reason why I would not want to save some money, if I had the opportunity?
| |
But I will answer your question anyway. The same reason why the vast majority
of buyers don't use or ask for coupons. Buyers can usually get coupons from
most sellers if they simply asked. So why don't they bother doing so? Human
nature. They can't be bothered.
Thor
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Yes most buyers dont ask about coupons. Not because they could not be bothered
but because they have the decency not to. I only asked for better prices in less
than 10% of my purchases, and only when I felt that it is appropriate to do so.
|
Are you suggesting that it is not decent or appropriate for buyers to request
coupons? What about those buyers who post in the forum requesting coupons? Like
these:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=809699
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=811627
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=779608
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=778290
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=768456
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=810356
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=810143
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=766934
| | If you eliminate the need to ask for a coupon and automate it (one coupon for
all stores), then yes you can be 100% sure that I, and majority of all buyers
will "bother" themselves and take advantage of that.
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I am NOT asking for "one coupon for all stores". Please do not misrepresent this
suggestion.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | enig | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 13:43 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
| | They don't know what you offering.
|
The seller's terms can state what competitor coupons they accept and any
conditions or limits the seller has in their settings.
|
So I go to your store, and I have already made a decision to buy. Say your store
is the only store in whole BL that has what I need.
I then check your terms and see that you accept competitors coupons. Oooooosm.
I have no coupons(1) but I go ask a friend to issue me one so I can take advantage
of you.
I will be doing this every_single_time. How does this benefit you, or any other
seller for that matter?
(1) To come prepared, every now and then I ask my friends to send me some coupons
so I always have full range from x% to xx%
|
This has already been asked and answered in this thread. I do NOT think the majority
of buyers would bother to go through the games you describe.
|
What makes you think so?
|
What makes you think they will?
|
Okay I just checked, I spent close to 9.000,- USD during last 6 months at various
BL shops. Shaving off even 5% would make a difference.
Tell me a reason why I would not want to save some money, if I had the opportunity?
| |
But I will answer your question anyway. The same reason why the vast majority
of buyers don't use or ask for coupons. Buyers can usually get coupons from
most sellers if they simply asked. So why don't they bother doing so? Human
nature. They can't be bothered.
Thor
|
Yes most buyers dont ask about coupons. Not because they could not be bothered
but because they have the decency not to. I only asked for better prices in less
than 10% of my purchases, and only when I felt that it is appropriate to do so.
|
Are you suggesting that it is not decent or appropriate for buyers to request
coupons? What about those buyers who post in the forum requesting coupons? Like
these:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=809699
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=811627
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=779608
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=778290
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=768456
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=810356
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=810143
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=766934
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1) most of the ones who asked are Americans
2) asking to issue some coupons to see if someone is willing to do so is one
thing, writing to someone personally asking to reduce their prices for you is
another thing. Agree?
If you can not understand what I mean by 1) and 2) then you need some help, but
unfortunately I am not qualified, nor have the patience to give it to you. I
am sorry. Not trying to be insultive (just the opposite) but I dont know how
else I can express myself here.
| | | | If you eliminate the need to ask for a coupon and automate it (one coupon for
all stores), then yes you can be 100% sure that I, and majority of all buyers
will "bother" themselves and take advantage of that.
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I am NOT asking for "one coupon for all stores". Please do not misrepresent this
suggestion.
Thor
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How it would turn into "one coupon for all stores" was explained to you by just
about everyone participating in this thread. How you can not see how their arguments
make sense is a mystery to me. The problem is - I think you can see how their
arguments makes sense.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 14:06 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, enig writes:
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1) most of the ones who asked are Americans
2) asking to issue some coupons to see if someone is willing to do so is one
thing, writing to someone personally asking to reduce their prices for you is
another thing. Agree?
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No, I do not. I am never offended, nor do I consider it indecent or inappropriate
for anyone to politely ask any seller for a coupon or discount.
| | If you can not understand what I mean by 1) and 2) then you need some help, but
unfortunately I am not qualified, nor have the patience to give it to you. I
am sorry. Not trying to be insultive (just the opposite) but I dont know how
else I can express myself here.
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I think you are the one who needs help here. Not trying to be insultive (just
the opposite). But I don't know how else to express it better.
| | | | | | If you eliminate the need to ask for a coupon and automate it (one coupon for
all stores), then yes you can be 100% sure that I, and majority of all buyers
will "bother" themselves and take advantage of that.
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I am NOT asking for "one coupon for all stores". Please do not misrepresent this
suggestion.
Thor
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How it would turn into "one coupon for all stores" was explained to you by just
about everyone participating in this thread.
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And that explains why none of their arguments make sense. Because this suggestion
has NEVER been about having "one coupon for all stores". Some of those opposed
to this suggestion have attempted to distort it in this fashion. But anyone with
an objective mind will see that this suggestion has never asked for "one coupon
for all stores". This suggestion will only be used by those sellers who opt into
it. Their stores are the only places where such coupons can be used (along with
the issuers store). Now in the virtually impossible scenario of ALL stores opting
into this, such overwhelming unanimous support for this suggestion would only
defeat your arguments against it.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | enig | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 14:20 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
| |
1) most of the ones who asked are Americans
2) asking to issue some coupons to see if someone is willing to do so is one
thing, writing to someone personally asking to reduce their prices for you is
another thing. Agree?
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No, I do not. I am never offended, nor do I consider it indecent or inappropriate
for anyone to politely ask any seller for a coupon or discount.
| | If you can not understand what I mean by 1) and 2) then you need some help, but
unfortunately I am not qualified, nor have the patience to give it to you. I
am sorry. Not trying to be insultive (just the opposite) but I dont know how
else I can express myself here.
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I think you are the one who needs help here. Not trying to be insultive (just
the opposite). But I don't know how else to express it better.
| | | | | | If you eliminate the need to ask for a coupon and automate it (one coupon for
all stores), then yes you can be 100% sure that I, and majority of all buyers
will "bother" themselves and take advantage of that.
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I am NOT asking for "one coupon for all stores". Please do not misrepresent this
suggestion.
Thor
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How it would turn into "one coupon for all stores" was explained to you by just
about everyone participating in this thread.
|
And that explains why none of their arguments make sense. Because this suggestion
has NEVER been about having "one coupon for all stores". Some of those opposed
to this suggestion have attempted to distort it in this fashion. But anyone with
an objective mind will see that this suggestion has never asked for "one coupon
for all stores". This suggestion will only be used by those sellers who opt into
it. Their stores are the only places where such coupons can be used (along with
the issuers store). Now in the virtually impossible scenario of ALL stores opting
into this, such overwhelming unanimous support for this suggestion would only
defeat your arguments against it.
Thor
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No one is trying to misinterpret or distort your suggestion. We are just trying
to show you how distorted your own perspective is. Anyone with an objective mind
is able to see why, and I suggest you go get some (objective mind).
If you are saying that I am the one needing some help, let it be so. I am gonna
help myself and leave this "discussion". See you in another one.
P.S. Here we are again. How did a discussion about a suggestion morphed into
something... I dont even know into what. Into whatever this ("discussion") is.
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| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
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The seller's terms can state what competitor coupons they accept and any
conditions or limits the seller has in their settings.
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So I go to your store, and I have already made a decision to buy. Say your store
is the only store in whole BL that has what I need.
I then check your terms and see that you accept competitors coupons. Oooooosm.
I have no coupons(1) but I go ask a friend to issue me one so I can take advantage
of you.
I will be doing this every_single_time. How does this benefit you, or any other
seller for that matter?
(1) To come prepared, every now and then I ask my friends to send me some coupons
so I always have full range from x% to xx%
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This has already been asked and answered in this thread. I do NOT think the majority
of buyers would bother to go through the games you describe.
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What makes you think so?
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What makes you think they will?
But I will answer your question anyway. The same reason why the vast majority
of buyers don't use or ask for coupons. Buyers can usually get coupons from
most sellers if they simply asked. So why don't they bother doing so? Human
nature. They can't be bothered.
Thor
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And those buyers (who can't be bothered with coupons) aare precisely the
same people who wouldn't bother looking for a store that accepts competitor's
coupons. So you wouldn't gain their business. The people who would take advantage
of the updated coupon system are the savvy price-conscious buyers who would turn
the system to their advantage, costing you money.
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Marc.
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| In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
Why are they blue?
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
Thanks for the clip Andy. It accurately lampoons the opposition to this suggestion.
Thor
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And there you have it...
As you were nothing to see here.
It is clear you did not get it. It is the process. Coming to the discussion and
forcing your ideas on others. Conversation is about listening, understanding
what others are saying, valuing what they bring to the table, not just badgering
them into submission.
Watch it again and place yourself in the position of the lady who speaks first
- not the expert.
You have already admitted to not being an programmer. Since you are former lawyer
who has never proclaimed to have formal business or web commerce training
(that I recall) that places you in the amateur entrepreneur category like most
all the other BL shop owners.
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
Thanks for the clip Andy. It accurately lampoons the opposition to this suggestion.
Thor
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And there you have it...
As you were nothing to see here.
It is clear you did not get it. It is the process. Coming to the discussion and
forcing your ideas on others.
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"Forcing" my ideas on others? Just like you and Luke and Marc are doing? There's
that blind bias again.
BTW, would you care to respond to Randy's post destroying your lay argument
that this suggestion is too difficult for BrickLink to code? Or is he also "forcing"
his ideas on others?
Thor
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Again the lifetime of arguing is on show.
The forum is about listening, sharing and respecting others ideas and input.
The only person characterizing this as 'destroying' is you. I admitted
my limited knowledge.
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| In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
Well, I am a programmer who was many years ago very intimate with ASP- and SQL-Server-driven
websites. Knowing what is in place for the coupon system already on the front
end and back end, I truly believe that this system would not be that hard at
all to implement since many things are already available and other functionality
could easily be replicated. In fact, in my day, I probably could have this completed
in a few days maximum if I was familiar with the system. As Foster said earlier,
the difficulty of a problem from a non-programmer's point of view should
not be a deciding factor in whether a suggestion is a solid idea or not. Skilled
programmers can get almost anything done given the time and resources, so suggestions
should be implemented based on merit.
Cheers,
Randy
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| In Suggestions, randyf writes:
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
Well, I am a programmer who was many years ago very intimate with ASP- and SQL-Server-driven
websites. Knowing what is in place for the coupon system already on the front
end and back end, I truly believe that this system would not be that hard at
all to implement since many things are already available and other functionality
could easily be replicated. In fact, in my day, I probably could have this completed
in a few days maximum if I was familiar with the system. As Foster said earlier,
the difficulty of a problem from a non-programmer's point of view should
not be a deciding factor in whether a suggestion is a solid idea or not. Skilled
programmers can get almost anything done given the time and resources, so suggestions
should be implemented based on merit.
Cheers,
Randy
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This, I agree with. Even if something is extremely complex to implement (from
coding perspective), it should not be the reason to not do it. If it is a good
idea ofc.
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| In Suggestions, randyf writes:
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
Well, I am a programmer who was many years ago very intimate with ASP- and SQL-Server-driven
websites. Knowing what is in place for the coupon system already on the front
end and back end, I truly believe that this system would not be that hard at
all to implement since many things are already available and other functionality
could easily be replicated.
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in a few days maximum if I was familiar with the system.
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So 16-24 hours? Ok sounds reasonable.
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the difficulty of a problem from a non-programmer's point of view should
not be a deciding factor in whether a suggestion is a solid idea or not. Skilled
programmers can get almost anything done given the time and resources, so suggestions
should be implemented based on merit.
Cheers,
Randy
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Agree also. The question is "Does this suggestion -increase- money spent on BL
or just provide incentive on which store to choose?"
As much as users think the MOC shop is not great, it is a attempt to add functionality
and generate more sales for BL. This suggestion is more about steering sales
IMHO than increasing overall sales.
If I was allocating programmer time there are many needed fixes and more meritorious
suggestions.
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| In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
| | In Suggestions, randyf writes:
| | In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
Well, I am a programmer who was many years ago very intimate with ASP- and SQL-Server-driven
websites. Knowing what is in place for the coupon system already on the front
end and back end, I truly believe that this system would not be that hard at
all to implement since many things are already available and other functionality
could easily be replicated.
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in a few days maximum if I was familiar with the system.
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So 16-24 hours? Ok sounds reasonable.
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the difficulty of a problem from a non-programmer's point of view should
not be a deciding factor in whether a suggestion is a solid idea or not. Skilled
programmers can get almost anything done given the time and resources, so suggestions
should be implemented based on merit.
Cheers,
Randy
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Agree also. The question is "Does this suggestion -increase- money spent on BL
or just provide incentive on which store to choose?"
As much as users think the MOC shop is not great, it is a attempt to add functionality
and generate more sales for BL. This suggestion is more about steering sales
IMHO than increasing overall sales.
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And the exact same thing can be said about the current coupon system. It steers
orders to sellers who issue coupons and away from sellers who do not issue coupons.
That argument, however, is overly simplistic and just not true in the end. Businesses
and marketing professionals far more experienced and knowledgeable than us concluded
long ago that coupons are a successful marketing tool for increased business.
I see this in my own use of coupons as a buyer on BrickLink. Coupons issued to
me by BrickLink sellers have quite often made me (1) place orders I would not
have otherwise placed with ANY seller and (2) place LARGER orders for things
I would not have ordered elsewhere. So they obviously increases overall sales
for BrickLink. I doubt AdminDan would have implemented coupons in the first place
if he did not think it would increase sales or otherwise benefit BrickLink. I
am also sure many other buyers can also confirm they placed orders or larger
orders precisely because they had a coupon that made it more worthwhile for them.
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Of course there are. I have no problem with BrickLink taking care of them first.
I also think we should let BrickLink decide what their priorities may be. Votes
for or against a suggestion may certainly influence that; but not always. I wonder
if you also oppose other suggestions because they are not a top priority for
you or BrickLink. If priority is the issue, why not just leave it in the queue
and see what happens?
Thor
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | As a seller, I would like to have the option of honoring competitor coupons.
Please make it so that all coupons can be honored by any seller who opts into
accepting coupons issued by other sellers. Of course, the opt in should include
settings so the seller can define conditions and maximum percentage and dollar
limits to the coupons he/she will accept.
This happens in the real world. I see no reason why it can't also happen
here for those who want it. As a seller, just as in the real world, it may help
bring me more business if I can advertise that I will honor competitor coupons
(subject to certain conditions of course).
Thor
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After reading all the pros and cons and considering the idea, I have decided
to support this idea. At first I did not agree but after some thought, I can
see the validity of this. However I can also see some issues. So we will see
how it pans out.
Ken
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| I am completely against this, and think multiple things.
1. I fear the day that a general decrease of prices happen. IE people cutting
each other to try and sell more, at lower profit. This *could* help.
2. This is going to bring down every seller's profits. You have two options.
You either accept other coupons and loose the money of the coupon, or you don't
accept them and (or) loose the sale to someone else.
3. Renders the current coupons useless. At least for me, a coupon Is a reminder
from a store for me to check them out. As a seller, the coupon is not as much
as the value, but the 'publicity'. Won't work know. I would probably
stop using the stores that have me coupons so I could keep the coupons forever
and use them in other stores.
In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | As a seller, I would like to have the option of honoring competitor coupons.
Please make it so that all coupons can be honored by any seller who opts into
accepting coupons issued by other sellers. Of course, the opt in should include
settings so the seller can define conditions and maximum rpercentage and dollar
limits to the coupons he/she will accept.
This happens in the real world. I see no reason why it can't also happen
here for those who want it. As a seller, just as in the real world, it may help
bring me more business if I can advertise that I will honor competitor coupons
(subject to certain conditions of course).
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You do have to remember that BL's stores are not like real life companies.
We aren't multimillion companies that shift around thousands of dollars a
day. In that real life, this probably cut into 0.05% of the companies accepting
random coupons profit, but for BL stores in general, I could see it cutting a
10%.
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| In Suggestions, Brick_Top writes:
| | I am completely against this, and think multiple things.
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from a store for me to check them out. As a seller, the coupon is not as much
as the value, but the 'publicity'. Won't work know. I would probably
stop using the stores that have me coupons so I could keep the coupons forever
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Very good point with #3. Buyers will quickly learn that they get punished if
they use a coupon in the store that issued it (because it disappears). As a seller,
I don’t want to punish buyers for buying in my store, so I would stop issuing
coupons and just send messages that I will manually apply a discount.
The most common coupons would then be the "fake" ones created to test the maximum
discounts in stores that accept competitor coupons.
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Marc.
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| In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, Brick_Top writes:
| | I am completely against this, and think multiple things.
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| | 3. Renders the current coupons useless. At least for me, a coupon Is a reminder
from a store for me to check them out. As a seller, the coupon is not as much
as the value, but the 'publicity'. Won't work know. I would probably
stop using the stores that have me coupons so I could keep the coupons forever
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Very good point with #3. Buyers will quickly learn that they get punished if
they use a coupon in the store that issued it (because it disappears).
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Nonsense! Do buyers get "punished" because they use a coupon? The argument is
absurd. Buyers will get their discount whether they use it in the issuer's
store or a competitor's store. If the buyer gets the benefit of the coupon
SOMEWHERE, they are not "punished". On the contrary, this suggestion will give
buyers MORE benefits - not "punishment" because now they will be able to use
the same coupon in at least two or more places - the issuer's store AND a
competitor's store. If they decide not to use it in the issuer's store
so they can use it elsewhere, how is that "punishment" if the buyer decides it
is more beneficial to use that coupon elsewhere? It takes just ONE use of the
coupon for the buyer to get its benefit. Everything after that is an added bonus.
Thor
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, Brick_Top writes:
| | I am completely against this, and think multiple things.
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| | 3. Renders the current coupons useless. At least for me, a coupon Is a reminder
from a store for me to check them out. As a seller, the coupon is not as much
as the value, but the 'publicity'. Won't work know. I would probably
stop using the stores that have me coupons so I could keep the coupons forever
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Very good point with #3. Buyers will quickly learn that they get punished if
they use a coupon in the store that issued it (because it disappears).
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Nonsense! Do buyers get "punished" because they use a coupon?
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Yes. If using it causes the coupon to expire.
A buyer has a coupon. If they use it in store A, it disappears. If they use it
in any other store, it remains. Therefore, using it in store A is a punishment.
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Marc.
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| In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, Brick_Top writes:
| | I am completely against this, and think multiple things.
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| | 3. Renders the current coupons useless. At least for me, a coupon Is a reminder
from a store for me to check them out. As a seller, the coupon is not as much
as the value, but the 'publicity'. Won't work know. I would probably
stop using the stores that have me coupons so I could keep the coupons forever
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Very good point with #3. Buyers will quickly learn that they get punished if
they use a coupon in the store that issued it (because it disappears).
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Nonsense! Do buyers get "punished" because they use a coupon?
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Yes. If using it causes the coupon to expire.
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And by using it they get the benefit (i.e. discount), don't they? So how
exactly is giving the discount "punishment"?
| | A buyer has a coupon. If they use it in store A, it disappears. If they use it
in any other store, it remains. Therefore, using it in store A is a punishment.
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How is this different than what already exists under the present coupon system?
If DafsAFOL gives me a 5% off coupon and I use it in his store, it disappears.
So is DadsAFOL "punishing" me by using his coupon? Now suppose I use that coupon
in a competitor's store. I get a discount I would not have otherwise gotten,
AND I still have the coupon I can use with DadsAFOL or another competitor if
I want. It seems rather obvious that the buyer comes out way ahead here. Calling
this "punishment" is rather bizarre and distorted.
Thor
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | How is this different than what already exists under the present coupon system?
If DafsAFOL gives me a 5% off coupon and I use it in his store, it disappears.
So is DadsAFOL "punishing" me by using his coupon? Now suppose I use that coupon
in a competitor's store. I get a discount I would not have otherwise gotten,
AND I still have the coupon I can use with DadsAFOL or another competitor if
I want. It seems rather obvious that the buyer comes out way ahead here. Calling
this "punishment" is rather bizarre and distorted.
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While "punishment" is likely too harsh a word, in this setup it is disadvantageous
to use the coupon in the store it was issued.
If you get a 5% coupon, and it stays valid when used somewhere else, you basically
have a 5% off for all BL shops that accept it. As soon as you use it at the issuer
shop, your "5% off at all shops" disappears.
If anything, buyers might hold off on using the coupon at the issuer as long
as possible to keep the 5% at other shops alive.
Not really what the issuer would like to see, right?
Niek.
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| In Suggestions, qwertyboy writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | How is this different than what already exists under the present coupon system?
If DafsAFOL gives me a 5% off coupon and I use it in his store, it disappears.
So is DadsAFOL "punishing" me by using his coupon? Now suppose I use that coupon
in a competitor's store. I get a discount I would not have otherwise gotten,
AND I still have the coupon I can use with DadsAFOL or another competitor if
I want. It seems rather obvious that the buyer comes out way ahead here. Calling
this "punishment" is rather bizarre and distorted.
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While "punishment" is likely too harsh a word, in this setup it is disadvantageous
to use the coupon in the store it was issued.
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If they use it right away, it is no more advantageous or disadvantageous than
the current system where - right now - coupons cannot be used elsewhere anyway.
If they wait, they might be able to use it several times to get several discounts.
Which is a definite advantage to the buyer.
| | If you get a 5% coupon, and it stays valid when used somewhere else, you basically
have a 5% off for all BL shops that accept it. As soon as you use it at the issuer
shop, your "5% off at all shops" disappears.
If anything, buyers might hold off on using the coupon at the issuer as long
as possible to keep the 5% at other shops alive.
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This assumes the buyer has only one coupon from one seller. Right now, I have
over 20 coupons I can use. I suspect most buyers will have more than one coupon
as well.
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Of course the issuer does not want their coupon used elsewhere. That is a given.
But not a valid reason as far as their competitors and buyers are concerned.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 13:08 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, Brick_Top writes:
| | I am completely against this, and think multiple things.
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| | 3. Renders the current coupons useless. At least for me, a coupon Is a reminder
from a store for me to check them out. As a seller, the coupon is not as much
as the value, but the 'publicity'. Won't work know. I would probably
stop using the stores that have me coupons so I could keep the coupons forever
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Very good point with #3. Buyers will quickly learn that they get punished if
they use a coupon in the store that issued it (because it disappears).
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Nonsense! Do buyers get "punished" because they use a coupon?
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Yes. If using it causes the coupon to expire.
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And by using it they get the benefit (i.e. discount), don't they? So how
exactly is giving the discount "punishment"?
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Taking away the coupon is.
Let's say I give you $100. I tell you that you can use it to get $100 off
a Wal-Mart AND you get to keep the $100! Then you can spend it at Target AND
you get to keep the $100! AND you can spend it at Amazon AND you get the $100
back at the end of that purchase too!
But if you use it in my store, you don't get it back you can use it once
and then it is taken away.
Taking things away is punishment.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 13:33 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, Brick_Top writes:
| | I am completely against this, and think multiple things.
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| | 3. Renders the current coupons useless. At least for me, a coupon Is a reminder
from a store for me to check them out. As a seller, the coupon is not as much
as the value, but the 'publicity'. Won't work know. I would probably
stop using the stores that have me coupons so I could keep the coupons forever
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Very good point with #3. Buyers will quickly learn that they get punished if
they use a coupon in the store that issued it (because it disappears).
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Nonsense! Do buyers get "punished" because they use a coupon?
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Yes. If using it causes the coupon to expire.
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And by using it they get the benefit (i.e. discount), don't they? So how
exactly is giving the discount "punishment"?
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Taking away the coupon is.
Let's say I give you $100. I tell you that you can use it to get $100 off
a Wal-Mart AND you get to keep the $100! Then you can spend it at Target AND
you get to keep the $100! AND you can spend it at Amazon AND you get the $100
back at the end of that purchase too!
But if you use it in my store, you don't get it back you can use it once
and then it is taken away.
Taking things away is punishment.
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Except that nothing has been taken away under your above examples. Using the
coupon in your store got the buyer exactly what he wanted. Using your logic,
under the current system of coupons here on BrickLink, any time a buyer redeems
a coupon they are being "punished" because that using that coupon takes it away
from them. Never mind the fact that using the coupon gives them the exact discount
(i.e. benefit) noted in the coupon.
Thor
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 13:37 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, Brick_Top writes:
| | I am completely against this, and think multiple things.
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| | 3. Renders the current coupons useless. At least for me, a coupon Is a reminder
from a store for me to check them out. As a seller, the coupon is not as much
as the value, but the 'publicity'. Won't work know. I would probably
stop using the stores that have me coupons so I could keep the coupons forever
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Very good point with #3. Buyers will quickly learn that they get punished if
they use a coupon in the store that issued it (because it disappears).
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Nonsense! Do buyers get "punished" because they use a coupon?
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Yes. If using it causes the coupon to expire.
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And by using it they get the benefit (i.e. discount), don't they? So how
exactly is giving the discount "punishment"?
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Taking away the coupon is.
Let's say I give you $100. I tell you that you can use it to get $100 off
a Wal-Mart AND you get to keep the $100! Then you can spend it at Target AND
you get to keep the $100! AND you can spend it at Amazon AND you get the $100
back at the end of that purchase too!
But if you use it in my store, you don't get it back you can use it once
and then it is taken away.
Taking things away is punishment.
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Except that nothing has been taken away under your above examples.
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... what?
Reread it. Clearly you missed something.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 13:54 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
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... what?
Reread it. Clearly you missed something.
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I missed nothing. You did. You are attempting to argue an illogical absurdity.
Who is harmed by this suggestion?
Not buyers. They get the opportunity to use one coupon multiple times in multiple
stores. AND they can still use it in the store that issued it to them. To say
buyers are "punished" because they use a coupon that gives them a discount is
an absurd stretch of reality.
Not BrickLink. Coupons are a long proven marketing tool to bring in more business
(i.e. orders). While some coupons are used by those who would buy anyway, many
are not. If coupons were used only or predominantly by those who would use them
anyway, no coupons would exist in the real world. Businesses far more experienced
and knowledgeable than ours have concluded that coupons work to bring in more
business.
Not sellers who opt into accepting competitor coupons. Because now they will
receive orders they would not otherwise receive. And again, while some may be
used by buyers who will place orders anyway, many will be used by buyers who
would not have placed their order without the coupon. Just like things now work
under the current BL coupon system and in the real world of business and coupons.
Sellers who issue these coupons? Maybe, maybe not. Using the coupon at a competitor's
shop does NOT mean it won't be used at the issuer's shop. Unless it is
being used to purchase the exact same items at a competitor's shop. In many
cases, these coupons will be used BOTH at the issuer's shop and at one or
more competitor's shops.
Sounds like a win-win-win-maybe situation to me.
Thor
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| | | | | | | Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 10:09 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Brick_Top writes:
| | I am completely against this, and think multiple things.
1. I fear the day that a general decrease of prices happen. IE people cutting
each other to try and sell more, at lower profit. This *could* help.
2. This is going to bring down every seller's profits. You have two options.
You either accept other coupons and loose the money of the coupon, or you don't
accept them and (or) loose the sale to someone else.
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These same two arguments were made when coupons were first proposed on BrickLink.
The fears expressed in them have NOT materialized. That is all they were - unfounded
fears that never became reality. Those fears have no more validity with this
suggestion than they did with the initial suggestion to have coupons on BrickLink.
| | 3. Renders the current coupons useless.
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Nonsense! Coupons can still be used. In fact, now they will be worth even more
because they can be used in multiple places and give buyers multiple discounts.
| | At least for me, a coupon Is a reminder
from a store for me to check them out. As a seller, the coupon is not as much
as the value, but the 'publicity'. Won't work know.
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Of course it will. Your coupon still exists. It has your shop name on it. You
still get the publicity. You just don't get the monopoly on it. The buyer
has even more choices than before. And can now get multiple rewards from the
same coupon.
| | I would probably
stop using the stores that have me coupons so I could keep the coupons forever
and use them in other stores.
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So would I - *IF* doing so could save me more money as a buyer than using the
coupon in the issuer's store. That is good for buyers - and for seller's
who opt to accept competitor coupons. But at some point after using the coupon
in a competitor's shop and just before the coupon expired, I and many other
buyers would probably use it in the issuer's shop (assuming we would have
used it there in the first place - a lot of coupons currently expire without
being used).
Thor
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| | | | | Author: | eileenkeeney | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 13:43 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | As a seller, I would like to have the option of honoring competitor coupons.
Please make it so that all coupons can be honored by any seller who opts into
accepting coupons issued by other sellers. Of course, the opt in should include
settings so the seller can define conditions and maximum percentage and dollar
limits to the coupons he/she will accept.
This happens in the real world. I see no reason why it can't also happen
here for those who want it. As a seller, just as in the real world, it may help
bring me more business if I can advertise that I will honor competitor coupons
(subject to certain conditions of course).
Thor
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No reason not to do this.
A seller could list something like this in their terms, but automating it would
be even better.
Of course it needs the ability to define parameters. It is too easy for sellers
to partner up and issue each other coupons, so as to take advantage of this.
But since it would be the seller's choice, and the seller's risk, I see
no reason to not implement the functionality.
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| | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Apr 12, 2014 14:47 | | Subject: | Re: Option to Honor Competitor Coupons | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, eileenkeeney writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | As a seller, I would like to have the option of honoring competitor coupons.
Please make it so that all coupons can be honored by any seller who opts into
accepting coupons issued by other sellers. Of course, the opt in should include
settings so the seller can define conditions and maximum percentage and dollar
limits to the coupons he/she will accept.
This happens in the real world. I see no reason why it can't also happen
here for those who want it. As a seller, just as in the real world, it may help
bring me more business if I can advertise that I will honor competitor coupons
(subject to certain conditions of course).
Thor
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No reason not to do this.
A seller could list something like this in their terms, but automating it would
be even better.
Of course it needs the ability to define parameters. It is too easy for sellers
to partner up and issue each other coupons, so as to take advantage of this.
But since it would be the seller's choice, and the seller's risk, I see
no reason to not implement the functionality.
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I agree completely with your thoughts, Eileen.
Cheers,
Randy
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