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| | | Author: | BLUSER_210488  | | Posted: | Apr 25, 2013 16:53 | | Subject: | Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 235 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| I did not see this in the list already.
Please give us the ability to edit our own forum posts.
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| | | | | Author: | Timothy_Smith | | Posted: | Apr 25, 2013 16:54 | | Subject: | Re: Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, walstib writes:
| | I did not see this in the list already.
Please give us the ability to edit our own forum posts.
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The reason there isn't an Edit function is because there's a Preview function.
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| | | | | | | Author: | BLUSER_210488 | | Posted: | Apr 25, 2013 17:26 | | Subject: | Re: Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Timothy_Smith writes:
| | In Suggestions, walstib writes:
| | I did not see this in the list already.
Please give us the ability to edit our own forum posts.
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The reason there isn't an Edit function is because there's a Preview function.
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When you are medium dyslexic like me, you can preview a post 5 times and not
see the error.
I am thankful no one has to see my handwriting.
I understand your point, but it does not cover all situations. 
Joe
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Timothy_Smith | | Posted: | Apr 25, 2013 17:28 | | Subject: | Re: Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, walstib writes:
| | In Suggestions, Timothy_Smith writes:
| | In Suggestions, walstib writes:
| | I did not see this in the list already.
Please give us the ability to edit our own forum posts.
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The reason there isn't an Edit function is because there's a Preview function.
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When you are medium dyslexic like me, you can preview a post 5 times and not
see the error.
I am thankful no one has to see my handwriting.
I understand your point, but it does not cover all situations.
Joe
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I'm just saying, that's the reason. It has been discussed in the past.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | BLUSER_210488 | | Posted: | Apr 25, 2013 17:56 | | Subject: | Re: Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | In Suggestions, Timothy_Smith writes:
I'm just saying, that's the reason. It has been discussed in the past.
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Well I'm looking at that reason closer.
I see the same words I have wrote in the text box on the preview screen.
Therefore it makes no sense to me.
The reasoning for a preview screen to check formatting, images, macros and links
I can understand.
I did not specify that these were not my main concern in the suggestion and the
basic text is but to me they can easily be included as reasons for mistakes can
happen there as well.
The main reason I see for doing it is that people are not perfect.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Timothy_Smith | | Posted: | Apr 25, 2013 18:15 | | Subject: | Re: Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, walstib writes:
| | | | In Suggestions, Timothy_Smith writes:
I'm just saying, that's the reason. It has been discussed in the past.
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Well I'm looking at that reason closer.
I see the same words I have wrote in the text box on the preview screen.
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And you'll see those same words in an Edit box. Yes?
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Therefore it makes no sense to me.
The reasoning for a preview screen to check formatting, images, macros and links
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Also spelling, grammar, content, and generally making sense.
| | I did not specify that these were not my main concern in the suggestion
The main reason I see for doing it is that people are not perfect.
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That's why there's a Preview feature.
You can review your post- looking just as it will when you post it.
View it as long as you want, revise it as many times as you want.
When you are satisfied with your own level of perfection or revision, click Post.
That's the same thing you would do with an Edit feature.
Exactly the same at your end. All that's different is whether other people see
your changes.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | BLUSER_210488 | | Posted: | Apr 25, 2013 18:39 | | Subject: | Re: Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Timothy_Smith writes:
| | And you'll see those same words in an Edit box. Yes?
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I guess my point about dyslexia flew right by you. It's ok if you don't understand,
I can't see someone without the issue really getting it.
| | Also spelling, grammar, content, and generally making sense.
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See above point
| | That's why there's a Preview feature.
You can review your post- looking just as it will when you post it.
View it as long as you want, revise it as many times as you want.
When you are satisfied with your own level of perfection or revision, click Post.
That's the same thing you would do with an Edit feature.
Exactly the same at your end. All that's different is whether other people see
your changes.
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See above point.
See brother I do all that, 4 times or more, and I still mess up every 4th post
or so. I did not come into this suggestion blind and considered in basic form
all the points you have made before I posted the suggestion.
So there may be few people like me and I am in the minority, I still would like
this for simple honest reasons.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | flyingo330 | | Posted: | Jun 12, 2013 10:57 | | Subject: | Re: Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| How about a spell check function ? One that can detect word repetition.
In Suggestions, walstib writes:
| | In Suggestions, Timothy_Smith writes:
| | And you'll see those same words in an Edit box. Yes?
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I guess my point about dyslexia flew right by you. It's ok if you don't understand,
I can't see someone without the issue really getting it.
| | Also spelling, grammar, content, and generally making sense.
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See above point
| | That's why there's a Preview feature.
You can review your post- looking just as it will when you post it.
View it as long as you want, revise it as many times as you want.
When you are satisfied with your own level of perfection or revision, click Post.
That's the same thing you would do with an Edit feature.
Exactly the same at your end. All that's different is whether other people see
your changes.
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See above point.
See brother I do all that, 4 times or more, and I still mess up every 4th post
or so. I did not come into this suggestion blind and considered in basic form
all the points you have made before I posted the suggestion.
So there may be few people like me and I am in the minority, I still would like
this for simple honest reasons.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | BLUSER_256731 | | Posted: | Apr 25, 2013 19:29 | | Subject: | Re: Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, walstib writes:
| | In Suggestions, Timothy_Smith writes:
| | In Suggestions, walstib writes:
| | I did not see this in the list already.
Please give us the ability to edit our own forum posts.
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The reason there isn't an Edit function is because there's a Preview function.
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When you are medium dyslexic like me, you can preview a post 5 times and not
see the error.
I am thankful no one has to see my handwriting.
I understand your point, but it does not cover all situations.
Joe
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Tell me about it. I barely manage to post anything without there being some
petty typos in there, preview or not; some being quite irritating.
But then it’s a message forum so spontaneity generally counts for more than typographical
precision. If there was an edit button I would be forever tempted to go back
and correct my posts when in truth it’s far better to just move on.
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| | | | | Author: | United.Bricks | | Posted: | Apr 25, 2013 16:54 | | Subject: | Re: Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, walstib writes:
| | I did not see this in the list already.
Please give us the ability to edit our own forum posts.
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Agreed, this would be very helpful!
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| | | | | Author: | Brickwilbo | | Posted: | Apr 25, 2013 16:58 | | Subject: | Re: Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, walstib writes:
| | I did not see this in the list already.
Please give us the ability to edit our own forum posts.
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Then we can change all our old serious posts and make them funny.
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| | | | | Author: | Kevin.NXT | | Posted: | Apr 25, 2013 17:14 | | Subject: | Re: Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, walstib writes:
| | I did not see this in the list already.
Please give us the ability to edit our own forum posts.
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The issue would probably be that someone can write something bad, and then later
edit out the evidence.
An edit function for only 5 minutes would be better, but I fear that may be too
whizzy bang of a feature.
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| | | | | | | Author: | BLUSER_210488 | | Posted: | Apr 25, 2013 18:02 | | Subject: | Re: Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Kevin.NXT writes:
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The issue would probably be that someone can write something bad, and then later
edit out the evidence.
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I hear you Kevin.
I guess I have the belief that most people are honest and truthful and the people
who would abuse it are so few it does not outweigh the benefits to the honest
folk.
That and in threads where this situation would most likely occur the original
will post will be quoted quite soon and in evidence. Be like shooting yourself
in the foot to try and change it then.
It is for the vast majority of mundane things that it is useful for. I am not
going to stop eating apples because I may one day find a worm.
Joe
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| | | | | Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Apr 25, 2013 17:44 | | Subject: | Re: Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, walstib writes:
| | I did not see this in the list already.
Please give us the ability to edit our own forum posts.
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voted no, stand by what you say on the forum, post again if your opinion changes
or you want to rephrase (which is OK, that's why it's a forum, if no opinions
changed it would have no purpose). I know other forums have this but I personally
don't like it, it makes it very difficult to follow if the OP changes to the
opposite opinion half way through the thread.
Robert
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| | | | | | | Author: | BLUSER_210488 | | Posted: | Apr 25, 2013 18:10 | | Subject: | Re: Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | voted no, stand by what you say on the forum, post again if your opinion changes
or you want to rephrase (which is OK, that's why it's a forum, if no opinions
changed it would have no purpose). I know other forums have this but I personally
don't like it, it makes it very difficult to follow if the OP changes to the
opposite opinion half way through the thread.
Robert
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I was a moderator on a huge and controversial message board. I gave it up because
it was too stressful. Just saying because I have experience from both sides
and know the point you make has merit.
I just don't see this mellow place with the occasional flare up to be in the
same league.
The community is so small, I had like 80 people read my last sale post, it is
self correcting on it's own. Plus it's most often the same 12 people arguing
about the same things. I can't remember the last time I saw a thread closed
down here.
Joe
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| | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Apr 25, 2013 18:12 | | Subject: | Re: Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, walstib writes:
| | I did not see this in the list already.
Please give us the ability to edit our own forum posts.
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Not a really good idea and it will never happen as many of the posts lready gave
good reason. There are more problems with your idea. When people reply, your
post is repeated unless they take it out. So you may fix your post, but it will
remain in its original form on other posts. Also, no one here makes fun of people
because of spelling errors or grammar mistakes. That has been frowned upon ever
sense I joined this little madhouse.
Another reason is that when something dumb is said (of which I have my share
over the years), someone could respond and then you change your post and make
them look rather fooliah. A final reason is when people say things they shouldn't
and get banned, the reason for banning someone could disappear as the admins
usually do not comment before or after they axe someone, for example....lets
say Foster/Thor.
A finally note, if you really want to mess with someone, you can change their
original post in your post and really make the most cogent, sane post look ridiculous.
That can be lots and lots of fun.
John P
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| | | | | | | Author: | eileenkeeney | | Posted: | Apr 25, 2013 18:27 | | Subject: | Re: Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | In Suggestions, walstib writes:
| | I did not see this in the list already.
Please give us the ability to edit our own forum posts.
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Not a really good idea and it will never happen as many of the posts lready gave
good reason. There are more problems with your idea. When people reply, your
post is repeated unless they take it out. So you may fix your post, but it will
remain in its original form on other posts. Also, no one here makes fun of people
because of spelling errors or grammar mistakes. That has been frowned upon ever
sense I joined this little madhouse.
Another reason is that when something dumb is said (of which I have my share
over the years), someone could respond and then you change your post and make
them look rather fooliah. A final reason is when people say things they shouldn't
and get banned, the reason for banning someone could disappear as the admins
usually do not comment before or after they axe someone, for example....lets
say Foster/Thor.
A finally note, if you really want to mess with someone, you can change their
original post in your post and really make the most cogent, sane post look ridiculous.
That can be lots and lots of fun.
John P
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It should allow edits for some time frame.
Often I post, and then realize it needs a slight change.
Most other forums allow post editing.
Of course, if already quoted, one can not change where they are quoted. But
one has no control over being mis-quoted either (when the post is chopped up
as quoted, sometimes assigning the quote to the wrong person).
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | BLUSER_210488 | | Posted: | Apr 25, 2013 18:41 | | Subject: | Re: Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, eileenkeeney writes:
| | It should allow edits for some time frame.
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I would take that if nothing else.
Or a small note that says "this post has been edited" to ease some people's concerns.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Miro78 | | Posted: | Apr 25, 2013 18:51 | | Subject: | Re: Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, walstib writes:
| | In Suggestions, eileenkeeney writes:
| | It should allow edits for some time frame.
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I would take that if nothing else.
Or a small note that says "this post has been edited" to ease some people's concerns.
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Perhaps allow edits only up until the point when someone replies to your post,
then it gets locked out for editing. This would bypass the issues mentioned by
others in this thread. This would give you some time to see your post and edid,
however in certain high profile topics, your time would be limited to about a
minute at best.
Miro
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | BLUSER_210488 | | Posted: | Apr 25, 2013 19:30 | | Subject: | Re: Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Miro78 writes:
| | Perhaps allow edits only up until the point when someone replies to your post,
then it gets locked out for editing. This would bypass the issues mentioned by
others in this thread. This would give you some time to see your post and edid,
however in certain high profile topics, your time would be limited to about a
minute at best.
Miro
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Certainly another way that has merit but to me it seems like it would be more
work that it's worth. The forum I moderated had 20 times or more the volume
and intensity of Bricklink and you could edit posts for a few hours. I never
once saw anyone try and abuse this but that is just my experience. Once or twice
there was some confusion that was quickly resolved by the posters themselves
being honest.
Presently I can delete my post and say something else. All I am really asking
for is the ability to edit the post instead of deleting the whole thing and posting
again.
Joe
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | eileenkeeney | | Posted: | Apr 25, 2013 23:10 | | Subject: | Re: Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, walstib writes:
| | In Suggestions, eileenkeeney writes:
| | It should allow edits for some time frame.
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I would take that if nothing else.
Or a small note that says "this post has been edited" to ease some people's concerns.
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The forum software, that many sites use, does indicate the time the post was
edited, and allows edits for some time frame (which varies from site to site).
But everything is captured somewhere, so there is still a risk of someone digging
up the archives, and then quoting the original version of your post, 30 years
from now, when you are running for office.
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| | | | | | | Author: | BLUSER_210488 | | Posted: | Apr 25, 2013 19:21 | | Subject: | Re: Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | Not a really good idea and it will never happen as many of the posts lready gave
good reason.
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Well I think my reasons are good too. chacun son goût
| | There are more problems with your idea. When people reply, your
post is repeated unless they take it out. So you may fix your post, but it will
remain in its original form on other posts.
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That's OK with me. The vast majority of time I would use it there have been
no replies and it's not in a "serious" discussion. As I said in another reply
that in itself would correct what I am hearing as concerns most of the time.
| | Also, no one here makes fun of people
because of spelling errors or grammar mistakes. That has been frowned upon ever
sense I joined this little madhouse.
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I have not seen your point moderated that I can think of. Sure I have only been
here a few years but it seems more that you find people arguing that it's OK
to pick on people as being mean makes no difference here because it's just a
forum.
I think this thread speaks to that..
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=719176
| | Another reason is that when something dumb is said (of which I have my share
over the years), someone could respond and then you change your post and make
them look rather fooliah.
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So add an "this post has been edited" highlight. The percentage of people on
here out to make others look foolish is so very small and I trust other readers
that are following are intelligent enough to see through games like this and
call them on it.
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and get banned, the reason for banning someone could disappear as the admins
usually do not comment before or after they axe someone, for example....lets
say Foster/Thor.
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So change the database to keep deleted posts for a while. Evidence is kept and
the self regulating community reports. No insurmountable problems that I have
seen so far.
| | A finally note, if you really want to mess with someone, you can change their
original post in your post and really make the most cogent, sane post look ridiculous.
That can be lots and lots of fun.
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You can do that now if I understood you correctly.
I can delete my whole post now without any trouble and post something different.
Does that in itself not raise most of these same concerns?
Joe
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Apr 25, 2013 21:14 | | Subject: | Re: Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, walstib writes:
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because of spelling errors or grammar mistakes. That has been frowned upon ever
sense I joined this little madhouse.
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I have not seen your point moderated that I can think of. Sure I have only been
here a few years but it seems more that you find people arguing that it's OK
to pick on people as being mean makes no difference here because it's just a
forum.
I think this thread speaks to that..
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=719176
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Being mean is different from telling someone they did something wrong or stupid.
I actually have not seen that terrible "meanness" here all that often. Even so,
so what? One person's meanness is another s constructive criticism... Unless
we want to tell people how to speak and write.
John P
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | BLUSER_210488 | | Posted: | Apr 25, 2013 23:16 | | Subject: | Re: Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | Being mean is different from telling someone they did something wrong or stupid.
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I respect that is your perspective. I even agree that when done in gentleness
and kindness it can be very instructive when both parties are looking to share
in this way.
If there is not a mutual understanding between parties ahead of time I am not
sure it always holds true the same way.
Go into the local watering hole, find the biggest guy looking for a fight, tell
him he just did something stupid and see if they figure it matters if you were
intentionally being mean or trying to be constructive.
I respect that there are sensitive people to whom these things do matter and
are affected emotionally. A philosophical conversation about the rationality
of this does no good if that is the reality for the person now. I would rather
try and speak as if to the most sensitive person in the audience than try and
teach everyone a lesson in how tough they should be. Yet I do fail at times,
no doubt.
| | I actually have not seen that terrible "meanness" here all that often.
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I agree when taking it to a terrible level. This backs up my point that it is
a small minority who like to stir the pot and would possibly abuse an edit function.
Some people actually think that stirring the pot, taking opposite sides they
may not believe in just to see what will happen is mean in itself on a forum.
Playing with people's emotions for one's own enjoyment kind of a thing.
| | "Even so, so what? One person's meanness is another s constructive criticism...
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Forgive me for being a bit redundant. The thing here that seems to me keeps
getting glossed over is that intention means little to a person who has been
hurt emotionally. (following sentences just use the word hurt as a metaphor
for emotional pain) You may believe it is silly or irrational for someone to
feel hurt. That does not change the reality that someone is hurt.
| | Unless we want to tell people how to speak and write.
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It's OK though to tell them how they feel/acted is stupid but not OK to tell
them they what to say or write. This circle is getting confusing for me, I must
have missed something as it seems like the same thing at a base level to me.
"What you said was stupid but I can't tell you what you should have said"
Joe
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Kevin.NXT | | Posted: | Apr 25, 2013 22:44 | | Subject: | Re: Edit forum posts | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, walstib writes:
| | So change the database to keep deleted posts for a while. Evidence is kept and
the self regulating community reports. No insurmountable problems that I have
seen so far.
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Change the database so everything is kept forever would be a bit better.
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