Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - ToriHada (8887)  | [...] Not necessarily. [...] Exactly, many of these orders are not cancelled and the data remains in the Price Guide. [...] Your second sentence does not follow from [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 28, 2015, to Suggestions) |
Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - AntsScurrying (697) | Have you ever thought about doing something useful with your time? Maybe volunteering somewhere that actually needs your help. Your posts only purpose if to create negativity, [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 28, 2015, to Suggestions) |
Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - BLUSER_27068 (96) | [...] Are you serious? "members from appointing themselves as police, prosecutor, judge, jury and executioner" This is the pot calling the kettle black. (should have [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 28, 2015, to Suggestions) |
Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - j7r7o7c7k7 (135) | [...] Anyone who places a order with 100% no intent to pay and it is provin should be banned. They are just as bad as the people they are calling a "scam" when they do turn [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - Pher (2770) | [...] Bla, bla, long story but: You already get a NPB for not paying, if the seller and bricklink decide so. Don't you? And you have one week to pay if you place an order, [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - George_Lucy (17450) | All of this could be avoided if BL would just be a little more proactive. in the process of new stores opening. eBay has limits on both the amount you can list and the value [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - ToriHada (8887) | [...] No. [...] No. [...] Your question does not reflect the reality of BrickLink orders and assumes things which are not true. [...] Not at all. I have sued and collected [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - legoman77 (3628) | [...] But would not a contract require signatures? Since BL is not in the US would person bringing suit have to take it to the world court? Are contracts made on the internet [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - SylvainLS (46) | [...] Yep, before, when you couldn’t remember, you’d say “a great (or wise) man said.” Nowadays, everything profund ever said is attributed to Albert Einstein.
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - ToriHada (8887) | [...] Did you actually read the entire post and thread before latching on to this one part? Because if you did you might realize I was talking in the context of someone who [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - BLUSER_27068 (96) | [...] [...] Huh? Please excuse me for being dense but...... ......exactly how does (at worst) not paying for a Lego order "risk your home and family's well-being"? [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - SylvainLS (46) | [...] Just a coincidence¹: I’m right now watching Hang’Em High on the French TV :D ¹ or maybe not: there are a lot of vigilante or at least vengeance movies, so that one is [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - bb316892 (195) | Truthfully, the thing that sticks out to me is purposely placing an order without planning on paying for it. I have only been selling a short time but if anyone buys all of [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - Geniac (709) | Caveat Emptor As a fairly new member of BrickLink, I would like to chime in on this debate. Even as a newbie, I check the feedback of sellers before I order. If something [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - ToriHada (8887) | [...] [...] Completely buying out a new seller's inventory you never intend to pay for so the new seller cannot receive any other orders is not mere "testing a store". [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - ToriHada (8887) | [...] Some? By submitting an order you are obligated to buy everything in that order. Of course, you can ask the seller to cancel or revise the order. But the seller does not [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - legoman77 (3628) | [...] That is precisely why I do not think that this is an easy discussion. There is good and bad in testing a store. I find that self policing can work at times. Often [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - ToriHada (8887) | [...] This brings up the slippery slope problem. If BrickLink allows vigilante orders against new sellers who are BELIEVED to be scammers, how much further will the vigilantes [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - ToriHada (8887) | [...] [...] I completely agree. But I don't agree that vigilante orders are any part of the solution. Vigilantism only adds to the problem. [...] No, it is not the same [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - Captain_Q (7863) | [...] I am the person in question. And if the items were legitimate I would have definitely bought some of them since the prices were absurdly good. I would have requested [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - Proprietor (1698) | [...] The price guide gets messed up regardless. Does anyone really believe 2 new UCS Falcons were sold in March for US$700? Or even the 1 for $1,000? (URL) Not a chance, [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - prairie (16) | [...] It'd only be fair to hold the buyer to their commitment, or if they made a knowingly fraudulent offer to buy everything, show them the door just as they wanted done [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - legoman77 (3628) | This is a hard one to decide on. OP lists some good points and you list some good points. While BL often takes quick action at other times they do not. The are sellers still [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - calebfishn (2141) | I understand your reasoning. But the solution is unnecessary and unworkable. I do not necessarily condone what you refer to as "vigilante orders", but Bricklink should be focussed [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - Captain_Q (7863) | [...] Yes, you make some valid points I agree that my action was not necessarily the best choice to take. But I saw what I perceived as a live grenade with it's pinned [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - Reki_Lobsheek (2464) | I get the sentiment of your statement, but all in all, how is Bricklink to decide which order fits the definition of a "vigilante" order? Reki
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - tEoS (5297) | Reporting to the administration is our only option for removing scammers and that is how it should be, until they come up with some solution to this issue. No one individual [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - Deepwoods (3698) | This entire episode seems a little absurd... it's already in the terms about following through with your orders, isn't it? (saving exactly what is a "binding contract" [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - enig (6336) | [...] Taking action does not necessarily mean making any difference. You can take action by doing what people in the picture are doing - speaking up (reporting to HD). [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - qwertyboy (7861) | Very dramatic picture, but entirely inappropriate for this discussion. There are other ways of taking action, like informing BL of a suspect shop. In fact, the people that you [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - ToriHada (8887) | [...] Part of this suggestion is to impose real consequences to these vigilante orders even if the seller's store is suspended by BrickLink. [...] Agreed. Especially [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - qwertyboy (7861) | [...] You are correct, this is already prohibited. However, there are no real consequences to doing the vigilante thing (aside from the possible NPB, law suit etc). [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - ToriHada (8887) | [...] Is this already prohibited? From reading the other related thread, there are some who are arguing that this is not actually prohibited. Their argument seems to be that [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - Biglesdug (2522) | Oh god... Was this really a necessary thread? This isn't something that bricklink told us to do. So what is the point of making a suggestion to prohibit something that is [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Re: Prohibit Vigilante Orders - ToriHada (8887) | [...] Really? They don't mess up the price guide? What about BEFORE the order is canceled? You state above that "the price guide resets AFTER an order is cancelled". So, [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
| Prohibit Vigilante Orders - ToriHada (8887) | BrickLink should prohibit vigilante orders like the one noted in this thread: (URL) Vigilante orders are bogus orders members place with a store they believe to be a scammer [...]
(106 months ago, Aug 27, 2015, to Suggestions) |
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