Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | If_you_build_it  | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 09:57 | | Subject: | Re: Direct links to items for sale. | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| Of course it can handle .txt files. That link is downloading .xml files though.
This is the error I receive in Safari when I try to open the file:
This page contains the following errors:
error on line 1 at column 1: Document is empty
Below is a rendering of the page up to the first error.
In Suggestions, therobo writes:
| | In Suggestions, If_you_build_it writes:
| | Hmmm... I have a Mac. When I click on the links it creates a download, but
when I open the download, it says the document is blank.
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Maybe your Mac can not handle .txt files?
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In Suggestions, therobo writes:
| | In Suggestions, If_you_build_it writes:
| | Also the Category ID and Item Type lists are coming up empty for me
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Works fine here.
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In Suggestions, If_you_build_it writes:
| | The one ting I didn't see there, is there a way to show all custom items?
In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, ebrouwer writes:
| | I would love to be able to drive sales through my Brick Link store by posting
ads on my blog. It would be great if the ad could show the picture of my item,
and the price. If the visitor clicks the ad, it takes them directly to the page
where they can buy this item. This would be fantastic for sellers and buyers
alike.
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Well documented in the Help files:
http://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=59
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Marc.
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| Author: | enig | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 09:39 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // Advice of PP-fee-less operate | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, RobErNat writes:
| | In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | Ultimately, I would favor 0 fees policy. No fees of any kind, with only basic
shipping tables allowed. Would make it much easier for buyers, and improve the
reputation of BrickLink a lot.
That, or an adapted price guide where buyers would see prices depending on their
+ seller's settings (if sellers charge PP, the fee is dynamically calculated
into the price depending on buyer's location).
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Lucas, what is going to happen when BL implements autocheckout with autopayment
(march I believe). Do you really think they are going to create 5 different predetermined
boxes for extra fees that the seller can use to set fees? Doubtfull... Sellers
will need to predetermine their costs, add it in shipping and handling, period.
Buyers are getting used to the checkout and 'pay right away' method,
most sites work like that (Amazon, Ebay, to name a few), over and done with.
What a buyer wants, is to see full costs in advance (and I can tell from the
competition site), decides wether or not it is his budget, checks out and pays
and is done with it. That's the way it goes on the net.
Sellers who adopt to this method will have the advantage over those who don't,
sellers who charge (or add them in their shipping and handling) high fees will
be disadvantaged compared to their neighbour seller who doesn't, because
the buyers will have 2, 3 or more carts and they'll choose the seller
with the best overall deal. Pure and simple. What needs to change on BL is that
'inconsistancy' between sellers from all over the world and also the
mentality(*)of many sellers, particulary in the EU...
BO's owner understood, and his methods for building BO where with that idea.
You know what? It works 
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It would be a long talk if we were to start comparing BL vs BO 
If BL will implement the auto check-out system THE RIGHT WAY, where the
cost of shipping will be determined by each seller's personal settings (which
depend on his country's post office size / weight / thickness requirements),
then adding a feature to auto-calculate payment/lot fees will be a piece of cake
Judging from what we have seen so far, I do not even dare to tell you what I
think are the chances of that happening.
I am worried about it. I just dont see how in the world it is possible for BL
to get it right, if they continue doing everything the same way as up until now.
I.E. - implementing ideas of someone who has no clue what they are doing, and
with total disregard to consequences. Treating BL like a sandbox.
The new "update" to the design for example. No one cares, no one is responsible
for the screw-up, and no one is listening to what experienced buyers and sellers
have to say.
Has someone been lucky enough to meet the staff at one of the events (in US?).
Good for you. I dont want to turn this into yet one more US-EU heat, but more
"US thinking" is not what BL needs today.
Now if to get back to the topic... yes, sellers will have to adapt to whatever
BL decides to do. But what can tell you is that I am opening a store at BO in
the nearest future, and it is solely because of what has/has not been done to
BL in the recent past.
Have someone asked me a year ago, I would have challenged their sanity if they
told me that I will be opening a store at BO.
| | (*)signification:
Dear customers, it is a priveledge for you that you where able to visit my store
and fill your cart and checkout, however, just for doing so, I will charge you
PP fees, because I the seller, will not cover those for you, the heck I will
not and as a buyer you need to be reasonable and simply accept that fact, as
PP is not cheap (whining) and I want to make more money...
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| Author: | therobo | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 09:33 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, RobErNat writes:
Hi Eric,
as you have pointed out, each EU country has to implement it in national law(s)
and/or regulations.
Can you please elaborate which countries already have implemented this EU rule
from 2011?
EU directives are not binding for any individual, they are only binding for the
28 member states. So your post is somehow theoretical and academic.
As for BrickLink enforcing these national laws, do you expect BrickLink to hire
lawyers in each of the 28 EU member states to examine the national laws and then
checking payment terms of 8794 EU BrickLink stores?
BrickLink acts only as a venue and is not involved in transactions.
Check #3 of the TOS:
http://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1919
Upon registration all sellers have already agreed on #13 of the TOS to comply
with all applicable laws and regulations.
Now, if you want to complain about specific store terms *you* would have to show
proof that the seller(s) in question violate the respective law(s) of the
seller's country for which you most likely would need an attorney.
Keep also in mind that payment transaction costs may not only include the PP
fees but also bookeeping costs. In case of an complaint it would be up to sellers
to show proof how their specific costs add up (if already regulated by local
laws).
For clarification:
I do not in any way want to defend sellers who charge more than the actual fees
but rather want to point out how difficult it is to judge about specific terms.
I have always tried to calculate most accurate fees, specified by buyer location
- which is not quite easy, as PP fees are calculated on the whole payment and
not only on order and shipping costs - but I'm fully aware about EU sellers
who charge a "flat" PP fee.
Btw. PP fees differ in different EU countries, for example German PP fees are
different than Dutch PP fees.
Ronald
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| Author: | Brettj666 | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 09:32 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, StarBrick writes:
| | VS, Canada, Europa I**
0,5% = balance payment
3,9% + vaste kosten = credit cards
That's for Belgium sellers receiving payments from for instance Holland.
Correct?
Or am I looking at the wrong tables?
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So, are you saying if I buy from you, your PayPal fee, which you pass onto me
BEFORE I pay is variable depending on the source of money?
If I pay from a balance transfer, you pay less in fees, if I pay from a credit
card, you pay more ?
What about a bank account?
If you've charged me 3.4% but only pay .5% then a) do you notice and b) are
you actually refunding people ?
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| Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 09:16 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Gear 852543 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part {Red to Green} 2546p02 Bird with Parrot Marbled Red Pattern
Comments from Submitter:
base color is green.
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| Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 09:16 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 852747-1 | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part {Red to Green} 2546p02 Bird with Parrot Marbled Red Pattern
Comments from Submitter:
base color is green
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| Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 09:15 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 850839-1 | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part {Red to Green} 2546p02 Bird with Parrot Marbled Red Pattern
Comments from Submitter:
base color is green
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| Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 09:14 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 850449-1 | | Viewed: | 13 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part {Red to Green} 2546p02 Bird with Parrot Marbled Red Pattern
Comments from Submitter:
base color is green
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| Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 09:13 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 10218-1 | | Viewed: | 14 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part {Red to Green} 2546p02 Bird with Parrot Marbled Red Pattern
Comments from Submitter:
base color is green
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| Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 09:12 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6299-4 | | Viewed: | 12 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part {Red to Green} 2546p02 Bird with Parrot Marbled Red Pattern
Comments from Submitter:
base color is green
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| Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 09:12 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6253-1 | | Viewed: | 14 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part {Red to Green} 2546p02 Bird with Parrot Marbled Red Pattern
Comments from Submitter:
base color is green
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| Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 09:11 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6243-1 | | Viewed: | 12 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part {Red to Green} 2546p02 Bird with Parrot Marbled Red Pattern
Comments from Submitter:
base color is green
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| Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 09:10 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6240-1 | | Viewed: | 16 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part {Red to Green} 2546p02 Bird with Parrot Marbled Red Pattern
Comments from Submitter:
base color is green
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| Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 09:09 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 4182-1 | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part {Red to Green} 2546p02 Bird with Parrot Marbled Red Pattern
Comments from Submitter:
Base color is green
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| Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 09:04 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // Advice of PP-fee-less operate | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | Ultimately, I would favor 0 fees policy. No fees of any kind, with only basic
shipping tables allowed. Would make it much easier for buyers, and improve the
reputation of BrickLink a lot.
That, or an adapted price guide where buyers would see prices depending on their
+ seller's settings (if sellers charge PP, the fee is dynamically calculated
into the price depending on buyer's location).
|
Lucas, what is going to happen when BL implements autocheckout with autopayment
(march I believe). Do you really think they are going to create 5 different predetermined
boxes for extra fees that the seller can use to set fees? Doubtfull... Sellers
will need to predetermine their costs, add it in shipping and handling, period.
Buyers are getting used to the checkout and 'pay right away' method,
most sites work like that (Amazon, Ebay, to name a few), over and done with.
What a buyer wants, is to see full costs in advance (and I can tell from the
competition site), decides wether or not it is his budget, checks out and pays
and is done with it. That's the way it goes on the net.
Sellers who adopt to this method will have the advantage over those who don't,
sellers who charge (or add them in their shipping and handling) high fees will
be disadvantaged compared to their neighbour seller who doesn't, because
the buyers will have 2, 3 or more carts and they'll choose the seller
with the best overall deal. Pure and simple. What needs to change on BL is that
'inconsistancy' between sellers from all over the world and also the
mentality(*)of many sellers, particulary in the EU...
BO's owner understood, and his methods for building BO where with that idea.
You know what? It works
(*)signification:
Dear customers, it is a priveledge for you that you where able to visit my store
and fill your cart and checkout, however, just for doing so, I will charge you
PP fees, because I the seller, will not cover those for you, the heck I will
not and as a buyer you need to be reasonable and simply accept that fact, as
PP is not cheap (whining) and I want to make more money...
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| Author: | hard | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 08:34 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // Advice of PP-fee-less operate | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| I don't understand the table. But I found this. In your paypal account go
to: Merchant Tools - Transaction Fees - View cross-border transaction fees.
Put the country you want to send and it gets your fee automatically.
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| Author: | enig | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 08:29 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // Advice of PP-fee-less operate | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, RobErNat writes:
| | In Suggestions, StarBrick writes:
| | Might this be an option:
- calculate 10% fee
- receive payment
- refund any overcalculated fee after payment was received
Or will this alse affect the percentage and therefor costs made?
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It woudld be a mess I think.
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Man, thinking about this might even get me PP-fee-less in the near future.
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Now you're talking 
| | But at higher item prices? Is that what most PP-fee-less sellers do? Help me out
with some GOOD advice people....
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A little higher maybe yes, but think of all those buyers that come into your
store and see those 4.2-5.0-7.0 % and leave your store. Then think about what
happens if those same customers come to your store and see 0%, I'm sure they
will accept 1 cent more on a 8 cent part, and so you'll make 10% extra compared
to sellers who charge a fee
It's psychological...
In many cases I see stores with higher pricing and they still charge a PP fee,
never get that, it is reason n°1 for me to leave a store.
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Well, as a store with high pricing *and* PP fees..
In my specific case - I am operating under the limit for having to register as
a VAT payer. I am very close.
It means that I have a 12-month running limit of how much income I can receive,
before having to register as a VAT payer.
What that means is that I must do what I can in order to maximize my profit
out of it. One of the ways to do it is to give my customers an incentive to use
alternative payment options, which do not artificially inflate my income but
do not increase my profit.
So I am offering 0% IBAN fees, to motivate my buyers to choose this option. Until
recently I used to have 2 EUR flat fee for IBAN (my actual expenses were 2.32
EUR), but now that Lithuania has joined EURO-zone that fee has been waived.
Observations? My buyers are now opting for IBAN much more often, since I stopped
charging the 2 EUR flat fee. I proves that buyers are quite sensitive to fees.
Any flaws in my logic?
Sure. I am probably losing more sales/money by having PP fees, compared to if
I raised my prices by a few %.
But at the same time, I am pricing my parts by comparative pricing across the
PriceGuide among large(r) sellers. There is no PayPal fees info in the PriceGuide,
so I can not adjust my pricing to that. So I am just biting the bullet on this
one..
Ultimately, I would favor 0 fees policy. No fees of any kind, with only basic
shipping tables allowed. Would make it much easier for buyers, and improve the
reputation of BrickLink a lot.
That, or an adapted price guide where buyers would see prices depending on their
+ seller's settings (if sellers charge PP, the fee is dynamically calculated
into the price depending on buyer's location).
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| Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 08:25 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, StarBrick writes:
| | | | Personal rates are only for 'personal transfers', transfer for goods
are 'commercial', regardless wether you have a personal, premier or business
account
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Mmmm, that makes it even harder.
Just checked my last 8 payments on PP (USD and EUR, 5 different countries). Overall
fee is 5.6%. Ranging from a 3.6% to 8.1%.
How can you get a cost table implemented like that that can be explained and
maintained as well?
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How about you set 3 or 4 zones
1 zone 3%
1 zone 3.5%
1 zone 4%
1 zone 5%
buyer always wins a little compared to your actual cost, you don't charge
more then allowed (so ok for local laws) and it makes things simple for your
customers
yes you'll loose a bit on the transactions, but are you so strongheaded and
determined to charge your customers every single cent their order costs you 
You should be happy you get orders from customers, treat them well and in an
honest way, overcharging them with costs won't help your future business
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| Author: | enig | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 08:02 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, StarBrick writes:
| | | | A: Because I always obey all the laws *to the letter*, of course
Also because I can not stand people who are immune to reasoning.
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Ouch, if that is serious, you're in a living hell ...
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Yep, pretty hot down here
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| Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 08:01 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // Advice of PP-fee-less operate | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, StarBrick writes:
| | Might this be an option:
- calculate 10% fee
- receive payment
- refund any overcalculated fee after payment was received
Or will this alse affect the percentage and therefor costs made?
|
It woudld be a mess I think.
| |
Man, thinking about this might even get me PP-fee-less in the near future.
|
Now you're talking
| | But at higher item prices? Is that what most PP-fee-less sellers do? Help me out
with some GOOD advice people....
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A little higher maybe yes, but think of all those buyers that come into your
store and see those 4.2-5.0-7.0 % and leave your store. Then think about what
happens if those same customers come to your store and see 0%, I'm sure they
will accept 1 cent more on a 8 cent part, and so you'll make 10% extra compared
to sellers who charge a fee
It's psychological...
In many cases I see stores with higher pricing and they still charge a PP fee,
never get that, it is reason n°1 for me to leave a store.
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| Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 07:57 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| | | A: Because I always obey all the laws *to the letter*, of course
Also because I can not stand people who are immune to reasoning.
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Ouch, if that is serious, you're in a living hell ...
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| Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 07:51 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, StarBrick writes:
| | Q: what made you the crusader of EU law?
Just curious .....
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Tired of paying unreasonable PP fees I guess
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| Author: | enig | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 07:45 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, StarBrick writes:
| | Q: what made you the crusader of EU law?
Just curious .....
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A: Because I always obey all the laws *to the letter*, of course
Also because I can not stand people who are immune to reasoning.
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| Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 07:44 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // Advice of PP-fee-less operate | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| Might this be an option:
- calculate 10% fee
- receive payment
- refund any overcalculated fee after payment was received
Or will this alse affect the percentage and therefor costs made?
Man, thinking about this might even get me PP-fee-less in the near future. But
at higher item prices? Is that what most PP-fee-less sellers do? Help me out
with some GOOD advice people....
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| Author: | Remko100 | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 07:39 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| Pffff,
confusing table. IF I get it right I can charge 3,9%+fixed fee for US/Canadian
buyers. Now I charge 3,5%+fixed. But if buyer pays with paypalcredit of credit/debitcard
I can't tell (1% without fixed), so how do I know what to charge then?
Remko
In Suggestions, StarBrick writes:
| | According to my table that's for credit card payments through PP, not balance.
Or am I wrong here?
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| Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 07:38 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| | | Personal rates are only for 'personal transfers', transfer for goods
are 'commercial', regardless wether you have a personal, premier or business
account
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Mmmm, that makes it even harder.
Just checked my last 8 payments on PP (USD and EUR, 5 different countries). Overall
fee is 5.6%. Ranging from a 3.6% to 8.1%.
How can you get a cost table implemented like that that can be explained and
maintained as well?
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| Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 07:36 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| Q: what made you the crusader of EU law?
Just curious .....
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| Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 07:34 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, enig writes:
| | Dear BrickLink - perhaps you could relieve me from this, by enforcing this EU
law? Not having my hopes too high here though. I have already had this brought
up previous year though, with BL not bothering as mush as to even comment on
this.
Back then I asked to *at least* send a notification email to all sellers and
let them know about this law. My request was refused by the powers that be.
*sigh*
Lukas
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Lukas, things like this need to be repeated and my post was also to make buyers
aware, if more buyers send messages to sellers, maybe more sellers will adjust...
I will simply do so on every order I place (or in case I'd clear a cart for
that reason just as well) if I notice the seller is charging me more then what
it costs them. Simple.
Doesn't mean I wouldn't proceed on the order, but at least the warning
was made.
And I do believe Bricklink should help to enforce it, reason I used the 'suggestion'
topic and not a random 'general' message.
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| Author: | enig | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 07:26 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, RobErNat writes:
| | Posting this on behalve of the many 'consumers' (customers) who might
not be aware there are new EU directives regarding distant selling.
This post is also directed towards all sellers making things simple for themselves
and charge a (blatantly)5% (or more)to **all** of their customers.
The new directives can be found below, and each EU country is supposed to have
put this in a National Law (if not yet, probably soon).
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32011L0083&rid=1
important in this regards is:
Article 19
Fees for the use of means of payment
Member States shall prohibit traders from charging consumers,
in respect of the use of a given means of payment, fees that
exceed the cost borne by the trader for the use of such mean
It technicly means, if the actual cost (charge by PP) is 3.4 or 3.6 or 4%, that
as a seller you simply cannot charge more then what PP charges you, so
any seller continuing doing so is acting against the law.
I kindly suggest all those sellers to review PP tables in those regards and adjust
the store terms (in regards to those charges), as acting against the Law might
hurt your business.
I would invite all buyers who are noticing this to contact the sellers they are
dealing with and point out to this new directive. For local laws around it (EU
countries), one should check official documentation from his/her country, these
can usually be found online.
Now I'm posting this as a suggestion for 2 reasons:
1. So the post won't get purged after 6 months.
2. Bricklink should help to enforce this of EU sellers and the ones that keep
acting against it (after a transit period and preferably with warning) should
simply be shut down.
Cheers, Eric
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Thanks Eric.
I have been messaging some sellers about this for quite a while by now. Results?
Exactly as one would guess.
What they dont understand is that this is for their own good. And also for the
better image of BrickLink.
Some change their terms immediately, while some kindly let me know that it is
not my business. Or not so kindly, for that matter
I recently got tired of this. The next thing I will do is I *will* send notifications
to PayPal, then Seller's respective country Law authorities, and also see
if I can find an EU institution to address. Will also let all these parties know
what parties have been notified, and that action *is* expected.
This is mainly to see if these institutions (and PayPal) care.
Dear sellers - sorry if you will get caught up in this. First I will test this
on the ones who were... not so kind in replying to my messages and still have
"convenient" PP fees in your ToS. You still have time to change your terms, or
wait and see what happends and have yourself to blame.
Dear BrickLink - perhaps you could relieve me from this, by enforcing this EU
law? Not having my hopes too high here though. I have already had this brought
up previous year though, with BL not bothering as mush as to even comment on
this.
Back then I asked to *at least* send a notification email to all sellers and
let them know about this law. My request was refused by the powers that be.
*sigh*
Lukas
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| Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 07:25 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, StarBrick writes:
| | Ah, these are the commercial rates.
I was looking at the personal rates.
As I am a hobbiest seller and not registered as a commercial user of PP, I think
the personal rates apply. Correct? Or does PP not distinguish between them?
|
Personal rates are only for 'personal transfers', transfer for goods
are 'commercial', regardless wether you have a personal, premier or business
account
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| Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 07:20 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| Ah, these are the commercial rates.
I was looking at the personal rates.
As I am a hobbiest seller and not registered as a commercial user of PP, I think
the personal rates apply. Correct? Or does PP not distinguish between them?
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| Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 07:17 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| VS, Canada, Europa I**
0,5% = balance payment
3,9% + vaste kosten = credit cards
That's for Belgium sellers receiving payments from for instance Holland.
Correct?
Or am I looking at the wrong tables?
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| Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 07:12 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| According to my table that's for credit card payments through PP, not balance.
Or am I wrong here?
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| Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 07:10 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| Mmm, checking
| | If I buy from you and apply what PP tells me
PayPal charges sellers a fee of between 1,7% and 3,4% of the total sale plus
€0,35 EUR per transaction within the Euro zone.
Then you're still cooked
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| Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 07:06 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, StarBrick writes:
| | Made me adjust my PP costs anyway. I was way over the current table of costs
at the PP site. Thanks for pointing me to that!
|
Nice
But...
If I buy from you and apply what PP tells me
PayPal charges sellers a fee of between 1,7% and 3,4% of the total sale plus
€0,35 EUR per transaction within the Euro zone.
Then you're still cooked
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| Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 07:02 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| Made me adjust my PP costs anyway. I was way over the current table of costs
at the PP site. Thanks for pointing me to that!
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| Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 07:01 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, StarBrick writes:
| | Incorrect article? Where is art. 19 regarding payments?
|
Chapter III page L304/8
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| Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 07:00 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, StarBrick writes:
| | These rules you refer to, apply to commercial business only as far as I can follow
it through. So this might only be applied to those.
|
that is an "excuse" made by many sellers on this site. In most EU contries I
believe consumers are protected by these laws if the seller buys goods specifically
to resell (whether that is his main business or not, or makes a profit or not).
If you ask the Trading Standards office here to define that they will tell you
it applies to anyone who is "trading" which simply means buying goods with the
intent to resell.
| | As all sellers and buyers alike we are expected to operate within the law.
So either we should implement ALL laws from ALL countries BL has members from,
or there's a general rule that we all stick to the local laws from the country
the seller is based in. No need to add some specific rules and leave others out.
It's either ALL or NOTHING....
|
that would be nice and fair
Robert
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| Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 06:59 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, StarBrick writes:
| | These rules you refer to, apply to commercial business only as far as I can follow
it through. So this might only be applied to those.
|
That is most likely correct, allthough the directive speaks of 'traders'
The definition of 'trader' is:
‘trader’ means any natural person or any legal person,
irrespective of whether privately or publicly owned, who
is acting, including through any other person acting in his
name or on his behalf, for purposes relating to his trade,
business, craft or profession in relation to contracts
covered by this Directive
Wether that includes private sellers (hobbiests) would need to be answered by
someone who has more knowledge of Laws.
| |
As all sellers and buyers alike we are expected to operate within the law.
So either we should implement ALL laws from ALL countries BL has members from,
or there's a general rule that we all stick to the local laws from the country
the seller is based in. No need to add some specific rules and leave others out.
It's either ALL or NOTHING....
|
Briclink expects all sellers and buyers to act upon their local law, nothing
changes, EU sellers just need to adapt their charges, based on actual costs (PP
has these displayed)
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| Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 06:53 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| | Incorrect article? Where is art. 19 regarding payments? |
| Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 06:51 | | Subject: | Re: EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| These rules you refer to, apply to commercial business only as far as I can follow
it through. So this might only be applied to those.
As all sellers and buyers alike we are expected to operate within the law.
So either we should implement ALL laws from ALL countries BL has members from,
or there's a general rule that we all stick to the local laws from the country
the seller is based in. No need to add some specific rules and leave others out.
It's either ALL or NOTHING....
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| Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 06:45 | | Subject: | EU directive // For Sellers who charge PP% | | Viewed: | 316 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
| Posting this on behalve of the many 'consumers' (customers) who might
not be aware there are new EU directives regarding distant selling.
This post is also directed towards all sellers making things simple for themselves
and charge a (blatantly)5% (or more)to **all** of their customers.
The new directives can be found below, and each EU country is supposed to have
put this in a National Law (if not yet, probably soon).
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32011L0083&rid=1
important in this regards is:
Article 19
Fees for the use of means of payment
Member States shall prohibit traders from charging consumers,
in respect of the use of a given means of payment, fees that
exceed the cost borne by the trader for the use of such mean
It technicly means, if the actual cost (charge by PP) is 3.4 or 3.6 or 4%, that
as a seller you simply cannot charge more then what PP charges you, so
any seller continuing doing so is acting against the law.
I kindly suggest all those sellers to review PP tables in those regards and adjust
the store terms (in regards to those charges), as acting against the Law might
hurt your business.
I would invite all buyers who are noticing this to contact the sellers they are
dealing with and point out to this new directive. For local laws around it (EU
countries), one should check official documentation from his/her country, these
can usually be found online.
Now I'm posting this as a suggestion for 2 reasons:
1. So the post won't get purged after 6 months.
2. Bricklink should help to enforce this of EU sellers and the ones that keep
acting against it (after a transit period and preferably with warning) should
simply be shut down.
Cheers, Eric
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| Author: | Brickad | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2015 03:36 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6679-1 | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 3008pb139L Black Brick 1 x 8 with Yellow Triangle Pattern Model Left Side (Sticker) - Set 6679-1 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 3008pb139R Black Brick 1 x 8 with Yellow Triangle Pattern Model Right Side (Sticker) - Set 6679-1 (Counterpart)
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| Author: | slq | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 18:03 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 60064-1 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 4599b Black Tap 1 x 1 without Hole in End (Extra)
Comments from Submitter:
Missing extra part. Seen from a new box. (and usually an extra part).
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| Author: | legolover24 | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 15:47 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | I am sick to death of having to kill orders due to the lot limitations.
And today I got another negative for something that should have been done years
ago.
When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
|
I am with a lot of them I avoid at all cost stores that have lot limits. I want
to be able to go to a store and get the pieces I need, just like with my store
have no limits or anything. You want to come to my store and spend your money
then not going to limit or anything to what you can buy, just appreciate the
fact that people trust in me to buy from my store.
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| Author: | ZwarteMagica | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 15:27 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| If this function will be implemented, please also add a function for buyers to
exclude stores from searches who have turned this function on.
I never buy at stores with lot limits even if I meet there terms.
In Suggestions, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | I am sick to death of having to kill orders due to the lot limitations.
And today I got another negative for something that should have been done years
ago.
When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
|
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| Author: | Brock | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 13:58 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, swrbricks writes:
| | In Off Topic, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
|
I'm still confused as to why some sellers think it's BL's responsibility.
You yourself made your individual rules, it's your job to enforce them.
You could also think about it like this;
Government makes the rules and officers enforce those rules. But officers get
paid to enforce said rules.
So you could get your coding placed to regulate your limits if you wish to pay
for it. You really shouldn't demand others do what you want without some
form of compensation
|
Who else could do the coding for lot limits besides BrickLink? If it were actually
possible for individual sellers to do themselves, it would already exist and
he wouldn't be asking for the feature in the forum. I don't quite get
what you're trying to say.
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| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 13:39 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | | |
makes me thinking...what if a 10 lot order is 10.05?
will that order also be cancelled?
terms say, 10 lot order needs to be 10.00
|
No, rules can be bent, but a 200 lot 10.00 order will be cancelled.
|
If lot limits become a setting, you wouldn't be able to bend the rules.
But more importantly, if you are willing to bend the rules, how can you take
issue with buyers who don't meet your terms exactly? If you're bending
them or not as you feel like it, then I would not be surprised if you have
angry customers leaving negative feedback.
Why not just make it impossible to load up on low-value lots? Stop selling parts
at a loss for 2 cents each, or use the bulk feature to sell them in lots of 25
or 50 - whatever makes it worth your time to pick the order.
There are much more buyer-friendly ways to achieve the same results. Complicated
policies that may or may not be enforced are probably not the best solution.
I realize many other Bricklink sellers do it, but Bricklink in general is very
unfriendly to buyers. I would really oppose anything that encourages sellers
who treat their customers like an annoyance even before they've ordered anything,
but if they're here to stay, then a way to easily filter them out of search
results, etc. would be great.
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| Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 13:39 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Off Topic, swrbricks writes:
| | In Off Topic, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
|
I'm still confused as to why some sellers think it's BL's responsibility.
You yourself made your individual rules, it's your job to enforce them.
You could also think about it like this;
Government makes the rules and officers enforce those rules. But officers get
paid to enforce said rules.
|
They get paid with money that the government collects, not directly by the end
users of the service. So in your anology, it is indeed BrickLink's responsibility.
--
Marc.
| | So you could get your coding placed to regulate your limits if you wish to pay
for it. You really shouldn't demand others do what you want without some
form of compensation
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| Author: | Lonely_Brick_OH | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 13:34 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 80 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, BrickItYourself writes:
| | I haven't ordered from your store before, but if you can write your lot limit
in your shipping terms buyers would have to select it and would reduce people
pleadin ignorance.
secondly, you could always invoice people that didn't meet your lot limit
informing them they have to order X amount of dollars more without exceeding
Y amount of parts (and it would help to have a little wiggle room with buyers)
I would like to have a lot limit function. It would be great if people went
to check out and if they didn't meet it a message would explain why.
I would do in the neghborhood of .25 average per lot.
the last 350 parts in 100 lots for a total of $12 wasn't fun.
If I had more time to devote to BL I would got back to a $1 minimun and wouldn't
worry about lots....
Ken
|
That is an excellent point. We did try that for a little while, and the result
was the same. People got mad.
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| Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 13:29 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, jodawill writes:
| | In Off Topic, petertje_lego writes:
| | In Off Topic, jodawill writes:
| | In Off Topic, petertje_lego writes:
| | In Off Topic, jodawill writes:
| | In Off Topic, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | I am sick to death of having to kill orders due to the lot limitations.
And today I got another negative for something that should have been done years
ago.
When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
|
You require every lot to be at least a dollar, but you have lots that don't
add up to a dollar.
Personally, I avoid stores with lot limits. Even if my order meets their requirements,
I don't want to waste my time figuring out how to make the numbers work out.
|
not really, the average price of a lot has to be $1.-
buy 1 lot, pay $1.-
buy 2 lots, pay $2.-
in this it doesn't matter if 1 lot is $0.05 and the other is $1.95
it's still 2 lost for $2.-
and so on...
not that hard
Cheers,
Peter
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That's probably what they meant, but that's not what their terms say.
It says "at least $1 per item lot."
|
true, but their terms also say:"That means a 10 lot order needs to be 10.00."
|
That still doesn't imply an average
|
Sure it does.
If I tell you the per capita income in Canada, would that mean to you that each
individual earns that much, or that it is an average?
Or if I said "50 percent" would that mean 50 out of every arbitratry group of
100, or is it an average of a randomly selected 100?
--
Marc.
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| Author: | dcarmine | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 13:25 | | Subject: | Please make off-site links open in new tab | | Viewed: | 75 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
| I hate when I click an off-site link in a post and it opens in the current tab.
Take a lesson from BrickSet, it's a much better experience and keeps the
user at BrickLink at the same time. (yes I know how to hold the shift or control
key to get that done, but I shouldn't have to)
I think keeping a tab open at BL when a user clicks an off site link would be
in the best interest of BL.
Thank you
Donna
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| Author: | petertje_lego | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 13:25 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | | |
makes me thinking...what if a 10 lot order is 10.05?
will that order also be cancelled?
terms say, 10 lot order needs to be 10.00
|
No, rules can be bent, but a 200 lot 10.00 order will be cancelled.
|
thanks for clearing that up, but was actually responding to Jodawill's post
and not really questioning your terms in my last response
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| Author: | Lonely_Brick_OH | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 13:21 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Off Topic, swrbricks writes:
| | In Off Topic, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
|
I'm still confused as to why some sellers think it's BL's responsibility.
You yourself made your individual rules, it's your job to enforce them.
You could also think about it like this;
Government makes the rules and officers enforce those rules. But officers get
paid to enforce said rules.
So you could get your coding placed to regulate your limits if you wish to pay
for it. You really shouldn't demand others do what you want without some
form of compensation
|
Cancelled orders cost Brick Link money. They also open the seller up for negative
feedback. So, it would be a good policy to allow the seller to set this option.
Thank you for your feedback on this matter.
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| Author: | Lonely_Brick_OH | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 13:20 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| | |
makes me thinking...what if a 10 lot order is 10.05?
will that order also be cancelled?
terms say, 10 lot order needs to be 10.00
|
No, rules can be bent, but a 200 lot 10.00 order will be cancelled.
|
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| Author: | bb1086 | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 13:20 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Off Topic, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
|
I'm still confused as to why some sellers think it's BL's responsibility.
You yourself made your individual rules, it's your job to enforce them.
You could also think about it like this;
Government makes the rules and officers enforce those rules. But officers get
paid to enforce said rules.
So you could get your coding placed to regulate your limits if you wish to pay
for it. You really shouldn't demand others do what you want without some
form of compensation
|
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| Author: | Lonely_Brick_OH | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 13:19 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| | |
I feel that Bricklink store owner are better off accepting what order come their
way. If you don't you run the risk of turning people off. I have had several
under $5.00 orders come back and order over $50.00. In the long run you are
better off accepting all orders. My mother used to say "Beggars cannot be choosers"
|
Incorrect.
We did just add the word "average" to make it more clear.
Our store was almost destroyed a few years ago by a string of 100+ (50+ orders)
lot 5.00 orders.
We lost thousands of dollars on labor, had to call in extra people to help and
at the end of it all we were out product, time, labor costs as well as utilities.
We took an operational loss that quarter of almost $10,000.
At that point we went to this very forum and asked for help and advice.
The "lot limit" was given to us as a solution, and it has been working ever since.
Thank you.
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| Author: | petertje_lego | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 13:19 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, jodawill writes:
| | In Off Topic, petertje_lego writes:
| | In Off Topic, jodawill writes:
| | In Off Topic, petertje_lego writes:
| | In Off Topic, jodawill writes:
| | In Off Topic, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | I am sick to death of having to kill orders due to the lot limitations.
And today I got another negative for something that should have been done years
ago.
When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
|
You require every lot to be at least a dollar, but you have lots that don't
add up to a dollar.
Personally, I avoid stores with lot limits. Even if my order meets their requirements,
I don't want to waste my time figuring out how to make the numbers work out.
|
not really, the average price of a lot has to be $1.-
buy 1 lot, pay $1.-
buy 2 lots, pay $2.-
in this it doesn't matter if 1 lot is $0.05 and the other is $1.95
it's still 2 lost for $2.-
and so on...
not that hard
Cheers,
Peter
|
That's probably what they meant, but that's not what their terms say.
It says "at least $1 per item lot."
|
true, but their terms also say:"That means a 10 lot order needs to be 10.00."
|
That still doesn't imply an average
Sorry, as mathematician, I have a tendency to be overly pedantic.
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makes me thinking...what if a 10 lot order is 10.05?
will that order also be cancelled?
terms say, 10 lot order needs to be 10.00
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| Author: | gcarter03 | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 13:16 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, jodawill writes:
| | In Off Topic, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | I am sick to death of having to kill orders due to the lot limitations.
And today I got another negative for something that should have been done years
ago.
When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
|
You require every lot to be at least a dollar, but you have lots that don't
add up to a dollar.
Personally, I avoid stores with lot limits. Even if my order meets their requirements,
I don't want to waste my time figuring out how to make the numbers work out.
|
I feel that Bricklink store owner are better off accepting what order come their
way. If you don't you run the risk of turning people off. I have had several
under $5.00 orders come back and order over $50.00. In the long run you are
better off accepting all orders. My mother used to say "Beggars cannot be choosers"
|
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 13:01 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 71 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Off Topic, petertje_lego writes:
| | In Off Topic, jodawill writes:
| | In Off Topic, petertje_lego writes:
| | In Off Topic, jodawill writes:
| | In Off Topic, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | I am sick to death of having to kill orders due to the lot limitations.
And today I got another negative for something that should have been done years
ago.
When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
|
You require every lot to be at least a dollar, but you have lots that don't
add up to a dollar.
Personally, I avoid stores with lot limits. Even if my order meets their requirements,
I don't want to waste my time figuring out how to make the numbers work out.
|
not really, the average price of a lot has to be $1.-
buy 1 lot, pay $1.-
buy 2 lots, pay $2.-
in this it doesn't matter if 1 lot is $0.05 and the other is $1.95
it's still 2 lost for $2.-
and so on...
not that hard
Cheers,
Peter
|
That's probably what they meant, but that's not what their terms say.
It says "at least $1 per item lot."
|
true, but their terms also say:"That means a 10 lot order needs to be 10.00."
|
That still doesn't imply an average
Sorry, as mathematician, I have a tendency to be overly pedantic.
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| Author: | Made_In_Bricks | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 12:57 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| I haven't ordered from your store before, but if you can write your lot limit
in your shipping terms buyers would have to select it and would reduce people
pleadin ignorance.
secondly, you could always invoice people that didn't meet your lot limit
informing them they have to order X amount of dollars more without exceeding
Y amount of parts (and it would help to have a little wiggle room with buyers)
I would like to have a lot limit function. It would be great if people went
to check out and if they didn't meet it a message would explain why.
I would do in the neghborhood of .25 average per lot.
the last 350 parts in 100 lots for a total of $12 wasn't fun.
If I had more time to devote to BL I would got back to a $1 minimun and wouldn't
worry about lots....
Ken
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| Author: | petertje_lego | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 12:50 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Off Topic, jodawill writes:
| | In Off Topic, petertje_lego writes:
| | In Off Topic, jodawill writes:
| | In Off Topic, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | I am sick to death of having to kill orders due to the lot limitations.
And today I got another negative for something that should have been done years
ago.
When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
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You require every lot to be at least a dollar, but you have lots that don't
add up to a dollar.
Personally, I avoid stores with lot limits. Even if my order meets their requirements,
I don't want to waste my time figuring out how to make the numbers work out.
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not really, the average price of a lot has to be $1.-
buy 1 lot, pay $1.-
buy 2 lots, pay $2.-
in this it doesn't matter if 1 lot is $0.05 and the other is $1.95
it's still 2 lost for $2.-
and so on...
not that hard
Cheers,
Peter
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That's probably what they meant, but that's not what their terms say.
It says "at least $1 per item lot."
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true, but their terms also say:"That means a 10 lot order needs to be 10.00."
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 12:47 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Off Topic, petertje_lego writes:
| | In Off Topic, jodawill writes:
| | In Off Topic, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | I am sick to death of having to kill orders due to the lot limitations.
And today I got another negative for something that should have been done years
ago.
When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
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You require every lot to be at least a dollar, but you have lots that don't
add up to a dollar.
Personally, I avoid stores with lot limits. Even if my order meets their requirements,
I don't want to waste my time figuring out how to make the numbers work out.
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not really, the average price of a lot has to be $1.-
buy 1 lot, pay $1.-
buy 2 lots, pay $2.-
in this it doesn't matter if 1 lot is $0.05 and the other is $1.95
it's still 2 lost for $2.-
and so on...
not that hard
Cheers,
Peter
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That's probably what they meant, but that's not what their terms say.
It says "at least $1 per item lot."
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 12:45 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Off Topic, jval writes:
| | In Off Topic, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Off Topic, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | I am sick to death of having to kill orders due to the lot limitations.
And today I got another negative for something that should have been done years
ago.
When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
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I hate finding shops with parts I want but with lot limits (or other unfriendly
policies that scream "Please don't waste my time buying bricks from me!")
So if the lot limits were somehow coded into the shop policies in a way that
buyers could eliminate them from search results, want list notifications, etc.
that would be great.
Sellers who want to impose lot limits would have what they want, and buyers would
have a way to avoid them. Win-win.
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Instead of lot limitation a seller could place a bulk qty in his lots. Saves
time from buyer to make.. lengthy calculations
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That's what I've done in some situations. I don't want to count out
a certain number of jewels for any order. It's a waste of time. So I put
them in bags of 50 and only allow people to order 50 at a time.
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| Author: | petertje_lego | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 12:45 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Off Topic, jodawill writes:
| | In Off Topic, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | I am sick to death of having to kill orders due to the lot limitations.
And today I got another negative for something that should have been done years
ago.
When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
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You require every lot to be at least a dollar, but you have lots that don't
add up to a dollar.
Personally, I avoid stores with lot limits. Even if my order meets their requirements,
I don't want to waste my time figuring out how to make the numbers work out.
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not really, the average price of a lot has to be $1.-
buy 1 lot, pay $1.-
buy 2 lots, pay $2.-
in this it doesn't matter if 1 lot is $0.05 and the other is $1.95
it's still 2 lost for $2.-
and so on...
not that hard
Cheers,
Peter
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 12:44 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Off Topic, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Off Topic, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | I am sick to death of having to kill orders due to the lot limitations.
And today I got another negative for something that should have been done years
ago.
When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
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I hate finding shops with parts I want but with lot limits (or other unfriendly
policies that scream "Please don't waste my time buying bricks from me!")
So if the lot limits were somehow coded into the shop policies in a way that
buyers could eliminate them from search results, want list notifications, etc.
that would be great.
Sellers who want to impose lot limits would have what they want, and buyers would
have a way to avoid them. Win-win.
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Just a few weeks ago, I was about to order from someone with a lot limit; it
may have been The Lonely Brick Ohio, but I can't remember for sure. I often
forget to check the store terms before filling my cart. I spent a lot of time
going through everything they have. Then right before I submitted the order,
I saw the lot limit and emptied my cart. I was just a few cents under the lot
limit, but I had so many items in my cart, it would have taken several more dollars
to bump my average up that high.
If lot limits are to be allowed at all, I do like the idea of being able to block
sellers with lot limits.
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| Author: | jval | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 12:42 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Off Topic, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Off Topic, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | I am sick to death of having to kill orders due to the lot limitations.
And today I got another negative for something that should have been done years
ago.
When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
|
I hate finding shops with parts I want but with lot limits (or other unfriendly
policies that scream "Please don't waste my time buying bricks from me!")
So if the lot limits were somehow coded into the shop policies in a way that
buyers could eliminate them from search results, want list notifications, etc.
that would be great.
Sellers who want to impose lot limits would have what they want, and buyers would
have a way to avoid them. Win-win.
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Instead of lot limitation a seller could place a bulk qty in his lots. Saves
time from buyer to make.. lengthy calculations
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| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 12:37 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Off Topic, jodawill writes:
| | In Off Topic, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | I am sick to death of having to kill orders due to the lot limitations.
And today I got another negative for something that should have been done years
ago.
When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
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You require every lot to be at least a dollar, but you have lots that don't
add up to a dollar.
Personally, I avoid stores with lot limits. Even if my order meets their requirements,
I don't want to waste my time figuring out how to make the numbers work out.
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Exactly. It's like an algebra story problem trying to figure out some store
terms.
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| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 12:25 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 86 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Off Topic, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | I am sick to death of having to kill orders due to the lot limitations.
And today I got another negative for something that should have been done years
ago.
When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
|
I hate finding shops with parts I want but with lot limits (or other unfriendly
policies that scream "Please don't waste my time buying bricks from me!")
So if the lot limits were somehow coded into the shop policies in a way that
buyers could eliminate them from search results, want list notifications, etc.
that would be great.
Sellers who want to impose lot limits would have what they want, and buyers would
have a way to avoid them. Win-win.
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| Author: | jodawill | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 12:21 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Off Topic, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | I am sick to death of having to kill orders due to the lot limitations.
And today I got another negative for something that should have been done years
ago.
When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
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You require every lot to be at least a dollar, but you have lots that don't
add up to a dollar.
Personally, I avoid stores with lot limits. Even if my order meets their requirements,
I don't want to waste my time figuring out how to make the numbers work out.
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| Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 12:18 | | Subject: | Re: Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 83 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Off Topic, Lonely_Brick_OH writes:
| | I am sick to death of having to kill orders due to the lot limitations.
And today I got another negative for something that should have been done years
ago.
When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
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If you haven't done so already, contact Marvin directly:
http://www.bricklink.com/contact.asp?u=csa_marvin
He is open to ideas of how the site could be improved.
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| Author: | Lonely_Brick_OH | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 12:12 | | Subject: | Please include control for lot limits! | | Viewed: | 260 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
| I am sick to death of having to kill orders due to the lot limitations.
And today I got another negative for something that should have been done years
ago.
When you, the owners of Brick Link, fix this site, please, please, please include
a way for the seller to keep control of the limits on his/her store.
Thank you.
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| Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 12:06 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7645-1 | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, stargate1218 writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 50955 Black Wedge 10 x 3 Left (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 50956 Black Wedge 10 x 3 Right (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
(1). 50955 Black Wedge 10 x 3 Left with Holographic Circuit Pattern (Sticker) - Set 7645
(2). 50956 Black Wedge 10 x 3 Right with Holographic Circuit Pattern (Sticker) - Set 7645
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You need to add these stickered parts to the catalog before we can add them to
an inventory. Please delete your current requests, as they will only add another
of each of the unstickered parts to the inventory. Thanks.
The stickered wedges from this set are very similar to ones from set 7646:
...so you could base your catalog entries off of them.
Russell
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| Author: | happygolucky | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 11:14 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 79120-1 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 3069bpb354 Reddish Brown Tile 1 x 2 with Target Head-Up Display (HUD)and Blue, Green and Red Buttons Pattern (Sticker) - Set 79120 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 45410pb05 Green Slope, Curved 8 x 6 x 2 Inverted Double with Blue and Green Metal Sheets Pattern on Both Sides (Stickers) - Set 79120 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 45410pb06 Green Slope, Curved 8 x 6 x 2 Inverted Double with Blue and Brown Metal Sheets Pattern on Both Sides (Stickers) - Set 79120 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 85984pb075 Black Slope 30 1 x 2 x 2/3 with Red Rectangle, 2 Triangles and 11 Red Circles Pattern (Sticker) - Set 79120 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 85984pb074 Black Slope 30 1 x 2 x 2/3 with 6 Blue Circles, 3 Green Squares, 3 Red Rectangles and Grille on Brown Background Pattern (Sticker) - Set 79120 (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
Adding stickered counterparts to inventory. Thank you.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 11:11 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 41086-1 | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 11618 Magenta Friends Accessories Hair Decoration, Bow with Heart, Long Ribbon and Pin (Extra)
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| Author: | stargate1218 | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 10:43 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 7645-1 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 50955 Black Wedge 10 x 3 Left (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 50956 Black Wedge 10 x 3 Right (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
(1). 50955 Black Wedge 10 x 3 Left with Holographic Circuit Pattern (Sticker) - Set 7645
(2). 50956 Black Wedge 10 x 3 Right with Holographic Circuit Pattern (Sticker) - Set 7645
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| Author: | fritsp | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 09:47 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 8162-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 61678pb076R Orange Slope, Curved 4 x 1 No Studs with Black and Silver Pattern Model Right Side (Sticker) - Set 8162 (Counterpart)
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 04:50 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 10696-1 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 6014bc05 Light Bluish Gray Wheel 11mm D. x 12mm, Hole Notched for Wheels Holder Pin with Black Tire Offset Tread Small Wide, Band Around Center of Tread (6014b / 87697) (Counterpart)
* Add 4 Part 4624c06 Light Bluish Gray Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm, with Black Tire Offset Tread Small - Band Around Center of Tread (4624 / 87414) (Counterpart)
* Add 10 Part 13971c01 Light Bluish Gray Wheel 18mm D. x 8mm with Fake Bolts and Deep Spokes with Inner Ring with Black Tire Offset Tread - Band Around Center of Tread (13971 / 61254) (Counterpart)
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 04:37 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 60073-1 | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 93593c01 Light Bluish Gray Wheel 11mm D. x 6mm with 8 Spokes with Black Tire 14mm D. x 6mm Solid Smooth (93593 / 50945) (Counterpart)
* Add 4 Part 6014bc05 Light Bluish Gray Wheel 11mm D. x 12mm, Hole Notched for Wheels Holder Pin with Black Tire Offset Tread Small Wide, Band Around Center of Tread (6014b / 87697) (Counterpart)
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| Author: | fritsp | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 04:18 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 8154-1 | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 54200pb062L Yellow Slope 30 1 x 1 x 2/3 with Air Inlet and 'Hevado' Pattern Model Left Side (Sticker) - Set 8154 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 54200pb062R Yellow Slope 30 1 x 1 x 2/3 with Air Intake and 'Hevado' Pattern Model Right Side (Sticker) - Set 8154 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 3069bpb351 White Tile 1 x 2 with Black 'FIRE' Outline on White Background Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8154 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 3069bpb352 Blue Tile 1 x 2 with Blue 'TURBO' Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8154 (Counterpart)
* Add 2 Part 3069bpb353 Black Tile 1 x 2 with Two Yellow Stripes Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8154 (Counterpart)
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| Author: | fritsp | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2015 04:13 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 8162-1 | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 61678pb076L Orange Slope, Curved 4 x 1 No Studs with Black and Silver Pattern Model Left Side (Sticker) - Set 8162 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 61678pb076L Orange Slope, Curved 4 x 1 No Studs with Black and Silver Pattern Model Left Side (Sticker) - Set 8162 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 42022pb31L Orange Slope, Curved 6 x 1 with Black and Silver Pattern Model Left Side (Sticker) - Set 8162 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 42022pb31R Orange Slope, Curved 6 x 1 with Black and Silver Pattern Model Right Side (Sticker) - Set 8162 (Counterpart)
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| Author: | Grego | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2015 23:31 | | Subject: | Re: better searching | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, maggiec writes:
| | In Suggestions, jedvii writes:
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Also, if I search for 3747, I should be able to see 3747a and 3747b. instead
I get the set 3747-1 Locomotive Gray Bricks. This is maddening when I see a
part number under a piece and type it in only to discover that there's an
a or b.
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You can if you search 3747*.
But you're right, this is quite obscure and it would be helpful if you could
find them without having to know that little trick.
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And if BL was consistent in the use of metacharacters in search fields.
searching my store's inventory with the "Remarks" "any part of field", "Keyword"
min*
returns nothing found.
But if I use
min
... I get Minifig, Minfig, minifig, undetermined etc ...
Hopefully BL 2 or BL II mark IV will be consistent
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| Author: | maggiec | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2015 21:53 | | Subject: | Re: better searching | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, jedvii writes:
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Also, if I search for 3747, I should be able to see 3747a and 3747b. instead
I get the set 3747-1 Locomotive Gray Bricks. This is maddening when I see a
part number under a piece and type it in only to discover that there's an
a or b.
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You can if you search 3747*.
But you're right, this is quite obscure and it would be helpful if you could
find them without having to know that little trick.
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2015 21:39 | | Subject: | better searching | | Viewed: | 118 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Discarded | |
| I feel that if I search for "curved 1x4" or "curved 1 x 4" then 6191 Brick, Modified
1 x 4 x 1 1/3 No Studs, Curved Top should show up in the search results. it
does if you search "curved 1 x 4 x 1".
Also, if I search for 3747, I should be able to see 3747a and 3747b. instead
I get the set 3747-1 Locomotive Gray Bricks. This is maddening when I see a
part number under a piece and type it in only to discover that there's an
a or b.
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| Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2015 11:53 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8851-1 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, therobo writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 5102c05 Black Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 5L / 4.0cm (Counterpart)
* Add 7 Part 5102c05 Light Gray Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 5L / 4.0cm (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 5102c08 Light Gray Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 8L / 6.4cm (Counterpart)
* Add 2 Part 5102c10 Light Gray Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 10L / 8.0cm (Counterpart)
* Add 2 Part 5102c15 Black Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 15L / 12.0cm (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 5102c30 Black Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 30L / 24.0cm (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 5102c50 Black Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 50L / 40.0cm (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
Source: Instructions http://peeron.com/scans/8851-1/ One 12cm black comes in the main model, another one in the alternate model. See also http://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=183227&nID=886465
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Yes, this is what is needed for these inventories - counterparts for all the
cut pieces, just like we would do with string. My only quibble is the "6.4" length
piece - in the instructions it says "6cm".
Through a little bit of research I found that indeed some submitters were looking
at the "L" dimension and interpreting it as "cm" before "cm" was added to the
Item Name. This is certainly why this inventory lists a gray hose that is too
short, and likely why we have a 6.4cm hose in a 1984 inventory - it should be
8cm.
Russell
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| Author: | elias3 | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2015 11:34 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8700-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, elias3 writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, RobErNat writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | If we say "yes" to adding this type of product to set inventories, where do we
draw the line? Then we would, by extension, be hard pressed to refuse requests
like this:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=881465
I'm actually not leaning one way or the other on this request and I haven't
discussed it with Jen yet, either. But I do think the above concerns need to
be voiced at this point.
Russell
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My point of view: if you add such, buyers will expect them to be present in used
sets, not always possible... Aggrevation, confusion, discussions between sellers
and buyers etc.
Unless there is a specific written rule that says extra attributes like posters,
leaflets, playing cards do not need to be part of 'used / complete' sets.
Actually, this should really be written somewhere, as for recent sets, posters
and playing cards are already part of sets and might be considered 'regular'
by buyers
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Then we need a new inventory part for 'items also in set but not needed to
complete the set or build it'.
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We have this already, the brick separator is an extra piece, do we add the known
paper parts also as extra?
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| Author: | elias3 | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2015 11:30 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8700-1 | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, RobErNat writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | If we say "yes" to adding this type of product to set inventories, where do we
draw the line? Then we would, by extension, be hard pressed to refuse requests
like this:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=881465
I'm actually not leaning one way or the other on this request and I haven't
discussed it with Jen yet, either. But I do think the above concerns need to
be voiced at this point.
Russell
|
My point of view: if you add such, buyers will expect them to be present in used
sets, not always possible... Aggrevation, confusion, discussions between sellers
and buyers etc.
Unless there is a specific written rule that says extra attributes like posters,
leaflets, playing cards do not need to be part of 'used / complete' sets.
Actually, this should really be written somewhere, as for recent sets, posters
and playing cards are already part of sets and might be considered 'regular'
by buyers
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Then we need a new inventory part for 'items also in set but not needed to
complete the set or build it'.
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| Author: | RobErNat | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2015 11:17 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8700-1 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | If we say "yes" to adding this type of product to set inventories, where do we
draw the line? Then we would, by extension, be hard pressed to refuse requests
like this:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=881465
I'm actually not leaning one way or the other on this request and I haven't
discussed it with Jen yet, either. But I do think the above concerns need to
be voiced at this point.
Russell
|
My point of view: if you add such, buyers will expect them to be present in used
sets, not always possible... Aggrevation, confusion, discussions between sellers
and buyers etc.
Unless there is a specific written rule that says extra attributes like posters,
leaflets, playing cards do not need to be part of 'used / complete' sets.
Actually, this should really be written somewhere, as for recent sets, posters
and playing cards are already part of sets and might be considered 'regular'
by buyers
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| Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2015 10:58 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8700-1 | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, elias3 writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, elias3 writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 113582 (Not Applicable) Paper, Information Note, Use of Battery Box - 113582-D/F/I (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part (Not Applicable) 113578 Paper, Information Note, Use of Battery Box - 113578-UK/F/NL {match ID 0 to 1}
Comments from Submitter:
other languages
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I'm a little puzzled why these little leaflets are not in the Informational
Book section, and I'm wondering as to their place in an inventory. Inventories
typically do not include Lego literature, especially when the literature is variable.
More thought will need to go into this before approval.
Russell
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Former IA's did it for other paper parts.
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Can you show me some examples? Part of my reluctance has to do with these leaflets
being listed under "Paper Parts". When I think of paper parts, I think of items
like this:
The pamphlet you are wanting to add looks very similar to the many different
versions of these:
[b=3345ty]
...all of which could be considered proper instructions for sets if they had
come with set numbers printed on them. Some of these were formerly listed as
catalogs, even.
If we say "yes" to adding this type of product to set inventories, where do we
draw the line? Then we would, by extension, be hard pressed to refuse requests
like this:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=881465
I'm actually not leaning one way or the other on this request and I haven't
discussed it with Jen yet, either. But I do think the above concerns need to
be voiced at this point.
Russell
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| Author: | elias3 | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2015 10:31 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8700-1 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, elias3 writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 113582 (Not Applicable) Paper, Information Note, Use of Battery Box - 113582-D/F/I (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part (Not Applicable) 113578 Paper, Information Note, Use of Battery Box - 113578-UK/F/NL {match ID 0 to 1}
Comments from Submitter:
other languages
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I'm a little puzzled why these little leaflets are not in the Informational
Book section, and I'm wondering as to their place in an inventory. Inventories
typically do not include Lego literature, especially when the literature is variable.
More thought will need to go into this before approval.
Russell
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Former IA's did it for other paper parts.
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| Author: | crepundi | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2015 09:05 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8700-1 | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| | | I'm a little puzzled why these little leaflets are not in the Informational
Book section, and I'm wondering as to their place in an inventory. Inventories
typically do not include Lego literature, especially when the literature is variable.
More thought will need to go into this before approval.
Russell
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I agree. These information notes should not be listed as parts, as they won't
become a part of what is built. Otherwise instructions would also be parts. And
boxes.
Gisela.
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| Author: | therobo | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2015 09:03 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 8851-1 | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 5102c05 Black Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 5L / 4.0cm (Counterpart)
* Add 7 Part 5102c05 Light Gray Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 5L / 4.0cm (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 5102c08 Light Gray Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 8L / 6.4cm (Counterpart)
* Add 2 Part 5102c10 Light Gray Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 10L / 8.0cm (Counterpart)
* Add 2 Part 5102c15 Black Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 15L / 12.0cm (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 5102c30 Black Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 30L / 24.0cm (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 5102c50 Black Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 50L / 40.0cm (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
Source: Instructions http://peeron.com/scans/8851-1/ One 12cm black comes in the main model, another one in the alternate model. See also http://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=183227&nID=886465
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| Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2015 08:36 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8700-1 | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, elias3 writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 113582 (Not Applicable) Paper, Information Note, Use of Battery Box - 113582-D/F/I (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part (Not Applicable) 113578 Paper, Information Note, Use of Battery Box - 113578-UK/F/NL {match ID 0 to 1}
Comments from Submitter:
other languages
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I'm a little puzzled why these little leaflets are not in the Informational
Book section, and I'm wondering as to their place in an inventory. Inventories
typically do not include Lego literature, especially when the literature is variable.
More thought will need to go into this before approval.
Russell
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| Author: | happygolucky | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2015 05:03 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 79120-1 | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 2340pb053 White Tail 4 x 1 x 3 with White 'AVE' on Green Background Pattern on Left Side (Sticker) - Set 79120 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 2340pb054 White Tail 4 x 1 x 3 with White 'Mall' on Green Background Pattern on Right Side (Sticker) - Set 79120 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 2340pb055 White Tail 4 x 1 x 3 with Truncated Interstate 80 Sign Pattern on Right and '2 1/4' on Green Background Pattern on Left Side (Stickers) - Se (Counterpart)
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| Author: | elias3 | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2015 04:02 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 1134-1 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 113582 (Not Applicable) Paper, Information Note, Use of Battery Box - 113582-D/F/I (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part (Not Applicable) 113578 Paper, Information Note, Use of Battery Box - 113578-UK/F/NL {match ID 0 to 1}
Comments from Submitter:
other languages
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| Author: | elias3 | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2015 04:02 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 8700-1 | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 113582 (Not Applicable) Paper, Information Note, Use of Battery Box - 113582-D/F/I (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part (Not Applicable) 113578 Paper, Information Note, Use of Battery Box - 113578-UK/F/NL {match ID 0 to 1}
Comments from Submitter:
other languages
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| Author: | lego.12vtrains | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2015 02:19 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 7864-1 | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 108679 (Not Applicable) Paper, Information Note for Parents, 12V Transformer - 108679 (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Change 1 Part (Not Applicable) 108681 Paper, Information Note for Parents, 12V Transformer - 108681 {match ID 0 to 3}
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| Author: | LordSkylark | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2015 23:40 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 76007-1 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 30350b Trans-Light Blue Tile, Modified 2 x 3 with 2 Clips (thick open O clips) (Alternate) (match ID 5)
* Change 2 Part Trans-Light Blue 30350c Tile, Modified 2 x 3 with 2 Clips (thick U clips) {match ID 0 to 5}
Comments from Submitter:
SEALED SET CONTENTS.
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| Author: | Odur | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2015 14:03 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 3185-1 | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 3024 Medium Blue Plate 1 x 1 (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 3024 White Plate 1 x 1 (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 3024 Tan Plate 1 x 1 (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 3024 Medium Lavender Plate 1 x 1 (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 3070b Yellow Tile 1 x 1 with Groove (Extra)
Comments from Submitter:
Invented from a new bought sealed box.
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