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| In Suggestions, Inventrious writes:
| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
| | In Suggestions, Inventrious writes:
| | In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, WoutR writes:
| | In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | AND GET THAT DARN COMMUNIST FLAG OFF MY SCREEN.
John P
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I do not mind that flag.
I do mind that it is the ONLY flag.
I would expect to see a UK/USA/hybrid flag next to it for the English language
version of the website. (And a flag for any other language that is added.)
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What troubled me was that after the issues of the past couple of days, I awoke
to see a chines flag with an empty box of a link next to it (Since my computer
apparently does not have the Chinese characters on it). I initially thought
"Oh great, the site got hacked again!" The link at the time also looked suspect.
It seems to have been changed now.
Here at work it is not much better. It's a Chinese flag with a Chinese writing
by it, that I cannot read and have no idea why it is there in such a prominent
place on the site.
Troy
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1026 China members, 156904 US members. Why would they pick a Chinese flag? http://www.bricklink.com/memberChart.asp
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Because we're on a Chinese website, I guess. Wish there was a better reason
but it's probably it.
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Yeah, I guess we are. But i still dont see a reason for that on this site?
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The owner is Korean not Chinese.
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| Author: | starbeanie | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2014 22:11 | | Subject: | Re: BL Development Team: Test before rollout! | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Stragus writes:
| | In Suggestions, starbeanie writes:
| | 对于非英语为母语
正常中国人的翻译是精明的商业举措。
许多关于世界人口1/5的潜在买家。
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但乐高在中国有成年球迷，或者是乐高，甚至出售或流行的那边？有人可能会认为有落实更迫切的功能。
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但确实促进BL1.0有意义吗？或等待单元1 BL2.0出来了。
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| Author: | bb138026 | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2014 22:07 | | Subject: | Re: BL Development Team: Test before rollout! | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, starbeanie writes:
| | 对于非英语为母语
正常中国人的翻译是精明的商业举措。
许多关于世界人口1/5的潜在买家。
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但乐高在中国有成年球迷，或者是乐高，甚至出售或流行的那边？有人可能会认为有落实更迫切的功能。
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| Author: | starbeanie | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2014 22:04 | | Subject: | Re: BL Development Team: Test before rollout! | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Andy_Bell writes:
| | In Suggestions, Stragus writes:
| | In Suggestions, lovaquero writes:
| | Bricklink World Class Programming & Customer Serivce team -
Test before release. This concept is not hard. Perhaps in your eagerness to
pacify the crowd with pitchforks and torches you have forgotten it. Perhaps you
may just not know.
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Did anyone in the pitchfork crowd ask for a Chinese translation of the website?
Just 0.3% of the site's users are from China.
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Functioning Chinese translation is smart business move.
Many potential buyers about 1/5th of world's population.
AB
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对于非英语为母语
正常中国人的翻译是精明的商业举措。
许多关于世界人口1/5的潜在买家。
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| Author: | Andy_Bell | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2014 22:02 | | Subject: | Re: BL Development Team: Test before rollout! | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Stragus writes:
| | In Suggestions, lovaquero writes:
| | Bricklink World Class Programming & Customer Serivce team -
Test before release. This concept is not hard. Perhaps in your eagerness to
pacify the crowd with pitchforks and torches you have forgotten it. Perhaps you
may just not know.
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Did anyone in the pitchfork crowd ask for a Chinese translation of the website?
Just 0.3% of the site's users are from China.
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Functioning Chinese translation is smart business move.
Many potential buyers about 1/5th of world's population.
AB
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| Author: | bb436221 | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2014 18:54 | | Subject: | Re: BL Development Team: Test before rollout! | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | | | Thats a nice pitchfork and torch you carry.
Can you elaborate on what some of these horrible bad things are that BL has recently
done that now make it impossible for anyone to ever use BL again?
So many scream change CHANGE C H A N G E !! then.... oh wait
I dont like this change. I SAID I D O N T
L I K E T H I S C H A N G E ! !
Jim
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Jim-
Logic is of no use. Bricklink is in a complete no-win situation at this point.
The 20 or so people that seem to live to instantly criticize them will do that
here in the forum no matter what Bricklink does. (or how well/poorly they do
it)
Fortunately for the complainers, they will have a whole new host of minor issues
to blow up over on Friday when the MOC shop opens.
Scott
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I don't complain just to complain. If there is an issue, I ask BL to fix
it. Or if I feel there is something BL Admin could improve, but isn't necessary,
I mention it, and if Admin does nothing, I assume they are not going to fix it,
and, because it's not serious, I will stop asking.
You have stop seeing and criticizing BL users as a whole. Different users want
different changes, so of course there will be controversy over any BL update.
And yes, sometimes there are side effects or glitches related to an update. Take
the 18th, for instance. there was a glitch (Related to the update released on
the 18th) that would not allow many people to go to the Checkout of BL stores,
myself included. Moments later, there were many complaints on the Forum about
that, and it makes perfect sense: IT WAS A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE.
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| Author: | me00rjb | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2014 18:38 | | Subject: | Re: BL Development Team: Test before rollout! | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, QCBricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, me00rjb writes:
| | In Suggestions, QCBricks writes:
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That said, a small percentage of programmers have posted with specific
ideas about this issue and that is a far cry from many in the crowd that have
complained about every little thing that BL has done (or not done).
The problems may be systemic, but the incessant complaining by a vocal minority
on a forum will not be what changes that.
Scott
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Maybe those that complain manage to put into words others are thinking? The
numbers that post may be small, but I agree with what's being said, and believe
it needs to be said. I can add to the noise if that is what's needed for
people to realise it's not necessarily a minority who are frustrated by what's
going on.
Richard.
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All true, but coming into thread after thread saying the same things over and
over accomplishes nothing.
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I think Troy also said the same thing, but I think it does (or at the very least,
used to) accomplish something. We live in hope!
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What has it accomplished so far? BL has attempted to make changes and the vocal
few just complain about those changes!
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Yes changes have been made, but there are clearly basic problems with some of
those changes. I don't see commenting on that as complaining for the sake
of complaining, I see it as necessary. Without feedback, no one will know a
problem exists. I view it more as continuous improvement, or refinement. I
see it as positive. Here you have a diverse user base with a wide range of skills
- I think on the whole people are just trying to help make the site better.
In the past there were months of forum debate over some issues, often heated.
But I think on the whole a balanced point of view was presented, and the changes
that resulted were well thought out, and resulted in big improvements to the
site.
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Are you alleging that the vocal few represent more than 50% of BL users? I find
that hard to believe.
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No, I didn't say that. I have no idea what the majority of users thinks.
I can only speak personally, but I often find that my point of view is expressed
far more eloquently by others than I could hope to achieve, so don't consider
it necessary to wade in every time. Logically, if I feel that way, I am assuming
others do too. Clearly I can't quantify that though. It could be just me!
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| Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2014 18:15 | | Subject: | Re: BL Development Team: Test before rollout! | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, QCBricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, Stragus writes:
| | In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, QCBricks writes:
| | Logic is of no use. Bricklink is in a complete no-win situation at this point.
The 20 or so people that seem to live to instantly criticize them will do that
here in the forum no matter what Bricklink does. (or how well/poorly they do
it)
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I think that this is an unfair characterization of what happened.
Sure, complaining about the appearance of the changes made can seem petty.
But complaining about an update that was so poorly tested that it made it impossible
for some people TO PLACE ORDERS? That seems fair to me.
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For QCBricks, perhaps BrickLink is such a modern wonder, so perfect that it is
above any criticism?
Come on!... It seems hard not to criticize BrickLink when they hardly ever perform
any update, and when they try to do so, they screw up the most elementary testing
to implement features no one had asked for (do we really need a prominent Chinese
translation for the 0.3% of BrickLink users from China?).
At least the feedback percentage is mostly right, though it would be preferable
to give more weight to recent orders.
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Yea...that's exactly what it is. 
Bricklink is a place for buying and selling Lego and it works magnificently at
that. I could care less if they translate it into whatever language. We have
seen nothing but a steady increase in our sales and in the amount we make on
Bricklink. Whatever they are doing, they should keep doing.
Now, for those that are interested in BL being something else other than primarily
a place to buy and sell Lego (a place where every promise is kept, a place that
is the world's greatest catalog site, a place where the "English Only" rule
is militantly applied, a place where feedback percentage is statistically significant
to 8 decimal places using the world's most recursive algorithm, etc...),
I am sure they can find a ton of things to complain about and I am sure they
will. As I have said before, it is abundantly clear to most that read the forum
that there are about 20 users here that will complain about practically anything
BL does. We know who you are at this point.
We, along with many others will still be here growing our stores and doing right
by our customers in spite of the ceaseless complaining.
Scott
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Keep up the good fight Scott! I don't agree with everything you say, but
I do agree with some of it. In a nutshell, I don't have any major problem
with the complaining itself; only with the way some of those complaints are made.
Particularly the doomsayers who predict the end of BrickLink. BL may have more
competition nowadays, but BL is still far ahead and will always remain the premier
site for buying and selling LEGO.
Thor
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I think that the complainers are the ones that can save bricklink. I do not
see BL going away but it might not be as strong as it is or once was. The vocal
people here, the complainers, have a vested interest in this site. It was once
a community and that is a hard feeling to let go. The members made this site
with the guidance of Dan and the eBay model. The complaining is to preserve
this site and to make it user friendly.
In reality, and I lived for two years in Seoul Korea and I lived on the economy,
I think that I know a little about how Koreans think. I taught English at night
and knew hundreds of Koreans along with two Korean Captains I worked closely
with and the Korean-American Friendship group. When a Korean, and many other
nationalities including Americans, own something, it is theirs to do with as
they please. I saw a stubbornness in the people that I knew there that would
let them drive down the road to doom if they just did not look.
Do not take me wrong, I am not pigeon-holing Koreans. I love the culture. In
Korean business, it is the owner that is king, not the customer. And here the
sellers are the customers. It does cause me a bit of concern. There are many
BrickLink wannabes and BrickLink must be careful and not dismiss their attempts
to climb to the top.
John P
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| Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2014 18:03 | | Subject: | Re: BL Development Team: Test before rollout! | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, WoutR writes:
| | In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | AND GET THAT DARN COMMUNIST FLAG OFF MY SCREEN.
John P
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I do not mind that flag.
I do mind that it is the ONLY flag.
I would expect to see a UK/USA/hybrid flag next to it for the English language
version of the website. (And a flag for any other language that is added.)
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I think it would be good to have little flags for every other language BrickLink
has been translated into. As for why the Chinese flag is there (to the exclusion
of all others), my guess would be that the new owners intend to more aggressively
promote BL in the Chinese market.
Thor
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Have you any idea of the problems that would cause? There are countless knock-offs
and even sets with the same pictures and they look like real Lego sets. And
they could then mold any part they wanted to with labor at 50 cents a day. If
chroming is a problem that is already here, they could chrome people if they
wanted to.
Be afraid, be very afraid.
John P
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I am well aware of the risks and pitfalls that may occur if the Chinese presence
here is greatly expanded. Having helped dozens of companies set up shop in China,
I know the realities involved. It may be good for Chinese members and the owners.
And it will also present opportunities for many US and European sellers here.
But, as you say, there will be risks and costs involved. However, we are in no
position to say anything about it. If the owner plans to open BL more to the
Chinese market, that is his choice and we will just have to deal with it - warts
and all.
Thor
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| Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2014 17:51 | | Subject: | Re: BL Development Team: Test before rollout! | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, WoutR writes:
| | In Suggestions, Inventrious writes:
Numbers do not have to make sense.
USA
156,907 members
population (wikipedia) 318,594,000
so approximately 0,05% of the population is represented here.
China
1026 members
population 1,350,695,000
so approximately 0,00008% of the population is represented here.
Netherlands
11745 members
population 16,856,620
so approximately 0,07% of the population is represented here.
We win, I propose a Dutch flag 
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All kidding aside, I understand why that flag is there.
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I think there should be an option to buy frikandellen and kroketten here too,
like you can in most places that the Dutch invade I heard that .nl is one
of the most used website extentions in the world. We're extremely overrepresented
online.. nerd country.. 
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| Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2014 17:49 | | Subject: | Re: BL Development Team: Test before rollout! | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, QCBricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, Stragus writes:
| | In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, QCBricks writes:
| | Logic is of no use. Bricklink is in a complete no-win situation at this point.
The 20 or so people that seem to live to instantly criticize them will do that
here in the forum no matter what Bricklink does. (or how well/poorly they do
it)
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I think that this is an unfair characterization of what happened.
Sure, complaining about the appearance of the changes made can seem petty.
But complaining about an update that was so poorly tested that it made it impossible
for some people TO PLACE ORDERS? That seems fair to me.
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For QCBricks, perhaps BrickLink is such a modern wonder, so perfect that it is
above any criticism?
Come on!... It seems hard not to criticize BrickLink when they hardly ever perform
any update, and when they try to do so, they screw up the most elementary testing
to implement features no one had asked for (do we really need a prominent Chinese
translation for the 0.3% of BrickLink users from China?).
At least the feedback percentage is mostly right, though it would be preferable
to give more weight to recent orders.
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Yea...that's exactly what it is.
Bricklink is a place for buying and selling Lego and it works magnificently at
that. I could care less if they translate it into whatever language. We have
seen nothing but a steady increase in our sales and in the amount we make on
Bricklink. Whatever they are doing, they should keep doing.
Now, for those that are interested in BL being something else other than primarily
a place to buy and sell Lego (a place where every promise is kept, a place that
is the world's greatest catalog site, a place where the "English Only" rule
is militantly applied, a place where feedback percentage is statistically significant
to 8 decimal places using the world's most recursive algorithm, etc...),
I am sure they can find a ton of things to complain about and I am sure they
will. As I have said before, it is abundantly clear to most that read the forum
that there are about 20 users here that will complain about practically anything
BL does. We know who you are at this point.
We, along with many others will still be here growing our stores and doing right
by our customers in spite of the ceaseless complaining.
Scott
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Keep up the good fight Scott! I don't agree with everything you say, but
I do agree with some of it. In a nutshell, I don't have any major problem
with the complaining itself; only with the way some of those complaints are made.
Particularly the doomsayers who predict the end of BrickLink. BL may have more
competition nowadays, but BL is still far ahead and will always remain the premier
site for buying and selling LEGO.
Thor
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| Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2014 17:48 | | Subject: | Re: BL Development Team: Test before rollout! | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, WoutR writes:
| | In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | AND GET THAT DARN COMMUNIST FLAG OFF MY SCREEN.
John P
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I do not mind that flag.
I do mind that it is the ONLY flag.
I would expect to see a UK/USA/hybrid flag next to it for the English language
version of the website. (And a flag for any other language that is added.)
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I think it would be good to have little flags for every other language BrickLink
has been translated into. As for why the Chinese flag is there (to the exclusion
of all others), my guess would be that the new owners intend to more aggressively
promote BL in the Chinese market.
Thor
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Have you any idea of the problems that would cause? There are countless knock-offs
and even sets with the same pictures and they look like real Lego sets. And
they could then mold any part they wanted to with labor at 50 cents a day. If
chroming is a problem that is already here, they could chrome people if they
wanted to.
Be afraid, be very afraid.
John P
John P
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| Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2014 17:48 | | Subject: | Re: BL Development Team: Test before rollout! | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, WoutR writes:
| | In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | AND GET THAT DARN COMMUNIST FLAG OFF MY SCREEN.
John P
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I do not mind that flag.
I do mind that it is the ONLY flag.
I would expect to see a UK/USA/hybrid flag next to it for the English language
version of the website. (And a flag for any other language that is added.)
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I think it would be good to have little flags for every other language BrickLink
has been translated into. As for why the Chinese flag is there (to the exclusion
of all others), my guess would be that the new owners intend to more aggressively
promote BL in the Chinese market.
Thor
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I wonder what the use is though, when hardly any sellers understand a Chinese
language? I sure hope it doesn't lead to Chinese people addressing me in
their language. I mean, that's probably what I would do.. if a website is
in Dutch and I buy something there, I'd expect to communicate in that language
too. If you're not proficient in English to the point that you need the website
to be entirely translated, I wonder if it's a good idea to buy and sell on
Bricklink at all.
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2014 17:47 | | Subject: | Re: BL Development Team: Test before rollout! | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Inventrious writes:
Numbers do not have to make sense.
USA
156,907 members
population (wikipedia) 318,594,000
so approximately 0,05% of the population is represented here.
China
1026 members
population 1,350,695,000
so approximately 0,00008% of the population is represented here.
Netherlands
11745 members
population 16,856,620
so approximately 0,07% of the population is represented here.
We win, I propose a Dutch flag
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All kidding aside, I understand why that flag is there.
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| Author: | picabo | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2014 17:47 | | Subject: | Re: BL Development Team: Test before rollout! | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
| | In Suggestions, WoutR writes:
| | In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | AND GET THAT DARN COMMUNIST FLAG OFF MY SCREEN.
John P
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I do not mind that flag.
I do mind that it is the ONLY flag.
I would expect to see a UK/USA/hybrid flag next to it for the English language
version of the website. (And a flag for any other language that is added.)
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I think it would be good to have little flags for every other language BrickLink
has been translated into. As for why the Chinese flag is there (to the exclusion
of all others), my guess would be that the new owners intend to more aggressively
promote BL in the Chinese market.
Thor
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Yes, it would be nice to include the Dutch, French, German, Polish and Spanish
speaking countries, and others that have been members of this site for years
along with the Chinese symbol.
Pam
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| Author: | ToriHada | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2014 17:43 | | Subject: | Re: BL Development Team: Test before rollout! | | Viewed: | 74 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, WoutR writes:
| | In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | AND GET THAT DARN COMMUNIST FLAG OFF MY SCREEN.
John P
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I do not mind that flag.
I do mind that it is the ONLY flag.
I would expect to see a UK/USA/hybrid flag next to it for the English language
version of the website. (And a flag for any other language that is added.)
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I think it would be good to have little flags for every other language BrickLink
has been translated into. As for why the Chinese flag is there (to the exclusion
of all others), my guess would be that the new owners intend to more aggressively
promote BL in the Chinese market.
Thor
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| Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2014 17:41 | | Subject: | Re: BL Development Team: Test before rollout! | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Inventrious writes:
| | In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, WoutR writes:
| | In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | AND GET THAT DARN COMMUNIST FLAG OFF MY SCREEN.
John P
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I do not mind that flag.
I do mind that it is the ONLY flag.
I would expect to see a UK/USA/hybrid flag next to it for the English language
version of the website. (And a flag for any other language that is added.)
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What troubled me was that after the issues of the past couple of days, I awoke
to see a chines flag with an empty box of a link next to it (Since my computer
apparently does not have the Chinese characters on it). I initially thought
"Oh great, the site got hacked again!" The link at the time also looked suspect.
It seems to have been changed now.
Here at work it is not much better. It's a Chinese flag with a Chinese writing
by it, that I cannot read and have no idea why it is there in such a prominent
place on the site.
Troy
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1026 China members, 156904 US members. Why would they pick a Chinese flag? http://www.bricklink.com/memberChart.asp
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Because we're on a Chinese website, I guess. Wish there was a better reason
but it's probably it.
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| Author: | QCBricks | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2014 17:39 | | Subject: | Re: BL Development Team: Test before rollout! | | Viewed: | 74 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | In Suggestions, QCBricks writes:
| | True, but that is different than steering 90% of the threads into "Well BO does
it..." or whatever. I have never said that there should be no discussion. My
issue with the handful of people that clearly have an agenda.
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BrickOwl does do some things better than BrickLink, and I do not think that mentioning
that should be off limits. I do like their wanted list features better. They
can import from various file types. And you can match it up to multiple stores
at once until you find everything BEFORE you place any orders.
I could not figure out how to easily adjust the quantities there though, for
importing something from LEGO digital designer that I needed 12 copies of. And
importing it 12 times didn't work either, as it did not combine lots. So
it is far from perfect.
But to do it on BL I had to spend HOURS manually adding 142 items to my wanted
list. And then several more hours manually placing 13 different orders. And
during the process I had to manually move the items I just ordered to a different
wanted list to keep them from showing up.
So BL is far from perfect here as well. To those that say "BL is just fine because
my sales keep going up!", I will say "Imagine how much MORE they would go up
if improveemnts, such as to the wanted list, were being implemented!"
| | As I have said, it is not just the major issues, it is every single little issue
that gets turned into "OMG!!!11!!!1!1 BL is on the decline" from the same
handful of users. That is not the same thing as constructive discussion that
happened on some of the issues you mention.
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It can get annoying, but people do need to vent their frustration too. I don't
think it is necessary to question their motivation in doing so.
And the discussion of the items I mentioned was often far from civil. Especially
the exchange rates discussions! Those often got quite heated.
Troy
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All great points Troy. I know that you and I often are in pretty close agreement
on these things.
...and now we are getting vaguely threatening private messages from the one and
only mikeymase.
I think I am done here.
Best of luck everyone.
Scott
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| Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2014 17:39 | | Subject: | Re: BL Development Team: Test before rollout! | | Viewed: | 74 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mnementh writes:
| | It's a Chinese flag with a Chinese writing
by it, that I cannot read and have no idea why it is there in such a prominent
place on the site.
Troy
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That's what I was wondering too. There are many countries that have more
members than China. If Bricklink would be professional and still be in touch
with its community, we would get multiple translations or an option to help contribute
to translations. I am pretty sure a language such as German deserves a translation.
But apparently we're on SoHo Bricks' bandwagon and we have absolutely
no clue where it's going..
The only Dutch sentence in Bricklink (the description of the Dutch forum) is
completely ungrammatical and while they've been promising me to solve it
for quite some time now, the site is suddenly entirely translated into Chinese...
the way some things here are difficult to change while other changes can happen
instantly is quite.. counter intuitive to me
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| Author: | picabo | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2014 17:38 | | Subject: | Re: BL Development Team: Test before rollout! | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, calebfishn writes:
| | I do try to maintain perspective on this sort of thing.
Just yesterday, at work, the programmers made a requested change to the database.
But when the update and patch were complete, a major function of the system
was broken.
So I understand that glitches can happen in anything as complicated as Bricklink.
But here is the difference. In my work, I contacted the systems support person,
told him of the new problem, and it was fixed in less than 10 minutes. Everyone
got back on line and did their work.
Here, today, I contacted Helpdesk first thing this morning to inform of the problem
with tabs.
no action yet. No posting from admin or anyone else official about what happened.
That is not good, and I feel it is reasonable to expect better.
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You're right. The largest area where they are lacking is again communication.
I'll say it again communication; and as has been mentioned testing.
While I may not agree with every post I honestly don't think there's
one person that doesn't want BL to succeed. They want it to be better for
the buyers, want lists, etc., and more efficient for the sellers. And where is
CS Sean, he was getting pretty good at answering some questions.
Perhaps they need to stop the tickets from expiring after 30 days unless it has
been addressed.
Pam
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| Author: | bb138026 | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2014 17:34 | | Subject: | Re: BL Development Team: Test before rollout! | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, aftepes writes:
| | In Suggestions, QCBricks writes:
| | True, but that is different than steering 90% of the threads into "Well BO does
it..." or whatever. I have never said that there should be no discussion. My
issue with the handful of people that clearly have an agenda.
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I'd love to see this list of individuals who have the agenda and your opinion
on what their agenda consists of.
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That would be someone like me, as I openly stated that I wish more of my favorite
stores would also sell on BO (I like easily maximizing value for shipping with
no unexpected fees appearing out of nowhere after placing a "legally binding"
order, the usable search, and so on).
BrickLink could fix their archaic platform, or more sellers could extend their
operations to BrickOwl, any of the two (or both) would be great. But yes, I have
an "agenda", which is to buy LEGO parts on a functional web-based platform. Scary
stuff.
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| Author: | mnementh | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2014 17:23 | | Subject: | Re: BL Development Team: Test before rollout! | | Viewed: | 94 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, WoutR writes:
| | In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | AND GET THAT DARN COMMUNIST FLAG OFF MY SCREEN.
John P
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I do not mind that flag.
I do mind that it is the ONLY flag.
I would expect to see a UK/USA/hybrid flag next to it for the English language
version of the website. (And a flag for any other language that is added.)
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What troubled me was that after the issues of the past couple of days, I awoke
to see a chines flag with an empty box of a link next to it (Since my computer
apparently does not have the Chinese characters on it). I initially thought
"Oh great, the site got hacked again!" The link at the time also looked suspect.
It seems to have been changed now.
Here at work it is not much better. It's a Chinese flag with a Chinese writing
by it, that I cannot read and have no idea why it is there in such a prominent
place on the site.
Troy
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| Author: | mnementh | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2014 17:18 | | Subject: | Re: BL Development Team: Test before rollout! | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, QCBricks writes:
| | True, but that is different than steering 90% of the threads into "Well BO does
it..." or whatever. I have never said that there should be no discussion. My
issue with the handful of people that clearly have an agenda.
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BrickOwl does do some things better than BrickLink, and I do not think that mentioning
that should be off limits. I do like their wanted list features better. They
can import from various file types. And you can match it up to multiple stores
at once until you find everything BEFORE you place any orders.
I could not figure out how to easily adjust the quantities there though, for
importing something from LEGO digital designer that I needed 12 copies of. And
importing it 12 times didn't work either, as it did not combine lots. So
it is far from perfect.
But to do it on BL I had to spend HOURS manually adding 142 items to my wanted
list. And then several more hours manually placing 13 different orders. And
during the process I had to manually move the items I just ordered to a different
wanted list to keep them from showing up.
So BL is far from perfect here as well. To those that say "BL is just fine because
my sales keep going up!", I will say "Imagine how much MORE they would go up
if improveemnts, such as to the wanted list, were being implemented!"
| | As I have said, it is not just the major issues, it is every single little issue
that gets turned into "OMG!!!11!!!1!1 BL is on the decline" from the same
handful of users. That is not the same thing as constructive discussion that
happened on some of the issues you mention.
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It can get annoying, but people do need to vent their frustration too. I don't
think it is necessary to question their motivation in doing so.
And the discussion of the items I mentioned was often far from civil. Especially
the exchange rates discussions! Those often got quite heated.
Troy
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| Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2014 17:12 | | Subject: | Re: BL Development Team: Test before rollout! | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | AND GET THAT DARN COMMUNIST FLAG OFF MY SCREEN.
John P
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I do not mind that flag.
I do mind that it is the ONLY flag.
I would expect to see a UK/USA/hybrid flag next to it for the English language
version of the website. (And a flag for any other language that is added.)
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| Author: | calebfishn | | Posted: | Aug 20, 2014 17:09 | | Subject: | Re: BL Development Team: Test before rollout! | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I do try to maintain perspective on this sort of thing.
Just yesterday, at work, the programmers made a requested change to the database.
But when the update and patch were complete, a major function of the system
was broken.
So I understand that glitches can happen in anything as complicated as Bricklink.
But here is the difference. In my work, I contacted the systems support person,
told him of the new problem, and it was fixed in less than 10 minutes. Everyone
got back on line and did their work.
Here, today, I contacted Helpdesk first thing this morning to inform of the problem
with tabs.
no action yet. No posting from admin or anyone else official about what happened.
That is not good, and I feel it is reasonable to expect better.
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