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| | Author: | Rayque | Posted: | Oct 7, 2023 10:19 | Subject: | Technic Turntable 60T Redesign - 88738 | Viewed: | 183 times | Topic: | Catalog | Status: | Open | |
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| Hi all,
The 2015 Technic Turntable with 60 teeth (Part #18938) has been replaced by its
redesign, Part #88738.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=18938#T=P
Currently, #88738 is listed as an Alternate Item No for #18938. However, I own
both versions and they are not quite the same. I've attached several images
to this message to show the difference.
Part #18938 has bevel teeth, whereas the redesigned turntable #88738 has straight
teeth. Another way to tell these two apart are the amount of snap-fit joints:
the newer turntable has six of them, whereas the older one only has four.
The main reason why I request to split #88738 from #18938 is because #88738 is
functionally different from its predecessor.
#18938 has bevel teeth, meaning that other bevel gears can be used perpendicular
to it. However, because of the wider teeth, this turntable is incompatible with
Technic chain links (#3711, #3249 and #3873), which only fit spur gears.
#88738 has the same teeth width as other Technic spur gears, which matches the
older 56 teeth turntables (#2855 and #48168). This means that the newer turntable
is compatible with Technic chain links, but has lost the bevel teeth in the process.
As for the exact year when #88738 was introduced, it is probably 2022?
- I've checked my 2020 copy of #51515 (Robot Inventor), and it contains #18938.
- Looking at reviews of 2021's #75313 (UCS AT-AT), it also contains #18938.
- Reviews of 2022's #76210 (Hulkbuster) shows #88738.
- Reviews of 2023 sets, such as #42158 (NASA Mars Rover Perseverance) and #75362
(Ahsoka Tano's T-6 Jedi Shuttle), shows that these sets also include #88738.
How I got my hands on #88738 was through buying these from LEGO's online
Pick a Brick last week, in research of this topic. They no longer have #18938
for sale, which implies it is out of production.
As a normal Bricklink user, I cannot request to add part #88738 to the catalog,
because it is listed as the Alternate Item No for #18938. If possible, I would
prefer #88738 to have its own entry in the catalog because it is functionally
different enough to justify it. I'll leave it to our admins to decide.
Thank you in advance and for reading this.
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| | | | Author: | Macaronis | Posted: | Oct 7, 2023 11:41 | Subject: | Re: Technic Turntable 60T Redesign - 88738 | Viewed: | 38 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, Rayque writes:
| Hi all,
The 2015 Technic Turntable with 60 teeth (Part #18938) has been replaced by its
redesign, Part #88738.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=18938#T=P
Currently, #88738 is listed as an Alternate Item No for #18938. However, I own
both versions and they are not quite the same. I've attached several images
to this message to show the difference.
Part #18938 has bevel teeth, whereas the redesigned turntable #88738 has straight
teeth. Another way to tell these two apart are the amount of snap-fit joints:
the newer turntable has six of them, whereas the older one only has four.
The main reason why I request to split #88738 from #18938 is because #88738 is
functionally different from its predecessor.
#18938 has bevel teeth, meaning that other bevel gears can be used perpendicular
to it. However, because of the wider teeth, this turntable is incompatible with
Technic chain links (#3711, #3249 and #3873), which only fit spur gears.
#88738 has the same teeth width as other Technic spur gears, which matches the
older 56 teeth turntables (#2855 and #48168). This means that the newer turntable
is compatible with Technic chain links, but has lost the bevel teeth in the process.
As for the exact year when #88738 was introduced, it is probably 2022?
- I've checked my 2020 copy of #51515 (Robot Inventor), and it contains #18938.
- Looking at reviews of 2021's #75313 (UCS AT-AT), it also contains #18938.
- Reviews of 2022's #76210 (Hulkbuster) shows #88738.
- Reviews of 2023 sets, such as #42158 (NASA Mars Rover Perseverance) and #75362
(Ahsoka Tano's T-6 Jedi Shuttle), shows that these sets also include #88738.
How I got my hands on #88738 was through buying these from LEGO's online
Pick a Brick last week, in research of this topic. They no longer have #18938
for sale, which implies it is out of production.
As a normal Bricklink user, I cannot request to add part #88738 to the catalog,
because it is listed as the Alternate Item No for #18938. If possible, I would
prefer #88738 to have its own entry in the catalog because it is functionally
different enough to justify it. I'll leave it to our admins to decide.
Thank you in advance and for reading this.
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I bumped into this when I needed a bevel and got the Straight one. At the time
I was confused as hell but now reading your post I need to go back and check
everything again because of an older build that I did and no matter what I did
I couldn't get the dam Turntable to mesh. I didn't give much thought
to look at the number/ alt but went into my collection and found another one
which by quick inspection was quite different.
Thanks for letting me know I'm not crazy
W
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| | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Oct 7, 2023 11:59 | Subject: | Re: Technic Turntable 60T Redesign - 88738 | Viewed: | 32 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, Macaronis writes:
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Thanks for letting me know I'm not crazy
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Let’s not jump to conclusions
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| | | | | | | | Author: | Macaronis | Posted: | Oct 7, 2023 18:56 | Subject: | Re: Technic Turntable 60T Redesign - 88738 | Viewed: | 33 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, SylvainLS writes:
| In Catalog Requests, Macaronis writes:
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Thanks for letting me know I'm not crazy
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Let’s not jump to conclusions
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HAHAha, This was going to make me one step away from Rubber Room Material.
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| | | | Author: | tec | Posted: | Oct 9, 2023 12:38 | Subject: | Re: Technic Turntable 60T Redesign - 88738 | Viewed: | 36 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| If you ever wanted to make a chain transmission 8:60, only mould n.2 make it
possible.
YES to make a cat entry
I would love to have both moulds in fact.
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| | | | Author: | tec | Posted: | Oct 10, 2023 12:22 | Subject: | Re: Technic Turntable 60T Redesign - 88738 | Viewed: | 42 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| 75362-1 is new mould
the part is very visible in this model
in retrospect, even box art was precise enough to tell the mould.
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| | | | Author: | tec | Posted: | Oct 10, 2023 12:52 | Subject: | Re: Technic Turntable 60T Redesign - 88738 | Viewed: | 34 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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42128 is old mould
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| | | | Author: | tec | Posted: | Oct 10, 2023 12:57 | Subject: | Re: Technic Turntable 60T Redesign - 88738 | Viewed: | 33 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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42121 is old mould
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| | | | Author: | tec | Posted: | Oct 10, 2023 13:06 | Subject: | Re: Technic Turntable 60T Redesign - 88738 | Viewed: | 29 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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didn't remember it had a spinning stand
76240 is old mould
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| | | | Author: | tec | Posted: | Oct 10, 2023 13:28 | Subject: | Re: Technic Turntable 60T Redesign - 88738 | Viewed: | 35 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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42144 is new mould
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| | | | Author: | Duq | Posted: | Apr 18, 2024 18:19 | Subject: | Re: Technic Turntable 60T Redesign - 88738 | Viewed: | 32 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| So, Catalog admins, will this get updated?
At the moment you have 18938 and 88738 as alternate numbers for the same part,
and 48168 as a mold variant. How anyone could have entered a 60 tooth gear as
mold variant of a 56 tooth gear is a question for another day...
From what I can see the mold variant link should be removed - Z56 and Z60 are
different.
The alternate number link should also be removed, and the descriptions of the
part should be updated to reflect the bevel teeth on one of them.
Or does all this fall in your recent program of dumbing down the database...
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| | | | | | Author: | randyf | Posted: | Apr 18, 2024 21:33 | Subject: | Re: Technic Turntable 60T Redesign - 88738 | Viewed: | 44 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, Duq writes:
| So, Catalog admins, will this get updated?
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Yes.
| At the moment you have 18938 and 88738 as alternate numbers for the same part,
and 48168 as a mold variant. How anyone could have entered a 60 tooth gear as
mold variant of a 56 tooth gear is a question for another day...
From what I can see the mold variant link should be removed - Z56 and Z60 are
different.
The alternate number link should also be removed, and the descriptions of the
part should be updated to reflect the bevel teeth on one of them.
Or does all this fall in your recent program of dumbing down the database...
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That had nothing to do with the catalog administrators.
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| | | | Author: | randyf | Posted: | Apr 29, 2024 00:33 | Subject: | Re: Technic Turntable 60T Redesign - 88738 | Viewed: | 52 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, Rayque writes:
| Hi all,
The 2015 Technic Turntable with 60 teeth (Part #18938) has been replaced by its
redesign, Part #88738.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=18938#T=P
Currently, #88738 is listed as an Alternate Item No for #18938. However, I own
both versions and they are not quite the same. I've attached several images
to this message to show the difference.
Part #18938 has bevel teeth, whereas the redesigned turntable #88738 has straight
teeth. Another way to tell these two apart are the amount of snap-fit joints:
the newer turntable has six of them, whereas the older one only has four.
The main reason why I request to split #88738 from #18938 is because #88738 is
functionally different from its predecessor.
#18938 has bevel teeth, meaning that other bevel gears can be used perpendicular
to it. However, because of the wider teeth, this turntable is incompatible with
Technic chain links (#3711, #3249 and #3873), which only fit spur gears.
#88738 has the same teeth width as other Technic spur gears, which matches the
older 56 teeth turntables (#2855 and #48168). This means that the newer turntable
is compatible with Technic chain links, but has lost the bevel teeth in the process.
As for the exact year when #88738 was introduced, it is probably 2022?
- I've checked my 2020 copy of #51515 (Robot Inventor), and it contains #18938.
- Looking at reviews of 2021's #75313 (UCS AT-AT), it also contains #18938.
- Reviews of 2022's #76210 (Hulkbuster) shows #88738.
- Reviews of 2023 sets, such as #42158 (NASA Mars Rover Perseverance) and #75362
(Ahsoka Tano's T-6 Jedi Shuttle), shows that these sets also include #88738.
How I got my hands on #88738 was through buying these from LEGO's online
Pick a Brick last week, in research of this topic. They no longer have #18938
for sale, which implies it is out of production.
As a normal Bricklink user, I cannot request to add part #88738 to the catalog,
because it is listed as the Alternate Item No for #18938. If possible, I would
prefer #88738 to have its own entry in the catalog because it is functionally
different enough to justify it. I'll leave it to our admins to decide.
Thank you in advance and for reading this.
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This has been completed.
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has been replaced by
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has been replaced by
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* | | 18939c02 Technic Turntable 60 Tooth with Dark Bluish Gray Top (18939 / 18938u) (Undetermined Type) Parts: Technic Marked for Deletion |
has been replaced by
* | | 18939c04 (Inv) Technic Turntable 60 Tooth with Dark Bluish Gray Top with Beveled Teeth (18939 / 18938) Parts: Technic |
and
* | | 18939c05 (Inv) Technic Turntable 60 Tooth with Dark Bluish Gray Top with Straight Teeth (18939 / 88738) Parts: Technic |
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The set inventories are currently in the process of being updated.
Cheers,
Randy
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