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 Author: MTM View Messages Posted By MTM
 Posted: Jan 16, 2025 11:39
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Hello,

I have a problem:
My store was suspended from Bricklink because I didn't pay my fees.
The problem is: I forgot it first, but I paid it one hour after deadline. I also
paid it a twice time some hours later, but Bricklink didn't notice.
My profile still says I haven't paid any fees.

I also wrote to Bricklink but don't get a response.
How long does it typically take the problem center team to resolve an issue like
this?

Micah
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Jan 16, 2025 11:55
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In General, MTM writes:
  Hello,

I have a problem:
My store was suspended from Bricklink because I didn't pay my fees.
The problem is: I forgot it first, but I paid it one hour after deadline. I also
paid it a twice time some hours later, but Bricklink didn't notice.
My profile still says I haven't paid any fees.

You had like 1 month to pay


  I also wrote to Bricklink but don't get a response.
How long does it typically take the problem center team to resolve an issue like
this?

Days or weeks.

You're note alone - see other Forum posts.
An Admin will probably read you in Forum and solve this ultra fast.

Please pay your fees very early so you're not annoyed anymore
 Author: Adakos View Messages Posted By Adakos
 Posted: Jan 16, 2025 12:56
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In General, MTM writes:
  Hello,

I have a problem:
My store was suspended from Bricklink because I didn't pay my fees.
The problem is: I forgot it first, but I paid it one hour after deadline. I also
paid it a twice time some hours later, but Bricklink didn't notice.
My profile still says I haven't paid any fees.

I also wrote to Bricklink but don't get a response.
How long does it typically take the problem center team to resolve an issue like
this?

Micah

Have the same problem, hope admin helps!)
 Author: ScubaSteve View Messages Posted By ScubaSteve
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In General, Adakos writes:
  In General, MTM writes:
  Hello,

I have a problem:
My store was suspended from Bricklink because I didn't pay my fees.
The problem is: I forgot it first, but I paid it one hour after deadline. I also
paid it a twice time some hours later, but Bricklink didn't notice.
My profile still says I haven't paid any fees.

I also wrote to Bricklink but don't get a response.
How long does it typically take the problem center team to resolve an issue like
this?

Micah

Have the same problem, hope admin helps!)

I tried to make a partial payment of 300 towards my fees due on Feb 4 and it
wouldnt let me. Weird you can't do a partial. I always thought a percentage
of something was better than a percentage of nothing.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jan 16, 2025 17:27
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In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, Adakos writes:
  In General, MTM writes:
  Hello,

I have a problem:
My store was suspended from Bricklink because I didn't pay my fees.
The problem is: I forgot it first, but I paid it one hour after deadline. I also
paid it a twice time some hours later, but Bricklink didn't notice.
My profile still says I haven't paid any fees.

I also wrote to Bricklink but don't get a response.
How long does it typically take the problem center team to resolve an issue like
this?

Micah

Have the same problem, hope admin helps!)

I tried to make a partial payment of 300 towards my fees due on Feb 4 and it
wouldnt let me. Weird you can't do a partial. I always thought a percentage
of something was better than a percentage of nothing.

You pay the bill or you get suspended. You cannot make partial payments as that
is not paying the bill. If you could pay a little and let the rest carry over
without being suspended, then people could make a tiny transaction every month
and run up large debts.

Similarly, you cannot make multiple payments. Each one attracts fees. Would you
want a buyer to pay you $50 in 100 separate 50c transactions?
 Author: ScubaSteve View Messages Posted By ScubaSteve
 Posted: Jan 16, 2025 19:43
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In General, yorbrick writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, Adakos writes:
  In General, MTM writes:
  Hello,

I have a problem:
My store was suspended from Bricklink because I didn't pay my fees.
The problem is: I forgot it first, but I paid it one hour after deadline. I also
paid it a twice time some hours later, but Bricklink didn't notice.
My profile still says I haven't paid any fees.

I also wrote to Bricklink but don't get a response.
How long does it typically take the problem center team to resolve an issue like
this?

Micah

Have the same problem, hope admin helps!)

I tried to make a partial payment of 300 towards my fees due on Feb 4 and it
wouldnt let me. Weird you can't do a partial. I always thought a percentage
of something was better than a percentage of nothing.

You pay the bill or you get suspended. You cannot make partial payments as that
is not paying the bill. If you could pay a little and let the rest carry over
without being suspended, then people could make a tiny transaction every month
and run up large debts.

Similarly, you cannot make multiple payments. Each one attracts fees. Would you
want a buyer to pay you $50 in 100 separate 50c transactions?

I don't think you quite understand what I am saying. Firstly I always pay
every account in any aspect of life in full and before its due. THAT INCLUDES
BRICKLINK!

What I was saying is that if I had 400 due in 3 weeks time (which is factual)
and I had a random 300 sitting in a paypal account, why could I not make a partial
payment for no other reason than I wanted to pay 300.00 WHICH IS NOT DUE.

They are fees on a sale, not a sale itself. I didn't ask for anything to
be carried over, nor do I want that, nor did I suggest it.

So before you start dictating to me the rights and wrongs in a financial transaction
consider the true meaning and don't be so rude!!!!

Perhaps I can word it like this and perhaps someone can read it to you. "Why
can't people make partial payment on accounts during the month rather than
one large sum of money at the end of the month when the totality of those fees
become due and payable?"

I donate and give away more money in a year than the average person makes in
wages.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Jan 16, 2025 20:14
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In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  Similarly, you cannot make multiple payments. Each one attracts fees. Would you
want a buyer to pay you $50 in 100 separate 50c transactions?

I don't think you quite understand what I am saying.

What I was saying is that if I had 400 due in 3 weeks time (which is factual)
and I had a random 300 sitting in a paypal account, why could I not make a partial
payment for no other reason than I wanted to pay 300.00 WHICH IS NOT DUE.

Apparently YOU don't understand what yorbrick is saying.

If PayPal *base* fees are say $0.50, then for 1 payment BrickLink would pay $0.50
to PayPal, but for 2 payments BrickLink would pay $1.00, etc.

So BrickLink accepts only ONE payment.



PS: you're not obliged to display actual amounts.
 Author: ScubaSteve View Messages Posted By ScubaSteve
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In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  Similarly, you cannot make multiple payments. Each one attracts fees. Would you
want a buyer to pay you $50 in 100 separate 50c transactions?

I don't think you quite understand what I am saying.

What I was saying is that if I had 400 due in 3 weeks time (which is factual)
and I had a random 300 sitting in a paypal account, why could I not make a partial
payment for no other reason than I wanted to pay 300.00 WHICH IS NOT DUE.

Apparently YOU don't understand what yorbrick is saying.

If PayPal *base* fees are say $0.50, then for 1 payment BrickLink would pay $0.50
to PayPal, but for 2 payments BrickLink would pay $1.00, etc.

So BrickLink accepts only ONE payment.



PS: you're not obliged to display actual amounts.

What are you talking about ? Paypal? I am talking about Bricklink fees, Paypal
is wholly irrelevant to the conversation.

If I owed bricklink money and that money was due in several weeks time, why cant
a person make several payments to ensure the balance owed by the 4th day of the
month was paid in full.

This is nothing to do with Paypal.

This amount owed is based on the previous month of trading. Its an amount owed
and previously billed by bricklink.

What are you talking about?
 Author: RebelliousBrick View Messages Posted By RebelliousBrick
 Posted: Jan 16, 2025 20:52
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In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  Similarly, you cannot make multiple payments. Each one attracts fees. Would you
want a buyer to pay you $50 in 100 separate 50c transactions?

I don't think you quite understand what I am saying.

What I was saying is that if I had 400 due in 3 weeks time (which is factual)
and I had a random 300 sitting in a paypal account, why could I not make a partial
payment for no other reason than I wanted to pay 300.00 WHICH IS NOT DUE.

Apparently YOU don't understand what yorbrick is saying.

If PayPal *base* fees are say $0.50, then for 1 payment BrickLink would pay $0.50
to PayPal, but for 2 payments BrickLink would pay $1.00, etc.

So BrickLink accepts only ONE payment.



PS: you're not obliged to display actual amounts.

What are you talking about ? Paypal? I am talking about Bricklink fees, Paypal
is wholly irrelevant to the conversation.

If I owed bricklink money and that money was due in several weeks time, why cant
a person make several payments to ensure the balance owed by the 4th day of the
month was paid in full.

This is nothing to do with Paypal.

This amount owed is based on the previous month of trading. Its an amount owed
and previously billed by bricklink.

What are you talking about?

Because when I pay the fees I owe Bricklink I pay through PayPal like most other
people.
 Author: ScubaSteve View Messages Posted By ScubaSteve
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In General, RebelliousBrick writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  Similarly, you cannot make multiple payments. Each one attracts fees. Would you
want a buyer to pay you $50 in 100 separate 50c transactions?

I don't think you quite understand what I am saying.

What I was saying is that if I had 400 due in 3 weeks time (which is factual)
and I had a random 300 sitting in a paypal account, why could I not make a partial
payment for no other reason than I wanted to pay 300.00 WHICH IS NOT DUE.

Apparently YOU don't understand what yorbrick is saying.

If PayPal *base* fees are say $0.50, then for 1 payment BrickLink would pay $0.50
to PayPal, but for 2 payments BrickLink would pay $1.00, etc.

So BrickLink accepts only ONE payment.



PS: you're not obliged to display actual amounts.

What are you talking about ? Paypal? I am talking about Bricklink fees, Paypal
is wholly irrelevant to the conversation.

If I owed bricklink money and that money was due in several weeks time, why cant
a person make several payments to ensure the balance owed by the 4th day of the
month was paid in full.

This is nothing to do with Paypal.

This amount owed is based on the previous month of trading. Its an amount owed
and previously billed by bricklink.

What are you talking about?

Because when I pay the fees I owe Bricklink I pay through PayPal like most other
people.

Ok so the 2 answers put together make a little more sense. So a person could
not make 2-4 payments to pay bricklink fees because they would have to use paypal
and paypal would charge 3 or 4 times .50? (1.50-2.00).

Is that the reason you are suggesting why a person cant pay a partial amount
to ensure they are complying with Bricklinks fees schedules?
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Jan 16, 2025 21:06
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In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, RebelliousBrick writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  Similarly, you cannot make multiple payments. Each one attracts fees. Would you
want a buyer to pay you $50 in 100 separate 50c transactions?

I don't think you quite understand what I am saying.

What I was saying is that if I had 400 due in 3 weeks time (which is factual)
and I had a random 300 sitting in a paypal account, why could I not make a partial
payment for no other reason than I wanted to pay 300.00 WHICH IS NOT DUE.

Apparently YOU don't understand what yorbrick is saying.

If PayPal *base* fees are say $0.50, then for 1 payment BrickLink would pay $0.50
to PayPal, but for 2 payments BrickLink would pay $1.00, etc.

So BrickLink accepts only ONE payment.



PS: you're not obliged to display actual amounts.

What are you talking about ? Paypal? I am talking about Bricklink fees, Paypal
is wholly irrelevant to the conversation.

If I owed bricklink money and that money was due in several weeks time, why cant
a person make several payments to ensure the balance owed by the 4th day of the
month was paid in full.

This is nothing to do with Paypal.

This amount owed is based on the previous month of trading. Its an amount owed
and previously billed by bricklink.

What are you talking about?

Because when I pay the fees I owe Bricklink I pay through PayPal like most other
people.

Ok so the 2 answers put together make a little more sense. So a person could
not make 2-4 payments to pay bricklink fees because they would have to use paypal
and paypal would charge 3 or 4 times .50? (1.50-2.00).

Is that the reason you are suggesting why a person cant pay a partial amount
to ensure they are complying with Bricklinks fees schedules?

most likely. if your talking about one or 2 payments here and there, it isn't
much but when you have almost 20,000 stores that could potentially cost bricklink
quite a bit of money.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In General, Nubs_Select writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, RebelliousBrick writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  Similarly, you cannot make multiple payments. Each one attracts fees. Would you
want a buyer to pay you $50 in 100 separate 50c transactions?

I don't think you quite understand what I am saying.

What I was saying is that if I had 400 due in 3 weeks time (which is factual)
and I had a random 300 sitting in a paypal account, why could I not make a partial
payment for no other reason than I wanted to pay 300.00 WHICH IS NOT DUE.

Apparently YOU don't understand what yorbrick is saying.

If PayPal *base* fees are say $0.50, then for 1 payment BrickLink would pay $0.50
to PayPal, but for 2 payments BrickLink would pay $1.00, etc.

So BrickLink accepts only ONE payment.



PS: you're not obliged to display actual amounts.

What are you talking about ? Paypal? I am talking about Bricklink fees, Paypal
is wholly irrelevant to the conversation.

If I owed bricklink money and that money was due in several weeks time, why cant
a person make several payments to ensure the balance owed by the 4th day of the
month was paid in full.

This is nothing to do with Paypal.

This amount owed is based on the previous month of trading. Its an amount owed
and previously billed by bricklink.

What are you talking about?

Because when I pay the fees I owe Bricklink I pay through PayPal like most other
people.

Ok so the 2 answers put together make a little more sense. So a person could
not make 2-4 payments to pay bricklink fees because they would have to use paypal
and paypal would charge 3 or 4 times .50? (1.50-2.00).

Is that the reason you are suggesting why a person cant pay a partial amount
to ensure they are complying with Bricklinks fees schedules?

most likely. if your talking about one or 2 payments here and there, it isn't
much but when you have almost 20,000 stores that could potentially cost bricklink
quite a bit of money.

20000 * $0.50 base price is $10,000 - ten grands of base fees.

If everyone paid twice, it's $20,000

Even if those numbers are random, stupid and incorrect, it's not nothing.
 Author: ScubaSteve View Messages Posted By ScubaSteve
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In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In General, Nubs_Select writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, RebelliousBrick writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  Similarly, you cannot make multiple payments. Each one attracts fees. Would you
want a buyer to pay you $50 in 100 separate 50c transactions?

I don't think you quite understand what I am saying.

What I was saying is that if I had 400 due in 3 weeks time (which is factual)
and I had a random 300 sitting in a paypal account, why could I not make a partial
payment for no other reason than I wanted to pay 300.00 WHICH IS NOT DUE.

Apparently YOU don't understand what yorbrick is saying.

If PayPal *base* fees are say $0.50, then for 1 payment BrickLink would pay $0.50
to PayPal, but for 2 payments BrickLink would pay $1.00, etc.

So BrickLink accepts only ONE payment.



PS: you're not obliged to display actual amounts.

What are you talking about ? Paypal? I am talking about Bricklink fees, Paypal
is wholly irrelevant to the conversation.

If I owed bricklink money and that money was due in several weeks time, why cant
a person make several payments to ensure the balance owed by the 4th day of the
month was paid in full.

This is nothing to do with Paypal.

This amount owed is based on the previous month of trading. Its an amount owed
and previously billed by bricklink.

What are you talking about?

Because when I pay the fees I owe Bricklink I pay through PayPal like most other
people.

Ok so the 2 answers put together make a little more sense. So a person could
not make 2-4 payments to pay bricklink fees because they would have to use paypal
and paypal would charge 3 or 4 times .50? (1.50-2.00).

Is that the reason you are suggesting why a person cant pay a partial amount
to ensure they are complying with Bricklinks fees schedules?

most likely. if your talking about one or 2 payments here and there, it isn't
much but when you have almost 20,000 stores that could potentially cost bricklink
quite a bit of money.

20000 * $0.50 base price is $10,000 - ten grands of base fees.

If everyone paid twice, it's $20,000

Even if those numbers are random, stupid and incorrect, it's not nothing.

I sold a lot more than that in lego last month. The real question is what did
I spend it on?
 Author: ScubaSteve View Messages Posted By ScubaSteve
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In General, Nubs_Select writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, RebelliousBrick writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  Similarly, you cannot make multiple payments. Each one attracts fees. Would you
want a buyer to pay you $50 in 100 separate 50c transactions?

I don't think you quite understand what I am saying.

What I was saying is that if I had 400 due in 3 weeks time (which is factual)
and I had a random 300 sitting in a paypal account, why could I not make a partial
payment for no other reason than I wanted to pay 300.00 WHICH IS NOT DUE.

Apparently YOU don't understand what yorbrick is saying.

If PayPal *base* fees are say $0.50, then for 1 payment BrickLink would pay $0.50
to PayPal, but for 2 payments BrickLink would pay $1.00, etc.

So BrickLink accepts only ONE payment.



PS: you're not obliged to display actual amounts.

What are you talking about ? Paypal? I am talking about Bricklink fees, Paypal
is wholly irrelevant to the conversation.

If I owed bricklink money and that money was due in several weeks time, why cant
a person make several payments to ensure the balance owed by the 4th day of the
month was paid in full.

This is nothing to do with Paypal.

This amount owed is based on the previous month of trading. Its an amount owed
and previously billed by bricklink.

What are you talking about?

Because when I pay the fees I owe Bricklink I pay through PayPal like most other
people.

Ok so the 2 answers put together make a little more sense. So a person could
not make 2-4 payments to pay bricklink fees because they would have to use paypal
and paypal would charge 3 or 4 times .50? (1.50-2.00).

Is that the reason you are suggesting why a person cant pay a partial amount
to ensure they are complying with Bricklinks fees schedules?

most likely. if your talking about one or 2 payments here and there, it isn't
much but when you have almost 20,000 stores that could potentially cost bricklink
quite a bit of money.

I agree with that Nubs.

Why cant bricklink provide an option matrix on its fee payment page on a percentage
basis. Ie remit 50% now and 50% when its due?

The reason I am having this discussion is because a friend of mine who also owns
a bricklink store went through his last month. As a result he spent the funds
he had and couldn't pay his monthly bricklink fee of 300 canadian so I paid
it for him.

Bricklink I feel is obliged to make the cost of business easier and more friendly
for us. Without us they dont exist. 100% people have to pay their accounts in
a timely manner, but there must be other options to assist some of the strugglers.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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  Why cant bricklink provide an option matrix on its fee payment page on a percentage
basis. Ie remit 50% now and 50% when its due?

Because nothing is due until the invoice is issued. Sellers then have a month
to pay, followed by about 10 days warning period.

  The reason I am having this discussion is because a friend of mine who also owns
a bricklink store went through his last month. As a result he spent the funds
he had and couldn't pay his monthly bricklink fee of 300 canadian so I paid
it for him.

The friend needs to act a little more professionally. They know what fees are
due for recent transactions and when they will be due. So they need to keep that
money aside ready to pay their fees once invoiced. That is hardly something unusual
for business transactions.


  Bricklink I feel is obliged to make the cost of business easier and more friendly
for us. Without us they dont exist. 100% people have to pay their accounts in
a timely manner, but there must be other options to assist some of the strugglers.

They do nake the cost of business easier by allowing their users to run up a
debt then pay it once per month. It would be harder to run a business if they
forced you to pay fees up front and only allowed you to sell if your current
balance covered the costs (like a pay as you go phone contract), or expect
users to pay fees every week instead of every month so they cannot build up larger
debts. They could also charge users at the time of the sale, forcing all payments
online, collecting the fee at the time the buyer pays like tax payments. But
I imagine many sellers would be against that, especially if refunds are necessary.
Or they could go to automatic billing where the user agrees to a variable subscription
and bricklink automatically charge through PayPal every month. That way, there
is no remembering to pay but problems happen when the seller such as your friend
does not have the money in their account and their backup credit card or bank
account gets charged.

If people are struggling to pay their fees and fail to do it within a month,
then it is best to stop them running up more fees until they pay them off. They
already get a month from the invoice. If their transactions are relatively steady,
then at 3% fees that accounts to one day of transactions being enough income
to pay the fees. So having a full month to pay should give any active seller
enough time to generate enough income to cover the fees bill for the previous
month.
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In General, yorbrick writes:
  
  Why cant bricklink provide an option matrix on its fee payment page on a percentage
basis. Ie remit 50% now and 50% when its due?

Because nothing is due until the invoice is issued. Sellers then have a month
to pay, followed by about 10 days warning period.

  The reason I am having this discussion is because a friend of mine who also owns
a bricklink store went through his last month. As a result he spent the funds
he had and couldn't pay his monthly bricklink fee of 300 canadian so I paid
it for him.

The friend needs to act a little more professionally. They know what fees are
due for recent transactions and when they will be due. So they need to keep that
money aside ready to pay their fees once invoiced. That is hardly something unusual
for business transactions.


  Bricklink I feel is obliged to make the cost of business easier and more friendly
for us. Without us they dont exist. 100% people have to pay their accounts in
a timely manner, but there must be other options to assist some of the strugglers.

They do nake the cost of business easier by allowing their users to run up a
debt then pay it once per month. It would be harder to run a business if they
forced you to pay fees up front and only allowed you to sell if your current
balance covered the costs (like a pay as you go phone contract), or expect
users to pay fees every week instead of every month so they cannot build up larger
debts. They could also charge users at the time of the sale, forcing all payments
online, collecting the fee at the time the buyer pays like tax payments. But
I imagine many sellers would be against that, especially if refunds are necessary.
Or they could go to automatic billing where the user agrees to a variable subscription
and bricklink automatically charge through PayPal every month. That way, there
is no remembering to pay but problems happen when the seller such as your friend
does not have the money in their account and their backup credit card or bank
account gets charged.

If people are struggling to pay their fees and fail to do it within a month,
then it is best to stop them running up more fees until they pay them off. They
already get a month from the invoice. If their transactions are relatively steady,
then at 3% fees that accounts to one day of transactions being enough income
to pay the fees. So having a full month to pay should give any active seller
enough time to generate enough income to cover the fees bill for the previous
month.

Thank you for the intelligent reply.

I agree with all points, but I still don't see why Bricklink like many other
facilities cant offer the ability to provide the option for people to pay off
smaller amounts , however ensuring the final amount is paid in full by the due
date.

The entire credit card argument is not really valid. I for example do not owe
any money anywhere and dont own a credit card, The easiest way to save money
is to destroy your credit cards.

I fully understand the points made by others about .50 for each paypal fee charged
by paypal onto bricklink to remit fees. I fully understand the 20,000 store numbers.

Why cant Bricklink negotiate this with Paypal on behalf of its sellers? Paypal
makes a ton of money on a monthly basis off bricklink sellers in fees. Paypal
is being somewhat usurious by charging a fee onto bricklink for fee remission.
If this is indeed factual. To date the entire thread assumes Bricklink is charged
a fee.
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  Why cant Bricklink negotiate this with Paypal on behalf of its sellers? Paypal
makes a ton of money on a monthly basis off bricklink sellers in fees. Paypal
is being somewhat usurious by charging a fee onto bricklink for fee remission.
If this is indeed factual. To date the entire thread assumes Bricklink is charged
a fee.

I’d be surprised if PayPal had an incentive to do such a thing for a “relatively”
small marketplace as that marketplace already most likely pays the same fees
as everyone else
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In General, Nubs_Select writes:
  
  Why cant Bricklink negotiate this with Paypal on behalf of its sellers? Paypal
makes a ton of money on a monthly basis off bricklink sellers in fees. Paypal
is being somewhat usurious by charging a fee onto bricklink for fee remission.
If this is indeed factual. To date the entire thread assumes Bricklink is charged
a fee.

I’d be surprised if PayPal had an incentive to do such a thing for a “relatively”
small marketplace as that marketplace already most likely pays the same fees
as everyone else

Its not a small market place as TLG online purchases are not charged on a fixed
amount fee schedule. Bricklink is owned by TLG.
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In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  Why cant Bricklink negotiate this with Paypal on behalf of its sellers?

Why would BrickLink do anything because you wish it, and probably you alone?

In 19 years here I've never heard of or read about anyone who wanted
to pay his fees half one day, half another one. Apart in this discussion of course.

And yes, it could be possible, but again BrickLink has far more important to
do than this.

VAT in Switzerland, 1st january 2025.
GST/HST in Canada.
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Millions of things are more important IMO.
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In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  Why cant Bricklink negotiate this with Paypal on behalf of its sellers?

Why would BrickLink do anything because you wish it, and probably you alone?

In 19 years here I've never heard of or read about anyone who wanted
to pay his fees half one day, half another one. Apart in this discussion of course.

And yes, it could be possible, but again BrickLink has far more important to
do than this.

VAT in Switzerland, 1st january 2025.
GST/HST in Canada.
Remove bugs in Wanted-Lists.
Ameliorate this boring nav bar.
Stats.
Millions of things are more important IMO.

I am sure the lego community is appreciative of your 19 years. Yes, some people
do have better things to do.

But do we evolve and better ourselves or sit and wait in silence? Or Fail to
try or try at failing?
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  But do we evolve and better ourselves or sit and wait in silence? Or Fail to
try or try at failing?

The truth is always somewhere in the middle of a binary proposition.
Or not.
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In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In 19 years here I've never heard of or read about anyone who wanted
to pay his fees half one day, half another one. Apart in this discussion of course.

No, to be honest, I would love to be able to pre-pay my BL fees. They could even
set a minimum amount so that they wouldn't get hit with payment processing
fees.

I'd also like to see BL accept payments (without doing away with PayPal and
Stripe) similar to eBay or Etsy so that the fees can come out automatically.
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  I'd also like to see BL accept payments (without doing away with PayPal and
Stripe) similar to eBay or Etsy so that the fees can come out automatically.

+1
I know a lot of people dislike it but for me, its one of my absolute favorite
things about ebay. having the money go to bricklink and then I get payout is
just a nicer simpler way tho id bet good money that it will never (at least not
for a long time) happen here.
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In General, Nubs_Select writes:
  
  I'd also like to see BL accept payments (without doing away with PayPal and
Stripe) similar to eBay or Etsy so that the fees can come out automatically.

+1
I know a lot of people dislike it but for me, its one of my absolute favorite
things about ebay. having the money go to bricklink and then I get payout is
just a nicer simpler way tho id bet good money that it will never (at least not
for a long time) happen here.

I remember the ruckus when Onsite / PP for Marketplaces was introduced here.
It went further than “dislike”
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In General, Nubs_Select writes:
  
  I'd also like to see BL accept payments (without doing away with PayPal and
Stripe) similar to eBay or Etsy so that the fees can come out automatically.

+1
I know a lot of people dislike it but for me, its one of my absolute favorite
things about ebay. having the money go to bricklink and then I get payout is
just a nicer simpler way tho id bet good money that it will never (at least not
for a long time) happen here.

Still puzzled. You've got a power bill, you pay when it arrives (or even
later). Is that a problem? Do you give $50 to your 7/11 shop in advance for the
next purchases this month?
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In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In General, Nubs_Select writes:
  
  I'd also like to see BL accept payments (without doing away with PayPal and
Stripe) similar to eBay or Etsy so that the fees can come out automatically.

+1
I know a lot of people dislike it but for me, its one of my absolute favorite
things about ebay. having the money go to bricklink and then I get payout is
just a nicer simpler way tho id bet good money that it will never (at least not
for a long time) happen here.

Still puzzled. You've got a power bill, you pay when it arrives (or even
later). Is that a problem? Do you give $50 to your 7/11 shop in advance for the
next purchases this month?

on ebay they take the fee out on each individual order rather than a bill at
the end of the month which is what they were referring to in that comment, no?
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In General, Nubs_Select writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In General, Nubs_Select writes:
  
  I'd also like to see BL accept payments (without doing away with PayPal and
Stripe) similar to eBay or Etsy so that the fees can come out automatically.

+1
I know a lot of people dislike it but for me, its one of my absolute favorite
things about ebay. having the money go to bricklink and then I get payout is
just a nicer simpler way tho id bet good money that it will never (at least not
for a long time) happen here.

Still puzzled. You've got a power bill, you pay when it arrives (or even
later). Is that a problem? Do you give $50 to your 7/11 shop in advance for the
next purchases this month?

on ebay they take the fee out on each individual order rather than a bill at
the end of the month which is what they were referring to in that comment, no?

Imagine the cost of doing this. They even bought PayPal!
We're not comparing the same things here.

We could also talk about free next day shipping for every order (if the seller
pays 50 bucks per month), that'd be nice, please sign me
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In General, 1001bricks writes:
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Imagine the cost of doing this. They even bought PayPal!
We're not comparing the same things here.

None.  IIUC, it’s what PayPal for Marketplaces is.  The “partner fee” can include
any fee, not only taxes, and it can be taken out on the seller’s part, not added
for the buyer to pay.
BL chose to only use the mechanism for taxes, but I think it can work that way.
(Plus forcing refunds or such… which is what caused all the ruckus when it was
implemented.)
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In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
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Imagine the cost of doing this. They even bought PayPal!
We're not comparing the same things here.

None.  IIUC, it’s what PayPal for Marketplaces is.  The “partner fee” can include
any fee, not only taxes, and it can be taken out on the seller’s part, not added
for the buyer to pay.
BL chose to only use the mechanism for taxes, but I think it can work that way.
(Plus forcing refunds or such… which is what caused all the ruckus when it was
implemented.)

So you believe say instead of making sellers pay every month at date in 1 bill
and 1 cost, BL can ask PayPal to freely take and account say 200 fees for the
month orders, freely?
Someone will pay, BL or the sellers. If BL then the sellers in the end, later
on.
And what for?

OK I give up, it's useless.

I don't care to be able to pay a random amount of the fees in advance.
Or with every transaction (but then it'll be heavy for accounting).
Happy if it's implemented, without bugs ah and freely!

Cheers!
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In General, 1001bricks writes:
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So you believe say instead of making sellers pay every month at date in 1 bill
and 1 cost, BL can ask PayPal to freely take and account say 200 fees for the
month orders, freely?

No, as Nubs said twice, it’s about taking the fee for each transaction, not monthly.

They are already doing it for the taxes, they could include it into the “partner
fee” or add another one.
It’s not exactly gratis as it was explained to us that BL is not charging us
for the service… but I don’t know if they were talking about PayPal or their
tax-handling partner.
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In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
  […]
So you believe say instead of making sellers pay every month at date in 1 bill
and 1 cost, BL can ask PayPal to freely take and account say 200 fees for the
month orders, freely?

No, as Nubs said twice, it’s about taking the fee for each transaction, not monthly.

They are already doing it for the taxes, they could include it into the “partner
fee” or add another one.
It’s not exactly gratis as it was explained to us that BL is not charging us
for the service… but I don’t know if they were talking about PayPal or their
tax-handling partner.


I have a really good shrink I have been seeing him for years.

Now would be a good time for us all to enter group therapy.
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eBay do it, but then eBay own their own processing system (at least here). Like
you, I remember the outrage when tax payments came in and before that the idea
and hysteria that having onsite PayPal might mean BL could access funds in the
account in cases of NSS and do refunds.
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In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
  […]
So you believe say instead of making sellers pay every month at date in 1 bill
and 1 cost, BL can ask PayPal to freely take and account say 200 fees for the
month orders, freely?

No, as Nubs said twice, it’s about taking the fee for each transaction, not monthly.

They are already doing it for the taxes, they could include it into the “partner
fee” or add another one.
It’s not exactly gratis as it was explained to us that BL is not charging us
for the service… but I don’t know if they were talking about PayPal or their
tax-handling partner.

We all know Nubs suffers yoghurt toxicity, he often repeats himself.
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In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
  […]
So you believe say instead of making sellers pay every month at date in 1 bill
and 1 cost, BL can ask PayPal to freely take and account say 200 fees for the
month orders, freely?

No, as Nubs said twice, it’s about taking the fee for each transaction, not monthly.

They are already doing it for the taxes, they could include it into the “partner
fee” or add another one.
It’s not exactly gratis as it was explained to us that BL is not charging us
for the service… but I don’t know if they were talking about PayPal or their
tax-handling partner.

We all know Nubs suffers yoghurt toxicity, he often repeats himself.

Is there a 1-800 number for pizza toxicity? I ate alot last night
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In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
  […]
So you believe say instead of making sellers pay every month at date in 1 bill
and 1 cost, BL can ask PayPal to freely take and account say 200 fees for the
month orders, freely?

No, as Nubs said twice, it’s about taking the fee for each transaction, not monthly.

They are already doing it for the taxes, they could include it into the “partner
fee” or add another one.
It’s not exactly gratis as it was explained to us that BL is not charging us
for the service… but I don’t know if they were talking about PayPal or their
tax-handling partner.

We all know Nubs suffers yoghurt toxicity, he often repeats himself.

Me repeat myself? I would never
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So you believe say instead of making sellers pay every month at date in 1 bill
and 1 cost, BL can ask PayPal to freely take and account say 200 fees for the
month orders, freely?

No, as Nubs said twice, it’s about taking the fee for each transaction, not monthly.

They are already doing it for the taxes, they could include it into the “partner
fee” or add another one.
It’s not exactly gratis as it was explained to us that BL is not charging us
for the service… but I don’t know if they were talking about PayPal or their
tax-handling partner.

We all know Nubs suffers yoghurt toxicity, he often repeats himself.

Me repeat myself? I would never
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In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
  […]
So you believe say instead of making sellers pay every month at date in 1 bill
and 1 cost, BL can ask PayPal to freely take and account say 200 fees for the
month orders, freely?

No, as Nubs said twice, it’s about taking the fee for each transaction, not monthly.

They are already doing it for the taxes, they could include it into the “partner
fee” or add another one.
It’s not exactly gratis as it was explained to us that BL is not charging us
for the service… but I don’t know if they were talking about PayPal or their
tax-handling partner.

We all know Nubs suffers yoghurt toxicity, he often repeats himself.

Me repeat myself? I would never
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In General, Nubs_Select writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
  […]
So you believe say instead of making sellers pay every month at date in 1 bill
and 1 cost, BL can ask PayPal to freely take and account say 200 fees for the
month orders, freely?

No, as Nubs said twice, it’s about taking the fee for each transaction, not monthly.

They are already doing it for the taxes, they could include it into the “partner
fee” or add another one.
It’s not exactly gratis as it was explained to us that BL is not charging us
for the service… but I don’t know if they were talking about PayPal or their
tax-handling partner.

We all know Nubs suffers yoghurt toxicity, he often repeats himself.

Me repeat myself? I would never

let me change that diagnosis to "acute toxicity"
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Imagine the cost of doing this. They even bought PayPal!
We're not comparing the same things here.

None.  IIUC, it’s what PayPal for Marketplaces is.  The “partner fee” can include
any fee, not only taxes, and it can be taken out on the seller’s part, not added
for the buyer to pay.
BL chose to only use the mechanism for taxes, but I think it can work that way.
(Plus forcing refunds or such… which is what caused all the ruckus when it was
implemented.)

So you believe say instead of making sellers pay every month at date in 1 bill
and 1 cost, BL can ask PayPal to freely take and account say 200 fees for the
month orders, freely?
Someone will pay, BL or the sellers. If BL then the sellers in the end, later
on.
And what for?

OK I give up, it's useless.

I don't care to be able to pay a random amount of the fees in advance.
Or with every transaction (but then it'll be heavy for accounting).
Happy if it's implemented, without bugs ah and freely!

Cheers!

Sylvain the giant slayer. Hmmm I think I need a lego set with that title
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In General, Nubs_Select writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
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  I'd also like to see BL accept payments (without doing away with PayPal and
Stripe) similar to eBay or Etsy so that the fees can come out automatically.

+1
I know a lot of people dislike it but for me, its one of my absolute favorite
things about ebay. having the money go to bricklink and then I get payout is
just a nicer simpler way tho id bet good money that it will never (at least not
for a long time) happen here.

Still puzzled. You've got a power bill, you pay when it arrives (or even
later). Is that a problem? Do you give $50 to your 7/11 shop in advance for the
next purchases this month?

on ebay they take the fee out on each individual order rather than a bill at
the end of the month which is what they were referring to in that comment, no?

Yes Nubs as much as it hurts me to say I cannot argue with you because you are
right
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In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In General, Nubs_Select writes:
  
  I'd also like to see BL accept payments (without doing away with PayPal and
Stripe) similar to eBay or Etsy so that the fees can come out automatically.

+1
I know a lot of people dislike it but for me, its one of my absolute favorite
things about ebay. having the money go to bricklink and then I get payout is
just a nicer simpler way tho id bet good money that it will never (at least not
for a long time) happen here.

Still puzzled. You've got a power bill, you pay when it arrives (or even
later). Is that a problem? Do you give $50 to your 7/11 shop in advance for the
next purchases this month?

You get a power bill call it 500. You know when its due and you know it will
be 500 obviously.

You have 300 on you today as you received the bill that is due for payment in
4 weeks. You pay 300 today because you have that extra 300 on you. you then owe
200 on that 500 bill when its due in a few weeks.

What is hard to understand about that.

Yes I do pay in advance. My monthly cell phone plan is 98.00 I give them 500
a few times a year. It gets low I top it up. But that is a totally different
thing than what I am talking about here
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In General, Nubs_Select writes:
  
  I'd also like to see BL accept payments (without doing away with PayPal and
Stripe) similar to eBay or Etsy so that the fees can come out automatically.

+1
I know a lot of people dislike it but for me, its one of my absolute favorite
things about ebay. having the money go to bricklink and then I get payout is
just a nicer simpler way tho id bet good money that it will never (at least not
for a long time) happen here.

A little less yoghurt. I had trouble understanding after the first sentence.
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In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, Nubs_Select writes:
  
  I'd also like to see BL accept payments (without doing away with PayPal and
Stripe) similar to eBay or Etsy so that the fees can come out automatically.

+1
I know a lot of people dislike it but for me, its one of my absolute favorite
things about ebay. having the money go to bricklink and then I get payout is
just a nicer simpler way tho id bet good money that it will never (at least not
for a long time) happen here.

A little less yoghurt. I had trouble understanding after the first sentence.

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In General, Nubs_Select writes:
  
  I'd also like to see BL accept payments (without doing away with PayPal and
Stripe) similar to eBay or Etsy so that the fees can come out automatically.

+1
I know a lot of people dislike it but for me, its one of my absolute favorite
things about ebay. having the money go to bricklink and then I get payout is
just a nicer simpler way tho id bet good money that it will never (at least not
for a long time) happen here.

seller will resive less NSS and less NPB in the end if they pay via BL , BL will
get more orders if you don`t see or can answer to the buyers email .
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In General, Speciale writes:
  In General, Nubs_Select writes:
  
  I'd also like to see BL accept payments (without doing away with PayPal and
Stripe) similar to eBay or Etsy so that the fees can come out automatically.

+1
I know a lot of people dislike it but for me, its one of my absolute favorite
things about ebay. having the money go to bricklink and then I get payout is
just a nicer simpler way tho id bet good money that it will never (at least not
for a long time) happen here.

seller will resive less NSS and less NPB in the end if they pay via BL , BL will
get more orders if you don`t see or can answer to the buyers email .

You have been eating Nubs yoghurt haven't you?
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  In 19 years here I've never heard of or read about anyone who wanted
to pay his fees half one day, half another one. Apart in this discussion of course.

No, to be honest, I would love to be able to pre-pay my BL fees.

Ah but OP talked about making partial pre payments.
Like paying $300 on $400 expected.

If you talk about paying say $1000 in advance, it WAS possible.
I did it a few times, yes.

Few problems I can see:
* what if BL has a problem the day after you paid your $1000, is it an acceptable
risk?
* if you pay $1000 and in the end you're missing the $0.10 remaining, your
shop is closed anyway.

So, what's the point of paying in advance?
More risk and the same result if you miss the 10 cents?

OP's talking about big numbers and can't keep $300 sleeping somewhere
on an account?

Why can't we (I guess?) pay whenever we wish, in advance and partially: power,
water, heat, internet, gas, shipping fees... why?
And especially with no %% rebate incentive - what'd be the point to do so?


  I'd also like to see BL accept payments (without doing away with PayPal and
Stripe) similar to eBay or Etsy so that the fees can come out automatically.

Remember BL is dirty cheap.

eBay - a monthly shop + how much%, like 10% (don't know)?
etsy - 0.20 + 6.5% on everything (including shipping) + $10 month for pro?

The more we're asking BL, the more they can be tempted to revise this.

Frankly I prefer the minimum service, as is.
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Why can't we (I guess?) pay whenever we wish, in advance and partially: power,
water, heat, internet, gas, shipping fees... why?

We can.

Internet: we have “no-cap” subscriptions, so the amount is exactly the same every
month.
(Well, you basically only pay the subscription, not the use… but it’s a package.)

Electricity, water, income tax (at least) are at least partly “mensualized” (apparently
not an English word).
They approximatively know how much you’ll use per year, and they divide that
by 10 or 12 and you pay the same amount every month for 10 or 12 months and the
difference is settled at the end of the year (10 months only so you don’t overpay
too much).


  And especially with no %% rebate incentive - what'd be the point to do so?

Apparently, lots of people love income tax “monthlyzation” (trying another one
).
Never subscribed to it myself.  I prefer keeping my money in a saving account
(at least) instead of putting it in someone else’s saving account

For electricity, it’s basically mandatory nowadays and it has actually always
been like this because the meters weren’t checked for each invoice (every other
invoice with an invoice every 2 months IIRC).
Now we have “communicating” meters, so checking is instant… but they still prefer
you to pay monthly
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In General, SylvainLS writes:
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Why can't we (I guess?) pay whenever we wish, in advance and partially: power,
water, heat, internet, gas, shipping fees... why?

We can.

  Internet
Electricity, water...

I know, I pay them. Then they're "subscriptions".

But OP is more like "I'll pay 30 when I decide and 10 at the end of month,
or 5 later then another 5".

You basically cannot.
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In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
  […]
Why can't we (I guess?) pay whenever we wish, in advance and partially: power,
water, heat, internet, gas, shipping fees... why?

We can.

  Internet
Electricity, water...

I know, I pay them. Then they're "subscriptions".

No, you’re paying your (bi)monthly subscription and you’re pre-paying an estimation
of your usage.
If you’re on the old bimonthly schedule and you overpay because of the estimation,
it’s deduced from the “real” invoice when the meter is checked.
If you’re on the monthly schedule and you overpay, you’re refunded at the end
of the year.
Subscriptions are not refunded.


  But OP

It’s not exactly OP (MTM), it’s G…GP (ScubaSteve), and then GP (Peregrinator).


  is more like "I'll pay 30 when I decide and 10 at the end of month,
or 5 later then another 5".

You basically cannot.
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In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
  […]
Why can't we (I guess?) pay whenever we wish, in advance and partially: power,
water, heat, internet, gas, shipping fees... why?

We can.

  Internet
Electricity, water...

I know, I pay them. Then they're "subscriptions".

No, you’re paying your (bi)monthly subscription and you’re pre-paying an estimation
of your usage.

See the use of "" in my reply?

Bye.
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  No, you’re paying your (bi)monthly subscription and you’re pre-paying an estimation
of your usage.

See the use of "" in my reply?

You can’t just bundle usage into “quote subscriptions unquote” just so you can
continue to say “we can’t pay elecricity/water/… usage in advance”
Usage is not part of the subscription and you do pay it in advance.  Therefore
your first assertion, to which I was answering, is disproven.


  Bye.

G’dnight.
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In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
  […]
Why can't we (I guess?) pay whenever we wish, in advance and partially: power,
water, heat, internet, gas, shipping fees... why?

We can.

  Internet
Electricity, water...

I know, I pay them. Then they're "subscriptions".

No, you’re paying your (bi)monthly subscription and you’re pre-paying an estimation
of your usage.
If you’re on the old bimonthly schedule and you overpay because of the estimation,
it’s deduced from the “real” invoice when the meter is checked.
If you’re on the monthly schedule and you overpay, you’re refunded at the end
of the year.
Subscriptions are not refunded.

Now we are getting closer to the truth
  

  But OP

It’s not exactly OP (MTM), it’s G…GP (ScubaSteve), and then GP (Peregrinator).


  is more like "I'll pay 30 when I decide and 10 at the end of month,
or 5 later then another 5".

You basically cannot.
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In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In General, peregrinator writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In 19 years here I've never heard of or read about anyone who wanted
to pay his fees half one day, half another one. Apart in this discussion of course.

No, to be honest, I would love to be able to pre-pay my BL fees.

Ah but OP talked about making partial pre payments.
Like paying $300 on $400 expected.

If you talk about paying say $1000 in advance, it WAS possible.
I did it a few times, yes.

Few problems I can see:
* what if BL has a problem the day after you paid your $1000, is it an acceptable
risk?
* if you pay $1000 and in the end you're missing the $0.10 remaining, your
shop is closed anyway.

So, what's the point of paying in advance?
More risk and the same result if you miss the 10 cents?

OP's talking about big numbers and can't keep $300 sleeping somewhere
on an account?

Why can't we (I guess?) pay whenever we wish, in advance and partially: power,
water, heat, internet, gas, shipping fees... why?
And especially with no %% rebate incentive - what'd be the point to do so?


  I'd also like to see BL accept payments (without doing away with PayPal and
Stripe) similar to eBay or Etsy so that the fees can come out automatically.

Remember BL is dirty cheap.

eBay - a monthly shop + how much%, like 10% (don't know)?
etsy - 0.20 + 6.5% on everything (including shipping) + $10 month for pro?

The more we're asking BL, the more they can be tempted to revise this.

Frankly I prefer the minimum service, as is.

No I did not say that

I said during the tenure of the due payment assuming it is 400 due on X date
why can't someone pay 300 week 1 and 100 when the balance of the 400 was
due.
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  Remember BL is dirty cheap.

eBay - a monthly shop + how much%, like 10% (don't know)?
etsy - 0.20 + 6.5% on everything (including shipping) + $10 month for pro?

The more we're asking BL, the more they can be tempted to revise this.

Frankly I prefer the minimum service, as is.

"BL is dirty cheap" I think that line sums it up as to why we should
all appreciate more of what we get from Bricklink for the price we pay instead
of judging them for not giving us more. What other marketplace only charges 3
percent?

Jim
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In General, TheBrickGuys writes:
  
  Remember BL is dirty cheap.

eBay - a monthly shop + how much%, like 10% (don't know)?
etsy - 0.20 + 6.5% on everything (including shipping) + $10 month for pro?

The more we're asking BL, the more they can be tempted to revise this.

Frankly I prefer the minimum service, as is.

"BL is dirty cheap" I think that line sums it up as to why we should
all appreciate more of what we get from Bricklink for the price we pay instead
of judging them for not giving us more. What other marketplace only charges 3
percent?

Jim

Jim nobody including me was saying anything bad about the fees. We all agree
they offer a value product/service in that few percent.

The debate was about when to pay and how to pay, opposed to paying 1 lump sum
on a set day. But we all agree the balance due on the due date needs to be paid.
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  I agree with all points, but I still don't see why Bricklink like many other
facilities cant offer the ability to provide the option for people to pay off
smaller amounts , however ensuring the final amount is paid in full by the due
date.

I don't work for BL's accounts team but I imagine it's that you aren't
paying an account as such, you are paying an invoice. IOW until the invoice
is issued at the beginning of the month, BL won't have anything to reconcile
the payment against. It would just be a random amount of money that has been
sent to them.

It would be the same as a buyer sending you $20 on the basis that they are going
to order parts from you in the future. You may get an order, but will have a
hell of a job working out what is paid for and what isn't.
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ScubaSteve (208)

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In General, WhiteHorseMatt writes:
  
  I agree with all points, but I still don't see why Bricklink like many other
facilities cant offer the ability to provide the option for people to pay off
smaller amounts , however ensuring the final amount is paid in full by the due
date.

I don't work for BL's accounts team but I imagine it's that you aren't
paying an account as such, you are paying an invoice. IOW until the invoice
is issued at the beginning of the month, BL won't have anything to reconcile
the payment against. It would just be a random amount of money that has been
sent to them.

It would be the same as a buyer sending you $20 on the basis that they are going
to order parts from you in the future. You may get an order, but will have a
hell of a job working out what is paid for and what isn't.

True,

Then they could offer the payment on a transactional basis. The whole refund
issue is not an argument. Every store in the world does its from a car to groceries.
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Speciale (4923)

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In General, yorbrick writes:
  
  Why cant bricklink provide an option matrix on its fee payment page on a percentage
basis. Ie remit 50% now and 50% when its due?

Because nothing is due until the invoice is issued. Sellers then have a month
to pay, followed by about 10 days warning period.

  The reason I am having this discussion is because a friend of mine who also owns
a bricklink store went through his last month. As a result he spent the funds
he had and couldn't pay his monthly bricklink fee of 300 canadian so I paid
it for him.

The friend needs to act a little more professionally. They know what fees are
due for recent transactions and when they will be due. So they need to keep that
money aside ready to pay their fees once invoiced. That is hardly something unusual
for business transactions.

for paying this BL fee I own a credit cart when I use all my paypal money . pay
the bills on time , the seller get a bill and a reminder the 5 of every mohnt
if they don`t have payd .
  

  Bricklink I feel is obliged to make the cost of business easier and more friendly
for us. Without us they dont exist. 100% people have to pay their accounts in
a timely manner, but there must be other options to assist some of the strugglers.

They do nake the cost of business easier by allowing their users to run up a
debt then pay it once per month. It would be harder to run a business if they
forced you to pay fees up front and only allowed you to sell if your current
balance covered the costs (like a pay as you go phone contract), or expect
users to pay fees every week instead of every month so they cannot build up larger
debts. They could also charge users at the time of the sale, forcing all payments
online, collecting the fee at the time the buyer pays like tax payments. But
I imagine many sellers would be against that, especially if refunds are necessary.
Or they could go to automatic billing where the user agrees to a variable subscription
and bricklink automatically charge through PayPal every month. That way, there
is no remembering to pay but problems happen when the seller such as your friend
does not have the money in their account and their backup credit card or bank
account gets charged.

If people are struggling to pay their fees and fail to do it within a month,
then it is best to stop them running up more fees until they pay them off. They
already get a month from the invoice. If their transactions are relatively steady,
then at 3% fees that accounts to one day of transactions being enough income
to pay the fees. So having a full month to pay should give any active seller
enough time to generate enough income to cover the fees bill for the previous
month.
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1001bricks (55553)

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In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, RebelliousBrick writes:
Ok so the 2 answers put together make a little more sense. So a person could
not make 2-4 payments to pay bricklink fees because they would have to use paypal
and paypal would charge 3 or 4 times .50? (1.50-2.00).

You learn quickly but it takes a long time to explain you


  Is that the reason you are suggesting why a person cant pay a partial amount
to ensure they are complying with Bricklinks fees schedules?

It's ONE of the reasons.

Suppose I owe $10 and pay in 5 times for a total of $0.5 = $2.5 PayPal fees for
BrickLink, few remain to them.

Then the accounting complexity - like any company BrickLink has to explain every
transaction, when there's a $10 fee and a $10 payment it's easy.
But if there's $10 then $3.37 and $2.13 and 4.50 it becomes more complex,
and could have to be done manually by an accoutant.

Plus ten of other reasons probably.
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ScubaSteve (208)

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In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, RebelliousBrick writes:
Ok so the 2 answers put together make a little more sense. So a person could
not make 2-4 payments to pay bricklink fees because they would have to use paypal
and paypal would charge 3 or 4 times .50? (1.50-2.00).

You learn quickly but it takes a long time to explain you


  Is that the reason you are suggesting why a person cant pay a partial amount
to ensure they are complying with Bricklinks fees schedules?

It's ONE of the reasons.

Suppose I owe $10 and pay in 5 times for a total of $0.5 = $2.5 PayPal fees for
BrickLink, few remain to them.

Then the accounting complexity - like any company BrickLink has to explain every
transaction, when there's a $10 fee and a $10 payment it's easy.
But if there's $10 then $3.37 and $2.13 and 4.50 it becomes more complex,
and could have to be done manually by an accoutant.

Plus ten of other reasons probably.

LMAO!. Like an old computer sometimes you have to punch the information in.

But I am talking about people that have much larger accounts due, not 10 bucks.
God, if you cant pay 10 bucks you are a liability to buyers/sellers/bricklink
and your own stress levels and should close up shop.

Bricklink does not have to explain every transaction if it is offering during
the tenure an option of paying 25/50%. This could also be limited to 1 transaction,
this could also be a service only offered to people who have an account over
100.00 for example.
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rab1234 (2683)

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In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, RebelliousBrick writes:
Ok so the 2 answers put together make a little more sense. So a person could
not make 2-4 payments to pay bricklink fees because they would have to use paypal
and paypal would charge 3 or 4 times .50? (1.50-2.00).

You learn quickly but it takes a long time to explain you


  Is that the reason you are suggesting why a person cant pay a partial amount
to ensure they are complying with Bricklinks fees schedules?

It's ONE of the reasons.

Suppose I owe $10 and pay in 5 times for a total of $0.5 = $2.5 PayPal fees for
BrickLink, few remain to them.

Then the accounting complexity - like any company BrickLink has to explain every
transaction, when there's a $10 fee and a $10 payment it's easy.
But if there's $10 then $3.37 and $2.13 and 4.50 it becomes more complex,
and could have to be done manually by an accoutant.

Plus ten of other reasons probably.

LMAO!. Like an old computer sometimes you have to punch the information in.

But I am talking about people that have much larger accounts due, not 10 bucks.
God, if you cant pay 10 bucks you are a liability to buyers/sellers/bricklink
and your own stress levels and should close up shop.

Bricklink does not have to explain every transaction if it is offering during
the tenure an option of paying 25/50%. This could also be limited to 1 transaction,
this could also be a service only offered to people who have an account over
100.00 for example.

I don't understand this response. I do agree with your first comment: "If
you can't pay 10 bucks you are a liability to buyers"... but then you
essentially say if you can't pay $100 it's normal and expected?

If your monthly fee is $100, you should have sold plenty during the month to
have put aside $100 to pay your bill. If your fee is $1,000, you should have
that money available to pay your bill. You can see how much you owe at any time
and any way you look at it, if you can't pay Bricklink, you probably also
don't have enough money to issue a refund if a set arrives damaged or incomplete
or a buyer wants to return a purchase and get a full refund. Bricklink selling
is just a fun hobby for me, but I leave about 10 times my average monthly BL
fee in Paypal to cover anything unexpected.
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In General, rab1234 writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, RebelliousBrick writes:
Ok so the 2 answers put together make a little more sense. So a person could
not make 2-4 payments to pay bricklink fees because they would have to use paypal
and paypal would charge 3 or 4 times .50? (1.50-2.00).

You learn quickly but it takes a long time to explain you


  Is that the reason you are suggesting why a person cant pay a partial amount
to ensure they are complying with Bricklinks fees schedules?

It's ONE of the reasons.

Suppose I owe $10 and pay in 5 times for a total of $0.5 = $2.5 PayPal fees for
BrickLink, few remain to them.

Then the accounting complexity - like any company BrickLink has to explain every
transaction, when there's a $10 fee and a $10 payment it's easy.
But if there's $10 then $3.37 and $2.13 and 4.50 it becomes more complex,
and could have to be done manually by an accoutant.

Plus ten of other reasons probably.

LMAO!. Like an old computer sometimes you have to punch the information in.

But I am talking about people that have much larger accounts due, not 10 bucks.
God, if you cant pay 10 bucks you are a liability to buyers/sellers/bricklink
and your own stress levels and should close up shop.

Bricklink does not have to explain every transaction if it is offering during
the tenure an option of paying 25/50%. This could also be limited to 1 transaction,
this could also be a service only offered to people who have an account over
100.00 for example.

I don't understand this response. I do agree with your first comment: "If
you can't pay 10 bucks you are a liability to buyers"... but then you
essentially say if you can't pay $100 it's normal and expected?

If your monthly fee is $100, you should have sold plenty during the month to
have put aside $100 to pay your bill. If your fee is $1,000, you should have
that money available to pay your bill. You can see how much you owe at any time
and any way you look at it, if you can't pay Bricklink, you probably also
don't have enough money to issue a refund if a set arrives damaged or incomplete
or a buyer wants to return a purchase and get a full refund. Bricklink selling
is just a fun hobby for me, but I leave about 10 times my average monthly BL
fee in Paypal to cover anything unexpected.

Look Mr come late to school. Read it all before you pass comment. It has nothing
to do with me paying my fees.

It also has nothing to do with what you or anyone else does. Its about providing
others an option rather demanding 1 payment on a specific date.My fees are always
paid on time and are a lot more than 100.00.
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SylvainLS (52)

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In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  […]
Look Mr come late to school. Read it all before you pass comment. It has nothing
to do with me paying my fees.

It also has nothing to do with what you or anyone else does. Its about providing
others an option rather demanding 1 payment on a specific date.My fees are always
paid on time and are a lot more than 100.00.

There’s a ‘generic you’ in English that many people, including rab1234, used
in this thread.
You don’t need to take it all personally and become agressive every time.
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rab1234 (2683)

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Correct. “The reader” can replace “you” with “a seller” if it helps “the reader”
to not get confused with the intended meaning.



In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  […]
Look Mr come late to school. Read it all before you pass comment. It has nothing
to do with me paying my fees.

It also has nothing to do with what you or anyone else does. Its about providing
others an option rather demanding 1 payment on a specific date.My fees are always
paid on time and are a lot more than 100.00.

There’s a ‘generic you’ in English that many people, including rab1234, used
in this thread.
You don’t need to take it all personally and become agressive every time.
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ScubaSteve (208)

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In General, rab1234 writes:
  Correct. “The reader” can replace “you” with “a seller” if it helps “the reader”
to not get confused with the intended meaning.



In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  […]
Look Mr come late to school. Read it all before you pass comment. It has nothing
to do with me paying my fees.

It also has nothing to do with what you or anyone else does. Its about providing
others an option rather demanding 1 payment on a specific date.My fees are always
paid on time and are a lot more than 100.00.

There’s a ‘generic you’ in English that many people, including rab1234, used
in this thread.
You don’t need to take it all personally and become agressive every time.

To be entirely fair with you, we dont know each other.

I do also suffer from C-PTSD and a couple of others I wont mention so I can blow
up quickly and am very OCD about some things.

I wasnt deliberately trying to be nasty to you. I come off like that sometimes.
I apologize.

Oh god that hurt!
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In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  […]
Look Mr come late to school. Read it all before you pass comment. It has nothing
to do with me paying my fees.

It also has nothing to do with what you or anyone else does. Its about providing
others an option rather demanding 1 payment on a specific date.My fees are always
paid on time and are a lot more than 100.00.

There’s a ‘generic you’ in English that many people, including rab1234, used
in this thread.
You don’t need to take it all personally and become agressive every time.

There is also a generic "the, those & fee" in that same thread....just
saying......
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In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  Similarly, you cannot make multiple payments. Each one attracts fees. Would you
want a buyer to pay you $50 in 100 separate 50c transactions?

I don't think you quite understand what I am saying.

What I was saying is that if I had 400 due in 3 weeks time (which is factual)
and I had a random 300 sitting in a paypal account, why could I not make a partial
payment for no other reason than I wanted to pay 300.00 WHICH IS NOT DUE.

Apparently YOU don't understand what yorbrick is saying.

If PayPal *base* fees are say $0.50, then for 1 payment BrickLink would pay $0.50
to PayPal, but for 2 payments BrickLink would pay $1.00, etc.

So BrickLink accepts only ONE payment.

PS: you're not obliged to display actual amounts.

What are you talking about ? Paypal? I am talking about Bricklink fees, Paypal
is wholly irrelevant to the conversation.

If I owed bricklink money and that money was due in several weeks time, why cant
a person make several payments to ensure the balance owed by the 4th day of the
month was paid in full.

This is nothing to do with Paypal.

This amount owed is based on the previous month of trading. Its an amount owed
and previously billed by bricklink.

What are you talking about?

PayPal is what use many.
Otherwise it's Stripe.

Same problem: the base fees.


(plus many others, like risk of error, complicated accounting...)
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In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In General, ScubaSteve writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  Similarly, you cannot make multiple payments. Each one attracts fees. Would you
want a buyer to pay you $50 in 100 separate 50c transactions?

I don't think you quite understand what I am saying.

What I was saying is that if I had 400 due in 3 weeks time (which is factual)
and I had a random 300 sitting in a paypal account, why could I not make a partial
payment for no other reason than I wanted to pay 300.00 WHICH IS NOT DUE.

Apparently YOU don't understand what yorbrick is saying.

If PayPal *base* fees are say $0.50, then for 1 payment BrickLink would pay $0.50
to PayPal, but for 2 payments BrickLink would pay $1.00, etc.

So BrickLink accepts only ONE payment.

PS: you're not obliged to display actual amounts.

What are you talking about ? Paypal? I am talking about Bricklink fees, Paypal
is wholly irrelevant to the conversation.

If I owed bricklink money and that money was due in several weeks time, why cant
a person make several payments to ensure the balance owed by the 4th day of the
month was paid in full.

This is nothing to do with Paypal.

This amount owed is based on the previous month of trading. Its an amount owed
and previously billed by bricklink.

What are you talking about?

PayPal is what use many.
Otherwise it's Stripe.

Same problem: the base fees.


(plus many others, like risk of error, complicated accounting...)

I get what you are saying, and I did just try and experiment to pay a partial
amount using my debit card and not paypal.

Im not sure I like what you are saying about the risk of accounting A-B always
=C.

Most of us have personal accounts. I personally don't have credit.

I will always pay my accounts in full in a timely manner, many others have problems
and I would think they would like the option to be able to pay partial amounts
during the month to be able to have the account paid in full when its due.

As for the argument that Bricklink would have to eat a .50cent fee to recover
100.00 really is a special kind of a dumb commercial practice by Bricklink.

But it is also a special kind of dumb for paypal to impose that on Bricklink,
if it indeed is? Paypal makes its share from Bricklink transactions.

Bricklink should re negotiate a fee free practice for any payments made to them
or eat that .50 to support its buyers and sellers.
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Hi guys,

thanks for your feedback and the discussion in this thread

Of course, I understand, that I have to pay all costs and fees as fast as possible
- and normally, I'll do this.
Bricklink fees are a little bit different, because for me, I didn't understand,
at what time I had to pay them.
There's no monthly day, or a regular period.
I'll just pay my fees when BL tells me so. However, there is no regularity.
Because of this and because of the new design of the page, I guess, I didn't
noticed BL's note in the top.

But this isn't my main problem. For me, it's okay, if BL suspended not-paying
stores.

But:
Now I paid the fees, but they are lost in the nirvana. Where are my 18 + 33 Euro?
And why isn't it possible for the store to reopen automatically after payment?

I lose orders (and money) and BL loses the fees for them.

MTM


In General, MTM writes:
  Hello,

I have a problem:
My store was suspended from Bricklink because I didn't pay my fees.
The problem is: I forgot it first, but I paid it one hour after deadline. I also
paid it a twice time some hours later, but Bricklink didn't notice.
My profile still says I haven't paid any fees.

I also wrote to Bricklink but don't get a response.
How long does it typically take the problem center team to resolve an issue like
this?

Micah

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  There's no monthly day, or a regular period.

4th/5th of the month, every month.

If you don't hit $10, the fee rolls over until you do or until the end of
their accounting year.
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In General, yorbrick writes:
  
  There's no monthly day, or a regular period.

4th/5th of the month, every month.

If you don't hit $10, the fee rolls over until you do or until the end of
their accounting year.

In the USA (and perhaps other places), it's $5.
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In General, peregrinator writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  
  There's no monthly day, or a regular period.

4th/5th of the month, every month.

If you don't hit $10, the fee rolls over until you do or until the end of
their accounting year.

In the USA (and perhaps other places), it's $5.

Germany is not in the USA. I checked their location before responding to them.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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peregrinator (1089)

Location:  USA, New Jersey
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In General, yorbrick writes:
  In General, peregrinator writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  
  There's no monthly day, or a regular period.

4th/5th of the month, every month.

If you don't hit $10, the fee rolls over until you do or until the end of
their accounting year.

In the USA (and perhaps other places), it's $5.

Germany is not in the USA. I checked their location before responding to them.

Sorry, I assumed you were using the general you and not responding to the OP
specifically.
 Author: RebelliousBrick View Messages Posted By RebelliousBrick
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RebelliousBrick (28)

Location:  Canada, Alberta
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In General, peregrinator writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  
  There's no monthly day, or a regular period.

4th/5th of the month, every month.

If you don't hit $10, the fee rolls over until you do or until the end of
their accounting year.

In the USA (and perhaps other places), it's $5.

Only in the US, the rest of the world is $10
 Author: ScubaSteve View Messages Posted By ScubaSteve
 Posted: Jan 17, 2025 14:16
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ScubaSteve (208)

Location:  Canada, Alberta
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In General, peregrinator writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  
  There's no monthly day, or a regular period.

4th/5th of the month, every month.

If you don't hit $10, the fee rolls over until you do or until the end of
their accounting year.

In the USA (and perhaps other places), it's $5.

I have no idea what it is as I do ok for myself on this and other platforms.

I do get charged in USD and not Canadian $