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 Author: SirIceCream1001 View Messages Posted By SirIceCream1001
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SirIceCream1001 (780)

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Can anyone verify that the red and light bluish gray parts are fake?
Thanks SirIceCreamMansBrixNFigs
 
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As far as I know, based on my own sets from the 70's and 80's, the original
minifigure tanks all had the "neck-nubs" on the hoop. I've actually
never seen any without the nubs.
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In Catalog Identification, judsonr writes:
  As far as I know, based on my own sets from the 70's and 80's, the original
minifigure tanks all had the "neck-nubs" on the hoop. I've actually
never seen any without the nubs.

NUBS!
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In Catalog Identification, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Catalog Identification, judsonr writes:
  As far as I know, based on my own sets from the 70's and 80's, the original
minifigure tanks all had the "neck-nubs" on the hoop. I've actually
never seen any without the nubs.

NUBS!

 
Minifig No: sw1322 Name: Nubs
* 		sw1322 (Inv) Nubs
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Young Jedi Adventures
NUBS!!!
 Author: paulvdb View Messages Posted By paulvdb
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In Catalog Identification, judsonr writes:
  As far as I know, based on my own sets from the 70's and 80's, the original
minifigure tanks all had the "neck-nubs" on the hoop. I've actually
never seen any without the nubs.

I have seen some without those neck nubs in my very earliest classic space sets.
So the absence of the nubs doesn't mean that they are fake.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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In Catalog Identification, paulvdb writes:
  In Catalog Identification, judsonr writes:
  As far as I know, based on my own sets from the 70's and 80's, the original
minifigure tanks all had the "neck-nubs" on the hoop. I've actually
never seen any without the nubs.

I have seen some without those neck nubs in my very earliest classic space sets.
So the absence of the nubs doesn't mean that they are fake.

I was very surprised by this because I had most of the earliest classic space
sets and I don't remember any airtanks w/o nubs but it appears to be true!
Page 50 of the Legoland Idea Book 6000:
 
 Author: SirIceCream1001 View Messages Posted By SirIceCream1001
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In Catalog Identification, peregrinator writes:
  In Catalog Identification, paulvdb writes:
  In Catalog Identification, judsonr writes:
  As far as I know, based on my own sets from the 70's and 80's, the original
minifigure tanks all had the "neck-nubs" on the hoop. I've actually
never seen any without the nubs.

I have seen some without those neck nubs in my very earliest classic space sets.
So the absence of the nubs doesn't mean that they are fake.

I was very surprised by this because I had most of the earliest classic space
sets and I don't remember any airtanks w/o nubs but it appears to be true!
Page 50 of the Legoland Idea Book 6000:

So the 2 red ones are genuine
But what about the light grayish on?
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  So the 2 red ones are genuine

With those giant sprue marks? I'm not too sure of that
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In Catalog Identification, paulvdb writes:
  In Catalog Identification, judsonr writes:
  As far as I know, based on my own sets from the 70's and 80's, the original
minifigure tanks all had the "neck-nubs" on the hoop. I've actually
never seen any without the nubs.

I have seen some without those neck nubs in my very earliest classic space sets.
So the absence of the nubs doesn't mean that they are fake.

An absence of the Nubs would be really terrible
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
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In Catalog Identification, 1001bricks writes:
  In Catalog Identification, paulvdb writes:
  In Catalog Identification, judsonr writes:
  As far as I know, based on my own sets from the 70's and 80's, the original
minifigure tanks all had the "neck-nubs" on the hoop. I've actually
never seen any without the nubs.

I have seen some without those neck nubs in my very earliest classic space sets.
So the absence of the nubs doesn't mean that they are fake.

An absence of the Nubs would be really terrible

Indeed
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
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as it dosnt exist in light bluish gray its 100% fake unless its actually light
gray
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In Catalog Identification, Nubs_Select writes:
  as it dosnt exist in light bluish gray its 100% fake unless its actually light
gray

Have you seen any white out the nubs Nubs?
Light bluish gray on the bottom
Light gray on top
 
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 Author: SirIceCream1001 View Messages Posted By SirIceCream1001
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In Catalog Identification, Nubs_Select writes:
  100% not lego

Same with the red?
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In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Nubs_Select writes:
  100% not lego

Same with the red?

now I'm not 100% sure anymore 😅
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In Catalog Identification, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Nubs_Select writes:
  100% not lego

Same with the red?

now I'm not 100% sure anymore 😅

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In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Nubs_Select writes:
  100% not lego

Same with the red?

now I'm not 100% sure anymore 😅



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjvQFtlNQ-M
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In Catalog Identification, 1001bricks writes:
  In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Nubs_Select writes:
  100% not lego

Same with the red?

now I'm not 100% sure anymore 😅



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjvQFtlNQ-M

Oh, the tankless humor of some
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In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Nubs_Select writes:
  as it dosnt exist in light bluish gray its 100% fake unless its actually light
gray

Have you seen any white out the nubs Nubs?
Light bluish gray on the bottom
Light gray on top

I'd have to pull some older air tanks out and look at them but I don't
recall seeing that prominent of a sprue mark on them.
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In Catalog Identification, peregrinator writes:
  In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Nubs_Select writes:
  as it dosnt exist in light bluish gray its 100% fake unless its actually light
gray

Have you seen any white out the nubs Nubs?
Light bluish gray on the bottom
Light gray on top

I'd have to pull some older air tanks out and look at them but I don't
recall seeing that prominent of a sprue mark on them.

No obvious sprue marks at all on any of them (but also none without nubs ...
we used to be a proper country).
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In Catalog Identification, peregrinator writes:
  No obvious sprue marks at all on any of them (but also none without nubs ...
we used to be a proper country).

OK, so I pulled out my copy of the Legoland Idea Book

 
Book No: 6000 Name: Idea Book 6000, Legoland
* 		6000 (Inv) Idea Book 6000, Legoland
Books: Idea Book

and I can confirm (contrary to what I previously thought) that old air tanks
(without nubs) do indeed have a sprue mark on the right (looking at the back
as they would be worn on a minifigure) tank, in the spot where it's shown
in the OP.
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In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Nubs_Select writes:
  as it dosnt exist in light bluish gray its 100% fake unless its actually light
gray

Have you seen any white out the nubs Nubs?
Light bluish gray on the bottom
Light gray on top

The tanks ARE a Lego color.
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In Catalog Identification, edk writes:
  In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Nubs_Select writes:
  as it dosnt exist in light bluish gray its 100% fake unless its actually light
gray

Have you seen any white out the nubs Nubs?
Light bluish gray on the bottom
Light gray on top

The tanks ARE a Lego color.

But which one?
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In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, edk writes:
  In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Nubs_Select writes:
  as it dosnt exist in light bluish gray its 100% fake unless its actually light
gray

Have you seen any white out the nubs Nubs?
Light bluish gray on the bottom
Light gray on top

The tanks ARE a Lego color.

But which one?

It's not a recognized color just a color variation of LG as I had mentioned.
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In Catalog Identification, edk writes:
  In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, edk writes:
  In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Nubs_Select writes:
  as it dosnt exist in light bluish gray its 100% fake unless its actually light
gray

Have you seen any white out the nubs Nubs?
Light bluish gray on the bottom
Light gray on top

The tanks ARE a Lego color.

But which one?

It's not a recognized color just a color variation of LG as I had mentioned.

Would I list it like this?
https://store.bricklink.com/Brickitty?itemID=419227086#/shop?o=%7B%22invID%22:%22419227086%22%7D
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In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, edk writes:
  In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, edk writes:
  In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Nubs_Select writes:
  as it dosnt exist in light bluish gray its 100% fake unless its actually light
gray

Have you seen any white out the nubs Nubs?
Light bluish gray on the bottom
Light gray on top

The tanks ARE a Lego color.

But which one?

It's not a recognized color just a color variation of LG as I had mentioned.

Would I list it like this?
https://store.bricklink.com/Brickitty?itemID=419227086#/shop?o=%7B%22invID%22:%22419227086%22%7D

I would use an actual image (if possible) of the tanks rather than the stock
image. One person said he did not know of the tanks in this color. I don't
recall if I have ever had them but have had many of the 1x1 plate w/clip in that
color.
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In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  Would I list it like this?
https://store.bricklink.com/Brickitty?itemID=419227086#/shop?o=%7B%22invID%22:%22419227086%22%7D

Yes, I think so.
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In Catalog Identification, edk writes:
  In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, edk writes:
  In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Nubs_Select writes:
  as it dosnt exist in light bluish gray its 100% fake unless its actually light
gray

Have you seen any white out the nubs Nubs?
Light bluish gray on the bottom
Light gray on top

The tanks ARE a Lego color.

But which one?

It's not a recognized color just a color variation of LG as I had mentioned.


I believe it is made of nylon and was only used for a few parts as a test (the
clip and air tanks being in that small group).
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  In Catalog Identification, edk writes:
  In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, edk writes:
  In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Nubs_Select writes:
  as it dosnt exist in light bluish gray its 100% fake unless its actually light
gray

Have you seen any white out the nubs Nubs?
Light bluish gray on the bottom
Light gray on top

The tanks ARE a Lego color.

But which one?

It's not a recognized color just a color variation of LG as I had mentioned.

I believe it is made of nylon

Where is John P. stating something wacky about nylon usage?
 
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edk (9512)

Location:  USA, Michigan
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In Catalog Identification, Nubs_Select writes:
  as it dosnt exist in light bluish gray its 100% fake unless its actually light
gray

There is a color variation of light gray that the 1x1 modified plates w/clip
were made in. Much darker than LG or LBG, matches that airtank.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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peregrinator (1090)

Location:  USA, New Jersey
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In Catalog Identification, edk writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Nubs_Select writes:
  as it dosnt exist in light bluish gray its 100% fake unless its actually light
gray

There is a color variation of light gray that the 1x1 modified plates w/clip
were made in. Much darker than LG or LBG, matches that airtank.

That's true but as far as I know the air tanks were never made in that color
(nor was anything else apart from those plates w/clip).
 Author: SirIceCream1001 View Messages Posted By SirIceCream1001
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SirIceCream1001 (780)

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In Catalog Identification, edk writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Nubs_Select writes:
  as it dosnt exist in light bluish gray its 100% fake unless its actually light
gray

There is a color variation of light gray that the 1x1 modified plates w/clip
were made in. Much darker than LG or LBG, matches that airtank.

🤔 hmmmm
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
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Nubs_Select (4756)

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In Catalog Identification, edk writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Nubs_Select writes:
  as it dosnt exist in light bluish gray its 100% fake unless its actually light
gray

There is a color variation of light gray that the 1x1 modified plates w/clip
were made in. Much darker than LG or LBG, matches that airtank.

Interesting! I never knew that. Looking back over the years a couple of those
may have ended up in my fake container (garbage can)
 Author: rainbowmist View Messages Posted By rainbowmist
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rainbowmist (1516)

Location:  USA, Michigan
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In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  Can anyone verify that the red and light bluish gray parts are fake?
Thanks SirIceCreamMansBrixNFigs

I also have one in light gray without the nubs. Got it in a LEGO lot a few years
ago. Had many vintage space parts in the lot. Not sure who else made these air
tanks in the 1970s 1980s.
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SirIceCream1001 (780)

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In Catalog Identification, rainbowmist writes:
  In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  Can anyone verify that the red and light bluish gray parts are fake?
Thanks SirIceCreamMansBrixNFigs

I also have one in light gray without the nubs. Got it in a LEGO lot a few years
ago. Had many vintage space parts in the lot. Not sure who else made these air
tanks in the 1970s 1980s.

Is it in between colors or very clearly light gray?
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rainbowmist (1516)

Location:  USA, Michigan
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In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, rainbowmist writes:
  In Catalog Identification, SirIceCream1001 writes:
  Can anyone verify that the red and light bluish gray parts are fake?
Thanks SirIceCreamMansBrixNFigs

I also have one in light gray without the nubs. Got it in a LEGO lot a few years
ago. Had many vintage space parts in the lot. Not sure who else made these air
tanks in the 1970s 1980s.

Is it in between colors or very clearly light gray?

It is more of the darker light gray variant. Not bluish gray. Can't get a
good picture but it has the sprue mark on one of the tanks.