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 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Feb 4, 2024 18:26
 Subject: Next Part Variant Merges
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StormChaser (566)

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I would like to suggest these for the next round of part merges:

 
Part No: 6015  Name: Tire 21mm D. x 12mm - Offset Tread Small Wide
* 
6015 Tire 21mm D. x 12mm - Offset Tread Small Wide
Parts: Wheel, Tire & Tread
 
Part No: 87697  Name: Tire 21mm D. x 12mm - Offset Tread Small Wide, Band Around Center of Tread
* 
87697 Tire 21mm D. x 12mm - Offset Tread Small Wide, Band Around Center of Tread
Parts: Wheel, Tire & Tread
 
Part No: 60700  Name: Tire 21mm D. x 12mm - Offset Tread Small Wide, Raised Groove
* 
60700 Tire 21mm D. x 12mm - Offset Tread Small Wide, Raised Groove
Parts: Wheel, Tire & Tread

They seem like pretty useless distinctions.

I would also like to suggest something the site should have done before even
considering merging anything. The site should have made it quite
clear in writing in the catalog help pages what is an acceptable variant for
this website and what is not.

Otherwise, it's just up to the whim of whomever is deciding, which is no
way to run a business.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Feb 4, 2024 18:33
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1001bricks (52273)

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  They seem like pretty useless distinctions.

100% agree with you!


  I would also like to suggest something the site should have done before even
considering merging anything. The site should have made it quite
clear in writing in the catalog help pages what is an acceptable variant for
this website and what is not.

Problem is; it's not only a Catalog decision - which Inventory/Catalog people
could help on - but also worldwide stats all time, if it's worth or not,
which is something we've no clue.

So I guess it'll be a decision from up above, case by case, or like category
by category?
 Author: RecycledBrick View Messages Posted By RecycledBrick
 Posted: Feb 4, 2024 18:53
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 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Feb 4, 2024 18:54
 Subject: Re: Next Part Variant Merges
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In General, RecycledBrick writes:
  This is one that I ran into recently and took me a bit to see the difference

 
Part No: 99206  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side
* 
99206 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side
Parts: Plate, Modified {Light Bluish Gray}
 
Part No: 4304  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side - Hollow Bottom Tube
* 
4304 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side - Hollow Bottom Tube
Parts: Plate, Modified {Light Bluish Gray}

They don't have the same color.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Feb 4, 2024 19:05
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In General, RecycledBrick writes:
  This is one that I ran into recently and took me a bit to see the difference

 
Part No: 99206  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side
* 
99206 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side
Parts: Plate, Modified {Light Bluish Gray}
 
Part No: 4304  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side - Hollow Bottom Tube
* 
4304 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side - Hollow Bottom Tube
Parts: Plate, Modified {Light Bluish Gray}

Functionally different: https://www.newelementary.com/2023/08/lego-brickheadz-sonic-review-sets-40627.html
 Author: Andy_Bell View Messages Posted By Andy_Bell
 Posted: Feb 5, 2024 08:20
 Subject: Re: Next Part Variant Merges
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In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, RecycledBrick writes:
  This is one that I ran into recently and took me a bit to see the difference

 
Part No: 99206  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side
* 
99206 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side
Parts: Plate, Modified {Light Bluish Gray}
 
Part No: 4304  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side - Hollow Bottom Tube
* 
4304 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side - Hollow Bottom Tube
Parts: Plate, Modified {Light Bluish Gray}

Functionally different: https://www.newelementary.com/2023/08/lego-brickheadz-sonic-review-sets-40627.html

I appreciate the effort but those pictures taken on a soft surface are not very
helpful to show a very minor (if important part variant). Would be nice to have
decent pictures in the catalog.

I don't have both variants but if nothing shows up. I will make one later
in the month.

I might add those tires large images are very nice. This one not bad either...
if I don't say so myself.

 
Part No: 2609b  Name: Magnet Holder Tile 2 x 2 - Tall Arms with Deep Notch
* 
2609b Magnet Holder Tile 2 x 2 - Tall Arms with Deep Notch
Parts: Magnet {Black}

AB
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Feb 5, 2024 10:04
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In General, Andy_Bell writes:
  In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, RecycledBrick writes:
  This is one that I ran into recently and took me a bit to see the difference

 
Part No: 99206  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side
* 
99206 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side
Parts: Plate, Modified {Light Bluish Gray}
 
Part No: 4304  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side - Hollow Bottom Tube
* 
4304 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side - Hollow Bottom Tube
Parts: Plate, Modified {Light Bluish Gray}

Functionally different: https://www.newelementary.com/2023/08/lego-brickheadz-sonic-review-sets-40627.html

I appreciate the effort but those pictures taken on a soft surface are not very
helpful to show a very minor (if important part variant). Would be nice to have
decent pictures in the catalog.

I don't have both variants but if nothing shows up. I will make one later
in the month.

I might add those tires large images are very nice. This one not bad either...
if I don't say so myself.

 
Part No: 2609b  Name: Magnet Holder Tile 2 x 2 - Tall Arms with Deep Notch
* 
2609b Magnet Holder Tile 2 x 2 - Tall Arms with Deep Notch
Parts: Magnet {Black}

AB

What's wrong with the current comparison image for these?
 
Part No: 99206  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side
* 
99206 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side
Parts: Plate, Modified {Light Bluish Gray}
 
Part No: 4304  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side - Hollow Bottom Tube
* 
4304 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side - Hollow Bottom Tube
Parts: Plate, Modified {Light Bluish Gray}

Or I am misunderstanding the parts your referring to?
~Jen
 Author: Andy_Bell View Messages Posted By Andy_Bell
 Posted: Feb 5, 2024 15:16
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In General, jennnifer writes:
  In General, Andy_Bell writes:
  In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, RecycledBrick writes:
  This is one that I ran into recently and took me a bit to see the difference

 
Part No: 99206  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side
* 
99206 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side
Parts: Plate, Modified {Light Bluish Gray}
 
Part No: 4304  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side - Hollow Bottom Tube
* 
4304 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side - Hollow Bottom Tube
Parts: Plate, Modified {Light Bluish Gray}

Functionally different: https://www.newelementary.com/2023/08/lego-brickheadz-sonic-review-sets-40627.html

I appreciate the effort but those pictures taken on a soft surface are not very
helpful to show a very minor (if important part variant). Would be nice to have
decent pictures in the catalog.

I don't have both variants but if nothing shows up. I will make one later
in the month.

I might add those tires large images are very nice. This one not bad either...
if I don't say so myself.

 
Part No: 2609b  Name: Magnet Holder Tile 2 x 2 - Tall Arms with Deep Notch
* 
2609b Magnet Holder Tile 2 x 2 - Tall Arms with Deep Notch
Parts: Magnet {Black}

AB

What's wrong with the current comparison image for these?
 
Part No: 99206  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side
* 
99206 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side
Parts: Plate, Modified {Light Bluish Gray}
 
Part No: 4304  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side - Hollow Bottom Tube
* 
4304 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Studs on Side - Hollow Bottom Tube
Parts: Plate, Modified {Light Bluish Gray}

Or I am misunderstanding the parts your referring to?
~Jen

As shown - you can see the slight molding difference in the bottom, but this
is insignificant and does not effect function.

The studs on the face are placed at slightly different heights.

From the images you would not guess, that other than cosmetically, the parts
are not interchangeable (in some uses).


from the newelementary article


Lining up the 2 versions, you can see that because the studs are set slightly
higher, a sliver of the underside of the new one sticks out when placed on the
edge of a plate.

and

Furthermore, the sliver is tiny but big enough to cause a collision when the
new 4304 is used for its original purpose as a stud-reverser, shown above in
Blue and Yellow. So while solving one issue, the new element causes a new issue
in return.


AB
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Feb 5, 2024 17:07
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The catalog image shows how to easily separate the two variants. That is very
useful.

An additional image and catalog note to explain why the difference is important
could help the catalog. The parts look alike, but were designed for different
purposes.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
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In General, StormChaser writes:
  I would like to suggest these for the next round of part merges:

 
Part No: 6015  Name: Tire 21mm D. x 12mm - Offset Tread Small Wide
* 
6015 Tire 21mm D. x 12mm - Offset Tread Small Wide
Parts: Wheel, Tire & Tread
 
Part No: 87697  Name: Tire 21mm D. x 12mm - Offset Tread Small Wide, Band Around Center of Tread
* 
87697 Tire 21mm D. x 12mm - Offset Tread Small Wide, Band Around Center of Tread
Parts: Wheel, Tire & Tread
 
Part No: 60700  Name: Tire 21mm D. x 12mm - Offset Tread Small Wide, Raised Groove
* 
60700 Tire 21mm D. x 12mm - Offset Tread Small Wide, Raised Groove
Parts: Wheel, Tire & Tread

They seem like pretty useless distinctions.

I would also like to suggest something the site should have done before even
considering merging anything. The site should have made it quite
clear in writing in the catalog help pages what is an acceptable variant for
this website and what is not.

Otherwise, it's just up to the whim of whomever is deciding, which is no
way to run a business.

Sadly, I got no response earlier.
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=353137&nID=1451025