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| | | Author: | Anje572  | | Posted: | Jan 31, 2024 14:23 | | Subject: | Fake or real? | | Viewed: | 220 times | | Topic: | Catalog Identification | |
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| We've had these two brown rifles with our Lego for over 20 years, they look
like part 30141, but they don't have any logo or numbers, are they fake?
The bottom one is part 30141, reddish brown.
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| | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Jan 31, 2024 14:29 | | Subject: | Re: Fake or real? | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog Identification | |
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| In Catalog Identification, Anje572 writes:
| | We've had these two brown rifles with our Lego for over 20 years, they look
like part 30141, but they don't have any logo or numbers, are they fake?
The bottom one is part 30141, reddish brown.
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They look real to me.
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| | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jan 31, 2024 14:33 | | Subject: | Re: Fake or real? | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Catalog Identification | |
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| I’ve seen early one’s without Lego logo.
In Catalog Identification, Anje572 writes:
| | We've had these two brown rifles with our Lego for over 20 years, they look
like part 30141, but they don't have any logo or numbers, are they fake?
The bottom one is part 30141, reddish brown.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jan 31, 2024 14:43 | | Subject: | Re: Fake or real? | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Catalog Identification | |
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| Seems that it wasn’t part of any set in brown and only one in reddish brown from
2011.
In Catalog Identification, Stuart9 writes:
| | I’ve seen early one’s without Lego logo.
In Catalog Identification, Anje572 writes:
| | We've had these two brown rifles with our Lego for over 20 years, they look
like part 30141, but they don't have any logo or numbers, are they fake?
The bottom one is part 30141, reddish brown.
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| | | | | Author: | Cob | | Posted: | Jan 31, 2024 15:14 | | Subject: | Re: Fake or real? | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Catalog Identification | |
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| In Catalog Identification, Anje572 writes:
| | We've had these two brown rifles with our Lego for over 20 years, they look
like part 30141, but they don't have any logo or numbers, are they fake?
The bottom one is part 30141, reddish brown.
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They don't look real to me. However additional photos would be needed to
make a decision.
The trigger loop looks off, the sights are inconsistent, no circle mark underneath
the hammer.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Cob | | Posted: | Jan 31, 2024 15:15 | | Subject: | Re: Fake or real? | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog Identification | |
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| In Catalog Identification, Cob writes:
| | In Catalog Identification, Anje572 writes:
| | We've had these two brown rifles with our Lego for over 20 years, they look
like part 30141, but they don't have any logo or numbers, are they fake?
The bottom one is part 30141, reddish brown.
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They don't look real to me. However additional photos would be needed to
make a decision.
The trigger loop looks off, the sights are inconsistent, no circle mark underneath
the hammer.
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I don't think I would sell them in my store.
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| | | | | Author: | runner.caller | | Posted: | Jan 31, 2024 15:51 | | Subject: | Re: Fake or real? | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Catalog Identification | |
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| In Catalog Identification, Anje572 writes:
| | We've had these two brown rifles with our Lego for over 20 years, they look
like part 30141, but they don't have any logo or numbers, are they fake?
The bottom one is part 30141, reddish brown.
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I think they're probably fake. The plastic slag on the shoulder stocks isn't
something I've seen on any of the rifles.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Tracyd | | Posted: | Feb 1, 2024 10:47 | | Subject: | Re: Fake or real? | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Catalog Identification | |
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| In Catalog Identification, runner.caller writes:
| | In Catalog Identification, Anje572 writes:
| | We've had these two brown rifles with our Lego for over 20 years, they look
like part 30141, but they don't have any logo or numbers, are they fake?
The bottom one is part 30141, reddish brown.
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I think they're probably fake. The plastic slag on the shoulder stocks isn't
something I've seen on any of the rifles.
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I've seen plenty of the flintlock rifles with the slag on them from sets
pre 2000.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | runner.caller | | Posted: | Feb 1, 2024 14:06 | | Subject: | Re: Fake or real? | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog Identification | |
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| In Catalog Identification, Tracyd writes:
| | In Catalog Identification, runner.caller writes:
| | In Catalog Identification, Anje572 writes:
| | We've had these two brown rifles with our Lego for over 20 years, they look
like part 30141, but they don't have any logo or numbers, are they fake?
The bottom one is part 30141, reddish brown.
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I think they're probably fake. The plastic slag on the shoulder stocks isn't
something I've seen on any of the rifles.
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I've seen plenty of the flintlock rifles with the slag on them from sets
pre 2000.
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Yeah, i agree with you, but I wasn't talking about the musket part.
Specifically just the rifle element posted by the OP is what I haven't seen
any slag on,
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Cob | | Posted: | Feb 1, 2024 14:37 | | Subject: | Re: Fake or real? | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog Identification | |
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| In Catalog Identification, Tracyd writes:
| | In Catalog Identification, runner.caller writes:
| | In Catalog Identification, Anje572 writes:
| | We've had these two brown rifles with our Lego for over 20 years, they look
like part 30141, but they don't have any logo or numbers, are they fake?
The bottom one is part 30141, reddish brown.
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I think they're probably fake. The plastic slag on the shoulder stocks isn't
something I've seen on any of the rifles.
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I've seen plenty of the flintlock rifles with the slag on them from sets
pre 2000.
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The reddish brown version wasn't made until 2011.
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| | | | | Author: | Adjour | | Posted: | Jan 31, 2024 16:26 | | Subject: | Re: Fake or real? | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog Identification | |
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| In Catalog Identification, Anje572 writes:
| | We've had these two brown rifles with our Lego for over 20 years, they look
like part 30141, but they don't have any logo or numbers, are they fake?
The bottom one is part 30141, reddish brown.
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They strike me as fake, too shiny
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| | | | | Author: | ghyde | | Posted: | Jan 31, 2024 16:34 | | Subject: | Re: Fake or real? | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Catalog Identification | |
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| In Catalog Identification, Anje572 writes:
| | We've had these two brown rifles with our Lego for over 20 years, they look
like part 30141, but they don't have any logo or numbers, are they fake?
The bottom one is part 30141, reddish brown.
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The top two both show signs of mold flashing on the stock, and therefore might
be convincing fakes or third party custom items. Either way, it means they are
not genuine LEGO and should not be sold on this site.
I recall a lot of weapons made by "brick arms" or some similar sounding
site, a long time ago. The top two are likely from them or another custom weapons
manufacturer.
Cheers ...
ghyde
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| | | | | | | Author: | Tracyd | | Posted: | Feb 1, 2024 09:18 | | Subject: | Re: Fake or real? | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Catalog Identification | |
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| In Catalog Identification, ghyde writes:
| | In Catalog Identification, Anje572 writes:
| | We've had these two brown rifles with our Lego for over 20 years, they look
like part 30141, but they don't have any logo or numbers, are they fake?
The bottom one is part 30141, reddish brown.
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The top two both show signs of mold flashing on the stock, and therefore might
be convincing fakes or third party custom items. Either way, it means they are
not genuine LEGO and should not be sold on this site.
I recall a lot of weapons made by "brick arms" or some similar sounding
site, a long time ago. The top two are likely from them or another custom weapons
manufacturer.
Cheers ...
ghyde
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Brickarms does not copy Lego weapons. Most likely a Chinese made knock-off.
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| | | | | Author: | Akir | | Posted: | Feb 1, 2024 03:43 | | Subject: | Re: Fake or real? | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Catalog Identification | |
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| In Catalog Identification, Anje572 writes:
| | We've had these two brown rifles with our Lego for over 20 years, they look
like part 30141, but they don't have any logo or numbers, are they fake?
The bottom one is part 30141, reddish brown.
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If you've had them for that long, I'd rather vote for genuine - Lego
parts without logo were a thing in the 20th century, and the really well-made
fakes, barely distinguishable from the originals, seem to me a more recent problem.
But that's just my feeling, would need a more serious Lego historian to put
a verified date to that...
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 1, 2024 05:05 | | Subject: | Re: Fake or real? | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Catalog Identification | |
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| In Catalog Identification, Akir writes:
| | In Catalog Identification, Anje572 writes:
| | We've had these two brown rifles with our Lego for over 20 years, they look
like part 30141, but they don't have any logo or numbers, are they fake?
The bottom one is part 30141, reddish brown.
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If you've had them for that long, I'd rather vote for genuine - Lego
parts without logo were a thing in the 20th century, and the really well-made
fakes, barely distinguishable from the originals, seem to me a more recent problem.
But that's just my feeling, would need a more serious Lego historian to put
a verified date to that...
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If they were in production colours, I'd agree. But these are non-production
colours for that age.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Cob | | Posted: | Feb 1, 2024 08:49 | | Subject: | Re: Fake or real? | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog Identification | |
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| In Catalog Identification, Akir writes:
| | In Catalog Identification, Anje572 writes:
| | We've had these two brown rifles with our Lego for over 20 years, they look
like part 30141, but they don't have any logo or numbers, are they fake?
The bottom one is part 30141, reddish brown.
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If you've had them for that long, I'd rather vote for genuine - Lego
parts without logo were a thing in the 20th century, and the really well-made
fakes, barely distinguishable from the originals, seem to me a more recent problem.
But that's just my feeling, would need a more serious Lego historian to put
a verified date to that...
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Playmobil has been making toys for a long time.
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