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 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
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SezaR (1380)

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I was used in have many sales in Nov. and Dec but not this year.
Are sales low for others?

If so, does it have to do with November 3rd incident?
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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In General, SezaR writes:
  I was used in have many sales in Nov. and Dec but not this year.
Are sales low for others?

If so, does it have to do with November 3rd incident?

Yes and no. Set sales seemed to be a bit slow this year, which I assume is normally
related to presents. Whereas parts sales seemed to be as good as previous years,
which I assume tend to be people buying for their own creations.

I imagine it is partly due to the economy and people cutting back on gifts this
year, partly due to sales/discounts at other large retailers, partly due to the
amount of stuff that LEGO pumps out these days and partly due to over-inflated
prices here (compared to RRPs on the huge number of similar current sets available
in stores) and partly due to the number of sellers here. And probably other stuff
too.
 Author: PlanetEarthToys View Messages Posted By PlanetEarthToys
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In General, SezaR writes:
  I was used in have many sales in Nov. and Dec but not this year.
Are sales low for others?

If so, does it have to do with November 3rd incident?

Hasbro ( Lego Parent Company) just laid off like 10% of their employeees worldwide
across all brands, including Lego due to lack of money coming in.

seems like an 'in-general' sales slump going on everywhere. our other
collectibles store has been slow as well..
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
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Hasbro ( Lego Parent Company) […]

Good one.
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  Hasbro ( Lego Parent Company) just laid off like 10% of their employeees worldwide
across all brands, including Lego due to lack of money coming in.

Is this satire?
 Author: PlanetEarthToys View Messages Posted By PlanetEarthToys
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  Hasbro ( Lego Parent Company) just laid off like 10% of their employeees worldwide
across all brands, including Lego due to lack of money coming in.

Is this satire?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/hasbro-cuts-1100-jobs-or-20-of-its-workforce-prompted-by-the-ongoing-malaise-in-the-toy-business/ar-AA1llRKh
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In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
  In General, ManyMiniBricks writes:
  
  Hasbro ( Lego Parent Company) just laid off like 10% of their employeees worldwide
across all brands, including Lego due to lack of money coming in.

Is this satire?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/hasbro-cuts-1100-jobs-or-20-of-its-workforce-prompted-by-the-ongoing-malaise-in-the-toy-business/ar-AA1llRKh

I suspect ManyMiniBricks meant the part about Hasbro being Lego's parent
company
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In General, ManyMiniBricks writes:
  
  Hasbro ( Lego Parent Company) just laid off like 10% of their employeees worldwide
across all brands, including Lego due to lack of money coming in.

Is this satire?
 Author: toontexas View Messages Posted By toontexas
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In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:

  
Hasbro ( Lego Parent Company)......


I don't know where you get your information, but Hasbro has absolutely nothing
to do with LEGO.
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In General, toontexas writes:
  In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:

  
Hasbro ( Lego Parent Company)......


I don't know where you get your information, but Hasbro has absolutely nothing
to do with LEGO.


They should have a basic LEGO knowledge test to become a seller here. Might keep
some of the riffraff out.
 Author: PlanetEarthToys View Messages Posted By PlanetEarthToys
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   Might keep
some of the riffraff out.

riffraff
plural
noun

people with a bad reputation or of a low social class


.... bad Admin, no Donut

rules are the same for everyone
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In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
  In General, randyf writes:
   […]

.... bad Admin, no Donut

randyf is an admin?
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In General, toontexas writes:
  In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:

  
Hasbro ( Lego Parent Company)......


I don't know where you get your information, but Hasbro has absolutely nothing
to do with LEGO.


.......

-- https://corporate.hasbro.com/en-us/articles/the_lego_group_and_transformers_engage_brick_mode
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In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
  In General, toontexas writes:
  In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:

  
Hasbro ( Lego Parent Company)......


I don't know where you get your information, but Hasbro has absolutely nothing
to do with LEGO.


.......

-- https://corporate.hasbro.com/en-us/articles/the_lego_group_and_transformers_engage_brick_mode

That's like saying Lego is owned by Disney due to how many collaborations
they have together.
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In General, macebobo writes:
  In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
  In General, toontexas writes:
  In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:

  
Hasbro ( Lego Parent Company)......


I don't know where you get your information, but Hasbro has absolutely nothing
to do with LEGO.


.......

-- https://corporate.hasbro.com/en-us/articles/the_lego_group_and_transformers_engage_brick_mode

That's like saying Lego is owned by Disney due to how many collaborations
they have together.

Good analogy as applied to their original post and the fundamental misunderstanding
of TLG therein.

That said and in all fairness, this seems to be in direct response to the statement
"Hasbro has absolutely nothing to do with LEGO" toontexas subsequently
made to him. In which case, the linked article is a well-targeted response.

-popsicle
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In General, popsicle writes:
  In General, macebobo writes:
  In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
  In General, toontexas writes:
  In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:

  
Hasbro ( Lego Parent Company)......


I don't know where you get your information, but Hasbro has absolutely nothing
to do with LEGO.


.......

-- https://corporate.hasbro.com/en-us/articles/the_lego_group_and_transformers_engage_brick_mode

That's like saying Lego is owned by Disney due to how many collaborations
they have together.

Good analogy as applied to their original post and the fundamental misunderstanding
of TLG therein.

That said and in all fairness, this seems to be in direct response to the statement
"Hasbro has absolutely nothing to do with LEGO" toontexas subsequently
made to him. In which case, the linked article is a well-targeted response.

-popsicle

yeah this article is a direct response to Toontexas , ... 'has absolutely
nothing to do with Lego' is incorrect.

initially it was my bad, thought Hasbro had bought Lego back around 2020 , so
i went to find the article i saw back then & figured out it was just a collaboration...
so i posted it to eat my Crow

i goofed the 'Parent Company' aspect simply from just reading only part
of a news article 3 years ago, & not caring about it too much back then
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In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
  yeah this article is a direct response to Toontexas , ... 'has absolutely
nothing to do with Lego' is incorrect.

initially it was my bad, thought Hasbro had bought Lego back around 2020 , so
i went to find the article i saw back then & figured out it was just a collaboration...
so i posted it to eat my Crow

i goofed the 'Parent Company' aspect simply from just reading only part
of a news article 3 years ago, & not caring about it too much back then

The LEGO Group may not be owned by Hasbro, but I agree that it's not necessarily
true to say that they have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

Apparently, the LEGO Group does have a parent company, a Danish investment management
company called KIRKBI: https://www.kirkbi.com/

But since KIRKBI is just a holding company with no real branding or products
of its own, the distinction between TLG and KIRKBI is rather arbitrary. For all
practical purposes, LEGO is an independent company.

You may also be confusing LEGO with BrickLink, which was purchased by LEGO around
2020.
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  The LEGO Group may not be owned by Hasbro, but I agree that it's not necessarily
true to say that they have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

Apparently, the LEGO Group does have a parent company, a Danish investment management
company called KIRKBI: https://www.kirkbi.com/

But since KIRKBI is just a holding company with no real branding or products
of its own, the distinction between TLG and KIRKBI is rather arbitrary. For all
practical purposes, LEGO is an independent company.

Couldn't find any mention of BrickLink there.
I guess we're nothing
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  Couldn't find any mention of BrickLink there.
I guess we're nothing

That's pretty much true. BrickLink is just a small part of the LEGO Group's
overall business.

And it looks like KIRKBI also owns 47.5% of Merlin Entertainments, a British
entertainment company.

I guess these are just the Kristiansen family assets.
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In General, wildchicken13 writes:
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And it looks like KIRKBI also owns 47.5% of Merlin Entertainments, a British
entertainment company.

It’s LEGOLAND parcs.
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In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, wildchicken13 writes:
  […]
And it looks like KIRKBI also owns 47.5% of Merlin Entertainments, a British
entertainment company.

It’s LEGOLAND parcs.

That makes more sense now.
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In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, wildchicken13 writes:
  […]
And it looks like KIRKBI also owns 47.5% of Merlin Entertainments, a British
entertainment company.

It’s LEGOLAND parcs.

It is also other theme parks, Madame Tussauds, London Eye, and a number of other
attractions. It's a huge business now.
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In General, wildchicken13 writes:
  The LEGO Group may not be owned by Hasbro, but I agree that it's not necessarily
true to say that they have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

Apparently, the LEGO Group does have a parent company, a Danish investment management
company called KIRKBI: https://www.kirkbi.com/


Hmm, KIRKBI only owns 75% of TLG, wonder who owns the other 25%?
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In General, macebobo writes:
  Hmm, KIRKBI only owns 75% of TLG, wonder who owns the other 25%?

The LEGO Foundation: https://www.lego.com/en-us/aboutus/lego-group/ownership
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In General, macebobo writes:
  In General, wildchicken13 writes:
  The LEGO Group may not be owned by Hasbro, but I agree that it's not necessarily
true to say that they have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

Apparently, the LEGO Group does have a parent company, a Danish investment management
company called KIRKBI: https://www.kirkbi.com/


Hmm, KIRKBI only owns 75% of TLG, wonder who owns the other 25%?

Their foundation, with Sidsel Marie Kristensen now at the helm. I believe she
was/is head of legal at Kirkbi A/S, or their General Counsel
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  I was used in have many sales in Nov. and Dec but not this year.
Are sales low for others?

Good to know it’s not just me. 2-3 weeks ago they were really well but for the
past 2 weeks it’s been very very slow
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In General, Nubs_Select writes:
  In General, SezaR writes:
  I was used in have many sales in Nov. and Dec but not this year.
Are sales low for others?

Good to know it’s not just me.

Based on other responses, seems it's just me and you
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In General, SezaR writes:
  In General, Nubs_Select writes:
  In General, SezaR writes:
  I was used in have many sales in Nov. and Dec but not this year.
Are sales low for others?

Good to know it’s not just me.

Based on other responses, seems it's just me and you

maybe with this and the Paypal thing we are just unlucky
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  In General, SezaR writes:
  In General, Nubs_Select writes:
  In General, SezaR writes:
  I was used in have many sales in Nov. and Dec but not this year.
Are sales low for others?

Good to know it’s not just me.

Based on other responses, seems it's just me and you

maybe with this and the Paypal thing we are just unlucky

Yeap kind of unlucky but there are actually few things we can do to make things
work better ...
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In General, SezaR writes:
  I was used in have many sales in Nov. and Dec but not this year.
Are sales low for others?

If so, does it have to do with November 3rd incident?

Maybe it has to do with what country you are selling in? Our sales in parts have
been really good for the past few months.
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  I was used in have many sales in Nov. and Dec but not this year.
Are sales low for others?

Not here, better, but there are so many factors you can't control (political,
social...)

https://stats.inspacesync.com/
This for now indicates 278,000 orders for December, which would make it by far
the highest ever.


  If so, does it have to do with November 3rd incident?

There was 5 something days closed, which implied 5/30 less orders, approx -17%
orders this month. Probably a bit less because it was supposed to be a better
month - so maybe around -5% orders I'd say?
 Author: Yo_Yo_Flamingo View Messages Posted By Yo_Yo_Flamingo
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In General, SezaR writes:
  I was used in have many sales in Nov. and Dec but not this year.
Are sales low for others?

If so, does it have to do with November 3rd incident?

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In General, SezaR writes:
  I was used in have many sales in Nov. and Dec but not this year.
Are sales low for others?

If so, does it have to do with November 3rd incident?

I haven't received many orders in November and December, but I don't
have much inventory, either.

I did receive an order a few days ago, so if anything sales are high for me.

If you're experiencing low sales, it could be due to the November 3rd incident,
or it could be due to other factors.