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| | | Author: | popsicle  | | Posted: | Sep 25, 2023 21:37 | | Subject: | Daniel's Mom | | Viewed: | 447 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| I'd like to expand on Eliska's post with another, if not too presumptuous:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1432092
It’s long believed that death comes twice: First when you've taken your last
breath, and finally when your name is said aloud for the last time. In other
words, the spirit lives on as long as others remember you and your deeds aloud.
An old idea about our mortality, thought to be maintained by the Egyptians among
other earlier dynasties.
In the words of Marcus Aurelius “what we do now (in life) echoes in eternity”
It's often this idea that comes to mind when I've read Daniel's death
and birth day announcements here in the forum over the years.
Longevity matters far less than our accomplishments, or the amount of positive
influence we're able to effect on the world left behind. If there's any
veracity to these long held ideas, we should all be very proud of Daniel, and
honored to be building upon what he has given us.
Of course to loved ones, especially a parent, longevity is understandably preferred.
And therein lies the sorrow. Take care of yourself this day, Daniel's mom
-Cory
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| | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Sep 25, 2023 22:41 | | Subject: | Re: Daniel's Mom | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, popsicle writes:
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In the words of Marcus Aurelius “what we do now (in life) echoes in eternity”
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nice post, but...
'The original quote is “What we do now echoes in eternity” by Marcus Aurelius.
The quote you mentioned, “What we do now (in life) echoes in eternity,” is a
variation of the original quote and is spoken by the character Maximus Decimus
Meridius in the movie “Gladiator” '
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| | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Sep 25, 2023 23:13 | | Subject: | Re: Daniel's Mom | | Viewed: | 82 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
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In the words of Marcus Aurelius “what we do now (in life) echoes in eternity”
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nice post, but...
'The original quote is “What we do now echoes in eternity” by Marcus Aurelius.
The quote you mentioned, “What we do now (in life) echoes in eternity,” is a
variation of the original quote and is spoken by the character Maximus Decimus
Meridius in the movie “Gladiator” '
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When quoting Marcus Aurelius's "now" I applied what we in the contemporary
would take to mean in life, and why I inserted it parenthetically.
Sorry, thought that was apparent... I don't really understand the movie reference?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Sep 25, 2023 23:44 | | Subject: | Re: Daniel's Mom | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, popsicle writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
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In the words of Marcus Aurelius “what we do now (in life) echoes in eternity”
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nice post, but...
'The original quote is “What we do now echoes in eternity” by Marcus Aurelius.
The quote you mentioned, “What we do now (in life) echoes in eternity,” is a
variation of the original quote and is spoken by the character Maximus Decimus
Meridius in the movie “Gladiator” '
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When quoting Marcus Aurelius's "now" I applied what we in the contemporary
would take to mean in life, and why I inserted it parenthetically.
Sorry, thought that was apparent... I don't really understand the movie reference?
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just letting you know you quoted Russell Crowe verbatim, not 'in the words
of Marcus Aurelius'.
if you are going to use the phrasing " in the words of..." it should
be Verbatim of what the person you are quoting actually said / wrote, not an
improvised version of the original that Russell Crowe said or your's or someone
else's "take" of it.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Sep 26, 2023 00:07 | | Subject: | Re: Daniel's Mom | | Viewed: | 97 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
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In the words of Marcus Aurelius “what we do now (in life) echoes in eternity”
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nice post, but...
'The original quote is “What we do now echoes in eternity” by Marcus Aurelius.
The quote you mentioned, “What we do now (in life) echoes in eternity,” is a
variation of the original quote and is spoken by the character Maximus Decimus
Meridius in the movie “Gladiator” '
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When quoting Marcus Aurelius's "now" I applied what we in the contemporary
would take to mean in life, and why I inserted it parenthetically.
Sorry, thought that was apparent... I don't really understand the movie reference?
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just letting you know you quoted Russell Crowe verbatim, not 'in the words
of Marcus Aurelius'.
if you are going to use the phrasing " in the words of..." it should
be Verbatim of what the person you are quoting actually said / wrote, not an
improvised version of the original that Russell Crowe said or your's or someone
else's "take" of it.
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Good to know, thanks.
Though I'm not familiar with Russell Crowe's notable quotes (didn't
know the actor had any) I promise to look them up. Thanks again.
That said, although I do enjoy movies, I've mostly read my whole life. Even
when overseas under adverse conditions, it was books that were my salvation
When my eyes eventually gave out, it was audio books for me. After I got the
eyes fixed, it's now back to reading
My son and I both have always enjoyed most the antiquities, especially Roman.
It's something we still share. Though his knowledge of that period far outweighs
mine, nowadays
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Sep 26, 2023 07:52 | | Subject: | Re: Daniel's Mom | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, popsicle writes:
| | When quoting Marcus Aurelius's "now" I applied what we in the contemporary
would take to mean in life, and why I inserted it parenthetically.
Sorry, thought that was apparent... I don't really understand the movie reference?
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Your post was nice. Since pedantry is on the table, I will indulge. Your meaning
would have been clearer if you had used [] instead of (). The square ones usually
mean "I am adding something here to clarify".
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Sep 26, 2023 09:45 | | Subject: | Re: Daniel's Mom | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, axaday writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
| | When quoting Marcus Aurelius's "now" I applied what we in the contemporary
would take to mean in life, and why I inserted it parenthetically.
Sorry, thought that was apparent... I don't really understand the movie reference?
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Your post was nice. Since pedantry is on the table, I will indulge. Your meaning
would have been clearer if you had used [] instead of (). The square ones usually
mean "I am adding something here to clarify".
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Good point. Thanks
Honestly, I'm just stoked that my brain still functions enough to allow me
the ability to form at least halfway coherent sentences. Yeah I know, setting
the bar kind of low
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| | | | | | | Author: | Darth_Smithy | | Posted: | Sep 26, 2023 07:15 | | Subject: | Re: Daniel's Mom | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
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In the words of Marcus Aurelius “what we do now (in life) echoes in eternity”
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nice post, but...
'The original quote is “What we do now echoes in eternity” by Marcus Aurelius.
The quote you mentioned, “What we do now (in life) echoes in eternity,” is a
variation of the original quote and is spoken by the character Maximus Decimus
Meridius in the movie “Gladiator” '
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There may be some wriggle room in translating ancient latin to modern english.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Sep 26, 2023 07:32 | | Subject: | Re: Daniel's Mom | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | There may be some wriggle room in translating ancient latin to modern english.
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Greek, not Latin.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Sep 26, 2023 10:33 | | Subject: | Re: Daniel's Mom | | Viewed: | 71 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, yorbrick writes:
| | | | There may be some wriggle room in translating ancient latin to modern english.
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Greek, not Latin.
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+1
Though, as he spoke Latin, it's easy to imagine his Greek writings being
voiced and even republished in the common tongue too. If not by him, then by
others of his time and those of following generations.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Sep 26, 2023 11:43 | | Subject: | Re: Daniel's Mom | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, popsicle writes:
| | In General, yorbrick writes:
| | | | There may be some wriggle room in translating ancient latin to modern english.
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Greek, not Latin.
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+1
Though, as he spoke Latin, it's easy to imagine his Greek writings being
voiced and even republished in the common tongue too. If not by him, then by
others of his time and those of following generations.
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It is 40 years since I did Latin and Greek at school, but from what I remember
these meditations were essentially directions to himself and were not necessarily
meant for others.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Sep 26, 2023 12:05 | | Subject: | Re: Daniel's Mom | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, yorbrick writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
| | In General, yorbrick writes:
| | | | There may be some wriggle room in translating ancient latin to modern english.
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Greek, not Latin.
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+1
Though, as he spoke Latin, it's easy to imagine his Greek writings being
voiced and even republished in the common tongue too. If not by him, then by
others of his time and those of following generations.
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It is 40 years since I did Latin and Greek at school, but from what I remember
these meditations were essentially directions to himself and were not necessarily
meant for others.
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He did not publish them.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Sep 26, 2023 12:20 | | Subject: | Re: Daniel's Mom | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, yorbrick writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
| | In General, yorbrick writes:
| | | | There may be some wriggle room in translating ancient latin to modern english.
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Greek, not Latin.
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+1
Though, as he spoke Latin, it's easy to imagine his Greek writings being
voiced and even republished in the common tongue too. If not by him, then by
others of his time and those of following generations.
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It is 40 years since I did Latin and Greek at school, but from what I remember
these meditations were essentially directions to himself and were not necessarily
meant for others.
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True. Good point.
Though as Greek was considered at the time the language of intellectuals and
philosophers, and given his position and duties prior to becoming Emperor, that
he would have written far more than his personal notes and ponderings “His Meditations”
also in what was his favorite language. But you’re right, what was quoted was
from his personal reflections as Emperor.
See this is where I’ve gotten well in over my head, and where my son, were he
here, would set my thinking straight on the topic. But I’ve got you to do that
today. So thanks
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Sep 26, 2023 13:47 | | Subject: | Re: Daniel's Mom | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, popsicle writes:
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Though as Greek was considered at the time the language of intellectuals and
philosophers,
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Nope, missed again 
Greek was spoken by the inhabitants of the Eastern half of the Empire (what will
become the Eastern Roman Empire 200 years or so later).
And by “half,” I mean the geographical half because population-wise it
was more than half.
That Greek is called “Koine Greek”: Common Greek, for a reason
But then, the Western Roman Empire, and soon its “successors” (the Germanic peoples
(see Charlemagne for a later example)) and the Roman church went on claiming
it was a lesser empire (“Lower Empire”) and non-Roman (“Byzantine”) and they
are the ones who wrote “our” history (us: the Western culture(s)). So we are
tought the Roman Empire ended around the fifth century from the “barbarian invasions”
(English and French term) or “migrations” (German term) while it actually went
on well into the 15th.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Sep 26, 2023 15:30 | | Subject: | Re: Daniel's Mom | | Viewed: | 75 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
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Though as Greek was considered at the time the language of intellectuals and
philosophers,
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Nope, missed again
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So what's the count then, how many strikes?
Seriously though, it was consider at that time in Rome, as the language of intellectuals
and philosophers, in addition to some of the not-germane-to-the-point
facts you offered. Why he and others chose to contemplate and philosophize using
the language.
This has been a fun thread, and it's given me another something to talk about
when my son comes to visit. His depth of understanding and knowledge of details
is really impressive; names, dates, events, family lineages, etc. It's also
a topic he can talk about at length. Just ask a question and sit back
We can maybe revisit this topic here, after he sets my thinking straight on
that stoical bit of Roman history
Thanks anyway, Sylvain
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Greek was spoken by the inhabitants of the Eastern half of the Empire (what will
become the Eastern Roman Empire 200 years or so later).
And by “half,” I mean the geographical half because population-wise it
was more than half.
That Greek is called “Koine Greek”: Common Greek, for a reason
But then, the Western Roman Empire, and soon its “successors” (the Germanic peoples
(see Charlemagne for a later example)) and the Roman church went on claiming
it was a lesser empire (“Lower Empire”) and non-Roman (“Byzantine”) and they
are the ones who wrote “our” history (us: the Western culture(s)). So we are
tought the Roman Empire ended around the fifth century from the “barbarian invasions”
(English and French term) or “migrations” (German term) while it actually went
on well into the 15th.
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| | | | | Author: | Danielsmom | | Posted: | Sep 25, 2023 23:28 | | Subject: | Re: Daniel's Mom | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, popsicle writes:
| | I'd like to expand on Eliska's post with another, if not too presumptuous:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1432092
It’s long believed that death comes twice: First when you've taken your last
breath, and finally when your name is said aloud for the last time. In other
words, the spirit lives on as long as others remember you and your deeds aloud.
An old idea about our mortality, thought to be maintained by the Egyptians among
other earlier dynasties.
In the words of Marcus Aurelius “what we do now (in life) echoes in eternity”
It's often this idea that comes to mind when I've read Daniel's death
and birth day announcements here in the forum over the years.
Longevity matters far less than our accomplishments, or the amount of positive
influence we're able to effect on the world left behind. If there's any
veracity to these long held ideas, we should all be very proud of Daniel, and
honored to be building upon what he has given us.
Of course to loved ones, especially a parent, longevity is understandably preferred.
And therein lies the sorrow. Take care of yourself this day, Daniel's mom
-Cory
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| | | | | Author: | Danielsmom | | Posted: | Sep 25, 2023 23:31 | | Subject: | Re: Daniel's Mom | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, popsicle writes:
| | I'd like to expand on Eliska's post with another, if not too presumptuous:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1432092
It’s long believed that death comes twice: First when you've taken your last
breath, and finally when your name is said aloud for the last time. In other
words, the spirit lives on as long as others remember you and your deeds aloud.
An old idea about our mortality, thought to be maintained by the Egyptians among
other earlier dynasties.
In the words of Marcus Aurelius “what we do now (in life) echoes in eternity”
It's often this idea that comes to mind when I've read Daniel's death
and birth day announcements here in the forum over the years.
Longevity matters far less than our accomplishments, or the amount of positive
influence we're able to effect on the world left behind. If there's any
veracity to these long held ideas, we should all be very proud of Daniel, and
honored to be building upon what he has given us.
Of course to loved ones, especially a parent, longevity is understandably preferred.
And therein lies the sorrow. Take care of yourself this day, Daniel's mom
-Cory
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Thanks, Cory, it is a really nice sentiment, and so true.
Eliska
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| | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Sep 25, 2023 23:35 | | Subject: | Re: Daniel's Mom | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Danielsmom writes:
| | In General, popsicle writes:
| | I'd like to expand on Eliska's post with another, if not too presumptuous:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1432092
It’s long believed that death comes twice: First when you've taken your last
breath, and finally when your name is said aloud for the last time. In other
words, the spirit lives on as long as others remember you and your deeds aloud.
An old idea about our mortality, thought to be maintained by the Egyptians among
other earlier dynasties.
In the words of Marcus Aurelius “what we do now (in life) echoes in eternity”
It's often this idea that comes to mind when I've read Daniel's death
and birth day announcements here in the forum over the years.
Longevity matters far less than our accomplishments, or the amount of positive
influence we're able to effect on the world left behind. If there's any
veracity to these long held ideas, we should all be very proud of Daniel, and
honored to be building upon what he has given us.
Of course to loved ones, especially a parent, longevity is understandably preferred.
And therein lies the sorrow. Take care of yourself this day, Daniel's mom
-Cory
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Thanks, Cory, it is a really nice sentiment, and so true.
Eliska
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Warm thoughts going out to you, Eliska
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