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 Author: Stuart9 View Messages Posted By Stuart9
 Posted: Apr 20, 2023 14:27
 Subject: Your views on katana examples
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Stuart9 (1049)

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Have two, one flat silver and one black.

They at first appear to be 30173b but on closer examination they don’t match
BL images.

 
Part No: 30173b  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir/Katana (Square Guard) with Uncapped Pommel and Hole in Hilt
* 
30173b Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir/Katana (Square Guard) with Uncapped Pommel and Hole in Hilt
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon

Now classing them as probable clones.

No Lego markings on either but we know this may be ok.

Flat silver has only one circle close to guard on reverse when viewed as images,
it does have shallow hole in hilt.

Black is without hole in hilt and faint circle on reverse close to guard.

Patterns on hilt appear different to each other.

Anyone have more experience with these Katana parts with square guard without
hilt cap ?

Cheers.
 


 Author: pcthurman View Messages Posted By pcthurman
 Posted: Apr 20, 2023 14:42
 Subject: Re: Your views on katana examples
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In General, Stuart9 writes:
  Have two, one flat silver and one black.

They at first appear to be 30173b but on closer examination they don’t match
BL images.

 
Part No: 30173b  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir/Katana (Square Guard) with Uncapped Pommel and Hole in Hilt
* 
30173b Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir/Katana (Square Guard) with Uncapped Pommel and Hole in Hilt
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon

Now classing them as probable clones.

No Lego markings on either but we know this may be ok.


Anyone have more experience with these Katana parts with square guard without
hilt cap ?

Cheers.

All of my
 
Part No: 30173b  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir/Katana (Square Guard) with Uncapped Pommel and Hole in Hilt
* 
30173b Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir/Katana (Square Guard) with Uncapped Pommel and Hole in Hilt
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon
have the hole in the hilt and with the exception of the
tan one I have; they all have a marking on the blade by the guard.

Cass T
 Author: Nicolasamico37 View Messages Posted By Nicolasamico37
 Posted: Apr 20, 2023 14:51
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In General, Stuart9 writes:
  Have two, one flat silver and one black.

They at first appear to be 30173b but on closer examination they don’t match
BL images.

 
Part No: 30173b  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir/Katana (Square Guard) with Uncapped Pommel and Hole in Hilt
* 
30173b Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir/Katana (Square Guard) with Uncapped Pommel and Hole in Hilt
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon

Now classing them as probable clones.

No Lego markings on either but we know this may be ok.

Flat silver has only one circle close to guard on reverse when viewed as images,
it does have shallow hole in hilt.

Black is without hole in hilt and faint circle on reverse close to guard.

Patterns on hilt appear different to each other.

Anyone have more experience with these Katana parts with square guard without
hilt cap ?

Cheers.

Hi,

As you can see, the hole in the handle is at a different place, depending on
the mold. There are 2 different molds, the end of the handle is a bit different.

Nicolas
 




 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Apr 20, 2023 15:00
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It seems one of your silver ones was used as a toothpick
 Author: LeeGo73 View Messages Posted By LeeGo73
 Posted: Apr 20, 2023 15:08
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In General, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  In General, Stuart9 writes:
  Have two, one flat silver and one black.

They at first appear to be 30173b but on closer examination they don’t match
BL images.

 
Part No: 30173b  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir/Katana (Square Guard) with Uncapped Pommel and Hole in Hilt
* 
30173b Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir/Katana (Square Guard) with Uncapped Pommel and Hole in Hilt
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon

Now classing them as probable clones.

No Lego markings on either but we know this may be ok.

Flat silver has only one circle close to guard on reverse when viewed as images,
it does have shallow hole in hilt.

Black is without hole in hilt and faint circle on reverse close to guard.

Patterns on hilt appear different to each other.

Anyone have more experience with these Katana parts with square guard without
hilt cap ?

Cheers.

Hi,

As you can see, the hole in the handle is at a different place, depending on
the mold. There are 2 different molds, the end of the handle is a bit different.

Nicolas

The one with 'the end of the handle is a bit different' is a
 
Part No: 21459  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir/Katana (Square Guard) with Capped Pommel and Holes in Crossguard and Blade
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21459 Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir/Katana (Square Guard) with Capped Pommel and Holes in Crossguard and Blade
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon {Flat Silver}
.
On your pictures is looks like the 30173b is marked '30173' on the blade
and the 21549 is marked with a 'lego' logo. I agree with stuart that
his katanas on the photo are likely clones.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Apr 20, 2023 15:36
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In General, Stuart9 writes:
  Have two, one flat silver and one black.

They at first appear to be 30173b but on closer examination they don’t match
BL images.

 
Part No: 30173b  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir/Katana (Square Guard) with Uncapped Pommel and Hole in Hilt
* 
30173b Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir/Katana (Square Guard) with Uncapped Pommel and Hole in Hilt
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon

Now classing them as probable clones.

No Lego markings on either but we know this may be ok.

Flat silver has only one circle close to guard on reverse when viewed as images,
it does have shallow hole in hilt.

Black is without hole in hilt and faint circle on reverse close to guard.

Patterns on hilt appear different to each other.

Anyone have more experience with these Katana parts with square guard without
hilt cap ?

Cheers.


They both look like clone parts to me. The black one for sure is, and the other
one should have the part number on it.
 Author: Stuart9 View Messages Posted By Stuart9
 Posted: Apr 20, 2023 15:42
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Thanks everyone, they were amongst a bag of genuine pieces, into the clone box
they go.




In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Stuart9 writes:
  Have two, one flat silver and one black.

They at first appear to be 30173b but on closer examination they don’t match
BL images.

 
Part No: 30173b  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir/Katana (Square Guard) with Uncapped Pommel and Hole in Hilt
* 
30173b Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir/Katana (Square Guard) with Uncapped Pommel and Hole in Hilt
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon

Now classing them as probable clones.

No Lego markings on either but we know this may be ok.

Flat silver has only one circle close to guard on reverse when viewed as images,
it does have shallow hole in hilt.

Black is without hole in hilt and faint circle on reverse close to guard.

Patterns on hilt appear different to each other.

Anyone have more experience with these Katana parts with square guard without
hilt cap ?

Cheers.


They both look like clone parts to me. The black one for sure is, and the other
one should have the part number on it.