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 Author: cycbuild View Messages Posted By cycbuild
 Posted: Dec 13, 2022 00:33
 Subject: New Relationship Links - Advent Calendar Sets
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Ho ho ho,

I noticed Advent Sub-Sets are always on far fewer Wanted Lists, listed less,
and sold in smaller quantities than their minifigure counterparts.

Sealed polybags or not, the prices are very comparable. I understand if buyers
are avoiding additional parts or accessories, but that doesn't explain the
equal vacancy for non-exclusive minifigures.

Are casual buyers missing out?

Suggestion: Update the festive figures with new relationship links.
 
Set No: 75056  Name: Advent Calendar 2014, Star Wars (Day 22) - Festive Astromech
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75056-23 (Inv) Advent Calendar 2014, Star Wars (Day 22) - Festive Astromech
1 Minifigure, 2014
Sets: Holiday & Event: Advent Sub-Set: Star Wars
 
Minifig No: sw0598  Name: Astromech Droid, Christmas
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sw0598 (Inv) Astromech Droid, Christmas
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Other
 
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Dec 13, 2022 03:53
 Subject: Re: New Relationship Links - Advent Calendar Sets
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In Suggestions, cycbuild writes:
  Ho ho ho,

I noticed Advent Sub-Sets are always on far fewer Wanted Lists, listed less,
and sold in smaller quantities than their minifigure counterparts.

Sealed polybags or not, the prices are very comparable. I understand if buyers
are avoiding additional parts or accessories, but that doesn't explain the
equal vacancy for non-exclusive minifigures.

Are casual buyers missing out?

Suggestion: Update the festive figures with new relationship links.
 
Set No: 75056  Name: Advent Calendar 2014, Star Wars (Day 22) - Festive Astromech
* 
75056-23 (Inv) Advent Calendar 2014, Star Wars (Day 22) - Festive Astromech
1 Minifigure, 2014
Sets: Holiday & Event: Advent Sub-Set: Star Wars
 
Minifig No: sw0598  Name: Astromech Droid, Christmas
* 
sw0598 (Inv) Astromech Droid, Christmas
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Other

There is already a relationship. The set says it contains one minifig only and
the minifig says it is in one set.

If you start to have special rules for advent sets, there are also other sets
that need changing (single figure polybags, motors and electrical parts, etc).
 Author: cycbuild View Messages Posted By cycbuild
 Posted: Dec 13, 2022 05:37
 Subject: Re: New Relationship Links - Advent Calendar Sets
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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  There is already a relationship. The set says it contains one minifig only and
the minifig says it is in one set.

I realize it sounds redundant, but minifigs usually come in at least one set.
It's not the same as pointing out the minifigure polybags that are close
to the same price point.

From a buyer's pov, if you search by "Catalog: Minifigures: Star Wars", it's
easy to overlook the near-to-identical Advent counterparts. There's a difference
in demand with CMFs. Certain sets sell better or worse than their minifigs, but
that's not the case with Advent sets (that are essentially licensed themes
ie. Star Wars CMFs).
  
If you start to have special rules for advent sets, there are also other sets
that need changing (single figure polybags, motors and electrical parts, etc).

That's fair. Not trying to turn a solution into a spill.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Dec 13, 2022 06:01
 Subject: Re: New Relationship Links - Advent Calendar Sets
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  I realize it sounds redundant, but minifigs usually come in at least one set.
It's not the same as pointing out the minifigure polybags that are close
to the same price point.

From a buyer's pov, if you search by "Catalog: Minifigures: Star Wars", it's
easy to overlook the near-to-identical Advent counterparts. There's a difference
in demand with CMFs. Certain sets sell better or worse than their minifigs, but
that's not the case with Advent sets (that are essentially licensed themes
ie. Star Wars CMFs).

This is where buyers need to be careful and check both listings. And sellers
do too. I often spot with Advent figures that it would be better for the seller
to sell a sealed "set" as a figure, even if it comes with an accessory. Or better
still, part it out into the figure and the gun or whatever it comes with. Sometimes
the price for the figure can be higher as there is more demand, because of "lazy"
buyers just wanting the figure and not checking the set. Or better still, if
you have enough of them list as both the set and the figure and shift stock depending
on what sells best.

By minifigure polybags, I mean polybags with exactly one minifigure and nothing
else, where the set is the minifigure (plus packaging) and vice versa. Not CMFs.
 Author: cycbuild View Messages Posted By cycbuild
 Posted: Dec 13, 2022 21:29
 Subject: Re: New Relationship Links - Advent Calendar Sets
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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  This is where buyers need to be careful and check both listings. And sellers
do too. I often spot with Advent figures that it would be better for the seller
to sell a sealed "set" as a figure, even if it comes with an accessory. Or better
still, part it out into the figure and the gun or whatever it comes with. Sometimes
the price for the figure can be higher as there is more demand, because of "lazy"
buyers just wanting the figure and not checking the set. Or better still, if
you have enough of them list as both the set and the figure and shift stock depending
on what sells best.

By minifigure polybags, I mean polybags with exactly one minifigure and nothing
else, where the set is the minifigure (plus packaging) and vice versa. Not CMFs.

I guess, if nothing else, it's a reward for buyers who are willing to learn
more about the catalog. Thanks for your input.
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Dec 13, 2022 10:51
 Subject: Re: New Relationship Links - Advent Calendar Sets
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In Suggestions, cycbuild writes:


So, you want a new relationship to show on the page (beyond the Item Appears
In link) for any minifig that is the entire set that contains it? But only the
advent calendars? Just curious!

Thanks,
Jen
 Author: cycbuild View Messages Posted By cycbuild
 Posted: Dec 13, 2022 21:22
 Subject: Re: New Relationship Links - Advent Calendar Sets
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In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
  So, you want a new relationship to show on the page (beyond the Item Appears
In link) for any minifig that is the entire set that contains it? But only the
advent calendars? Just curious!

Thanks,
Jen

Yes. Only for Advent calendar minifigs and their subsets. And especially for
identical items (no extra parts or accessories). I couldn't find a subset
that broke the pattern of being on less Wanted Lists (20-40%) compared the minifig
entries. Seems odd to me. Adding relationship links could improve their visibility?
Is that more work than it's worth?

For example -
 
Set No: 75056  Name: Advent Calendar 2014, Star Wars (Day 22) - Festive Astromech
* 
75056-23 (Inv) Advent Calendar 2014, Star Wars (Day 22) - Festive Astromech
1 Minifigure, 2014
Sets: Holiday & Event: Advent Sub-Set: Star Wars
Related Items:
This Item is similar to the following Item(s):
 
Minifig No: sw0598  Name: Astromech Droid, Christmas
* 
sw0598 (Inv) Astromech Droid, Christmas
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Other