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 Author: Zongeh View Messages Posted By Zongeh
 Posted: Jul 19, 2022 18:38
 Subject: 100% not possible? Wanted: 0, Have: -
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Zongeh (19)

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Hey,

i tried to set the quantity of some (optional) parts on my Wanted List to zero.
But it seems to be impossible to reach a 100% green bar this way, which is weird?

Example:
SomePart, Want: 1, Have: 1
AnotherPart, Want: 0, Have: -
leads to a 50% green bar.

It should be at 100% (because my requirements are met) or am i missing something?
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jul 19, 2022 18:46
 Subject: Re: 100% not possible? Wanted: 0, Have: -
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In Suggestions, Zongeh writes:
  Hey,

i tried to set the quantity of some (optional) parts on my Wanted List to zero.
But it seems to be impossible to reach a 100% green bar this way, which is weird?

Example:
SomePart, Want: 1, Have: 1
AnotherPart, Want: 0, Have: -
leads to a 50% green bar.

It should be at 100% (because my requirements are met) or am i missing something?

0 = 1

If you don’t want an item, you need to remove it or change the Have.
 Author: Zongeh View Messages Posted By Zongeh
 Posted: Jul 19, 2022 21:18
 Subject: Re: 100% not possible? Wanted: 0, Have: -
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Zongeh (19)

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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, Zongeh writes:
  Hey,

i tried to set the quantity of some (optional) parts on my Wanted List to zero.
But it seems to be impossible to reach a 100% green bar this way, which is weird?

Example:
SomePart, Want: 1, Have: 1
AnotherPart, Want: 0, Have: -
leads to a 50% green bar.

It should be at 100% (because my requirements are met) or am i missing something?

0 = 1

If you don’t want an item, you need to remove it or change the Have.

If i Want 0 and i Have 0, i am happy, right? The result should intuitively be
100%.

I know i could simply remove the item, but it would be more tedious to re-add
it later than simply change the Want quantity. Changing Have to 1, even if i
don't have the item is a possible - but counter-intuitive - workaround.

In my opinion, setting Want to 0 should count this specific item as fullfilled,
regardless of Have (including Have: 0).
 Author: wildchicken13 View Messages Posted By wildchicken13
 Posted: Jul 19, 2022 21:20
 Subject: Re: 100% not possible? Wanted: 0, Have: -
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In Suggestions, Zongeh writes:
  If i Want 0 and i Have 0, i am happy, right? The result should intuitively be
100%.

I know i could simply remove the item, but it would be more tedious to re-add
it later than simply change the Want quantity. Changing Have to 1, even if i
don't have the item is a possible - but counter-intuitive - workaround.

In my opinion, setting Want to 0 should count this specific item as fullfilled,
regardless of Have (including Have: 0).

0 ÷ 0 = 0

0 ÷ 0 = 1

0 ÷ 0 = ∞
 Author: Zongeh View Messages Posted By Zongeh
 Posted: Jul 19, 2022 21:48
 Subject: Re: 100% not possible? Wanted: 0, Have: -
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Zongeh (19)

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In Suggestions, wildchicken13 writes:
  In Suggestions, Zongeh writes:
  If i Want 0 and i Have 0, i am happy, right? The result should intuitively be
100%.

I know i could simply remove the item, but it would be more tedious to re-add
it later than simply change the Want quantity. Changing Have to 1, even if i
don't have the item is a possible - but counter-intuitive - workaround.

In my opinion, setting Want to 0 should count this specific item as fullfilled,
regardless of Have (including Have: 0).

0 ÷ 0 = 0

0 ÷ 0 = 1

0 ÷ 0 = ∞

This is not really about maths.

Want 0 represents "i don't want to buy this item (at the moment)" so in combination
with Have 0 it means "i don't want this item, i don't have it, i'm
fine with this".
And "i'm fine with this" should not result in displaying "an item is missing",
right?
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jul 19, 2022 21:37
 Subject: Re: 100% not possible? Wanted: 0, Have: -
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In Suggestions, Zongeh writes:
  […]
If i Want 0 and i Have 0, i am happy, right? The result should intuitively be
100%.

I know i could simply remove the item, but it would be more tedious to re-add
it later than simply change the Want quantity. Changing Have to 1, even if i
don't have the item is a possible - but counter-intuitive - workaround.

In my opinion, setting Want to 0 should count this specific item as fullfilled,
regardless of Have (including Have: 0).

Note that I was only describing how it works.  I can’t change it

I think the rationale is simply that if the item is in a WL, it means you want
at least one.

Maybe also to prevent user errors: “eh, the item is in my WL but it’s not found/bought!”

Note that you can also move the item to another WL.  This way you can even keep
a real quantity and search/buy this WL only when you want.
You can buy/search multiple WLs at once.
 Author: Zongeh View Messages Posted By Zongeh
 Posted: Jul 19, 2022 21:56
 Subject: Re: 100% not possible? Wanted: 0, Have: -
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Zongeh (19)

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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, Zongeh writes:
  […]
If i Want 0 and i Have 0, i am happy, right? The result should intuitively be
100%.

I know i could simply remove the item, but it would be more tedious to re-add
it later than simply change the Want quantity. Changing Have to 1, even if i
don't have the item is a possible - but counter-intuitive - workaround.

In my opinion, setting Want to 0 should count this specific item as fullfilled,
regardless of Have (including Have: 0).

Note that I was only describing how it works.  I can’t change it

I think the rationale is simply that if the item is in a WL, it means you want
at least one.

Maybe also to prevent user errors: “eh, the item is in my WL but it’s not found/bought!”

Note that you can also move the item to another WL.  This way you can even keep
a real quantity and search/buy this WL only when you want.
You can buy/search multiple WLs at once.

Valid points.

I'm new here so i did not notice the possibility to move items between WLs,
yet. Thanks!

(Maybe it should not be possible to set Want to 0, which would prevent user errors
and my confusion about the "wrong" progress bar?)
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jul 19, 2022 22:05
 Subject: Re: 100% not possible? Wanted: 0, Have: -
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In Suggestions, Zongeh writes:
  […]
I'm new here so i did not notice the possibility to move items between WLs,
yet. Thanks!

Don’t hesitate to play around and try or ask questions on the forum.
There’s lots of hidden features to find


  (Maybe it should not be possible to set Want to 0, which would prevent user errors
and my confusion about the "wrong" progress bar?)

Good point.  If they don’t want us to set Want to 0, they should prevent us to
do so.
 Author: jek View Messages Posted By jek
 Posted: Sep 8, 2022 04:01
 Subject: Re: 100% not possible? Wanted: 0, Have: -
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jek (104)

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I agree that if I want 0, then I don't want any, and have=0 means fulfilled.

Sometimes I would like to keep an item in a WL but with want=0, but not only
will it not show 100% completion, also those parts will appear, with incorrect
wanted=1, if I click the Buy-all button.

I personally do not think "people might accidentally set want=0 when they mean
want=1" is a valid reason. People might as well set 0 when they want 4, or
2 when they want 7, or a million other things. The times when that assumption
causes things to become what was intended are most likely less than the times
it causes (or keeps) things not to be.

One could mark want=0 with a color in the WL (similar to how want is color-coded)
to help people spot unintentional zeroes.