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 Author: Joshua.Burrier View Messages Posted By Joshua.Burrier
 Posted: Feb 20, 2022 11:53
 Subject: List of renamed/recategorized items.
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Joshua.Burrier (1942)

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As you clean up the sight, things get renamed or re-categorized on the site,
but I'm not notified and can move the parts in my physical inventory boxes
accordingly.

"Wait, that part was Minifigures, Weapon, Spacegun. Now it's in Minifigures,
weapon, gun. And now I have to refund the customer because I can't find
it. Or what is currently a 1x1 Technic, Liftarm used to be in Technic and Technic,
Connectors."

Please, when you move something, tell us. Make a list.

Thanks,
Joshua
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Feb 20, 2022 12:01
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1001bricks (52243)

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In Suggestions, Joshua.Burrier writes:
  As you clean up the sight, things get renamed or re-categorized on the site,
but I'm not notified and can move the parts in my physical inventory boxes
accordingly.

Oh Gosh

While that still could be a problem, the idea is DO NOT use Categories to organize
your Shop Inventory.

At least use the Remarks field - and BrickStore
(some may start to think I've Stock Options there...)

You can put drawer 12 : "#DR12" in Remark for example.
It won't change (unless you change it).
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Feb 21, 2022 06:00
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Teup (6590)

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In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:
  In Suggestions, Joshua.Burrier writes:
  As you clean up the sight, things get renamed or re-categorized on the site,
but I'm not notified and can move the parts in my physical inventory boxes
accordingly.

Oh Gosh

While that still could be a problem, the idea is DO NOT use Categories to organize
your Shop Inventory.

At least use the Remarks field - and BrickStore
(some may start to think I've Stock Options there...)

You can put drawer 12 : "#DR12" in Remark for example.
It won't change (unless you change it).

That's just your personal method and opinion. I have soooo many benefits
to category based sorting that remark based sorting seems really stupid to me
 Author: qwertyboy View Messages Posted By qwertyboy
 Posted: Feb 21, 2022 10:47
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In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:
  In Suggestions, Joshua.Burrier writes:
  As you clean up the sight, things get renamed or re-categorized on the site,
but I'm not notified and can move the parts in my physical inventory boxes
accordingly.

Oh Gosh

While that still could be a problem, the idea is DO NOT use Categories to organize
your Shop Inventory.

At least use the Remarks field - and BrickStore
(some may start to think I've Stock Options there...)

You can put drawer 12 : "#DR12" in Remark for example.
It won't change (unless you change it).

That's just your personal method and opinion. I have soooo many benefits
to category based sorting that remark based sorting seems really stupid to me


+1

Niek.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Feb 21, 2022 11:17
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  That's just your personal method and opinion. I have soooo many benefits
to category based sorting that remark based sorting seems really stupid to me


Sorting is way faster when you're searching something different.

Imagine you're searching for a Black small part in a stack of Black parts
on your table.
It'll be long, tedious and subject to errors.

Now if you're searching for the same part in between many different colors,
it'll be different and way faster.
And if it's the only Black part, then there couldn't be any possible
error.

Of course - but in both cases - assuming your inventory is correct.

In short, searching 1 Torso in between a drawer of 50 different bags of torsos
is like the above solution.

At the contrary, if it's the only bag of Torsos in a drawer with bags of
different parts, you don't have to think at search; your visual search is
optimal, and you read the sticker just to be sure, you don't have to search
using the stickers (reading is long and subject to errors).

Conclusion: I don't sort by Color neither by Category; it's way better.

And it may be an error to think this is stupid

Sylvain
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Feb 21, 2022 11:44
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In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:
  
  That's just your personal method and opinion. I have soooo many benefits
to category based sorting that remark based sorting seems really stupid to me


Sorting is way faster when you're searching something different.

Imagine you're searching for a Black small part in a stack of Black parts
on your table.
It'll be long, tedious and subject to errors.

Now if you're searching for the same part in between many different colors,
it'll be different and way faster.
And if it's the only Black part, then there couldn't be any possible
error.

Of course - but in both cases - assuming your inventory is correct.

In short, searching 1 Torso in between a drawer of 50 different bags of torsos
is like the above solution.

At the contrary, if it's the only bag of Torsos in a drawer with bags of
different parts, you don't have to think at search; your visual search is
optimal, and you read the sticker just to be sure, you don't have to search
using the stickers (reading is long and subject to errors).

Conclusion: I don't sort by Color neither by Category; it's way better.

And it may be an error to think this is stupid

Sylvain

Not sure if I see the analogy with colour, but on the topic of colour: I've
noticed that most of my many-lot orders have the same part in multiple colours,
so I get them all out of the same bag. (And there's no need to waste time
searching, either, because the bags are transparent and none are so big that
you can't see the part you need) - just one out of many advantages of category
based sorting.

Well, I'm exaggerating saying it's 'stupid', I know it's
not As clearly many sellers are doing it, so clearly it works for many people.
It's just something I don't understand well, because I haven't learned
how to do it, because I don't have any problems that it could solve. I don't
understand how the remarks get there in the first place (in a way that doesn't
require lots of extra manual labour), or how it works when a lot grows bigger
so you need a different location for it, or what the chronology of the workflow
is when you add parts while some already have locations and some don't. Probably
interesting to watch a video on how it works sometime, but as I said I don't
have any problems - I can stock parts immediately and pick the immediately -
so there isn't really much I could gain from that method even if it was perfect
and remarks were all automatic.

One exception though is minifig parts, your torso example is a good one. I've
got those sorted on minifigure series number, or year, as it would be too
much in one category otherwise. So I am kind of using remarks there. But it's
extra work that's only really worth it for problematic categories like those.
 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: Feb 20, 2022 12:11
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In Suggestions, Joshua.Burrier writes:
  As you clean up the sight, things get renamed or re-categorized on the site,
but I'm not notified and can move the parts in my physical inventory boxes
accordingly.

"Wait, that part was Minifigures, Weapon, Spacegun. Now it's in Minifigures,
weapon, gun. And now I have to refund the customer because I can't find
it. Or what is currently a 1x1 Technic, Liftarm used to be in Technic and Technic,
Connectors."

Please, when you move something, tell us. Make a list.

Thanks,
Joshua

The list already exists, it is called the catalog change log:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?viewYear=2022&viewMonth=2&viewGeDate=&q=&viewStatus=A&itemType=&viewAction=P
 Author: Joshua.Burrier View Messages Posted By Joshua.Burrier
 Posted: Feb 21, 2022 05:47
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That's a list made by users after the fact. I would like a list made by
the people who do the moving.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Feb 21, 2022 05:55
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In Suggestions, Joshua.Burrier writes:
  That's a list made by users after the fact. I would like a list made by
the people who do the moving.

No, it’s not “made by users after the fact.”

That list is automatically compiled from the changes that were accepted:
— manual: a user files a change request,
— manual: an admin accepts it,
— automatic: the request is applied and goes into the log.
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Feb 20, 2022 13:23
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In Suggestions, Joshua.Burrier writes:
  As you clean up the sight, things get renamed or re-categorized on the site,
but I'm not notified and can move the parts in my physical inventory boxes
accordingly.

"Wait, that part was Minifigures, Weapon, Spacegun. Now it's in Minifigures,
weapon, gun. And now I have to refund the customer because I can't find
it. Or what is currently a 1x1 Technic, Liftarm used to be in Technic and Technic,
Connectors."

Please, when you move something, tell us. Make a list.

Thanks,
Joshua

I also sort my store by Category. It's convenient and makes sense to me.
You have to do a bit of homework to keep it up to date:

1) You can check the Change Log on any part you are having trouble with. It's
on the bottom right-hand corner of any catalog item page. If you can't find
a part in an order right away, check there first! It saves a bunch of time.

2) You can keep on eye on Category changes by looking on the main Market page,
What's New, Changes to Items. Search for Item Category Change.

3) Lists were made for major catalog changes. You can see them in the Help pages
under Catalog: 'Movements in Item Type and Category.'

So, they do tell you and they did make a list. It just takes a bit of work/knowledge
to find it.

Good luck,
Jen
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In Suggestions, Joshua.Burrier writes:
  Got Links?

Yes, but the instructions I gave you were specific and I thought some helpful
knowledge of the site might be gained by seeing where all this information is
located.

You can teach a man to fish...


Jen

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?viewYear=&viewMonth=&viewGeDate=&q=&viewStatus=A&itemType=&viewAction=P

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?topicID=21

Here are the actual lists you are looking for:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2508
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2509
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
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In Suggestions, Joshua.Burrier writes:
  As you clean up the sight, things get renamed or re-categorized on the site,
but I'm not notified and can move the parts in my physical inventory boxes
accordingly.

"Wait, that part was Minifigures, Weapon, Spacegun. Now it's in Minifigures,
weapon, gun. And now I have to refund the customer because I can't find
it. Or what is currently a 1x1 Technic, Liftarm used to be in Technic and Technic,
Connectors."

Please, when you move something, tell us. Make a list.

Thanks,
Joshua

Besides the existence of such lists, there are also topics about it in the forum.
As with all important things, the forum is far from an ideal place for communication,
but at least it's something. Oh, there's actually also the catalog newsletter,
which I hope will continue to be a thing.

I agree this is tricky, and that's why the catmins have been doing the more
drastic changes in batches with a notification about it in the forum at least
1 month ahead of the move. Especially if you have to move not just parts but
entire bins/furniture that's very useful.
(However, last time the admin team came in and decided to use that month to think
about whether or not to approve the proposed changes, which of course ruins the
preparation month completely. Hopefully they won't do that again!)