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 Author: Ninepartsred View Messages Posted By Ninepartsred
 Posted: Mar 12, 2021 09:23
 Subject: Option to exclude incomplete instructions
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Ninepartsred (354)

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We have the option to exclude incomplete sets from searches but I'm coming
across a lot of instructions entries that are missing parts and I'd like
to filter them out as I'm looking for complete ones.

I'm not suggesting disallowing individual parts as people may need them to
complete a set.
 Author: Brick.Door View Messages Posted By Brick.Door
 Posted: Mar 12, 2021 09:59
 Subject: Re: Option to exclude incomplete instructions
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In Suggestions, Ninepartsred writes:
  We have the option to exclude incomplete sets from searches but I'm coming
across a lot of instructions entries that are missing parts and I'd like
to filter them out as I'm looking for complete ones.

I'm not suggesting disallowing individual parts as people may need them to
complete a set.

Interesting because incomplete minifigures can't be listed with the catalog
entry - they have to be listed as a custom item. I expect the same rules apply
to instructions.

Currently there is no way for sellers to indicate complete/incomplete except
for sets. So there is no way to flag them in searches. It would require programming
so is unlikely to happen.
 Author: edk View Messages Posted By edk
 Posted: Mar 12, 2021 11:44
 Subject: Re: Option to exclude incomplete instructions
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edk (9165)

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In Suggestions, Brick.Door writes:
  In Suggestions, Ninepartsred writes:
  We have the option to exclude incomplete sets from searches but I'm coming
across a lot of instructions entries that are missing parts and I'd like
to filter them out as I'm looking for complete ones.

I'm not suggesting disallowing individual parts as people may need them to
complete a set.

Interesting because incomplete minifigures can't be listed with the catalog
entry - they have to be listed as a custom item. I expect the same rules apply
to instructions.

Currently there is no way for sellers to indicate complete/incomplete except
for sets. So there is no way to flag them in searches. It would require programming
so is unlikely to happen.

But an incomplete mini-figure can be sold as parts, with multiple instruction
book sets there is no other option, There is a market for only book 1,2,3 etc..
especially in the sets of 6-7 parts. It would be great if there was a method
to break down the instruction sets for the sale of the individual booklets. I
am not holding my breath because the $ value of instruction sales is a very small
amount compared to parts/sets. I list some partials with a clear note in all
caps describing what is included.
 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: Mar 12, 2021 11:57
 Subject: Re: Option to exclude incomplete instructions
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hpoort (410)

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In Suggestions, Brick.Door writes:
  In Suggestions, Ninepartsred writes:
  We have the option to exclude incomplete sets from searches but I'm coming
across a lot of instructions entries that are missing parts and I'd like
to filter them out as I'm looking for complete ones.

I'm not suggesting disallowing individual parts as people may need them to
complete a set.

Interesting because incomplete minifigures can't be listed with the catalog
entry - they have to be listed as a custom item. I expect the same rules apply
to instructions.

Currently there is no way for sellers to indicate complete/incomplete except
for sets. So there is no way to flag them in searches. It would require programming
so is unlikely to happen.

Why would this involve any programming? You don't think an accomplished developer
as Dan would not have such a configuration setting in the database itself? I
would think this only involves the decision to do so, and to set one field value.
 Author: psusaxman2000 View Messages Posted By psusaxman2000
 Posted: Mar 12, 2021 10:05
 Subject: Re: Option to exclude incomplete instructions
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In Suggestions, Ninepartsred writes:
  We have the option to exclude incomplete sets from searches but I'm coming
across a lot of instructions entries that are missing parts and I'd like
to filter them out as I'm looking for complete ones.

I'm not suggesting disallowing individual parts as people may need them to
complete a set.

I don't spend much time search the catalog for instructions, so I'm more
curious than anything. Are you saying you are seeing instructions that are torn
or missing pages? This is the only reason that I would think for having "incomplete"
as an option.

I agree with a previous poster that this would be additional programming that
probably only servers a small purpose and personally if I was looking for instructions
that I couldn't get online and they were "incomplete" or had a note that
they were missing pages, I wouldn't purchase them in the first place so this
feels like a waste of effort personally.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Mar 12, 2021 10:55
 Subject: Re: Option to exclude incomplete instructions
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In Suggestions, psusaxman2000 writes:
  I don't spend much time search the catalog for instructions, so I'm more
curious than anything. Are you saying you are seeing instructions that are torn
or missing pages? This is the only reason that I would think for having "incomplete"
as an option.

Some instructions have multiple booklets, so if one or more are missing that
would be an "incomplete" set of instructions. For example, if you had only 1
or 2 booklets from the following instruction set and wanted to sell them, how
would you list them?

 
Instruction No: 31111  Name: Cyber Drone
* 
31111-1 Cyber Drone
Instructions: Creator: Model: Space Exploration

Of course this is just an example and not a very good one, I doubt many people
are looking for these. But maybe this one?

 
Instruction No: 10182  Name: Café Corner {Cafe}
* 
10182-1 Café Corner {Cafe}
Instructions: Creator: Creator Expert: Modular Buildings Collection
 Author: psusaxman2000 View Messages Posted By psusaxman2000
 Posted: Mar 12, 2021 15:01
 Subject: Re: Option to exclude incomplete instructions
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In Suggestions, peregrinator writes:
  In Suggestions, psusaxman2000 writes:
  I don't spend much time search the catalog for instructions, so I'm more
curious than anything. Are you saying you are seeing instructions that are torn
or missing pages? This is the only reason that I would think for having "incomplete"
as an option.

Some instructions have multiple booklets, so if one or more are missing that
would be an "incomplete" set of instructions. For example, if you had only 1
or 2 booklets from the following instruction set and wanted to sell them, how
would you list them?

 
Instruction No: 31111  Name: Cyber Drone
* 
31111-1 Cyber Drone
Instructions: Creator: Model: Space Exploration

Of course this is just an example and not a very good one, I doubt many people
are looking for these. But maybe this one?

 
Instruction No: 10182  Name: Café Corner {Cafe}
* 
10182-1 Café Corner {Cafe}
Instructions: Creator: Creator Expert: Modular Buildings Collection

Duh (smacks forehead).

I have this set and didn't even think about that.
 
Instruction No: 79003  Name: An Unexpected Gathering
* 
79003-1 An Unexpected Gathering
Instructions: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: The Hobbit
 Author: Ninepartsred View Messages Posted By Ninepartsred
 Posted: Mar 12, 2021 13:55
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Ninepartsred (354)

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In Suggestions, psusaxman2000 writes:
  In Suggestions, Ninepartsred writes:
  We have the option to exclude incomplete sets from searches but I'm coming
across a lot of instructions entries that are missing parts and I'd like
to filter them out as I'm looking for complete ones.

I'm not suggesting disallowing individual parts as people may need them to
complete a set.

I don't spend much time search the catalog for instructions, so I'm more
curious than anything. Are you saying you are seeing instructions that are torn
or missing pages? This is the only reason that I would think for having "incomplete"
as an option.


As peregrinator says, there are often several books that make up the full instructions
for a set, so when I visit stores with those listed, there is sometimes a note
to say, for example, "books 2 & 3 only". In the case of games/gear, it may say
"build instructions only, no rules booklet", or vice-versa.