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 Author: eBricksOnline View Messages Posted By eBricksOnline
 Posted: Jan 12, 2021 15:39
 Subject: Color verification part 40378
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Can someone confirm that this part comes only in flat silver... NOT Pearl Light
Gray? The parts we have look like pearl, not flat silver?

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=40378#T=P
 Author: Stuart9 View Messages Posted By Stuart9
 Posted: Jan 12, 2021 16:00
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Looks like it comes in both.

A large number of sellers offering pearl light grey although it's not listed
in sets, not all of them will have listed them incorrectly.

Many items exist in colours not found in sets.



In Catalog, eBricksOnline writes:
  Can someone confirm that this part comes only in flat silver... NOT Pearl Light
Gray? The parts we have look like pearl, not flat silver?

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=40378#T=P
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jan 12, 2021 16:13
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In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
  Looks like it comes in both.

A large number of sellers offering pearl light grey although it's not listed
in sets, not all of them will have listed them incorrectly.

Many items exist in colours not found in sets.

Sometimes, it’s also due to wrong inventories (colour not yet recognized…) that
were changed after the sellers put their parts in their stores.

Not saying it’s the case here, but it can happen.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jan 12, 2021 16:26
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In Catalog, eBricksOnline writes:
  Can someone confirm that this part comes only in flat silver... NOT Pearl Light
Gray? The parts we have look like pearl, not flat silver?

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=40378#T=P

I would say it comes in both.

The parts from
 
Set No: 76040  Name: Brainiac Attack
* 
76040-1 (Inv) Brainiac Attack
161 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2015
Sets: Super Heroes: Justice League
would definitely be the "new" Flat Silver.

The parts from
 
Set No: 8892  Name: Piraka Outpost
* 
8892-1 (Inv) Piraka Outpost
170 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2006
Sets: BIONICLE: Playsets
and
 
Set No: 8894  Name: Piraka Stronghold
* 
8894-1 (Inv) Piraka Stronghold
547 Parts, 12 Minifigures, 2006
Sets: BIONICLE: Playsets
were probably Pearl Light Gray.

Inventories can be wrong and the split between Pearl Light Gray and Flat Silver
in older inventories was a subjective call by each person doing an inventory
due to the varying nature of the color in different parts back then.
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Jan 12, 2021 16:34
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In Catalog, eBricksOnline writes:
  Can someone confirm that this part comes only in flat silver... NOT Pearl Light
Gray? The parts we have look like pearl, not flat silver?

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=40378#T=P

I just checked the one I have on hand and it is definitely Pearl: sparkly, pale,
marbled.

Flat Silver/Pearl Light Gray issues. I've long since given up on precision
as it's just one of those things.

Jen
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
 Posted: Jan 13, 2021 06:58
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In Catalog, eBricksOnline writes:
  Can someone confirm that this part comes only in flat silver... NOT Pearl Light
Gray? The parts we have look like pearl, not flat silver?

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=40378#T=P

According to the Lego site as far as silver colours go it only shows up as:-

Description Silver Met.
Category Bricks, Special
Element 6097639
Design Number 40378

and Silver Metalic tranlates to Flat Silver on Bricklink but as already mentioned
not all parts/colours belong to a set or are catalogued on the Lego site indefinitely

The situation is then made worse by Bricklink not using Offical Lego colour names/references
which means people can translate them to the Bricklink site and colour palette
incorrectly and so although the part also shows up on BL in Pearl Light Gray
it may be that it only exists in Flat Silver or as Lego call it Silver Metalic.
This is another important reason why using Legos offical colour names should
take precedence over using colour names just because we like the sound of them
better?
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Jan 13, 2021 07:18
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In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
  In Catalog, eBricksOnline writes:
  Can someone confirm that this part comes only in flat silver... NOT Pearl Light
Gray? The parts we have look like pearl, not flat silver?

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=40378#T=P

According to the Lego site as far as silver colours go it only shows up as:-

Description Silver Met.
Category Bricks, Special
Element 6097639
Design Number 40378

and Silver Metalic tranlates to Flat Silver on Bricklink but as already mentioned
not all parts/colours belong to a set or are catalogued on the Lego site indefinitely

The situation is then made worse by Bricklink not using Offical Lego colour names/references
which means people can translate them to the Bricklink site and colour palette
incorrectly and so although the part also shows up on BL in Pearl Light Gray
it may be that it only exists in Flat Silver or as Lego call it Silver Metalic.
This is another important reason why using Legos offical colour names should
take precedence over using colour names just because we like the sound of them
better?

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1098690
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1031456
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
 Posted: Jan 13, 2021 09:29
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
  In Catalog, eBricksOnline writes:
  Can someone confirm that this part comes only in flat silver... NOT Pearl Light
Gray? The parts we have look like pearl, not flat silver?

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=40378#T=P

According to the Lego site as far as silver colours go it only shows up as:-

Description Silver Met.
Category Bricks, Special
Element 6097639
Design Number 40378

and Silver Metalic tranlates to Flat Silver on Bricklink but as already mentioned
not all parts/colours belong to a set or are catalogued on the Lego site indefinitely

The situation is then made worse by Bricklink not using Offical Lego colour names/references
which means people can translate them to the Bricklink site and colour palette
incorrectly and so although the part also shows up on BL in Pearl Light Gray
it may be that it only exists in Flat Silver or as Lego call it Silver Metalic.
This is another important reason why using Legos offical colour names should
take precedence over using colour names just because we like the sound of them
better?

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1098690
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1031456

In the first link you essentially have 3 different colours and they are described
correctly by TLG?

The fact that some of these are slightly different shades I’m sure you are also
aware is common with many other colours too such as Pearl Gold and Yellow though
we don’t separate those or give them their own name either?

If people feel the need to separate those shades even though their tone can vary
to the point that its non conclusive then the comments can always be used saying
Darker/lighter than usual or if it’s a really old colour from a time before Lego
named their colours then I see no issue with Bricklink keeping its own colour
names for those but to purposely use different colour names for the bulk of colours
when TLG have already provided a name for them will always create ambiguity between
different users interpretation of how that matches to bricklinks description
of colours which is detrimental to the accuracy of the catalog? The name of a
colour is like a part number if it does'nt match exactly then you are always
going to run into problems with people guessing or making their own judgments
about what best fits the colour name given by BL?
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jan 13, 2021 14:35
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In Catalog, infinibrix writes:

  The fact that some of these are slightly different shades I’m sure you are also
aware is common with many other colours too such as Pearl Gold and Yellow though
we don’t separate those or give them their own name either?

Yes, we are aware, but none of the current admin team were admins when this problem
was created over 15 years ago. The hope is to move everything pre-2010 Flat Silver
to Pearl Light Gray at some point.