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| | | Author: | Ninepartsred  | | Posted: | Nov 21, 2020 15:39 | | Subject: | Alternate heads | | Viewed: | 88 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| TL;DR version - do the rules about incomplete minifigs also cover substitutions?
I.e. a head that has the same print but a different stud.
Long version - I bought a collection from a family who I know and trust. One
of the sets is an opened but complete
The inventory says the minifigs should have type C blocked open stud heads but
3 of them have type B hollow stud heads.
There aren't any which is supposedly the only one with a type
B head.
I've seen some inventories with a note to say that both stud types have been
found in a particular set or minifigure.
Substitutions, as well as incomplete minifigs, are a pet peeve, and I don't
want to list them if they break the rules. Should I request that the alternate
head be noted in the inventory or should the catalog be updated so that the type
B head is associated with both minifigs?
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| | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Nov 21, 2020 15:56 | | Subject: | Re: Alternate heads | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Ninepartsred writes:
| | TL;DR version - do the rules about incomplete minifigs also cover substitutions?
I.e. a head that has the same print but a different stud.
Long version - I bought a collection from a family who I know and trust. One
of the sets is an opened but complete
The inventory says the minifigs should have type C blocked open stud heads but
3 of them have type B hollow stud heads.
There aren't any which is supposedly the only one with a type
B head.
I've seen some inventories with a note to say that both stud types have been
found in a particular set or minifigure.
Substitutions, as well as incomplete minifigs, are a pet peeve, and I don't
want to list them if they break the rules. Should I request that the alternate
head be noted in the inventory or should the catalog be updated so that the type
B head is associated with both minifigs?
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The minifigures in that set’s production timeline stretched through TLG period
of mold changeover.
It's common here that listings don’t denote this. At some point it should
be addressed, but it's a tough one to confirm definitively.
I list such minifigs with the description "latter production, hollow stud mold
type head"
Some collectors don't care to know, a good percentage do though.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Ninepartsred | | Posted: | Nov 21, 2020 16:12 | | Subject: | Re: Alternate heads | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, popsicle writes:
| | In Inventories, Ninepartsred writes:
| | TL;DR version - do the rules about incomplete minifigs also cover substitutions?
I.e. a head that has the same print but a different stud.
Long version - I bought a collection from a family who I know and trust. One
of the sets is an opened but complete
The inventory says the minifigs should have type C blocked open stud heads but
3 of them have type B hollow stud heads.
There aren't any which is supposedly the only one with a type
B head.
I've seen some inventories with a note to say that both stud types have been
found in a particular set or minifigure.
Substitutions, as well as incomplete minifigs, are a pet peeve, and I don't
want to list them if they break the rules. Should I request that the alternate
head be noted in the inventory or should the catalog be updated so that the type
B head is associated with both minifigs?
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The minifigures in that set’s production timeline stretched through TLG period
of mold changeover.
It's common here that listings don’t denote this. At some point it should
be addressed, but it's a tough one to confirm definitively.
I list such minifigs with the description "latter production, hollow stud mold
type head"
Some collectors don't care to know, a good percentage do though.
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I'm one of the latter. I would always add a comment where there's a notable
difference. I just wasn't sure if I'd be getting a visit from the inventory
police.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Nov 21, 2020 17:19 | | Subject: | Re: Alternate heads | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, Ninepartsred writes:
| | In Inventories, popsicle writes:
| | In Inventories, Ninepartsred writes:
| | TL;DR version - do the rules about incomplete minifigs also cover substitutions?
I.e. a head that has the same print but a different stud.
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Not “substitutions,” “alternates.”
“Substitution” implies the part has been replaced (i.e. original removed, other
part put instead). Therefore substitutions are forbidden (for selling under
an inventory entry).
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| | The minifigures in that set’s production timeline stretched through TLG period
of mold changeover.
It's common here that listings don’t denote this.
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And when it’s done, it’s generally only with a note, as there’s no possibility
for alternates in minifigure inventories and doubling or tripling every minifigure
is not a solution.
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be addressed, but it's a tough one to confirm definitively.
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Yeah, because, for a time, the policy was to use b for every head, even when
it was known it was wrong….
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I'm one of the latter. I would always add a comment where there's a notable
difference. I just wasn't sure if I'd be getting a visit from the inventory
police.
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If you use the terms alternate or variant and not substitution, you should be
okay.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Ninepartsred | | Posted: | Nov 21, 2020 18:31 | | Subject: | Re: Alternate heads | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Inventories, Ninepartsred writes:
| | In Inventories, popsicle writes:
| | In Inventories, Ninepartsred writes:
| | TL;DR version - do the rules about incomplete minifigs also cover substitutions?
I.e. a head that has the same print but a different stud.
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Not “substitutions,” “alternates.”
“Substitution” implies the part has been replaced (i.e. original removed, other
part put instead). Therefore substitutions are forbidden (for selling under
an inventory entry).
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| | The minifigures in that set’s production timeline stretched through TLG period
of mold changeover.
It's common here that listings don’t denote this.
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And when it’s done, it’s generally only with a note, as there’s no possibility
for alternates in minifigure inventories and doubling or tripling every minifigure
is not a solution.
| | | | At some point it should
be addressed, but it's a tough one to confirm definitively.
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Yeah, because, for a time, the policy was to use b for every head, even when
it was known it was wrong….
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I'm one of the latter. I would always add a comment where there's a notable
difference. I just wasn't sure if I'd be getting a visit from the inventory
police.
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If you use the terms alternate or variant and not substitution, you should be
okay.
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Thanks Sylvain. That helps a lot. 
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| | | | | Author: | steverus | | Posted: | Nov 21, 2020 18:49 | | Subject: | Re: Alternate heads | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| I've had same issue with Ninjago figs.
Njo008, Njo020, Njo023 for example.
Inventory lists as a blocked open stud, hollow stud variant is not linked to
any minifig, but listed as an alternative in the set each minifig comes in. I've
just listed as hollow stud variant in comments on listing.
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