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 Author: leonardoverde View Messages Posted By leonardoverde
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These cables were manufactured for the 9751 and RCX and their components. However,
in addition to the color of the pieces (yellow, black, blue) and their length
(11, 15, etc.) there are two different materials in the composition of the cable
jacket. One that looks like rubber and that eventually wears off ... and another
that looks like plastic, shiny and that won't spoil. When we buy a cable
we never know if it is one that will be degraded (even if it is sold as new,
it breaks when first used) or it is made of plastic. I propose that there is
a specific identification for each type of cable in terms of its outer sheath.
What do you think of that?
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
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In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  I propose that there is
a specific identification for each type of cable in terms of its outer sheath.
What do you think of that?

The likelihood of adding new variants at this time is low. However, if you'll
provide a list of the specific cables that come with differing wire sheaths we
can provide additional notes and add them to our unsplit variants list.

It may be helpful to also upload comparison photos for the affected catalog entries.
 Author: leonardoverde View Messages Posted By leonardoverde
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  I propose that there is
a specific identification for each type of cable in terms of its outer sheath.
What do you think of that?

The likelihood of adding new variants at this time is low. However, if you'll
provide a list of the specific cables that come with differing wire sheaths we
can provide additional notes and add them to our unsplit variants list.

It may be helpful to also upload comparison photos for the affected catalog entries.

I understand...
I will see if there is any way to distinguish them unambiguously
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  I propose that there is
a specific identification for each type of cable in terms of its outer sheath.
What do you think of that?

The likelihood of adding new variants at this time is low. However, if you'll
provide a list of the specific cables that come with differing wire sheaths we
can provide additional notes and add them to our unsplit variants list.

It may be helpful to also upload comparison photos for the affected catalog entries.

I believe I have both in 20L. Taken from sealed sets.
 Author: tomsmith View Messages Posted By tomsmith
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In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  These cables were manufactured for the 9751 and RCX and their components. However,
in addition to the color of the pieces (yellow, black, blue) and their length
(11, 15, etc.) there are two different materials in the composition of the cable
jacket. One that looks like rubber and that eventually wears off ... and another
that looks like plastic, shiny and that won't spoil. When we buy a cable
we never know if it is one that will be degraded (even if it is sold as new,
it breaks when first used) or it is made of plastic. I propose that there is
a specific identification for each type of cable in terms of its outer sheath.
What do you think of that?

I have only ever seen the rubber jack version from LEGO. All of the other material
types came from second hand sources where someone else replaced the wire themselves.

If you take pictures of the ends, you can tell that they were opened to replace
the wire.

-Tom
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In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  These cables were manufactured for the 9751 and RCX and their components. However,
in addition to the color of the pieces (yellow, black, blue) and their length
(11, 15, etc.) there are two different materials in the composition of the cable
jacket. One that looks like rubber and that eventually wears off ... and another
that looks like plastic, shiny and that won't spoil. When we buy a cable
we never know if it is one that will be degraded (even if it is sold as new,
it breaks when first used) or it is made of plastic. I propose that there is
a specific identification for each type of cable in terms of its outer sheath.
What do you think of that?

I found an unmistakable way to differentiate cables ... and they are LEGO originals.
The rubber ones do not have the recycling symbol on the contact plate, at the
bottom, (no dull cables), the others have ... I send pictures of two sets of
cable pairs with different sizes of boxes with different dates that I bought
new ones from 9794, one was even sealed in the Lego cardboard box with a red
symbol on the outside. Notice the ones on the left are the ones with plastic
covers (brighter) and have on both contact parts, at the bottom, the recycling
symbol. The ones on the right are made of rubber and do not have this symbol.
Look in your sets if it is or not ... I appreciate your confirmation.
 






 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  These cables were manufactured for the 9751 and RCX and their components. However,
in addition to the color of the pieces (yellow, black, blue) and their length
(11, 15, etc.) there are two different materials in the composition of the cable
jacket. One that looks like rubber and that eventually wears off ... and another
that looks like plastic, shiny and that won't spoil. When we buy a cable
we never know if it is one that will be degraded (even if it is sold as new,
it breaks when first used) or it is made of plastic. I propose that there is
a specific identification for each type of cable in terms of its outer sheath.
What do you think of that?

I found an unmistakable way to differentiate cables ... and they are LEGO originals.
The rubber ones do not have the recycling symbol on the contact plate, at the
bottom, (no dull cables), the others have ... I send pictures of two sets of
cable pairs with different sizes of boxes with different dates that I bought
new ones from 9794, one was even sealed in the Lego cardboard box with a red
symbol on the outside. Notice the ones on the left are the ones with plastic
covers (brighter) and have on both contact parts, at the bottom, the recycling
symbol. The ones on the right are made of rubber and do not have this symbol.
Look in your sets if it is or not ... I appreciate your confirmation.

I repeated your experiment. I separated the 3 I have that seemed like glossy
plastic from the 4 I have that are rubber and then looked at the bottoms. The
glossy plastic ones have that X-ed out symbol. I just noticed this the other
day when I combined some from different sets. It didn't strike me as important
and now I can't tell you what set had what. This is all just concerning
my 20L cables. I have cables of other sizes that I can look at tomorrow.
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  These cables were manufactured for the 9751 and RCX and their components. However,
in addition to the color of the pieces (yellow, black, blue) and their length
(11, 15, etc.) there are two different materials in the composition of the cable
jacket. One that looks like rubber and that eventually wears off ... and another
that looks like plastic, shiny and that won't spoil. When we buy a cable
we never know if it is one that will be degraded (even if it is sold as new,
it breaks when first used) or it is made of plastic. I propose that there is
a specific identification for each type of cable in terms of its outer sheath.
What do you think of that?

I found an unmistakable way to differentiate cables ... and they are LEGO originals.
The rubber ones do not have the recycling symbol on the contact plate, at the
bottom, (no dull cables), the others have ... I send pictures of two sets of
cable pairs with different sizes of boxes with different dates that I bought
new ones from 9794, one was even sealed in the Lego cardboard box with a red
symbol on the outside. Notice the ones on the left are the ones with plastic
covers (brighter) and have on both contact parts, at the bottom, the recycling
symbol. The ones on the right are made of rubber and do not have this symbol.
Look in your sets if it is or not ... I appreciate your confirmation.

I repeated your experiment. I separated the 3 I have that seemed like glossy
plastic from the 4 I have that are rubber and then looked at the bottoms. The
glossy plastic ones have that X-ed out symbol. I just noticed this the other
day when I combined some from different sets. It didn't strike me as important
and now I can't tell you what set had what. This is all just concerning
my 20L cables. I have cables of other sizes that I can look at tomorrow.

thanks...
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In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  These cables were manufactured for the 9751 and RCX and their components. However,
in addition to the color of the pieces (yellow, black, blue) and their length
(11, 15, etc.) there are two different materials in the composition of the cable
jacket. One that looks like rubber and that eventually wears off ... and another
that looks like plastic, shiny and that won't spoil. When we buy a cable
we never know if it is one that will be degraded (even if it is sold as new,
it breaks when first used) or it is made of plastic. I propose that there is
a specific identification for each type of cable in terms of its outer sheath.
What do you think of that?

I found an unmistakable way to differentiate cables ... and they are LEGO originals.
The rubber ones do not have the recycling symbol on the contact plate, at the
bottom, (no dull cables), the others have ... I send pictures of two sets of
cable pairs with different sizes of boxes with different dates that I bought
new ones from 9794, one was even sealed in the Lego cardboard box with a red
symbol on the outside. Notice the ones on the left are the ones with plastic
covers (brighter) and have on both contact parts, at the bottom, the recycling
symbol. The ones on the right are made of rubber and do not have this symbol.
Look in your sets if it is or not ... I appreciate your confirmation.

I repeated your experiment. I separated the 3 I have that seemed like glossy
plastic from the 4 I have that are rubber and then looked at the bottoms. The
glossy plastic ones have that X-ed out symbol. I just noticed this the other
day when I combined some from different sets. It didn't strike me as important
and now I can't tell you what set had what. This is all just concerning
my 20L cables. I have cables of other sizes that I can look at tomorrow.

thanks...

One more thing, "the Part x1676 Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm"
is made with plastic cable and have the symbol of the recycling too... at the
bottom of the plate and in the piece of converter.year 2006.
 


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In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  These cables were manufactured for the 9751 and RCX and their components. However,
in addition to the color of the pieces (yellow, black, blue) and their length
(11, 15, etc.) there are two different materials in the composition of the cable
jacket. One that looks like rubber and that eventually wears off ... and another
that looks like plastic, shiny and that won't spoil. When we buy a cable
we never know if it is one that will be degraded (even if it is sold as new,
it breaks when first used) or it is made of plastic. I propose that there is
a specific identification for each type of cable in terms of its outer sheath.
What do you think of that?

I found an unmistakable way to differentiate cables ... and they are LEGO originals.
The rubber ones do not have the recycling symbol on the contact plate, at the
bottom, (no dull cables), the others have ... I send pictures of two sets of
cable pairs with different sizes of boxes with different dates that I bought
new ones from 9794, one was even sealed in the Lego cardboard box with a red
symbol on the outside. Notice the ones on the left are the ones with plastic
covers (brighter) and have on both contact parts, at the bottom, the recycling
symbol. The ones on the right are made of rubber and do not have this symbol.
Look in your sets if it is or not ... I appreciate your confirmation.

I repeated your experiment. I separated the 3 I have that seemed like glossy
plastic from the 4 I have that are rubber and then looked at the bottoms. The
glossy plastic ones have that X-ed out symbol. I just noticed this the other
day when I combined some from different sets. It didn't strike me as important
and now I can't tell you what set had what. This is all just concerning
my 20L cables. I have cables of other sizes that I can look at tomorrow.

thanks...

One more thing, "the Part x1676 Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm"
is made with plastic cable and have the symbol of the recycling too... at the
bottom of the plate and in the piece of converter.year 2006.

and more.. "Set 9794-2 (Inv) ROBOLAB Team Challenge Set USB (2005 Version)" that
i have, all the eletric pieces, motor 43362, sensor of light (with cable of
plastic) and touch sensor... all have the symbol of recycling (no trash bin)
at the bottom. Only the RCx doesn't have.
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In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  These cables were manufactured for the 9751 and RCX and their components. However,
in addition to the color of the pieces (yellow, black, blue) and their length
(11, 15, etc.) there are two different materials in the composition of the cable
jacket. One that looks like rubber and that eventually wears off ... and another
that looks like plastic, shiny and that won't spoil. When we buy a cable
we never know if it is one that will be degraded (even if it is sold as new,
it breaks when first used) or it is made of plastic. I propose that there is
a specific identification for each type of cable in terms of its outer sheath.
What do you think of that?

I found an unmistakable way to differentiate cables ... and they are LEGO originals.
The rubber ones do not have the recycling symbol on the contact plate, at the
bottom, (no dull cables), the others have ... I send pictures of two sets of
cable pairs with different sizes of boxes with different dates that I bought
new ones from 9794, one was even sealed in the Lego cardboard box with a red
symbol on the outside. Notice the ones on the left are the ones with plastic
covers (brighter) and have on both contact parts, at the bottom, the recycling
symbol. The ones on the right are made of rubber and do not have this symbol.
Look in your sets if it is or not ... I appreciate your confirmation.

I repeated your experiment. I separated the 3 I have that seemed like glossy
plastic from the 4 I have that are rubber and then looked at the bottoms. The
glossy plastic ones have that X-ed out symbol. I just noticed this the other
day when I combined some from different sets. It didn't strike me as important
and now I can't tell you what set had what. This is all just concerning
my 20L cables. I have cables of other sizes that I can look at tomorrow.

thanks...

One more thing, "the Part x1676 Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm"
is made with plastic cable and have the symbol of the recycling too... at the
bottom of the plate and in the piece of converter.year 2006.

and more.. "Set 9794-2 (Inv) ROBOLAB Team Challenge Set USB (2005 Version)" that
i have, all the eletric pieces, motor 43362, sensor of light (with cable of
plastic) and touch sensor... all have the symbol of recycling (no trash bin)
at the bottom. Only the RCx doesn't have.

Well if you can attest to that, then I may be able to trace my rubber ones.
Some of mine definitely came from 9794-2.
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  In Catalog, leonardoverde writes:
  These cables were manufactured for the 9751 and RCX and their components. However,
in addition to the color of the pieces (yellow, black, blue) and their length
(11, 15, etc.) there are two different materials in the composition of the cable
jacket. One that looks like rubber and that eventually wears off ... and another
that looks like plastic, shiny and that won't spoil. When we buy a cable
we never know if it is one that will be degraded (even if it is sold as new,
it breaks when first used) or it is made of plastic. I propose that there is
a specific identification for each type of cable in terms of its outer sheath.
What do you think of that?

I found an unmistakable way to differentiate cables ... and they are LEGO originals.
The rubber ones do not have the recycling symbol on the contact plate, at the
bottom, (no dull cables), the others have ... I send pictures of two sets of
cable pairs with different sizes of boxes with different dates that I bought
new ones from 9794, one was even sealed in the Lego cardboard box with a red
symbol on the outside. Notice the ones on the left are the ones with plastic
covers (brighter) and have on both contact parts, at the bottom, the recycling
symbol. The ones on the right are made of rubber and do not have this symbol.
Look in your sets if it is or not ... I appreciate your confirmation.

I repeated your experiment. I separated the 3 I have that seemed like glossy
plastic from the 4 I have that are rubber and then looked at the bottoms. The
glossy plastic ones have that X-ed out symbol. I just noticed this the other
day when I combined some from different sets. It didn't strike me as important
and now I can't tell you what set had what. This is all just concerning
my 20L cables. I have cables of other sizes that I can look at tomorrow.

thanks...

One more thing, "the Part x1676 Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm"
is made with plastic cable and have the symbol of the recycling too... at the
bottom of the plate and in the piece of converter.year 2006.

and more.. "Set 9794-2 (Inv) ROBOLAB Team Challenge Set USB (2005 Version)" that
i have, all the eletric pieces, motor 43362, sensor of light (with cable of
plastic) and touch sensor... all have the symbol of recycling (no trash bin)
at the bottom. Only the RCx doesn't have.

Well if you can attest to that, then I may be able to trace my rubber ones.
Some of mine definitely came from 9794-2.

Well, I cannot trace my rubber ones because I've had quite a few of these
from different sets and I have sold a lot of them in the last 6 months. But
having them in 9794-2 (2005) is a good hint. Most of my pieces like this came
from late 2003 RoboLab expansion sets.