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 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 14, 2020 21:30
 Subject: Sticker Over Assembly Inventories
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StormChaser (566)

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Randy and Paul,

Have you ever considered allowing inventories for parts in the Sticker over Assembly
category? Some of these titles are ridiculous and the only reason they have
to be like that is because someone long ago decided that these parts shouldn't
have inventories.

 
Part No: BA067pb01  Name: Stickered Assembly 4 x 2 x 1 with Classic Fire Logo Pattern on Both Sides (Stickers) - Set 590 & 374-1 - 1 Plate 1 x 4, 2 Plate 1 x 1, 1 Plate 2 x 2, 1 Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with Tow Ball Socket, Long, 2 Slots
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BA067pb01 Stickered Assembly 4 x 2 x 1 with Classic Fire Logo Pattern on Both Sides (Stickers) - Set 590 & 374-1 - 1 Plate 1 x 4, 2 Plate 1 x 1, 1 Plate 2 x 2, 1 Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with Tow Ball Socket, Long, 2 Slots
Parts: Stickered Assembly

There's only a single good reason that I know of not to inventory the parts:
because individual stickers don't have catalog entries and thus cannot be
included in the inventories.

I wonder if that's reason enough, though. I'm thinking it's not.
Am I missing another reason not to inventory them?

What do you (and anyone else) think?
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 14, 2020 23:32
 Subject: Re: Sticker Over Assembly Inventories
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In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
  Some of these titles are ridiculous

And I see now that a few items have no part inventories at all in their titles:

 
Part No: BA001pb02  Name: Stickered Assembly 3 x 2 x 1 2/3 with Exxon Tank Number 1 on Both Sides Pattern (Stickers) - Set 6375-2 - 2 Plate 2 x 3, 1 Brick 1 x 2, 1 Brick 1 x 3, 1 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 with Headlight
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BA001pb02 Stickered Assembly 3 x 2 x 1 2/3 with Exxon Tank Number 1 on Both Sides Pattern (Stickers) - Set 6375-2 - 2 Plate 2 x 3, 1 Brick 1 x 2, 1 Brick 1 x 3, 1 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 with Headlight
Parts: Stickered Assembly
 
Part No: BA082pb02  Name: Stickered Assembly 3 x 2 x 1 2/3 with Exxon Tank Number 2 on Both Sides Pattern (Stickers) - Set 6375-2 - 2 Plate 2 x 3, 1 Brick 1 x 2, 1 Brick 1 x 3, 1 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 with Headlight
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BA082pb02 Stickered Assembly 3 x 2 x 1 2/3 with Exxon Tank Number 2 on Both Sides Pattern (Stickers) - Set 6375-2 - 2 Plate 2 x 3, 1 Brick 1 x 2, 1 Brick 1 x 3, 1 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 with Headlight
Parts: Stickered Assembly
 
Part No: BA001pb01  Name: Stickered Assembly 3 x 2 x 1 2/3 with Shell Tank Number 1 Pattern (Sticker) - Set 6610 - 2 Plate 2 x 3, 1 Brick 1 x 2, 1 Brick 1 x 3, 1 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 with Headlight
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BA001pb01 Stickered Assembly 3 x 2 x 1 2/3 with Shell Tank Number 1 Pattern (Sticker) - Set 6610 - 2 Plate 2 x 3, 1 Brick 1 x 2, 1 Brick 1 x 3, 1 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 with Headlight
Parts: Stickered Assembly
Marked for Deletion
 
Part No: BA007pb01  Name: Stickered Assembly 8 x 1 x 4 with 'BANK' and Dollar Sign Pattern (Sticker) - Set 6765
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BA007pb01 Stickered Assembly 8 x 1 x 4 with 'BANK' and Dollar Sign Pattern (Sticker) - Set 6765
Parts: Stickered Assembly
 
Part No: BA010pb01  Name: Stickered Assembly 10 x 1 x 2 with 'SHERIFF' Sign Pattern (Sticker) - Sets 6755 / 6764 - 2 Brick 1 x 10
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BA010pb01 Stickered Assembly 10 x 1 x 2 with 'SHERIFF' Sign Pattern (Sticker) - Sets 6755 / 6764 - 2 Brick 1 x 10
Parts: Stickered Assembly

So, the usual inconsistencies unabashedly present themselves.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jan 15, 2020 09:03
 Subject: Re: Sticker Over Assembly Inventories
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In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
  Randy and Paul,

Have you ever considered allowing inventories for parts in the Sticker over Assembly
category?

Honestly, I have never even given a single thought to these parts.

  Some of these titles are ridiculous

Yes, they are. I am in total agreement with you on that.

  and the only reason they have
to be like that is because someone long ago decided that these parts shouldn't
have inventories.

 
Part No: BA067pb01  Name: Stickered Assembly 4 x 2 x 1 with Classic Fire Logo Pattern on Both Sides (Stickers) - Set 590 & 374-1 - 1 Plate 1 x 4, 2 Plate 1 x 1, 1 Plate 2 x 2, 1 Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with Tow Ball Socket, Long, 2 Slots
* 
BA067pb01 Stickered Assembly 4 x 2 x 1 with Classic Fire Logo Pattern on Both Sides (Stickers) - Set 590 & 374-1 - 1 Plate 1 x 4, 2 Plate 1 x 1, 1 Plate 2 x 2, 1 Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with Tow Ball Socket, Long, 2 Slots
Parts: Stickered Assembly

There's only a single good reason that I know of not to inventory the parts:
because individual stickers don't have catalog entries and thus cannot be
included in the inventories.

That is one reason.

  I wonder if that's reason enough, though. I'm thinking it's not.
Am I missing another reason not to inventory them?

The other reasons are the same reasons as for any other part that gets inventoried:
(1) part inventories can't have alternates in them, (2) if there are changes
to the main set inventories, the assembly inventories in the set may have to
be separately maintained, (3) proliferation of notes on items, etc. These are
the reasons why we stopped adding Special Assemblies, because they were becoming
an administrative nightmare.

  What do you (and anyone else) think?

There are a finite number of stickered Brick Assemblies and their inventories
are rather small. I guess I personally would not have a problem with having inventories
for them, but not having the sticker associated with the inventory for a *stickered*
part is a big reason for not having them. How do you stop a seller from just
selling a couple of bricks as a stickered Brick Assembly when the inventory shows
they are in the right even though the sticker is the most important part of the
stickered Brick Assembly? So even though I wouldn't be personally against
it, I believe it is best to keep things as they are.

Cheers,
Randy
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Thank you for taking the time to reply.

In Inventories, randyf writes:
  How do you stop a seller from just
selling a couple of bricks as a stickered Brick Assembly when the inventory shows
they are in the right even though the sticker is the most important part of the
stickered Brick Assembly?

I assumed this would come up, so I prepared a response. First, there will always
be sellers who abuse whatever systems are in place. I think it's fair to
say those sellers are very much in the minority. Most sellers, I would hope,
want to do right by buyers - so most sellers are going to sell what the catalog
entry intends.

Second, this argument could be made for many other catalog entries and inventories.
Yet we still continue to have catalog entries and inventories, trusting that
sellers will do right by buyers. I'm not convinced that the catalog and
its inventories should be structured with bad actors as our primary focus.

  (1) part inventories can't have alternates in them, (2) if there are changes to the main set inventories, the assembly inventories in the set may have to be separately maintained, (3) proliferation of notes on items, etc.

Those are better arguments and I can understand the logic behind them. So maybe
stickered assembly inventories would be too much work to keep up with. I don't
have strong feelings either way.

Just an idea for discussion.