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 Author: HallBricks View Messages Posted By HallBricks
 Posted: Sep 12, 2019 10:44
 Subject: Change time zone
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HallBricks (372)

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It would be great if I could change the time zone on BrickLink. Maybe not the
most necessary feature, but it feels like it wouldn't be that difficult of
a thing to implement.
 Author: calsbricks View Messages Posted By calsbricks
 Posted: Sep 12, 2019 10:55
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In Suggestions, HallBricks writes:
  It would be great if I could change the time zone on BrickLink. Maybe not the
most necessary feature, but it feels like it wouldn't be that difficult of
a thing to implement.

It isn't and this has been around since day 1. Nothing has ever been done
about it.
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Sep 12, 2019 11:16
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In Suggestions, HallBricks writes:
  It would be great if I could change the time zone on BrickLink. Maybe not the
most necessary feature, but it feels like it wouldn't be that difficult of
a thing to implement.

...and actually know when stuff happened on Bricklink? Like knowing when messages
between buyers and sellers were sent, or when an order status changed?! No
way, don't mess with cultural heritage! The internet's last forum without
timezones. It's like living in history! (also because, well, the time stamps
always indicate an earlier time than it is here)
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Sep 12, 2019 15:09
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In Suggestions, HallBricks writes:
  It would be great if I could change the time zone on BrickLink. Maybe not the
most necessary feature, but it feels like it wouldn't be that difficult of
a thing to implement.

You no doubt know of Greenwich mean time, now you get to participate in BL time!

Vad klagar du på?

You're part of a few!

-Cory
 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: Sep 12, 2019 16:36
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In Suggestions, HallBricks writes:
  It would be great if I could change the time zone on BrickLink. Maybe not the
most necessary feature, but it feels like it wouldn't be that difficult of
a thing to implement.

Have you ever thought about it's complexity? See Tom Scott's YouTube
episode about implementing time zones in programming:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5wpm-gesOY

Hans-Peter
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Sep 12, 2019 19:26
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In Suggestions, hpoort writes:
  In Suggestions, HallBricks writes:
  It would be great if I could change the time zone on BrickLink. Maybe not the
most necessary feature, but it feels like it wouldn't be that difficult of
a thing to implement.

Have you ever thought about it's complexity?

Very simple: everything is stored in UTC and presented in a local/chosen TZ.

The UTC → local TZ conversion is done with a standard, well tested library.

There. The complexity is outsourced.

Besides, it’s just about presentation. Official times are those in the database,
on the server, in UTC.


  See Tom Scott's YouTube
episode about implementing time zones in programming:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5wpm-gesOY

I stopped watching after he began talking about DST (“autumn in England”).

And that’s absurd. He talks about a programmer who:
1. doesn’t know what TZs are,
2. adds cases one by one instead of, finally, learning what’s it about,
3. and thus reinvents the wheel, spoke by spoke.

Yes, timezones are complex (and involve politics, therefore also totally insane)
and that’s why you don’t cobble up something in your garage.

Yes, timezones change frequently (remember, politics), but you just update the
TZ data the library uses.

One could do the same kind of video about 3D geometry or any other complex or
complicated but already well known feature.


Just showing a given UTC time in a chosen TZ should be easy peasy.
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Sep 12, 2019 20:15
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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, hpoort writes:
  In Suggestions, HallBricks writes:
  It would be great if I could change the time zone on BrickLink. Maybe not the
most necessary feature, but it feels like it wouldn't be that difficult of
a thing to implement.

Have you ever thought about it's complexity?

Very simple: everything is stored in UTC and presented in a local/chosen TZ.

The UTC → local TZ conversion is done with a standard, well tested library.

There. The complexity is outsourced.

Besides, it’s just about presentation. Official times are those in the database,
on the server, in UTC.


  See Tom Scott's YouTube
episode about implementing time zones in programming:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5wpm-gesOY

I stopped watching after he began talking about DST (“autumn in England”).

And that’s absurd. He talks about a programmer who:
1. doesn’t know what TZs are,
2. adds cases one by one instead of, finally, learning what’s it about,
3. and thus reinvents the wheel, spoke by spoke.

Yes, timezones are complex (and involve politics, therefore also totally insane)
and that’s why you don’t cobble up something in your garage.

Yes, timezones change frequently (remember, politics), but you just update the
TZ data the library uses.

One could do the same kind of video about 3D geometry or any other complex or
complicated but already well known feature.


Just showing a given UTC time in a chosen TZ should be easy peasy.

I thought it would be a sarcastic video. As you say, there's really no need
to reinvent the wheel, this has been done so many times over there must be plenty
of resources you can use very easily.
BrickOwl has timezones, other market platforms have timezones, forums have timezones,
social media have timezones.. and it all works without issues. Bricklink is really
the odd one out.
 Author: HallBricks View Messages Posted By HallBricks
 Posted: Sep 14, 2019 08:36
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In Suggestions, hpoort writes:
  Have you ever thought about it's complexity? See Tom Scott's YouTube
episode about implementing time zones in programming:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5wpm-gesOY

Hans-Peter

Yeah, it might be quite complicated the very first time it's dealt with.
I'm not a programmer so I don't really know, but I that this problem
has been solved on many, many, other websites and I'm sure it could be implemented
on BrickLink as well.