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| | | Author: | brox999  | | Posted: | Nov 13, 2018 21:18 | | Subject: | 60592c01 - whos idea was this? | | Viewed: | 228 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Going back to discussion on alternate parts and the stupid decision to remove
the 3930c01 hing brick assembly from catalog we have above part, the glass fits
four seperate window frames so does that mean each one of those will have multiple
variants for glass colour.
Needs some consistency, the hinge brick parts are available seperately but are
usually in sets in the same colour, hence the assembly as a standard catalog
item. Glass on window frame is not required and will generate lots of unneeded
extra parts for catalog
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| | | | | Author: | Lauren_Luke | | Posted: | Nov 13, 2018 22:18 | | Subject: | Re: 60592c01 - whos idea was this? | | Viewed: | 110 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Nov 13, 2018 23:04 | | Subject: | Re: 60592c01 - whos idea was this? | | Viewed: | 80 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, brox999 writes:
| | Going back to discussion on alternate parts and the stupid decision to remove
the 3930c01 hing brick assembly from catalog we have above part, the glass fits
four seperate window frames so does that mean each one of those will have multiple
variants for glass colour.
Needs some consistency, the hinge brick parts are available seperately but are
usually in sets in the same colour, hence the assembly as a standard catalog
item. Glass on window frame is not required and will generate lots of unneeded
extra parts for catalog
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1 and 2 are kinda old news, right?
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| | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Nov 14, 2018 02:28 | | Subject: | Re: 60592c01 - whos idea was this? | | Viewed: | 74 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, brox999 writes:
I agree.
There were never written standards (of which I was aware, at least) for which
part assemblies should or should not be included in the BrickLink catalog. That
lack has caused confusion and hard feelings and it will change at some point.
It is on the list of things to do (number 18):
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2473
Once the standards are defined, then we can look at adding or removing any assemblies
which do not fit those standards.
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| | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Nov 14, 2018 02:38 | | Subject: | Re: 60592c01 - whos idea was this? | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | Once the standards are defined, then we can look at adding or removing any assemblies
which do not fit those standards.
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Poorly worded, obviously. We can look at adding additional assemblies and/or
removing additional assemblies which do not fit those standards. There will
be a forum discussion about this when the time comes and member input will be
considered.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | brox999 | | Posted: | Nov 15, 2018 04:26 | | Subject: | Re: 60592c01 - whos idea was this? | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | Once the standards are defined, then we can look at adding or removing any assemblies
which do not fit those standards.
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Poorly worded, obviously. We can look at adding additional assemblies and/or
removing additional assemblies which do not fit those standards. There will
be a forum discussion about this when the time comes and member input will be
considered.
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In the meantime perhaps the decision to mark 3930c01 as pending deletion in the
catalog should be reversed as its commonly sold, is in many new sets and I need
the ability to add this part to my store inventory in a new state which I can
not do while marked for deletion with the exception of white which I had in both
New and Used conditions prior to the change.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Nov 15, 2018 07:04 | | Subject: | Re: 60592c01 - whos idea was this? | | Viewed: | 79 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, brox999 writes:
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[3930c01] is in many new sets
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Not.
The hinge brick and the hinge plate always came separated.
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the ability to add this part to my store inventory in a new state […]
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This assembly can’t be New: you have assembled the parts yourself, that’s the
definition of Used.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Nov 15, 2018 08:53 | | Subject: | Re: 60592c01 - whos idea was this? | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, brox999 writes:
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[3930c01] is in many new sets
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Not.
The hinge brick and the hinge plate always came separated.
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the ability to add this part to my store inventory in a new state […]
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This assembly can’t be New: you have assembled the parts yourself, that’s the
definition of Used.
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I agree. This should also make it easier for buyers comparing prices. You don't
need to compare prices of left+right parts and assemblies and, even more important,
it is clear what you should add to a wants list. Whereas if the assembly is in
the catalogue there is a dilemma as to whether you should add one left and one
right, or one assembly to the wants list. This can lead to missing some sellers,
unless they list both types in their inventories.
Presumably this will also apply to turntables such as 3680c0X, 3403c01, 87081c0X,
60474c02X and similar parts where the same problem happens.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | brox999 | | Posted: | Dec 4, 2018 22:31 | | Subject: | Re: 60592c01 - whos idea was this? | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, brox999 writes:
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[3930c01] is in many new sets
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Not.
The hinge brick and the hinge plate always came separated.
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the ability to add this part to my store inventory in a new state […]
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This assembly can’t be New: you have assembled the parts yourself, that’s the
definition of Used.
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Rubbish, putting two brand new, unused parts together does not make them used.
I list the assembly as new if the parts came from a sealed set
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | mhortar | | Posted: | Dec 5, 2018 00:04 | | Subject: | Re: 60592c01 - whos idea was this? | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, brox999 writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, brox999 writes:
| | […]
[3930c01] is in many new sets
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Not.
The hinge brick and the hinge plate always came separated.
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the ability to add this part to my store inventory in a new state […]
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This assembly can’t be New: you have assembled the parts yourself, that’s the
definition of Used.
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Rubbish, putting two brand new, unused parts together does not make them used.
I list the assembly as new if the parts came from a sealed set
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You assembled the parts. That's literally the definition of what makes them
used (previously assembled). You can't build a set and then sell it as 'new,
only assembled once'. There was a big argument a few years ago about whether
stacking bricks/plates at the Pick-A-Brick wall made them 'used' instead
of 'new' (my opinion is yes). There's also the argument that minifigs
can't be sold as 'new' if they are assembled (I'm on the fence
about this one).
Josh
Josh
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Dec 5, 2018 09:17 | | Subject: | Re: 60592c01 - whos idea was this? | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | You assembled the parts. That's literally the definition of what makes them
used (previously assembled). You can't build a set and then sell it as 'new,
only assembled once'. There was a big argument a few years ago about whether
stacking bricks/plates at the Pick-A-Brick wall made them 'used' instead
of 'new' (my opinion is yes). There's also the argument that minifigs
can't be sold as 'new' if they are assembled (I'm on the fence
about this one).
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Just to correct that, the argument about minifigures is can a seller assemble
them and still call them new. There is no argument about can a minifigure be
new if it is assembled - the answer is clearly yes, as in some cases LEGO sells
assembled minifigures and by definition those assembled minifigures can be new
as that is how they were sold.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | littlepb | | Posted: | Dec 5, 2018 11:34 | | Subject: | Re: 60592c01 - whos idea was this? | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, mhortar writes:
| | In Catalog, brox999 writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, brox999 writes:
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[3930c01] is in many new sets
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Not.
The hinge brick and the hinge plate always came separated.
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the ability to add this part to my store inventory in a new state […]
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This assembly can’t be New: you have assembled the parts yourself, that’s the
definition of Used.
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Rubbish, putting two brand new, unused parts together does not make them used.
I list the assembly as new if the parts came from a sealed set
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You assembled the parts. That's literally the definition of what makes them
used (previously assembled). You can't build a set and then sell it as 'new,
only assembled once'. There was a big argument a few years ago about whether
stacking bricks/plates at the Pick-A-Brick wall made them 'used' instead
of 'new' (my opinion is yes). There's also the argument that minifigs
can't be sold as 'new' if they are assembled (I'm on the fence
about this one).
Josh
Josh
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I personally think that assembled hinges can be marked as new because they have
not been taken apart and if a buyer wants separated parts, they can order them
separately. Maybe there should be an option for marking the condition of inventories
as "new but assembled".
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Dec 5, 2018 00:17 | | Subject: | Re: 60592c01 - whos idea was this? | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, brox999 writes:
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[3930c01] is in many new sets
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Not.
The hinge brick and the hinge plate always came separated.
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the ability to add this part to my store inventory in a new state […]
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This assembly can’t be New: you have assembled the parts yourself, that’s the
definition of Used.
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It has been sometime I am thinking about this one:
Does opening the screws (located on the top) and removing the motor housing in
order to check the production date make this old motors used? (these motors were
not sealed in any way, so opening the motor is very easy: one only need to open
the screws)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 5, 2018 07:26 | | Subject: | Re: 60592c01 - whos idea was this? | | Viewed: | 76 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SezaR writes:
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It has been sometime I am thinking about this one:
Does opening the screws (located on the top) and removing the motor housing in
order to check the production date make this old motors used? (these motors were
not sealed in any way, so opening the motor is very easy: one only need to open
the screws)
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Well, the definition says New should have been manipulated for sorting only.
Opening isn’t sorting… unless you sort by production date 
Now, it’s about screws, not clicking plastic parts, so it’s less “Used” than,
say, removing arms from a torso, but some may see it as “Used” nonetheless.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Dec 5, 2018 09:19 | | Subject: | Re: 60592c01 - whos idea was this? | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | It has been sometime I am thinking about this one:
Does opening the screws (located on the top) and removing the motor housing in
order to check the production date make this old motors used? (these motors were
not sealed in any way, so opening the motor is very easy: one only need to open
the screws)
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I'd say used, as there is the possibility of damage when opening it. Of course,
you could test it by applynig power to it, but that makes it used. There will
also be minor wear on the screws, just like clicking two bricks together and
unclicking them causes wear and makes them used.
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