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 Author: mfav View Messages Posted By mfav
 Posted: Oct 29, 2018 15:30
 Subject: Some recessed studs are recessed.
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mfav (174)

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Some Minifig heads have shorter studs and holes that are actually recessed, compared
to other heads where the hole depth is the same as the stud height.

I have no idea where this fits into the Grand Scheme Of Things, but there is
a variation among those "recessed stud" pieces...which may or may not actually
be a misnomer.
 
 Author: BrickCompulsion View Messages Posted By BrickCompulsion
 Posted: Oct 29, 2018 15:45
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  Some Minifig heads have shorter studs and holes that are actually recessed, compared
to other heads where the hole depth is the same as the stud height.

I have no idea where this fits into the Grand Scheme Of Things, but there is
a variation among those "recessed stud" pieces...which may or may not actually
be a misnomer.

How did you even stumble across this !!??
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Oct 29, 2018 17:09
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  Some Minifig heads have shorter studs and holes that are actually recessed, compared
to other heads where the hole depth is the same as the stud height.

Thank you for sharing this. I was not aware of it.

  I have no idea where this fits into the Grand Scheme Of Things

Nor do I. For right now we're going to continue with the project of title
changes. This mold variation can be listed on the page of known mold variants,
though. Give me some more information including comparison photos which show
the actual difference and an idea of how many heads this affects (if you know)
and I'll get it added.
 Author: mfav View Messages Posted By mfav
 Posted: Oct 29, 2018 18:06
 Subject: Re: Some recessed studs are recessed.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Give me some more information including comparison photos which show the actual difference

I don't know how to better show the difference than in the photo I provided
above. If you have some idea how to better illustrate the difference, share,
and I can attempt another photo.


  and an idea of how many heads this affects (if you know)

No idea how many heads are affected.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Oct 29, 2018 18:38
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Give me some more information including comparison photos which show the actual difference

I don't know how to better show the difference than in the photo I provided
above. If you have some idea how to better illustrate the difference, share,
and I can attempt another photo.

The problem with your photo is it’s just lines you drew. Not easy to see for
oneself.

Try a close-up of both studs from an angle so we can see how deep they are?
If the parts are side by side or the same relative size and if you manage to
show the inside border of the studs…

Or maybe insert a common LEGO part and show how far it goes?
This way, anyone could easily do the same.
(A nozzle? They have grips that can help see the length. Better than plain
bars.)
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Oct 29, 2018 18:43
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Give me some more information including comparison photos which show the actual difference

I don't know how to better show the difference than in the photo I provided
above. If you have some idea how to better illustrate the difference, share,
and I can attempt another photo.

The problem with your photo is it’s just lines you drew. Not easy to see for
oneself.

Try a close-up of both studs from an angle so we can see how deep they are?
If the parts are side by side or the same relative size and if you manage to
show the inside border of the studs…

Or maybe insert a common LEGO part and show how far it goes?
This way, anyone could easily do the same.
(A nozzle? They have grips that can help see the length. Better than plain
bars.)

I think the image is pretty good. The hole is the same, but it starts from a
lower stud.

I suspect that this is a mold error/variation. Interesting, but I do not know
if this is a functional difference that needd a new catalog entry.
 Author: mfav View Messages Posted By mfav
 Posted: Oct 29, 2018 19:13
 Subject: Re: Some recessed studs are recessed.
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mfav (174)

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  The problem with your photo is it’s just lines you drew. Not easy to see for oneself.

The purpose of the cyan lines was to show the height of the head compared to
the stud extension. The head on the left has a higher stud extension than the
one on the right.

The purpose of the red line is to emphasize that the right stud is lower

The blue U shaped line shows the depth of the hole.

I'll attach the first image without lines. If you think it's easier to
tell the difference without the lines please let me know.

  Try a close-up of both studs from an angle so we can see how deep they are?

The hole depth is the same on both heads. It's the stud rise that's different.

  If the parts are side by side or the same relative size and if you manage to
show the inside border of the studs…

I doubt shooting top-down is going to emphasize a height difference, but...here
you go.

  Or maybe insert a common LEGO part and show how far it goes?

Parts will go down the same amount as the holes are of uniform depth as far as
I can tell.
 


 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Oct 29, 2018 19:50
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
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I'll attach the first image without lines. If you think it's easier to
tell the difference without the lines please let me know.

*facepalm*
I see it now: I wrongly understood the stud was deeper, not also lower, so I
saw what I wanted to see.
Too many lines for my feeble mind

The last “two-halves” picture you posted is perfect.
 Author: mfav View Messages Posted By mfav
 Posted: Oct 29, 2018 19:22
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maybe this image helps you to understand the stud height difference.
 
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Oct 29, 2018 20:04
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  Some Minifig heads have shorter studs and holes that are actually recessed, compared
to other heads where the hole depth is the same as the stud height.

I have no idea where this fits into the Grand Scheme Of Things, but there is
a variation among those "recessed stud" pieces...which may or may not actually
be a misnomer.

Okay, I've added the information to our known part variant list:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=940

If anyone finds out further information about this issue, let me know.