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 Author: tonnic View Messages Posted By tonnic
 Posted: Oct 20, 2018 12:29
 Subject: Alternate parts are awful.
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tonnic (4348)

Location:  Netherlands, Noord-Holland
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I have 2 Lego education sets, 9348 and 9349.
In both sets the males have head 3626bpb0628 (head with black eyebrows) instead
of 3626bpb0121 (head with brown eyebrows).
In both sets the heads are not even with different eyebrows but also with stud
recessed instead of blocked open stud with triangle.

There is a note below the 22 minifigs of set 9348 regarding the two possible
different heads, not with the set 9349.
Also only a note below the list of 22 minifigs, NOT with the individual minifigs.
Eventhough the minifigs of set 9348 have a note regarding the black instead of
brown eyebrows I think this would not be enough, it does not show on a picture
or with the minifig inventory.
So it is very rudimentary in my opinion.

Although I have the minifigs in hands I do not have the possibility anymore to
upload the right minifigs due to the use of an iPad. Bricklink needs a code below
the minifig and parts, this cannot be done with an iPad.

Bricklink cadmin can make a note below set 9349 like with set 9348 but I think
this is not the real Bricklinkway.
If customers do not read the line below the 22 minifigs they might believe they
received the wrong minifig because inventory does not show the alternate head
and because the note regarding the different heads/eyebrows do not show at the
minifigure itself.

What can be done with this isue due to the lack of a laptop/computer?

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=3626bpb0121&idColor=3#T=C&C=3
And
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/search.page?q=3626bpb0121#T=A


https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=9348-1&viewItemType=M
and
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=9349-1&viewItemType=M
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Oct 20, 2018 12:38
 Subject: Re: Alternate parts are what they are.
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StormChaser (566)

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The big problem with E&D sets is that many of them have lengthy production runs,
resulting in all sorts of changes over time. It's not really practical to
create a new catalog entry for every change, so some compromises must be made
between an overstuffed catalog and an overstuffed inventory.

Give me a few minutes while I see what can be done with the inventories of these
two sets to make things better.
 Author: tonnic View Messages Posted By tonnic
 Posted: Oct 20, 2018 12:48
 Subject: Re: Alternate parts are what they are.
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In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
  The big problem with E&D sets is that many of them have lengthy production runs,
resulting in all sorts of changes over time. It's not really practical to
create a new catalog entry for every change, so some compromises must be made
between an overstuffed catalog and an overstuffed inventory.

Give me a few minutes while I see what can be done with the inventories of these
two sets to make things better.

Thanks already for your quick response!
Ton
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Oct 20, 2018 13:17
 Subject: Re: Alternate parts are what they are.
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In Inventories, tonnic writes:
  Thanks already for your quick response!
Ton

You're welcome! I work for you, you know.

Minifigure inventories, by the way, can't include alternate parts. Okay,
so here is what I did:

1. Every affected minifigure in both sets now include inventory notes.
2. Both sets now include inventory notes.
3. Both sets now include the other heads as alternates. This is a new approach
which Marek and I are trying out.

This should correct all the issues you raised.

Three of the four possible variants have been confirmed to have appeared, so
the fourth variant (black eyebrows, blocked stud: 3626bpb0628) is the only one
I added without having confirmation that it appeared in the sets. I think the
likelihood that this variant would have appeared in these very popular sets at
some point in their production run was high enough to include it.
 Author: tonnic View Messages Posted By tonnic
 Posted: Oct 20, 2018 13:41
 Subject: Re: Alternate parts are what they are.
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tonnic (4348)

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In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories, tonnic writes:
  Thanks already for your quick response!
Ton

You're welcome! I work for you, you know.

Well, you deserve a raise if I could afford it.
I never had a better employee, to be honest, I never ever had an employee but
otherwise you would be my employee of the month!

  
Minifigure inventories, by the way, can't include alternate parts. Okay,
so here is what I did:

1. Every affected minifigure in both sets now include inventory notes.
2. Both sets now include inventory notes.
3. Both sets now include the other heads as alternates. This is a new approach
which Marek and I are trying out.

This should correct all the issues you raised.

Three of the four possible variants have been confirmed to have appeared, so
the fourth variant (black eyebrows, blocked stud: 3626bpb0628) is the only one
I added without having confirmation that it appeared in the sets. I think the
likelihood that this variant would have appeared in these very popular sets at
some point in their production run was high enough to include it.

Thanks for taking care in such a short while!
I will go on putting them in my inventory tomorrow with an extra note and link
to the description.

Have a nice weekend!
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Jun 10, 2021 08:37
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Black eyebrow minifigs have been created for 9348 and the changes are all finished
or pending.

In Inventories, tonnic writes:
  I have 2 Lego education sets, 9348 and 9349.
In both sets the males have head 3626bpb0628 (head with black eyebrows) instead
of 3626bpb0121 (head with brown eyebrows).
In both sets the heads are not even with different eyebrows but also with stud
recessed instead of blocked open stud with triangle.

There is a note below the 22 minifigs of set 9348 regarding the two possible
different heads, not with the set 9349.
Also only a note below the list of 22 minifigs, NOT with the individual minifigs.
Eventhough the minifigs of set 9348 have a note regarding the black instead of
brown eyebrows I think this would not be enough, it does not show on a picture
or with the minifig inventory.
So it is very rudimentary in my opinion.

Although I have the minifigs in hands I do not have the possibility anymore to
upload the right minifigs due to the use of an iPad. Bricklink needs a code below
the minifig and parts, this cannot be done with an iPad.

Bricklink cadmin can make a note below set 9349 like with set 9348 but I think
this is not the real Bricklinkway.
If customers do not read the line below the 22 minifigs they might believe they
received the wrong minifig because inventory does not show the alternate head
and because the note regarding the different heads/eyebrows do not show at the
minifigure itself.

What can be done with this isue due to the lack of a laptop/computer?

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=3626bpb0121&idColor=3#T=C&C=3
And
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/search.page?q=3626bpb0121#T=A


https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=9348-1&viewItemType=M
and
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=9349-1&viewItemType=M