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| | | Author: | Hubby  | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2018 00:08 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 216 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Discarded | |
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| | | | | Author: | mikmo | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2018 08:19 | | Subject: | Re: Block buyers with a different country email p | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I don't think so
How would you handle gmail.com users for instance?, you have no idea which country
they come from.
You could probably do something by looking at the IP address, but people can
hide behind proxy servers etc. so that would not be guaranteed to work either.
Mikael / MikMo
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| | | | | Author: | randyipp | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2018 10:19 | | Subject: | Re: Block buyers with a different country email p | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Hagbart writes:
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Would it be possible to block a buyer having an email from a given country eg
Russia, but his postal address is the UK?
Just got yet another scammers ordering from my shop with this very suspicious
config, even got negative from himfeedback from him.
Or a setting that enables us to block and oblige the buyer to pay buy only with
iban
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Another problem are legit buyers who use forwarders. I suppose some sellers
don't like to do this but I haven't had an issue.
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| | | | | Author: | NicoBuma | | Posted: | Mar 5, 2018 09:13 | | Subject: | Re: Block buyers with a different country email p | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| How'd you know for sure they are scammers? Maybe they are Russians who moved
to the UK, but didn't change their e-mail provider.
I myself have an hotmail.com (US) mailaddress, but live in The Netherlands, so
I would be a scammer too by your definition?
If they pay, it's ok; would be my motto. And yes, if I were you I'd prefer
IBAN as well, as it's a lot more secure than paypal and you as a seller have
a lot more rights, and your own bank has a lot less fees than paypal as well.
In Suggestions, Hagbart writes:
| | Hi
Would it be possible to block a buyer having an email from a given country eg
Russia, but his postal address is the UK?
Just got yet another scammers ordering from my shop with this very suspicious
config, even got negative from himfeedback from him.
Or a setting that enables us to block and oblige the buyer to pay buy only with
iban
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| | | | | | | Author: | Hubby | | Posted: | Oct 12, 2018 10:34 | | Subject: | Re: Block buyers with a different country email p | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, NicoBuma writes:
| | How'd you know for sure they are scammers? Maybe they are Russians who moved
to the UK, but didn't change their e-mail provider.
I myself have an hotmail.com (US) mailaddress, but live in The Netherlands, so
I would be a scammer too by your definition?
If they pay, it's ok; would be my motto. And yes, if I were you I'd prefer
IBAN as well, as it's a lot more secure than paypal and you as a seller have
a lot more rights, and your own bank has a lot less fees than paypal as well.
In Suggestions, Hagbart writes:
| | Hi
Would it be possible to block a buyer having an email from a given country eg
Russia, but his postal address is the UK?
Just got yet another scammers ordering from my shop with this very suspicious
config, even got negative from himfeedback from him.
Or a setting that enables us to block and oblige the buyer to pay buy only with
iban
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Yes true Nico, I'll agree, but just got another fake account ordering from
my shop, that's the second guy from Russia. Just asked 2 things from him.
Provide a proof of his address is legit in france (e.g. electricity bill) and
send the money to my IBAN. After 11 days, no payments nor response....
But just added another faker to my block list.
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| | | | | Author: | alahaka | | Posted: | Oct 12, 2018 12:37 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Oct 12, 2018 13:22 | | Subject: | Re: Block buyers with a different country email p | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, matejo writes:
| | Attempting to associate emails with countries sounds messy, however it seems
that BrickLink could verify member's country addresses against their IP address
location.
I know this is imperfect, not to mention a little big brother-ish, however it
would clean up the accuracy of members' locations and probably reduce order
problems.
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People move. Either for years or only months or even weeks. And the Internet
has no frontier.
Will you force buyers to open a new e-mail account in the country they are while
they had had one for years that works pretty well anywhere in the world?
| | Do IBAN transfers use a particular service? I guess I need to conduct such a
transaction to see how they work. If they can decrease fraud with greater payee
control over funds, that sounds nice.
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So-called “IBAN transfers” are just bank transfers.
When you do a bank transfer, you need to identify the accounts (more precisely,
the banks and the accounts within the banks), so that the banks can talk to each
other. IBAN (International Bank Account Number), is just a scheme to identify
accounts, it’s an international standard, ISO 13616.
One other identifier that’s often used is BIC (Business Identifier Code), which
identifies the bank in the Swift network (an agreement network between banks).
In the olden times (and in remote locations), transfers were (still are) a PITA,
involving letters and faxes to correctly identify and verify who’s who. When
it’s at all possible.
In the modern times (and enlightened countries   ), you just need an IBAN.
There are services that proxies for the banks, like iDEAL (NL-based), making
bank transfers a bit easier than from the bank’s own website, and “instant” (meaning
they can immediately tell the receiver the transfer has been entered).
What’s great in EU is that we created an(other) agreement: SEPA, which states,
among other things, that any payment in Euro in the SEP-Area has to be treated
the same way as a local payment. And as local bank transfers have mostly become
free in the past decades (especially online), that means they are mostly free
for the whole SEP-Area 
So, see if you have an IBAN somewhere in your bank papers, or ask your bank if
you can easily (and cheaply) receive or send international bank transfers with
just an IBAN.
And if your bank can’t or won’t, you can still see if another one does. Opening
an account shouldn’t be expensive, even in the USA. (Don’t you get a free toaster
when you do? That’s what I learned watching US shows )
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | alahaka | | Posted: | Oct 12, 2018 13:41 | | Subject: | Re: Block buyers with a different country email p | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
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People move. Either for years or only months or even weeks. And the Internet
has no frontier.
Will you force buyers to open a new e-mail account in the country they are while
they had had one for years that works pretty well anywhere in the world?
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Hi,
I stated that associating emails with countries would be messy (i.e. I agree
with you), and I was not supporting the original suggestion.
But instead I wondered if BrickLink could verify member addresses against IP
address locations. A recent transaction indicates that PayPal is doing something
like this.
Sorry to cancel my previous post, not knowing if anyone might be replying. This
forum is a lot of (good) clutter, and after posting I weigh the value of my inputs
against adding to the clutter.
Thanks for the IBAN information, Matthew
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Rarah | | Posted: | Oct 15, 2018 11:08 | | Subject: | Re: Block buyers with a different country email p | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, matejo writes:
| | In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
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People move. Either for years or only months or even weeks. And the Internet
has no frontier.
Will you force buyers to open a new e-mail account in the country they are while
they had had one for years that works pretty well anywhere in the world?
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Hi,
I stated that associating emails with countries would be messy (i.e. I agree
with you), and I was not supporting the original suggestion.
But instead I wondered if BrickLink could verify member addresses against IP
address locations. A recent transaction indicates that PayPal is doing something
like this.
Sorry to cancel my previous post, not knowing if anyone might be replying. This
forum is a lot of (good) clutter, and after posting I weigh the value of my inputs
against adding to the clutter.
Thanks for the IBAN information, Matthew
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Please don´t even joke about this! I live in Slovakia spend the year in ASIA
my IP is from Vietnam/Japan/China whatever. I come back home on christmass and
open all my post sent home in the year. I use gmail which has "gmail.com" means
global ... I have enough troubles with money transfers just because some pages
need to have my address locked to IP which I find is the stupidest thing on earth
in 2018 !! Some helpdesk guy even told me to travel home change my country and
come back ... 1200 €for fligh ticket just to change my country of origin if I
have all document with it on them to buy a 10 € token ... oh yes! Please think...
rules like these make a lot of hell for people like me.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | alahaka | | Posted: | Oct 12, 2018 13:55 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | Oct 15, 2018 11:17 | | Subject: | Re: Block buyers with a different country email p | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Hagbart writes:
| | Hi
Would it be possible to block a buyer having an email from a given country eg
Russia, but his postal address is the UK?
Just got yet another scammers ordering from my shop with this very suspicious
config, even got negative from himfeedback from him.
Or a setting that enables us to block and oblige the buyer to pay buy only with
iban
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This is a poorly thought out suggestion. As it is written, it should be tossed.
Having said that, I believe there is a need for better information disclosure.
What would be better, is if the buyer were required to specify their shipping
address, then have two checkboxes under that …
One would be something like "Home address in same country as shipping address".
The other would be "Payment funded from same country as shipping address".
If either is unchecked, then it would be required to specify which country is
correct for that item.
This would not solve the indicated problem, but it would give us better information
to tell what buyers are more likely to be legitimate buyers.
Nita Rae
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| | | | | | | Author: | alahaka | | Posted: | Oct 15, 2018 11:40 | | Subject: | Re: Block buyers with a different country email p | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:
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What would be better, is if the buyer were required to specify their shipping
address, then have two checkboxes under that …
One would be something like "Home address in same country as shipping address".
The other would be "Payment funded from same country as shipping address".
If either is unchecked, then it would be required to specify which country is
correct for that item.
This would not solve the indicated problem, but it would give us better information
to tell what buyers are more likely to be legitimate buyers.
Nita Rae
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I think your suggestion above opens the door toward couriers, which in turn for
some buyers places courier, their packing, and their shipping responsibilities
on sellers, as opposed to ending seller responsibility at courier receipt.
I recognize couriers' value as well as the added risk they can present, and
have no solution at this point.
I do not like things big brother-ish, however admittedly would prefer to not
have the final destination and possible re-packing or breaking down of something
I've packed be secrets.
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| | | | | | | Author: | alahaka | | Posted: | Oct 15, 2018 11:47 | | Subject: | Re: Block buyers with a different country email p | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| So I do agree that your proposal does provide better information, which if valid
eliminates the one of secrets I mentioned.
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