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 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Feb 2, 2018 18:52
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 7199-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7199  Name: The Temple of Doom
* 
7199-1 (Inv) The Temple of Doom
626 Parts, 6 Minifigures, 2009
Sets: Indiana Jones: Temple of Doom

* Add 2 Part 4215b Reddish Brown Panel 1 x 4 x 3 - Hollow Studs (match ID 2)
* Change 2 Part Reddish Brown 60581 Panel 1 x 4 x 3 with Side Supports - Hollow Studs {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 2}

Comments from Submitter:
I found exactly two reddish brown 4215b in a large lot of bricks containing set 7199. These panels can only come from this set because there is not a single reddish brown 60581 in the lot, and there is no trace of neither of the sets 5378 and 10144 (the count of 2 would also be a mismatch for these other sets). Because 4215b is the older version, I've switched 60581 to be the alternate.
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Feb 2, 2018 18:53
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7199-1
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In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7199  Name: The Temple of Doom
* 
7199-1 (Inv) The Temple of Doom
626 Parts, 6 Minifigures, 2009
Sets: Indiana Jones: Temple of Doom

* Add 2 Part 4215b Reddish Brown Panel 1 x 4 x 3 - Hollow Studs (match ID 2)
* Change 2 Part Reddish Brown 60581 Panel 1 x 4 x 3 with Side Supports - Hollow Studs {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 2}

Comments from Submitter:
I found exactly two reddish brown 4215b in a large lot of bricks containing set 7199. These panels can only come from this set because there is not a single reddish brown 60581 in the lot, and there is no trace of neither of the sets 5378 and 10144 (the count of 2 would also be a mismatch for these other sets). Because 4215b is the older version, I've switched 60581 to be the alternate.
 
 Author: tEoS View Messages Posted By tEoS
 Posted: Feb 2, 2018 19:22
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7199-1
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Sorry, but I don't think a misc lot of parts is a good justification for
this change to a verified inventory.

But of course, I don't really have any say.

  Comments from Submitter:
I found exactly two reddish brown 4215b in a large lot of bricks containing set 7199. These panels can only come from this set because there is not a single reddish brown 60581 in the lot, and there is no trace of neither of the sets 5378 and 10144 (the count of 2 would also be a mismatch for these other sets). Because 4215b is the older version, I've switched 60581 to be the alternate.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Feb 3, 2018 04:28
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7199-1
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In Inventories Requests, tEoS writes:
  Sorry, but I don't think a misc lot of parts is a good justification for
this change to a verified inventory.

But of course, I don't really have any say.

Although the alternate parts could certainly have been included in the set, I
agree that a used lot should not generally be considered a reliable source.
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Feb 3, 2018 06:17
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, tEoS writes:
  Sorry, but I don't think a misc lot of parts is a good justification for
this change to a verified inventory.

But of course, I don't really have any say.

Although the alternate parts could certainly have been included in the set, I
agree that a used lot should not generally be considered a reliable source.

Then please keep my request for future reference. At some point, someone may
ask for the same change again.

/Jan
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Feb 3, 2018 06:19
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7199-1
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In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
  In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, tEoS writes:
  Sorry, but I don't think a misc lot of parts is a good justification for
this change to a verified inventory.

But of course, I don't really have any say.

Although the alternate parts could certainly have been included in the set, I
agree that a used lot should not generally be considered a reliable source.

Then please keep my request for future reference. At some point, someone may
ask for the same change again.

/Jan

And BTW - Peeron also says 4215b.

/Jan
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Feb 5, 2018 04:53
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In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
  Then please keep my request for future reference. At some point, someone may
ask for the same change again.

I'm sorry, but I'm not going to let requests sit around for months or
years on end just because they might or might not be valid. Change requests
should only be submitted when the submitter is confident that the request is
accurate and has solid, articulable reasons for that confidence.

However, some good news on this request: it has been approved. I was able to
find a review on Eurobricks from the time the set was released which showed the
part you're asking for (see photo).

Additionally, the inventory change log for this set shows that the part was originally
included by the person who did the set inventory and was changed to the part
with side supports on December 5th, 2011 by member locker47. Also, as you point
out, the Peeron inventory shows a MISB set as the source and includes 4259b (although
I do not consider Peeron a conclusive source in isolation).

Anyway, thanks for finding this and submitting it.
 
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Feb 5, 2018 19:02
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
  Then please keep my request for future reference. At some point, someone may
ask for the same change again.

I'm sorry, but I'm not going to let requests sit around for months or
years on end just because they might or might not be valid. Change requests
should only be submitted when the submitter is confident that the request is
accurate and has solid, articulable reasons for that confidence.

However, some good news on this request: it has been approved. I was able to
find a review on Eurobricks from the time the set was released which showed the
part you're asking for (see photo).

Additionally, the inventory change log for this set shows that the part was originally
included by the person who did the set inventory and was changed to the part
with side supports on December 5th, 2011 by member locker47. Also, as you point
out, the Peeron inventory shows a MISB set as the source and includes 4259b (although
I do not consider Peeron a conclusive source in isolation).

Anyway, thanks for finding this and submitting it.

Thank you for digging into this.

/Jan