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 Author: oracle271 View Messages Posted By oracle271
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oracle271 (807)

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I think it should be required that sellers who smoke must post a prominent note
in their store.

Or if sellers who do not smoke sell parts that smell of smoke, that should be
listed on the part.

Getting parts that smell of smoke requires a lot of work by the buyer to remove
the odor, and we should know what we are getting into before buying. Not to mention
that when a seller does not disclose that they are a smoker, they are basically
lying about the condition of the parts.

I am really tired of getting stinky parts.

Sure, some sellers might be tempted to lie about about it, but users would complain.
Then sellers who smoke and fail to disclose their smoking should be treated with
the warning/termination policy applied to buying/selling offences.
 Author: DINKACOLs View Messages Posted By DINKACOLs
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Positive, Neutral, Negative... When you leave feedback it will help out other
buyers. No matter what you rate the transaction you should definitely make note
of smoke smell.

In Suggestions, oracle271 writes:
  I think it should be required that sellers who smoke must post a prominent note
in their store.

Or if sellers who do not smoke sell parts that smell of smoke, that should be
listed on the part.

Getting parts that smell of smoke requires a lot of work by the buyer to remove
the odor, and we should know what we are getting into before buying. Not to mention
that when a seller does not disclose that they are a smoker, they are basically
lying about the condition of the parts.

I am really tired of getting stinky parts.

Sure, some sellers might be tempted to lie about about it, but users would complain.
Then sellers who smoke and fail to disclose their smoking should be treated with
the warning/termination policy applied to buying/selling offences.
 Author: oracle271 View Messages Posted By oracle271
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oracle271 (807)

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Very true, feedback can be powerful, but it also requires that you read through
it, and there is no guarantee that buyers will mention smoke smell.

In Suggestions, DINKACOLs writes:
  Positive, Neutral, Negative... When you leave feedback it will help out other
buyers. No matter what you rate the transaction you should definitely make note
of smoke smell.

In Suggestions, oracle271 writes:
  I think it should be required that sellers who smoke must post a prominent note
in their store.

Or if sellers who do not smoke sell parts that smell of smoke, that should be
listed on the part.

Getting parts that smell of smoke requires a lot of work by the buyer to remove
the odor, and we should know what we are getting into before buying. Not to mention
that when a seller does not disclose that they are a smoker, they are basically
lying about the condition of the parts.

I am really tired of getting stinky parts.

Sure, some sellers might be tempted to lie about about it, but users would complain.
Then sellers who smoke and fail to disclose their smoking should be treated with
the warning/termination policy applied to buying/selling offences.
 Author: Play_It_Again View Messages Posted By Play_It_Again
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The worst thing is ordering new instructions from a seller and having them show
up stinking of smoke. Parts you can clean, instructions are a bit more difficult
and become yellowed. Had this happen twice now from relatively high rated sellers
who ultimately extorted feedback and threatened negative.
 Author: oracle271 View Messages Posted By oracle271
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oracle271 (807)

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Exactly! Some parts are difficult to clean depending on what they are made of,
or impossible to clean if they have stickers.


In Suggestions, monica4391 writes:
  The worst thing is ordering new instructions from a seller and having them show
up stinking of smoke. Parts you can clean, instructions are a bit more difficult
and become yellowed. Had this happen twice now from relatively high rated sellers
who ultimately extorted feedback and threatened negative.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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Sellers and non-sellers who smoke should stop smoking.

n Suggestions, oracle271 writes:
  I think it should be required that sellers who smoke must post a prominent note
in their store.

Or if sellers who do not smoke sell parts that smell of smoke, that should be
listed on the part.

Getting parts that smell of smoke requires a lot of work by the buyer to remove
the odor, and we should know what we are getting into before buying. Not to mention
that when a seller does not disclose that they are a smoker, they are basically
lying about the condition of the parts.

I am really tired of getting stinky parts.

Sure, some sellers might be tempted to lie about about it, but users would complain.
Then sellers who smoke and fail to disclose their smoking should be treated with
the warning/termination policy applied to buying/selling offences.
 Author: SoCal_Bricks View Messages Posted By SoCal_Bricks
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The other site has a "Smoke free store" feature. Maybe that can be implemented
here.

In Suggestions, oracle271 writes:
  I think it should be required that sellers who smoke must post a prominent note
in their store.

Or if sellers who do not smoke sell parts that smell of smoke, that should be
listed on the part.

Getting parts that smell of smoke requires a lot of work by the buyer to remove
the odor, and we should know what we are getting into before buying. Not to mention
that when a seller does not disclose that they are a smoker, they are basically
lying about the condition of the parts.

I am really tired of getting stinky parts.

Sure, some sellers might be tempted to lie about about it, but users would complain.
Then sellers who smoke and fail to disclose their smoking should be treated with
the warning/termination policy applied to buying/selling offences.
 Author: cdgreen040 View Messages Posted By cdgreen040
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I agree. I received a big order and it all stinks. What is the best way to
get the smell out, or is it even possible?

Carl


In Suggestions, oracle271 writes:
  I think it should be required that sellers who smoke must post a prominent note
in their store.

Or if sellers who do not smoke sell parts that smell of smoke, that should be
listed on the part.

Getting parts that smell of smoke requires a lot of work by the buyer to remove
the odor, and we should know what we are getting into before buying. Not to mention
that when a seller does not disclose that they are a smoker, they are basically
lying about the condition of the parts.

I am really tired of getting stinky parts.

Sure, some sellers might be tempted to lie about about it, but users would complain.
Then sellers who smoke and fail to disclose their smoking should be treated with
the warning/termination policy applied to buying/selling offences.
 Author: Brickitty View Messages Posted By Brickitty
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In Suggestions, cdgreen040 writes:
  I agree. I received a big order and it all stinks. What is the best way to
get the smell out, or is it even possible?

Carl

Yes, it's possible with all non-cloth, non-rubber, and non-electric parts,
in my experience. Unfortunately, I can never completely get the smell out of
tires.

Simply soak plastic parts in a mix of white vinegar and water -- I use a
proportion of 5:1 water:vinegar. For parts that only smell lightly of smoke,
24-48 hours is enough, followed by a thorough rinse and air-dry in a well-ventilated
area. The latter will help get rid of the vinegar smell, though it'll fade
over a few weeks anyway if you don't seal the pieces in anything.

For extremely smokey parts, I've soaked them up to 5 separate 48-hour sessions,
at least one session in pure vinegar, soaking them in soap-and-water for a few
hours in between each session. Make sure not to use soap-and-water after vinegar
though, as it'll leave water spots, whereas vinegar will leave a beautiful
sheen that's worth the slight smell.

Rubbing alcohol also works, but vinegar is much cheaper.
 Author: TheBrickGuys View Messages Posted By TheBrickGuys
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It also helps to put Jet Dry in the rinsing water, not with the small but with
helping the parts to dry water spot free.

When we wash used parts, after spray rinsing, we take a container filled with
water and add a good amount of jet dry to it. We fill up a fine strainer with
lego and dip them into the solution. We then lay them out on a large towel an
point a fan on them. The parts come out beautiful - no water spots at all! We
have very hard water so the difference that the Jet Dry makes is very substantial.

Jim
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In Suggestions, oracle271 writes:
  I think it should be required that sellers who smoke must post a prominent note
in their store.

Or if sellers who do not smoke sell parts that smell of smoke, that should be
listed on the part.

Getting parts that smell of smoke requires a lot of work by the buyer to remove
the odor, and we should know what we are getting into before buying. Not to mention
that when a seller does not disclose that they are a smoker, they are basically
lying about the condition of the parts.

I am really tired of getting stinky parts.

Sure, some sellers might be tempted to lie about about it, but users would complain.
Then sellers who smoke and fail to disclose their smoking should be treated with
the warning/termination policy applied to buying/selling offences.

I'm such a wuss when it comes to smoke... can't stand being around the
smell... I too would be upset if I got stinky parts.... that sounds funny
 Author: 16thlevelbricks View Messages Posted By 16thlevelbricks
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As a smoker, I agree.

I don't smoke inside my home (That's where I keep my stuff!). I can't
stand the smell of smoke on my things, if you can believe it.
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In Suggestions, FergH0va writes:
  As a smoker, I agree.

I don't smoke inside my home (That's where I keep my stuff!). I can't
stand the smell of smoke on my things, if you can believe it.

Are you sure you still have a sense of smell?
I’ve known smokers who allways smoked outside, drove with open windows even in
deep winter, etc., their homes and cars (and selves) still smelled like old ashtrays.
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Oh, I'm positive my nose still works. I can smell it on myself when I've
smoked more than usual (just a few times a day), smell my babies' poopie
diapers, smell it on parts that I get coming in.
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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, FergH0va writes:
  As a smoker, I agree.

I don't smoke inside my home (That's where I keep my stuff!). I can't
stand the smell of smoke on my things, if you can believe it.

Are you sure you still have a sense of smell?
I’ve known smokers who allways smoked outside, drove with open windows even in
deep winter, etc., their homes and cars (and selves) still smelled like old ashtrays.

I have to agree with you , I smoked 40 years . I stopped 5 years ago , if there
is a smoker in my neighborhood I have to wolk away from the person .
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In Suggestions, FergH0va writes:
  As a smoker, I agree.

I don't smoke inside my home (That's where I keep my stuff!). I can't
stand the smell of smoke on my things, if you can believe it.

I'm exactly the same, Ferg - I totally get it, I've smoked outside for
years before it became the law in my state. I don't even like the smell on
me (I always wash my hands afterward).
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BrickOwl has a feature where you can declare your store smoke free.

Bricklink should implement something similar and of course; this will not stop
people lying about it. I don't think anyone will admit 'hey my parts
smell of smoke, buy them' but then again. That's what feedback is for.

I've seen a few stores now, big ones too and most of their negatives are
regarding the smell of smoke. Personally I'd avoid them stores.
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In Suggestions, oracle271 writes:
  I think it should be required that sellers who smoke must post a prominent note
in their store.

Or if sellers who do not smoke sell parts that smell of smoke, that should be
listed on the part.

Getting parts that smell of smoke requires a lot of work by the buyer to remove
the odor, and we should know what we are getting into before buying. Not to mention
that when a seller does not disclose that they are a smoker, they are basically
lying about the condition of the parts.

I am really tired of getting stinky parts.

Sure, some sellers might be tempted to lie about about it, but users would complain.
Then sellers who smoke and fail to disclose their smoking should be treated with
the warning/termination policy applied to buying/selling offences.

BrickOwl has that, but I wonder.. I am not a smoker, but to be honest, how big
a deal is it really?? I recall receiving orders that smell of smoke, well,
ok so then you smell smoke. Some smell like perfume. Then you start MOCing and
forget about it.
Or is the smell really that persistent? How long exactly do you keep smelling
it? Because to be honest I don't recall still smelling it after a day or
two. Maybe I just forgot, but now I'm curious.
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it is always in the eye of the beholder.
I, as a smoker (just outside our apartment), may not really take it when I buy
used legos that come from a smoker's household, and a non-smoker immediately
notices it.
But what about somebody who is a smoker just out of his lego collection and used
lego collections, who will not smell it coming from a smoker household.
He then offers those parts he does not need via bricklink.
1. he does not notice
2. he does not smoke in his lego work area = non-smoking shop
3. non-smoking customers receive the goods and they notice immediately.
what is then ???


In Suggestions, oracle271 writes:
  I think it should be required that sellers who smoke must post a prominent note
in their store.

Or if sellers who do not smoke sell parts that smell of smoke, that should be
listed on the part.

Getting parts that smell of smoke requires a lot of work by the buyer to remove
the odor, and we should know what we are getting into before buying. Not to mention
that when a seller does not disclose that they are a smoker, they are basically
lying about the condition of the parts.

I am really tired of getting stinky parts.

Sure, some sellers might be tempted to lie about about it, but users would complain.
Then sellers who smoke and fail to disclose their smoking should be treated with
the warning/termination policy applied to buying/selling offences.
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In Suggestions, firelordi writes:
  it is always in the eye of the beholder.

  3. non-smoking customers receive the goods and they notice immediately.
what is then ???

If you sell parts and they smell of smoke for whatever reason then it will be
a problem.

Even if you don't smoke near them , it is likely that they will get contaminated
to some degree.


Same with pet hair, although that is a different issue. I have cats, and while
they don't go into my office, I occasionally find hairs in my sorting cups
for example. Some people don't like, or are allergic, and I am aware that
I can't be absolutely certain that the odd hair won't end up in a jiffy
bag.
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In Suggestions, WhiteHorseMatt writes:
  In Suggestions, firelordi writes:
  it is always in the eye of the beholder.

  3. non-smoking customers receive the goods and they notice immediately.
what is then ???

If you sell parts and they smell of smoke for whatever reason then it will be
a problem.

Even if you don't smoke near them , it is likely that they will get contaminated
to some degree.


Same with pet hair, although that is a different issue. I have cats, and while
they don't go into my office, I occasionally find hairs in my sorting cups
for example. Some people don't like, or are allergic, and I am aware that
I can't be absolutely certain that the odd hair won't end up in a jiffy
bag.

This is why I believe there is some threshold of reasonability. Every time you
open a bricklink order, you will smell another person's house. Some smell
more strongly than others. Sometimes you may find a hair or a fingerprint or
another hint of human existence. But this is just a reality. That's why I
raised the question how long the smoke smell really lasts. Because if
it's a significant amount of time, then yes, you can say it is part of the
part's condition. But if it's just a day or two, I would say that's
just part of life and doesn't need mentioning. Better to judge shops on more
meaningful factors in that case.
From what I remember, parts smelled of smoke when I unpacked them, but then quickly
smelled like coffee from me storing them in coffee cans, and then woodstain from
wooden boxes, then like lavender from washing... As far as I know parts change
smell quickly, although it has been a long time since I was an avid buyer on
Bricklink, so perhaps I forgot.
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In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, WhiteHorseMatt writes:
  In Suggestions, firelordi writes:
  it is always in the eye of the beholder.

  3. non-smoking customers receive the goods and they notice immediately.
what is then ???

If you sell parts and they smell of smoke for whatever reason then it will be
a problem.

Even if you don't smoke near them , it is likely that they will get contaminated
to some degree.


Same with pet hair, although that is a different issue. I have cats, and while
they don't go into my office, I occasionally find hairs in my sorting cups
for example. Some people don't like, or are allergic, and I am aware that
I can't be absolutely certain that the odd hair won't end up in a jiffy
bag.

This is why I believe there is some threshold of reasonability. Every time you
open a bricklink order, you will smell another person's house. Some smell
more strongly than others. Sometimes you may find a hair or a fingerprint or
another hint of human existence. But this is just a reality. That's why I
raised the question how long the smoke smell really lasts. Because if
it's a significant amount of time, then yes, you can say it is part of the
part's condition. But if it's just a day or two, I would say that's
just part of life and doesn't need mentioning. Better to judge shops on more
meaningful factors in that case.
From what I remember, parts smelled of smoke when I unpacked them, but then quickly
smelled like coffee from me storing them in coffee cans, and then woodstain from
wooden boxes, then like lavender from washing... As far as I know parts change
smell quickly, although it has been a long time since I was an avid buyer on
Bricklink, so perhaps I forgot.

This is a recurring topic, and it would be nice if it was controlled professionally
by Bricklink instead of an interpretation by each store owner. Personally I hate
it when new bricks smell like smoke. I have experienced various odors (smoke
or strong perfume to mask the smoke odor, etc). If that is the case, then they
should be classified as used, because if they don't look, feel and smell
like new bricks fresh out of a LEGO box or Pick-A-Brick wall, then they are just
not new, regardless if they have been "clicked" with another brick (which happens
in the box and on the PAB wall anyway). I know not everyone will agree, but you
don't see LEGO factory or store employees smoking in their facilities/stores
for a reason.

I like the idea of how the other site (assuming BrickOwl) uses "Smoke Free" store
designation. I think Odor Free would be more inclusive of strong perfumes, but
it's a bit vague on what constitutes as "odor".

Miro
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baroness1 (3297)

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In Suggestions, oracle271 writes:
  I think it should be required that sellers who smoke must post a prominent note
in their store.

Or if sellers who do not smoke sell parts that smell of smoke, that should be
listed on the part.

Getting parts that smell of smoke requires a lot of work by the buyer to remove
the odor, and we should know what we are getting into before buying. Not to mention
that when a seller does not disclose that they are a smoker, they are basically
lying about the condition of the parts.

I am really tired of getting stinky parts.

Sure, some sellers might be tempted to lie about about it, but users would complain.
Then sellers who smoke and fail to disclose their smoking should be treated with
the warning/termination policy applied to buying/selling offences.

Another point of view.

I do not smoke, I received negative feedback for parts that smelled from smoke.
As it turns out the post office allows mail carriers to smoke in their vehicles.
I stopped mailing packages on the day that the mail carrier who smokes is on
duty. That solved the problem. I also changed my packaging from paper bubble
mailers to plastic bubble mailers. I haven't had a complaint since then.

Wrongfully accused and sad about it
 Author: Miro78 View Messages Posted By Miro78
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Miro78 (2360)

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In Suggestions, baroness1 writes:
  In Suggestions, oracle271 writes:
  I think it should be required that sellers who smoke must post a prominent note
in their store.

Or if sellers who do not smoke sell parts that smell of smoke, that should be
listed on the part.

Getting parts that smell of smoke requires a lot of work by the buyer to remove
the odor, and we should know what we are getting into before buying. Not to mention
that when a seller does not disclose that they are a smoker, they are basically
lying about the condition of the parts.

I am really tired of getting stinky parts.

Sure, some sellers might be tempted to lie about about it, but users would complain.
Then sellers who smoke and fail to disclose their smoking should be treated with
the warning/termination policy applied to buying/selling offences.

Another point of view.

I do not smoke, I received negative feedback for parts that smelled from smoke.
As it turns out the post office allows mail carriers to smoke in their vehicles.
I stopped mailing packages on the day that the mail carrier who smokes is on
duty. That solved the problem. I also changed my packaging from paper bubble
mailers to plastic bubble mailers. I haven't had a complaint since then.

Wrongfully accused and sad about it

I recall you stating this in the forum in the past. That is unfortunate that
mail carriers are allowed to smoke in the vehicles in your area while being paid
to handle customer's goods. That is just inexcusable business practice/oversight.
I imagine it's hard to control for this behavior when there is no easy way
to monitor them when they are out there on their own. Additionally the package
passes through too many hands before reaching it's destination, so it would
impossible to pinpoint blame.

It's good you found a proactive solution to your problem as you can't
control what other people do.

When I used to sell parts, The parts were always double ziplock bagged. The smaller
zip bag for part sorting, and the larger zip bag to contain them all within the
package. Additionally I would bubble wrap them for extra cushioning before they
were put in a box or padded mailer envelope, which is plastic bubble lined on
the inside. The flap would get fully taped over for extra protection.

Tires are notorious for absorbing odors, as I have found out, when I purchased
some from a seller that must have stored them in a way that allowed them to absorb
smoke and/or perfume smells. The smell from them, takes forever to dissipate.

Miro
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If I get used parts in for resale (Lego and other online selling stock) and it
smells of smoke it goes in the bin. Hate the smell of it.

In Suggestions, oracle271 writes:
  I think it should be required that sellers who smoke must post a prominent note
in their store.

Or if sellers who do not smoke sell parts that smell of smoke, that should be
listed on the part.

Getting parts that smell of smoke requires a lot of work by the buyer to remove
the odor, and we should know what we are getting into before buying. Not to mention
that when a seller does not disclose that they are a smoker, they are basically
lying about the condition of the parts.

I am really tired of getting stinky parts.

Sure, some sellers might be tempted to lie about about it, but users would complain.
Then sellers who smoke and fail to disclose their smoking should be treated with
the warning/termination policy applied to buying/selling offences.
 Author: legoman77 View Messages Posted By legoman77
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In Suggestions, oracle271 writes:
  I think it should be required that sellers who smoke must post a prominent note
in their store.

Or if sellers who do not smoke sell parts that smell of smoke, that should be
listed on the part.

Getting parts that smell of smoke requires a lot of work by the buyer to remove
the odor, and we should know what we are getting into before buying. Not to mention
that when a seller does not disclose that they are a smoker, they are basically
lying about the condition of the parts.

I am really tired of getting stinky parts.

Sure, some sellers might be tempted to lie about about it, but users would complain.
Then sellers who smoke and fail to disclose their smoking should be treated with
the warning/termination policy applied to buying/selling offences.

There is only one thing worse. I got one box from eBay that smelled like number
two. (what a convenient term when people get upset over the real word.) It was
well packed, so it was not the delivery person using the truck as an outhouse.
I tossed the whole package out into the trash.
I did once get a box with 30 pounds of Lego with a whole bunch of non Lego things
in it, tin soldiers, plastic army men, matchbox parts, coins, monopoly pieces,
and a a clean pair of underwear.
They did not fit me so I threw them away.
John P
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  They did not fit me so I threw them away.
John P

That gave me a good laugh, it sounds exactly like something you would say.

Jim
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In Suggestions, oracle271 writes:
  I think it should be required that sellers who smoke must post a prominent note
in their store.

Or if sellers who do not smoke sell parts that smell of smoke, that should be
listed on the part.

Getting parts that smell of smoke requires a lot of work by the buyer to remove
the odor, and we should know what we are getting into before buying. Not to mention
that when a seller does not disclose that they are a smoker, they are basically
lying about the condition of the parts.

I am really tired of getting stinky parts.

Sure, some sellers might be tempted to lie about about it, but users would complain.
Then sellers who smoke and fail to disclose their smoking should be treated with
the warning/termination policy applied to buying/selling offences.

Especially sellers who continually lie about it for years *cough* Brick-N-Brac
*cough*
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In Suggestions, Brickitty writes:
  […]
Especially sellers who continually lie about it for years *cough* Brick-N-Brac
*cough*

Hey, you should really stop smoking: you cough so much, you’re even coughing
while writing!
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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, Brickitty writes:
  […]
Especially sellers who continually lie about it for years *cough* Brick-N-Brac
*cough*

Hey, you should really stop smoking: you cough so much, you’re even coughing
while writing!


He's not smoking, he's ordering at Brick-N-Brac
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In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, Brickitty writes:
  […]
Especially sellers who continually lie about it for years *cough* Brick-N-Brac
*cough*

Hey, you should really stop smoking: you cough so much, you’re even coughing
while writing!


He's not smoking, he's ordering at Brick-N-Brac

Seems as bad for your health