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 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 19, 2018 04:34
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 7750-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7750  Name: Steam Engine
* 
7750-1 (Inv) Steam Engine
254 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 12V

* Delete 1 Part bb12v Red Electric, Train Motor 12V Modern
* Add 1 Part bb12va Red Electric, Train Motor 12V Modern Type I with 2 round contact holes

Comments from Submitter:
Owner of new set confirms that this part variant was included.
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Jan 27, 2018 05:39
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See photos, for future reference.
The date indicated underneath the motor: 33 0 (i.e. 33th week in 1980)

n Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7750  Name: Steam Engine
* 
7750-1 (Inv) Steam Engine
254 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 12V

* Delete 1 Part bb12v Red Electric, Train Motor 12V Modern
* Add 1 Part bb12va Red Electric, Train Motor 12V Modern Type I with 2 round contact holes

Comments from Submitter:
Owner of new set confirms that this part variant was included.
 




 Author: Speciale View Messages Posted By Speciale
 Posted: Jan 27, 2018 06:32
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7750  Name: Steam Engine
* 
7750-1 (Inv) Steam Engine
254 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 12V

* Delete 1 Part bb12v Red Electric, Train Motor 12V Modern
* Add 1 Part bb12va Red Electric, Train Motor 12V Modern Type I with 2 round contact holes

Comments from Submitter:
Owner of new set confirms that this part variant was included.

whay are you changing all the inventory from this 12volt trains ,

I sold a lot 12 volt trains , 7740 / 7730 / 7727 / 7725 /7750 and it is poseble
that all 3 different motors are in the sets . wy you don`t ask Gary for help
he have worked for lego and he still have contact with an co-operator from LEGO
.

Al my sealed sets don`t have train rims on the weels . the inventory changer
is selling replica `s in his bricklink shop . if there are more than 6 rims in
a set it is a honest mistake from TLG . I sold a sealed 1138 or 5067 and rhere
where 10 rims in the sealed bage , I send admin/Dan an email to inform this problem
and he refused to change the inventorie for the mistake from TLG .

regards Rohnny
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 27, 2018 06:48
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In Inventories Requests, brasletty writes:
  wy you don`t ask Gary for help
he have worked for lego and he still have contact with an co-operator from LEGO

By Gary, I assume you mean the BrickLink member istokg? Unfortunately, I have
never spoken with him and he hasn't been active here in 6 years. If you
still have contact with him, then by all means ask if he will assist.

I would like to check out the historical work he did, but I don't know how
to get my hands on it.

  Al my sealed sets don`t have train rims on the weels . the inventory changer
is selling replica `s in his bricklink shop .

Which person specifically?

  if there are more than 6 rims in
a set it is a honest mistake from TLG . I sold a sealed 1138 or 5067 and rhere
where 10 rims in the sealed bage , I send admin/Dan an email to inform this problem
and he refused to change the inventorie for the mistake from TLG .

I admit that I don't know much about these sets, but I have already seen
a couple of sealed examples with extra rims. You've also found sets with
extra rims, so I think it's fair to say that the inclusion of extra rims
wasn't that uncommon.

I have encouraged everyone involved, however, to take the time necessary to make
sure the changes are accurate. If you feel that any specific changes should
be rejected or reconsidered, then now is the time to speak up.
 Author: wannes. View Messages Posted By wannes.
 Posted: Jan 27, 2018 06:54
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In Inventories Requests, brasletty writes:
  In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7750  Name: Steam Engine
* 
7750-1 (Inv) Steam Engine
254 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 12V

* Delete 1 Part bb12v Red Electric, Train Motor 12V Modern
* Add 1 Part bb12va Red Electric, Train Motor 12V Modern Type I with 2 round contact holes

Comments from Submitter:
Owner of new set confirms that this part variant was included.

whay are you changing all the inventory from this 12volt trains ,

I sold a lot 12 volt trains , 7740 / 7730 / 7727 / 7725 /7750 and it is poseble
that all 3 different motors are in the sets . wy you don`t ask Gary for help
he have worked for lego and he still have contact with an co-operator from LEGO
.

Al my sealed sets don`t have train rims on the weels . the inventory changer
is selling replica `s in his bricklink shop . if there are more than 6 rims in
a set it is a honest mistake from TLG . I sold a sealed 1138 or 5067 and rhere
where 10 rims in the sealed bage , I send admin/Dan an email to inform this problem
and he refused to change the inventorie for the mistake from TLG .

regards Rohnny

I don't see the link with me offering replica rims.
The set from BLUXE also seems to have 10 rims. That set even seems to be from
a different production run, so the chance that this is a mistake from TMLG is
rather small I think.
 Author: Speciale View Messages Posted By Speciale
 Posted: Jan 27, 2018 08:23
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In Inventories Requests, wannes_dn writes:
  In Inventories Requests, brasletty writes:
  In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7750  Name: Steam Engine
* 
7750-1 (Inv) Steam Engine
254 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 12V

* Delete 1 Part bb12v Red Electric, Train Motor 12V Modern
* Add 1 Part bb12va Red Electric, Train Motor 12V Modern Type I with 2 round contact holes

Comments from Submitter:
Owner of new set confirms that this part variant was included.

whay are you changing all the inventory from this 12volt trains ,

I sold a lot 12 volt trains , 7740 / 7730 / 7727 / 7725 /7750 and it is poseble
that all 3 different motors are in the sets . wy you don`t ask Gary for help
he have worked for lego and he still have contact with an co-operator from LEGO
.

Al my sealed sets don`t have train rims on the weels . the inventory changer
is selling replica `s in his bricklink shop . if there are more than 6 rims in
a set it is a honest mistake from TLG . I sold a sealed 1138 or 5067 and rhere
where 10 rims in the sealed bage , I send admin/Dan an email to inform this problem
and he refused to change the inventorie for the mistake from TLG .

regards Rohnny

I don't see the link with me offering replica rims.

bricklink is a selling platform for Lego not home made , will you be happy that
I sell you a sealed cafe corner replica and I send you a lepin ? Replica still
can be
made and sold by the manufacturer .sets 1138 and 5067 have been sold origenal
sealed for 30€ and more at the moment it will be sold for half that price because
they sell it for 50 cent x 8 = 4€ and the price from a seller in ebay is lower
than in bricklink , I post this question in the forum same time ago and nobady
cares . . The set from BLUXE also seems to have 10 rims. That set even seems
to be from

  a different production run, so the chance that this is a mistake from TMLG is
rather small I think.
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Jan 27, 2018 07:13
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  whay are you changing all the inventory from this 12volt trains ,

Because the current inventory is very incomplete, has few mistakes, does not
include all variants of certains parts.

  I sold a lot 12 volt trains , 7740 / 7730 / 7727 / 7725 /7750 and it is poseble
that all 3 different motors are in the sets .

Please note that there are not 3 different motors, but there are 4 types. See
the photo attached.
Second, tt is impossible that all types appeared in all sets. The sets 7735 and
7745 from 1985 could not have come with the type 1 black motor (bb12va) as this
motor was only made in 1980. The date indicated underneath the 12v motors proves
this.
Similarly, the set 7727 from 1983 did not come with red motor type 1 (bb12va)
as this one was produced in 1980 and early 1981.
There are more examples like this.

   wy you don`t ask Gary for help
he have worked for lego and he still have contact with an co-operator from LEGO
.

I am in contact with Gary. He knows a lot about vintage Lego sets, history of
Lego,... But I doubt he knows EVERYTHING about ALL sets. I have chatted with
him but unfortunately, he does not know everything, in particular about 12v and
4.5v trains.

  Al my sealed sets don`t have train rims on the weels . the inventory changer
is selling replica `s in his bricklink shop . if there are more than 6 rims in
a set it is a honest mistake from TLG .

You are accusing the inventory changers for changing the inventory in order to
sell their replica rim?! Really? Wooooow
I do not sell replica rims, I have not sold yet anything on bricklink yet.
Wannes-dn currently has only 7 replica rims. It should then be very vital for
him to sell these 7 replicas: a lot of money.
Wennes-dn has a MISB 7750 with 4 extra rims. BLUXE has 2 sealed and MISB copies
of 7750 with again 4 extra rims. If extra rims appear in only some releases of
these sets, it should be added to the inventory. If you have the image of a sealed
7750 without extra rims, please upload them here. In this case, admin may add
a note that extra rims are not included in all releases.

The changes are made and proved by uploading images of sealed sets. This is not
the work of one person. These changes are discovered by work of a group of collectors
and 12v fans, and not only one or two person(s).

Regards,
Reza
 


 Author: Speciale View Messages Posted By Speciale
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  
  whay are you changing all the inventory from this 12volt trains ,

Because the current inventory is very incomplete, has few mistakes, does not
include all variants of certains parts.

  I sold a lot 12 volt trains , 7740 / 7730 / 7727 / 7725 /7750 and it is poseble
that all 3 different motors are in the sets .

Please note that there are not 3 different motors, but there are 4 types. See
the photo attached.
Second, tt is impossible that all types appeared in all sets. The sets 7735 and
7745 from 1985 could not have come with the type 1 black motor (bb12va) as this
motor was only made in 1980. The date indicated underneath the 12v motors proves
this.
Similarly, the set 7727 from 1983 did not come with red motor type 1 (bb12va)
as this one was produced in 1980 and early 1981.
There are more examples like this.

   wy you don`t ask Gary for help
he have worked for lego and he still have contact with an co-operator from LEGO
.

I am in contact with Gary. He knows a lot about vintage Lego sets, history of
Lego,... But I doubt he knows EVERYTHING about ALL sets. I have chatted with
him but unfortunately, he does not know everything, in particular about 12v and
4.5v trains.

  Al my sealed sets don`t have train rims on the weels . the inventory changer
is selling replica `s in his bricklink shop . if there are more than 6 rims in
a set it is a honest mistake from TLG .

You are accusing the inventory changers for changing the inventory in order to
sell their replica rim?! Really? Wooooow

I don`t accusing you , have a look in the sellers
  I do not sell replica rims, I have not sold yet anything on bricklink yet.
Wannes-dn currently has only 7 replica rims. It should then be very vital for
him to sell these 7 replicas: a lot of money.
Wennes-dn has a MISB 7750 with 4 extra rims. BLUXE has 2 sealed and MISB copies
of 7750 with again 4 extra rims. If extra rims appear in only some releases of
these sets, it should be added to the inventory. If you have the image of a sealed
7750 without extra rims, please upload them here. In this case, admin may add
a note that extra rims are not included in all releases.

The changes are made and proved by uploading images of sealed sets. This is not
the work of one person. These changes are discovered by work of a group of collectors
and 12v fans, and not only one or two person(s).

you change the inventory with pictures from 2 sealed sets BLUXE his set is not
sealed and can be changed in that 35 yaurs the set is released and a second time
"I DON`T ACCUSING BLUXE " .

If Gary don`t know it you will not find an other . all the rest is a big gamble
.

I see only 3 different red train motors in your pickture . don`t gamble that
there is an other one in red if you have one in black .
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There are only three types of red motors and four types of black one.
The set 7750 came first with type 1 (bb12va). This set was released until the
end of 1982. The motor type 3 (called on bricklink bb12vb as type 2 but with
separated pin) was produced since late 1983, so it never came with 7750.
Did 7750 come with type 2 (again, called bb12vb, with integrated pin)? We have
not seen any 7750 coming with type 2. If you have the photo of a sealed 7750,
please upload it here.

I upload another sealed set 7750 from a collector in Denmark. This is sealed,
never opened. The motor is again type 1.

In Inventories Requests, brasletty writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  
  whay are you changing all the inventory from this 12volt trains ,

Because the current inventory is very incomplete, has few mistakes, does not
include all variants of certains parts.

  I sold a lot 12 volt trains , 7740 / 7730 / 7727 / 7725 /7750 and it is poseble
that all 3 different motors are in the sets .

Please note that there are not 3 different motors, but there are 4 types. See
the photo attached.
Second, tt is impossible that all types appeared in all sets. The sets 7735 and
7745 from 1985 could not have come with the type 1 black motor (bb12va) as this
motor was only made in 1980. The date indicated underneath the 12v motors proves
this.
Similarly, the set 7727 from 1983 did not come with red motor type 1 (bb12va)
as this one was produced in 1980 and early 1981.
There are more examples like this.

   wy you don`t ask Gary for help
he have worked for lego and he still have contact with an co-operator from LEGO
.

I am in contact with Gary. He knows a lot about vintage Lego sets, history of
Lego,... But I doubt he knows EVERYTHING about ALL sets. I have chatted with
him but unfortunately, he does not know everything, in particular about 12v and
4.5v trains.

  Al my sealed sets don`t have train rims on the weels . the inventory changer
is selling replica `s in his bricklink shop . if there are more than 6 rims in
a set it is a honest mistake from TLG .

You are accusing the inventory changers for changing the inventory in order to
sell their replica rim?! Really? Wooooow

I don`t accusing you , have a look in the sellers
  I do not sell replica rims, I have not sold yet anything on bricklink yet.
Wannes-dn currently has only 7 replica rims. It should then be very vital for
him to sell these 7 replicas: a lot of money.
Wennes-dn has a MISB 7750 with 4 extra rims. BLUXE has 2 sealed and MISB copies
of 7750 with again 4 extra rims. If extra rims appear in only some releases of
these sets, it should be added to the inventory. If you have the image of a sealed
7750 without extra rims, please upload them here. In this case, admin may add
a note that extra rims are not included in all releases.

The changes are made and proved by uploading images of sealed sets. This is not
the work of one person. These changes are discovered by work of a group of collectors
and 12v fans, and not only one or two person(s).

you change the inventory with pictures from 2 sealed sets BLUXE his set is not
sealed and can be changed in that 35 yaurs the set is released and a second time
"I DON`T ACCUSING BLUXE " .

If Gary don`t know it you will not find an other . all the rest is a big gamble
.

I see only 3 different red train motors in your pickture . don`t gamble that
there is an other one in red if you have one in black .