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 Author: Turribrick View Messages Posted By Turribrick
 Posted: Dec 1, 2015 04:17
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 10589-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 10589  Name: Rally Car
* 
10589-1 (Inv) Rally Car
12 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2015
Sets: DUPLO

* Add 1 Part 47509 Pearl Light Gray Duplo Utensil Wrench for Minifigs (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part Flat Silver 47509 Duplo Utensil Wrench for Minifigs {match ID 0 to 1}

Comments from Submitter:
My sealed set contains a Pearl Light Gray version of the wrench.
 Author: viejos View Messages Posted By viejos
 Posted: Dec 1, 2015 05:24
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In Inventories Requests, Turribrick writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 10589  Name: Rally Car
* 
10589-1 (Inv) Rally Car
12 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2015
Sets: DUPLO

* Add 1 Part 47509 Pearl Light Gray Duplo Utensil Wrench for Minifigs (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part Flat Silver 47509 Duplo Utensil Wrench for Minifigs {match ID 0 to 1}

Comments from Submitter:
My sealed set contains a Pearl Light Gray version of the wrench.

We do not use Pearl Light Gray in new inventories. It is a color of the past.
Duplo wrenches are made from a different kind of plastic and they look different
than other parts in Flat Silver. But on BL we classify them as Flat Silver, as
does Lego (i.e. Silver Metallic).

I'll leave this to be discussed by people who know the issues between these
two colors better than I. This request will be left open in the meantime.

Russell
 Author: Turribrick View Messages Posted By Turribrick
 Posted: Dec 1, 2015 16:21
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In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Turribrick writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 10589  Name: Rally Car
* 
10589-1 (Inv) Rally Car
12 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2015
Sets: DUPLO

* Add 1 Part 47509 Pearl Light Gray Duplo Utensil Wrench for Minifigs (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part Flat Silver 47509 Duplo Utensil Wrench for Minifigs {match ID 0 to 1}

Comments from Submitter:
My sealed set contains a Pearl Light Gray version of the wrench.

We do not use Pearl Light Gray in new inventories. It is a color of the past.
Duplo wrenches are made from a different kind of plastic and they look different
than other parts in Flat Silver. But on BL we classify them as Flat Silver, as
does Lego (i.e. Silver Metallic).

But they are really a different color...

I have 3 wrenches from 3 different sets:
 
Set No: 10520  Name: Big Front Loader
* 
10520-1 (Inv) Big Front Loader
11 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2013
Sets: DUPLO: DUPLO, Town: Construction
 
Set No: 10524  Name: Farm Tractor
* 
10524-1 (Inv) Farm Tractor
28 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2014
Sets: DUPLO: DUPLO, Town: Farm
 
Set No: 10589  Name: Rally Car
* 
10589-1 (Inv) Rally Car
12 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2015
Sets: DUPLO
Two are part:
 
Part No: 47509  Name: Duplo Utensil Wrench
* 
47509 Duplo Utensil Wrench
Parts: DUPLO, Figure Wear & Utensil
Both in a rather dullish looking gray.
I also have part:
 
Part No: 16265  Name: Duplo Utensil Wrench with Smooth Handles
* 
16265 Duplo Utensil Wrench with Smooth Handles
Parts: DUPLO, Figure Wear & Utensil
(came with 10524-1) which definitely looks shinier.
See also the picture I took, I hope you can see it.

LEGO also lists different colors for 47509. PCC 4207545 is listed as "SILVER",
PCC 4620277 is listed as "SILVER MET."
 




 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Dec 1, 2015 17:03
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 10589-1
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In Inventories Requests, Turribrick writes:
  In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Turribrick writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 10589  Name: Rally Car
* 
10589-1 (Inv) Rally Car
12 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2015
Sets: DUPLO

* Add 1 Part 47509 Pearl Light Gray Duplo Utensil Wrench for Minifigs (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part Flat Silver 47509 Duplo Utensil Wrench for Minifigs {match ID 0 to 1}

Comments from Submitter:
My sealed set contains a Pearl Light Gray version of the wrench.

We do not use Pearl Light Gray in new inventories. It is a color of the past.
Duplo wrenches are made from a different kind of plastic and they look different
than other parts in Flat Silver. But on BL we classify them as Flat Silver, as
does Lego (i.e. Silver Metallic).

But they are really a different color...

I have 3 wrenches from 3 different sets:
 
Set No: 10520  Name: Big Front Loader
* 
10520-1 (Inv) Big Front Loader
11 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2013
Sets: DUPLO: DUPLO, Town: Construction
 
Set No: 10524  Name: Farm Tractor
* 
10524-1 (Inv) Farm Tractor
28 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2014
Sets: DUPLO: DUPLO, Town: Farm
 
Set No: 10589  Name: Rally Car
* 
10589-1 (Inv) Rally Car
12 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2015
Sets: DUPLO
Two are part:
 
Part No: 47509  Name: Duplo Utensil Wrench
* 
47509 Duplo Utensil Wrench
Parts: DUPLO, Figure Wear & Utensil
Both in a rather dullish looking gray.
I also have part:
 
Part No: 16265  Name: Duplo Utensil Wrench with Smooth Handles
* 
16265 Duplo Utensil Wrench with Smooth Handles
Parts: DUPLO, Figure Wear & Utensil
(came with 10524-1) which definitely looks shinier.
See also the picture I took, I hope you can see it.

LEGO also lists different colors for 47509. PCC 4207545 is listed as "SILVER",
PCC 4620277 is listed as "SILVER MET."

That wrench that you are calling Pearl Light Gray in the photo is definitely
what BrickLink refers to as Flat Silver pre-2010. Pearl Light Gray is *much*
lighter than that.

Before 2010, the LEGO "silver" color could be lighter or darker depending on
how the color was mixed as well as what plastic formula was used for the part
in question. BrickLink called the lighter version of this color Pearl Light Gray
and the darker version Flat Silver, although they were technically the same color
according to LEGO.

After 2010, LEGO discontinued this "silver" color in favor of a standard color
(Silver Metallic) that is now the same across all parts. This new color is also
cross-referenced to Flat Silver on BrickLink. It is a bit confusing, and it takes
a little to get used to, but you have a good start recognizing the old versus
new colors now.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: Turribrick View Messages Posted By Turribrick
 Posted: Dec 2, 2015 04:12
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 10589-1
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  That wrench that you are calling Pearl Light Gray in the photo is definitely
what BrickLink refers to as Flat Silver pre-2010. Pearl Light Gray is *much*
lighter than that.

Before 2010, the LEGO "silver" color could be lighter or darker depending on
how the color was mixed as well as what plastic formula was used for the part
in question. BrickLink called the lighter version of this color Pearl Light Gray
and the darker version Flat Silver, although they were technically the same color
according to LEGO.

After 2010, LEGO discontinued this "silver" color in favor of a standard color
(Silver Metallic) that is now the same across all parts. This new color is also
cross-referenced to Flat Silver on BrickLink. It is a bit confusing, and it takes
a little to get used to, but you have a good start recognizing the old versus
new colors now.

Thanks for clarifying this. That's pretty confusing indeed. Especially since
the new "SILVER MET." color is not flat but pearly... I think it would have been
better to create a new color called "Pearl Silver" for it.

But then there are more issues with set inventories. There are quite a few post-2010
sets that list "Pearl Light Gray" parts.

For instance:
 
Set No: 6169  Name: Fire Chief
* 
6169-1 (Inv) Fire Chief
5 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2012
Sets: DUPLO: DUPLO, Town: Fire

The axe in my copy has the same dark color as the wrench I just posted images
of, so that means it is actually "Flat Silver". That also agrees with the LEGO
customer page for that set, which lists two axe types, both in "SILVER MET."
colors.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Dec 2, 2015 09:54
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In Inventories Requests, Turribrick writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  That wrench that you are calling Pearl Light Gray in the photo is definitely
what BrickLink refers to as Flat Silver pre-2010. Pearl Light Gray is *much*
lighter than that.

Before 2010, the LEGO "silver" color could be lighter or darker depending on
how the color was mixed as well as what plastic formula was used for the part
in question. BrickLink called the lighter version of this color Pearl Light Gray
and the darker version Flat Silver, although they were technically the same color
according to LEGO.

After 2010, LEGO discontinued this "silver" color in favor of a standard color
(Silver Metallic) that is now the same across all parts. This new color is also
cross-referenced to Flat Silver on BrickLink. It is a bit confusing, and it takes
a little to get used to, but you have a good start recognizing the old versus
new colors now.

Thanks for clarifying this. That's pretty confusing indeed. Especially since
the new "SILVER MET." color is not flat but pearly... I think it would have been
better to create a new color called "Pearl Silver" for it.

There are those of us here who would have liked to see a new color for this,
but it is confusing enough for buyers and sellers as it is according to others.
I don't really care either way since I know the color history, but knowing
the color history is something that is not easily inferred when looking at inventories.

  But then there are more issues with set inventories. There are quite a few post-2010
sets that list "Pearl Light Gray" parts.

For instance:
 
Set No: 6169  Name: Fire Chief
* 
6169-1 (Inv) Fire Chief
5 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2012
Sets: DUPLO: DUPLO, Town: Fire

The axe in my copy has the same dark color as the wrench I just posted images
of, so that means it is actually "Flat Silver". That also agrees with the LEGO
customer page for that set, which lists two axe types, both in "SILVER MET."
colors.

You are now realizing why some of us go to great lengths to get inventories corrected!
Yes, a lot of the Duplo inventories are not correct because there is little
love for them compared to the mainstream LEGO sets. That axe was almost definitely
"new" Flat Silver by 2012. Helping to get Pearl Light Gray and "old" and "new"
Flat Silver separated correctly in the inventories is one of the hardest things
to get good information on. So, by all means, if you have a true set that was
sealed when you bought it, please add what knowledge you can to correcting the
inventory.

Feel free to bounce any questions off of me at any time.

Cheers,
Randy

P.S. Thanks for all of your contributions! You have become a great asset to BrickLink
in a very short amount of time!
 Author: Turribrick View Messages Posted By Turribrick
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  That wrench that you are calling Pearl Light Gray in the photo is definitely
what BrickLink refers to as Flat Silver pre-2010. Pearl Light Gray is *much*
lighter than that.

I just got this used set:
 
Set No: 5641  Name: Busy Garage
* 
5641-1 (Inv) Busy Garage
49 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 2009
Sets: DUPLO: DUPLO, Town: Traffic

It has a Pearl Light Gray wrench, so I can now see the difference clearly

Kars.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
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In Inventories Requests, Turribrick writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  That wrench that you are calling Pearl Light Gray in the photo is definitely
what BrickLink refers to as Flat Silver pre-2010. Pearl Light Gray is *much*
lighter than that.

I just got this used set:
 
Set No: 5641  Name: Busy Garage
* 
5641-1 (Inv) Busy Garage
49 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 2009
Sets: DUPLO: DUPLO, Town: Traffic

It has a Pearl Light Gray wrench, so I can now see the difference clearly

Kars.

Yep, once you have the same part side-by-side in the different colors, it is
*very* easy to recognize the difference.

Cheers,
Randy