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 Author: peter_heyden View Messages Posted By peter_heyden
 Posted: Dec 13, 2014 05:30
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 653-1
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 Topic: Inventories Requests (Entry)
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peter_heyden (2353)

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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 653  Name: Ambulance and Helicopter
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653-1 (Inv) Ambulance and Helicopter
33 Parts, 1973
Sets: LEGOLAND: Hospital

* Add 1 Part 3010pb036s White Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Surface Print) (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part White 3010pb036e Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Embossed Print) {match ID 0 to 1}

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I have 39 sets from that era, originally bought new as I was a child. These sets were never mixed up with newer Lego, only among themselves. All 6 sets having the black printed grille, have the surface print version and I had no embossed black printed grilles. Did these acutally exist? Or was there a difference in US/EUR sets? All my sets were bought in the Netherlands.
 Author: viejos View Messages Posted By viejos
 Posted: Dec 25, 2014 01:02
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 653-1
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In Inventories Requests, peter_heyden writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 653  Name: Ambulance and Helicopter
* 
653-1 (Inv) Ambulance and Helicopter
33 Parts, 1973
Sets: LEGOLAND: Hospital

* Add 1 Part 3010pb036s White Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Surface Print) (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part White 3010pb036e Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Embossed Print) {match ID 0 to 1}

Comments from Submitter:
I have 39 sets from that era, originally bought new as I was a child. These sets were never mixed up with newer Lego, only among themselves. All 6 sets having the black printed grille, have the surface print version and I had no embossed black printed grilles. Did these acutally exist? Or was there a difference in US/EUR sets? All my sets were bought in the Netherlands.

I've gone ahead and approved the changes for this set and the other 4 sets
with related requests:
 
Set No: 363  Name: Hospital with Figures
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363-1 (Inv) Hospital with Figures
196 Parts, 7 Minifigures, 1975
Sets: LEGOLAND: Hospital
 
Set No: 358  Name: Rocket Base
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358-1 (Inv) Rocket Base
268 Parts, 1973
Sets: LEGOLAND: Space
 
Set No: 355  Name: Town Center Set with Roadways
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355-1 (Inv) Town Center Set with Roadways
314 Parts, 1972
Sets: LEGOLAND: Building
 
Set No: 354  Name: Police Heliport
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354-1 (Inv) Police Heliport
165 Parts, 1972
Sets: LEGOLAND: Police
I did manage to find one of the embossed type grilles in my loose parts collection.
It's a bit beaten up, but you can still see the edges where the stamp pressed
into the plastic (see the the thin outer line in the attached image).

We have fairly certain proof that the embossed type did come in sets from the
early seventies from the change log for the Town Center inventory:
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChangeItem.asp?itemType=S&itemNo=355-1&viewDate=Y&viewStatus=1

The history of this part, though, is difficult to trace, because we find similar
embossed parts turning up much later as well:
 
Set No: 558  Name: Road Crane
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558-1 (Inv) Road Crane
46 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1979
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Construction
Which leads me to believe the surface printing type was perhaps a product only
of the mid-seventies. Or it could be a market issue, like you suggest. Regional
offices (such as Enfield) may have continued to use embossed stock well after
it had been exhausted in Europe.

Russell