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| | | Author: | Galegory_bcn  | | Posted: | Oct 29, 2014 09:19 | | Subject: | Stop Bogus Sellers | | Viewed: | 262 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Discarded | |
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| I'm very annoyed with bogus sellers appeared in the last month in Spain,
Portugal, Gibraltar, Andorra and southern France. Bricklink administrators don't
work actively to stop this problem. There are at least 3 seller in this moment
offering rare sets with low prices. With 0 feedbacks and they just been registered.
These sellers are very suspicious.
This kind of scam are very pernicious for a good working in this marketplace,
Please stop this kind of activities.
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| | | | | Author: | Brickwilbo | | Posted: | Oct 29, 2014 09:24 | | Subject: | Re: Stop Bogus Sellers | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Rick83 writes:
| | I'm very annoyed with bogus sellers appeared in the last month in Spain,
Portugal, Gibraltar, Andorra and southern France. Bricklink administrators don't
work actively to stop this problem. There are at least 3 seller in this moment
offering rare sets with low prices. With 0 feedbacks and they just been registered.
These sellers are very suspicious.
This kind of scam are very pernicious for a good working in this marketplace,
Please stop this kind of activities.
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Report them here: http://www.bricklink.com/problemMember.asp
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| | | | | Author: | cjgordon926 | | Posted: | Oct 29, 2014 09:24 | | Subject: | Re: Stop Bogus Sellers | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Rick83 writes:
| | I'm very annoyed with bogus sellers appeared in the last month in Spain,
Portugal, Gibraltar, Andorra and southern France. Bricklink administrators don't
work actively to stop this problem. There are at least 3 seller in this moment
offering rare sets with low prices. With 0 feedbacks and they just been registered.
These sellers are very suspicious.
This kind of scam are very pernicious for a good working in this marketplace,
Please stop this kind of activities.
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How would they do that?? Since everyone starts on BL with a "0" feedback score
there is no way to tell who is truly a AFOL or a scammer. They also don't
have the time or resources to monitor every item that every seller has listed
for sale in their inventory and at what price.
I do agree that something needs to be done about the large number of scammers
that do seem to be appearing lately but the question is how??
Maybe set up a system that monitors new sellers with a feedback score of, lets
say, 25 or less and has items (or sets) at a price set below the 6 month average??
I'm not a programmer so I don't know if that would even be possible.
CJ.
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| | | | | | | Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Oct 29, 2014 09:33 | | Subject: | Re: Stop Bogus Sellers | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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Easy, follow up fast on this kind of notification. BUT: report them through HelpDesk
and NOT only in the forum. The forum gets far less attention by CS than the HelpDesk
calls!
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| | | | | | | Author: | Brettj666 | | Posted: | Oct 29, 2014 09:44 | | Subject: | Re: Stop Bogus Sellers | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, cjgordon926 writes:
| | In Suggestions, Rick83 writes:
| | I'm very annoyed with bogus sellers appeared in the last month in Spain,
Portugal, Gibraltar, Andorra and southern France. Bricklink administrators don't
work actively to stop this problem. There are at least 3 seller in this moment
offering rare sets with low prices. With 0 feedbacks and they just been registered.
These sellers are very suspicious.
This kind of scam are very pernicious for a good working in this marketplace,
Please stop this kind of activities.
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How would they do that?? Since everyone starts on BL with a "0" feedback score
there is no way to tell who is truly a AFOL or a scammer. They also don't
have the time or resources to monitor every item that every seller has listed
for sale in their inventory and at what price.
I do agree that something needs to be done about the large number of scammers
that do seem to be appearing lately but the question is how??
Maybe set up a system that monitors new sellers with a feedback score of, lets
say, 25 or less and has items (or sets) at a price set below the 6 month average??
I'm not a programmer so I don't know if that would even be possible.
CJ.
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I would say the way to go is limit the amount they can list for sale without
some due diligence of verification.
If you say "You can't list below the 6 month average", if I was a scammer,
I'd say "Ok", and list at the average or just slightly above, and then offer
free shipping.
Honestly, I'd be suspicious of anyone coming to BL on day one, setting up
a store, listing things without asking questions or taking the time to read
all the help files. Not like it's impossible, but..
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | cjgordon926 | | Posted: | Oct 29, 2014 09:50 | | Subject: | Re: Stop Bogus Sellers | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
| | In Suggestions, cjgordon926 writes:
| | In Suggestions, Rick83 writes:
| | I'm very annoyed with bogus sellers appeared in the last month in Spain,
Portugal, Gibraltar, Andorra and southern France. Bricklink administrators don't
work actively to stop this problem. There are at least 3 seller in this moment
offering rare sets with low prices. With 0 feedbacks and they just been registered.
These sellers are very suspicious.
This kind of scam are very pernicious for a good working in this marketplace,
Please stop this kind of activities.
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How would they do that?? Since everyone starts on BL with a "0" feedback score
there is no way to tell who is truly a AFOL or a scammer. They also don't
have the time or resources to monitor every item that every seller has listed
for sale in their inventory and at what price.
I do agree that something needs to be done about the large number of scammers
that do seem to be appearing lately but the question is how??
Maybe set up a system that monitors new sellers with a feedback score of, lets
say, 25 or less and has items (or sets) at a price set below the 6 month average??
I'm not a programmer so I don't know if that would even be possible.
CJ.
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I would say the way to go is limit the amount they can list for sale without
some due diligence of verification.
If you say "You can't list below the 6 month average", if I was a scammer,
I'd say "Ok", and list at the average or just slightly above, and then offer
free shipping.
Honestly, I'd be suspicious of anyone coming to BL on day one, setting up
a store, listing things without asking questions or taking the time to read
all the help files. Not like it's impossible, but..
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I agree!! I've been on BL since 2007 (as a buyer) and am just now setting
up a store, I still have a ton of questions that I'm finding answers for
so I am baffled by people who can open a store and hit the ground running on
the same day that they sign up on BL!!
CJ
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Spudz27 | | Posted: | Oct 29, 2014 10:31 | | Subject: | Re: Stop Bogus Sellers | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, cjgordon926 writes:
| | In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
| | In Suggestions, cjgordon926 writes:
| | In Suggestions, Rick83 writes:
| | I'm very annoyed with bogus sellers appeared in the last month in Spain,
Portugal, Gibraltar, Andorra and southern France. Bricklink administrators don't
work actively to stop this problem. There are at least 3 seller in this moment
offering rare sets with low prices. With 0 feedbacks and they just been registered.
These sellers are very suspicious.
This kind of scam are very pernicious for a good working in this marketplace,
Please stop this kind of activities.
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How would they do that?? Since everyone starts on BL with a "0" feedback score
there is no way to tell who is truly a AFOL or a scammer. They also don't
have the time or resources to monitor every item that every seller has listed
for sale in their inventory and at what price.
I do agree that something needs to be done about the large number of scammers
that do seem to be appearing lately but the question is how??
Maybe set up a system that monitors new sellers with a feedback score of, lets
say, 25 or less and has items (or sets) at a price set below the 6 month average??
I'm not a programmer so I don't know if that would even be possible.
CJ.
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I would say the way to go is limit the amount they can list for sale without
some due diligence of verification.
If you say "You can't list below the 6 month average", if I was a scammer,
I'd say "Ok", and list at the average or just slightly above, and then offer
free shipping.
Honestly, I'd be suspicious of anyone coming to BL on day one, setting up
a store, listing things without asking questions or taking the time to read
all the help files. Not like it's impossible, but..
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I agree!! I've been on BL since 2007 (as a buyer) and am just now setting
up a store, I still have a ton of questions that I'm finding answers for
so I am baffled by people who can open a store and hit the ground running on
the same day that they sign up on BL!!
CJ
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I am new here wish I had known of this site a year ago. On other sites I am a
member of (not lego related) you must have feedback of 10 before you can sell,
you also must have a certain amount of forum posts. This is to try and stop scammers
and it seems to have worked, however there is 1/10th the member base. Another
simple one is just buy from people who have 95% or better feedback.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Brettj666 | | Posted: | Oct 29, 2014 10:39 | | Subject: | Re: Stop Bogus Sellers | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Spudz27 writes:
| | In Suggestions, cjgordon926 writes:
| | In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
| | In Suggestions, cjgordon926 writes:
| | In Suggestions, Rick83 writes:
| | I'm very annoyed with bogus sellers appeared in the last month in Spain,
Portugal, Gibraltar, Andorra and southern France. Bricklink administrators don't
work actively to stop this problem. There are at least 3 seller in this moment
offering rare sets with low prices. With 0 feedbacks and they just been registered.
These sellers are very suspicious.
This kind of scam are very pernicious for a good working in this marketplace,
Please stop this kind of activities.
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How would they do that?? Since everyone starts on BL with a "0" feedback score
there is no way to tell who is truly a AFOL or a scammer. They also don't
have the time or resources to monitor every item that every seller has listed
for sale in their inventory and at what price.
I do agree that something needs to be done about the large number of scammers
that do seem to be appearing lately but the question is how??
Maybe set up a system that monitors new sellers with a feedback score of, lets
say, 25 or less and has items (or sets) at a price set below the 6 month average??
I'm not a programmer so I don't know if that would even be possible.
CJ.
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I would say the way to go is limit the amount they can list for sale without
some due diligence of verification.
If you say "You can't list below the 6 month average", if I was a scammer,
I'd say "Ok", and list at the average or just slightly above, and then offer
free shipping.
Honestly, I'd be suspicious of anyone coming to BL on day one, setting up
a store, listing things without asking questions or taking the time to read
all the help files. Not like it's impossible, but..
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I agree!! I've been on BL since 2007 (as a buyer) and am just now setting
up a store, I still have a ton of questions that I'm finding answers for
so I am baffled by people who can open a store and hit the ground running on
the same day that they sign up on BL!!
CJ
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I am new here wish I had known of this site a year ago. On other sites I am a
member of (not lego related) you must have feedback of 10 before you can sell,
you also must have a certain amount of forum posts. This is to try and stop scammers
and it seems to have worked, however there is 1/10th the member base. Another
simple one is just buy from people who have 95% or better feedback.
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A LOT of people don't know the forum exists, so (if I was in control), I
wouldn't make that a requirement, but I'd make selling on an approval
basis.
Including a phone call.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Macaronis | | Posted: | Oct 29, 2014 11:20 | | Subject: | Re: Stop Bogus Sellers | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, cjgordon926 writes:
| | In Suggestions, Rick83 writes:
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| | How would they do that?? Since everyone starts on BL with a "0" feedback score
there is no way to tell who is truly a AFOL or a scammer. They also don't
have the time or resources to monitor every item that every seller has listed
for sale in their inventory and at what price.
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There is something that CAN BE done to prevent this. Problem is its clear over
the last Decade+ of me hinting this solution to Dan, Eric and some of the folks
here they have NO idea how to fully utilize the functionality of a DB. The Solution
is something learned in DB Analysis 101. Outside of me complaining about it I
don't understand why its such a Hard thing to do unless the Original DB was
created in such a Poor Manner there is NO way to get that info, which means someone
SHOULD clean it up and start from scratch. I had asked in the past and never
got a response so I let it go.
As far as I see it with some common sense its should be pretty obvious who the
scammers are. If you can see it, the DB can be made aware of it the same way
you visually see the Obvious scammers.
If you don't believe me, Sit back and do some of your Own analysis on what
triggers you to say hey that person is a Scammer. That info you just came up
with CAN be created in a backend Script to do it AUTOMATICALLY and told to output
a particular solution such as Lock account or email the admin. Automation isn't
hard, you just have to have a clue on what to look for.
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| | | | | Author: | Afinke1 | | Posted: | Oct 29, 2014 14:26 | | Subject: | Re: Stop Bogus Sellers | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Rick83 writes:
| | I'm very annoyed with bogus sellers appeared in the last month in Spain,
Portugal, Gibraltar, Andorra and southern France. Bricklink administrators don't
work actively to stop this problem. There are at least 3 seller in this moment
offering rare sets with low prices. With 0 feedbacks and they just been registered.
These sellers are very suspicious.
This kind of scam are very pernicious for a good working in this marketplace,
Please stop this kind of activities.
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As I said I've found at least 3 users in the last week, It's easy to
stop the scammers.
They work in this way:
- they are selling rare sets at a "good" price
- Don't allow or don't have a paypal account
- They have 0 Feebacks and the same day they are logged open an store
- They know which sets has a valuable price
- They are located in (Spain, Portugal, Gibraltar, Andorra and France)
- Don't reply if you ask for pictures.
I think is the same person or group of persons.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Brettj666 | | Posted: | Oct 29, 2014 14:38 | | Subject: | Re: Stop Bogus Sellers | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, legogel writes:
| | In Suggestions, Rick83 writes:
| | I'm very annoyed with bogus sellers appeared in the last month in Spain,
Portugal, Gibraltar, Andorra and southern France. Bricklink administrators don't
work actively to stop this problem. There are at least 3 seller in this moment
offering rare sets with low prices. With 0 feedbacks and they just been registered.
These sellers are very suspicious.
This kind of scam are very pernicious for a good working in this marketplace,
Please stop this kind of activities.
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As I said I've found at least 3 users in the last week, It's easy to
stop the scammers.
They work in this way:
- they are selling rare sets at a "good" price
- Don't allow or don't have a paypal account
- They have 0 Feebacks and the same day they are logged open an store
- They know which sets has a valuable price
- They are located in (Spain, Portugal, Gibraltar, Andorra and France)
- Don't reply if you ask for pictures.
I think is the same person or group of persons.
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It's possible that it's the same group, but as an analyst, I'll tell
you if you look for patterns, I'd change methods before giving up (if I was
a scammer)
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