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 Author: bb18295 View Messages Posted By bb18295
 Posted: Apr 10, 2014 16:27
 Subject: Show BL Fees Charged in Order Details
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As a companion to these two suggestions:

http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=802848

and

http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=779286

please provide sellers with the option of having the ORDER DETAILS page show
the BrickLink and PayPal fees charged for that order.

The above two suggestions ask for these fees to be shown (and totaled) on the
Orders Received page and Order Downloads. This suggestion asks for such fees
to also be shown on the Order Details page for each individual order, if the
seller wishes.

My accountant would love to have these numbers seen on all these pages. It would
make things easier and more convenient as far as bookkeeping and tax records
are concerned.

Thor
 Author: dmoser22 View Messages Posted By dmoser22
 Posted: Apr 10, 2014 17:22
 Subject: Re: Show BL Fees Charged in Order Details
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In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
  As a companion to these two suggestions:

http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=802848

and

http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=779286

please provide sellers with the option of having the ORDER DETAILS page show
the BrickLink and PayPal fees charged for that order.

The above two suggestions ask for these fees to be shown (and totaled) on the
Orders Received page and Order Downloads. This suggestion asks for such fees
to also be shown on the Order Details page for each individual order, if the
seller wishes.

My accountant would love to have these numbers seen on all these pages. It would
make things easier and more convenient as far as bookkeeping and tax records
are concerned.

Thor

How would BL know what PayPal fees were charged? I have a micropayments account
and a regular account, so there are different fees paid depending on how I invoice
(not something that BL would be able to discern), and sometimes people send "Personal"
payments that get no fees (unable for BL to discern), and some people select
PayPal as their payment method and then pay some other way, or vice versa (unable
for BL to discern.)

-djm
 Author: bb18295 View Messages Posted By bb18295
 Posted: Apr 10, 2014 17:29
 Subject: Re: Show BL Fees Charged in Order Details
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In Suggestions, dmoser22 writes:
  In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
  As a companion to these two suggestions:

http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=802848

and

http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=779286

please provide sellers with the option of having the ORDER DETAILS page show
the BrickLink and PayPal fees charged for that order.

The above two suggestions ask for these fees to be shown (and totaled) on the
Orders Received page and Order Downloads. This suggestion asks for such fees
to also be shown on the Order Details page for each individual order, if the
seller wishes.

My accountant would love to have these numbers seen on all these pages. It would
make things easier and more convenient as far as bookkeeping and tax records
are concerned.

Thor

How would BL know what PayPal fees were charged?

In one of the companion suggestions noted above, I explained that the seller
would have to manually enter the PayPal (or other online payment) fee they paid
on their Orders Received page. Just like they now manually enter shipping, other
charges and credits. I would rather do this when I receive payment and mark the
order as paid, then let this all pile up and then have to enter it for hundreds
or thousands of orders at the end of the year.

  I have a micropayments account
and a regular account, so there are different fees paid depending on how I invoice
(not something that BL would be able to discern), and sometimes people send "Personal"
payments that get no fees (unable for BL to discern), and some people select
PayPal as their payment method and then pay some other way, or vice versa (unable
for BL to discern.)


I don't know why BL would need to discern the type of fee paid. I just want
to enter the online payment processing fees I paid for each order. If you want
separate entries for each type of fee, that would work too.

Thor
 Author: Miro78 View Messages Posted By Miro78
 Posted: Apr 10, 2014 21:12
 Subject: Re: Show BL Fees Charged in Order Details
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Miro78 (2361)

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In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
  In Suggestions, dmoser22 writes:
  In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
  As a companion to these two suggestions:

http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=802848

and

http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=779286

please provide sellers with the option of having the ORDER DETAILS page show
the BrickLink and PayPal fees charged for that order.

The above two suggestions ask for these fees to be shown (and totaled) on the
Orders Received page and Order Downloads. This suggestion asks for such fees
to also be shown on the Order Details page for each individual order, if the
seller wishes.

My accountant would love to have these numbers seen on all these pages. It would
make things easier and more convenient as far as bookkeeping and tax records
are concerned.

Thor

How would BL know what PayPal fees were charged?

In one of the companion suggestions noted above, I explained that the seller
would have to manually enter the PayPal (or other online payment) fee they paid
on their Orders Received page. Just like they now manually enter shipping, other
charges and credits. I would rather do this when I receive payment and mark the
order as paid, then let this all pile up and then have to enter it for hundreds
or thousands of orders at the end of the year.

Thor,
You can request an online history download from PayPal for your account (say
from Jan 1 to Dec 31) and you will get an e-mail to download a tab dilimted file
which you can then in Excel sum all of the fees. It took me less than one minute.
I am not saying that you shouldn't have this option you are suggesting, but
just giving you and others a simple way to add up a year's of PayPal fees.
In my case that was about 580 transactions worth for last year.

Miro


  
  I have a micropayments account
and a regular account, so there are different fees paid depending on how I invoice
(not something that BL would be able to discern), and sometimes people send "Personal"
payments that get no fees (unable for BL to discern), and some people select
PayPal as their payment method and then pay some other way, or vice versa (unable
for BL to discern.)


I don't know why BL would need to discern the type of fee paid. I just want
to enter the online payment processing fees I paid for each order. If you want
separate entries for each type of fee, that would work too.

Thor
 Author: bb18295 View Messages Posted By bb18295
 Posted: Apr 10, 2014 22:34
 Subject: Re: Show BL Fees Charged in Order Details
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In Suggestions, Miro78 writes:
  In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
  In Suggestions, dmoser22 writes:
  In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
  As a companion to these two suggestions:

http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=802848

and

http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=779286

please provide sellers with the option of having the ORDER DETAILS page show
the BrickLink and PayPal fees charged for that order.

The above two suggestions ask for these fees to be shown (and totaled) on the
Orders Received page and Order Downloads. This suggestion asks for such fees
to also be shown on the Order Details page for each individual order, if the
seller wishes.

My accountant would love to have these numbers seen on all these pages. It would
make things easier and more convenient as far as bookkeeping and tax records
are concerned.

Thor

How would BL know what PayPal fees were charged?

In one of the companion suggestions noted above, I explained that the seller
would have to manually enter the PayPal (or other online payment) fee they paid
on their Orders Received page. Just like they now manually enter shipping, other
charges and credits. I would rather do this when I receive payment and mark the
order as paid, then let this all pile up and then have to enter it for hundreds
or thousands of orders at the end of the year.

Thor,
You can request an online history download from PayPal for your account (say
from Jan 1 to Dec 31) and you will get an e-mail to download a tab dilimted file
which you can then in Excel sum all of the fees. It took me less than one minute.
I am not saying that you shouldn't have this option you are suggesting, but
just giving you and others a simple way to add up a year's of PayPal fees.
In my case that was about 580 transactions worth for last year.

Miro


I understand Miro. But the download I got from PayPal for 2013 is 125 pages long.
AND, PayPal needlessly complicates things by having multiple entries for each
payment. Furthermore, this download does not match payments and fees with specific
BL orders - or even designate whether they are for BL orders or orders from elsewhere.

Like I mentioned elsewhere, I don't just want the totals. I want everything
separated out for each individual order. This is what my tax accountant has advised
me to do now that I have multiple payments and expenses coming into the same
PayPal account from multiple different sources.

Thor
 Author: Zixx View Messages Posted By Zixx
 Posted: Apr 10, 2014 20:29
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A box for Paypal fees, yes for sure. But for Bricklink, can't you just add
the monthly billings from Jan - Dec of that year to easily get the Bricklink
fees charged? That seems just as easy.

In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
  As a companion to these two suggestions:

http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=802848

and

http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=779286

please provide sellers with the option of having the ORDER DETAILS page show
the BrickLink and PayPal fees charged for that order.

The above two suggestions ask for these fees to be shown (and totaled) on the
Orders Received page and Order Downloads. This suggestion asks for such fees
to also be shown on the Order Details page for each individual order, if the
seller wishes.

My accountant would love to have these numbers seen on all these pages. It would
make things easier and more convenient as far as bookkeeping and tax records
are concerned.

Thor
 Author: bb18295 View Messages Posted By bb18295
 Posted: Apr 10, 2014 22:28
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In Suggestions, Zixx writes:
  A box for Paypal fees, yes for sure. But for Bricklink, can't you just add
the monthly billings from Jan - Dec of that year to easily get the Bricklink
fees charged? That seems just as easy.


Of course I can get the totals. But I would also like to know the fees paid on
each order AND have that information right there on the order itself. From January
1st of this year I am keeping a spreadsheet that enters various details for each
order - e.g. order amount, shipping, insurance, fees, credits, refunds, grand
total, cost of goods, BL fee, PayPal fee, other payments/expenses, etc., - each
associated with that particular order. My tax accountant advised me to do things
this way now that I have started selling on multiple venues and have income and
expenses coming and going out of one PayPal account. He says it is easier to
match up everything if I should ever get audited.

Seriously... this should not be a problem at all. Very simple to code actually,
and I am sure many other sellers could use it too. I don't really see any
reason not to have it as an option for those who want or need it. It would definitely
help many of us with our record-keeping.

Thor


  In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
  As a companion to these two suggestions:

http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=802848

and

http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=779286

please provide sellers with the option of having the ORDER DETAILS page show
the BrickLink and PayPal fees charged for that order.

The above two suggestions ask for these fees to be shown (and totaled) on the
Orders Received page and Order Downloads. This suggestion asks for such fees
to also be shown on the Order Details page for each individual order, if the
seller wishes.

My accountant would love to have these numbers seen on all these pages. It would
make things easier and more convenient as far as bookkeeping and tax records
are concerned.

Thor
 Author: dmoser22 View Messages Posted By dmoser22
 Posted: Apr 10, 2014 23:34
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Store: Boney's Brickyard
In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
  In Suggestions, Zixx writes:
  A box for Paypal fees, yes for sure. But for Bricklink, can't you just add
the monthly billings from Jan - Dec of that year to easily get the Bricklink
fees charged? That seems just as easy.


Of course I can get the totals. But I would also like to know the fees paid on
each order AND have that information right there on the order itself. From January
1st of this year I am keeping a spreadsheet that enters various details for each
order - e.g. order amount, shipping, insurance, fees, credits, refunds, grand
total, cost of goods, BL fee, PayPal fee, other payments/expenses, etc., - each
associated with that particular order. My tax accountant advised me to do things
this way now that I have started selling on multiple venues and have income and
expenses coming and going out of one PayPal account. He says it is easier to
match up everything if I should ever get audited.

Seriously... this should not be a problem at all. Very simple to code actually,
and I am sure many other sellers could use it too. I don't really see any
reason not to have it as an option for those who want or need it. It would definitely
help many of us with our record-keeping.

Thor


  In Suggestions, fosterbengoshi writes:
  As a companion to these two suggestions:

http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=802848

and

http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=779286

please provide sellers with the option of having the ORDER DETAILS page show
the BrickLink and PayPal fees charged for that order.

The above two suggestions ask for these fees to be shown (and totaled) on the
Orders Received page and Order Downloads. This suggestion asks for such fees
to also be shown on the Order Details page for each individual order, if the
seller wishes.

My accountant would love to have these numbers seen on all these pages. It would
make things easier and more convenient as far as bookkeeping and tax records
are concerned.

Thor

I'm not sure what accounting software you use (if any), so YMMV, but in Quicken
it's pretty easy to split transactions into multiple lines. I have a Quicken
account set up for each of my PayPal accounts, and once a month or so I pull
up my PayPal history and manually enter the info into Quicken. For each BL order,
I put the net amount in as the transaction total, then split it into 2 lines:
what was paid by the buyer ("BL Sales" category), with the remaining negative
amount on a second line ("PP Fees" category). It's a little labor intensive,
but gets quicker with practice, and then you have all the data so you can easily
summarize activity in either category however you want.

-djm
 Author: bb18295 View Messages Posted By bb18295
 Posted: Apr 10, 2014 23:43
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In Suggestions, dmoser22 writes:
  
I'm not sure what accounting software you use (if any), so YMMV, but in Quicken
it's pretty easy to split transactions into multiple lines. I have a Quicken
account set up for each of my PayPal accounts, and once a month or so I pull
up my PayPal history and manually enter the info into Quicken. For each BL order,
I put the net amount in as the transaction total, then split it into 2 lines:
what was paid by the buyer ("BL Sales" category), with the remaining negative
amount on a second line ("PP Fees" category). It's a little labor intensive,
but gets quicker with practice, and then you have all the data so you can easily
summarize activity in either category however you want.

-djm

What version of Quicken do you use? My accountant created something customized
just for me. Right now I am entering everything manually. But he wants me to
also keep paper records of every order, and he wants those paper records to clearly
document and substantiate all monies coming in and out - as much as possible
on a per order basis.

Thor
 Author: TBS View Messages Posted By TBS
 Posted: Apr 11, 2014 01:35
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Great Idea, Voted YES.

saves a lot of scribbling and time.
currently i (we,us) have to write this down for every single order on the sheet
manually,
which takes hours.
Time which could be invested much better.

Thanks for the suggestion, lets see what comes up.