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| | | Author: | WILYKAT  | | Posted: | Mar 31, 2014 03:31 | | Subject: | VAT option? | | Viewed: | 145 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| Some European store requires VAT but some display price with VAT included and
some display [rice without VAT. This can skew the price guide a bit and can interfere
with people searching for best price. I almost missed very cheap source of bricks
because the cheapest store included 19% VAT and when that is factored in, it
ended up being a lot cheaper to ship an order of 500 bricks from Germany to USA
than the cheapest USA source.
People in Europe also can get misleading result when the lowest price they find
do not include VAT. The buyers would have to search multiple stores manually
to check if VAT is included or not, and to add estimated VAT to those that don't
include VAT.
My suggestion:
add these options to the store setting:
Do the store require VAT? Yes/No (outside Europe the tax may be under different
terms, such as HST and GST in Canada)
Do seller want to include VAT in price? Yes/No This way store that already have
VAT included in price can either choose to temporarily opt out until price are
adjusted, then change to yes. Or they can choose not to participate in this and
leave the manual calculation to seller. By setting to YES, the price are automatically
adjusted for European buyers that has to pay VAT, and not raised for non European
buyers.
That way when the price guide are updated with new sales, the parts flagged as
VAT included can be adjusted to reflect correct price. And buyers outside Europe
can see cheaper price while buyers in Europe won't get mislead with low price.
In theory it shouldn't be hard to implement it. It's one extra calculation
on server end, and a couple more options to save. The challenge is figuring the
correct percent (seller enters %) and making sure the seller doesn't abuse
this to collect personal taxes rather than paying the taxes to the government.
Taxes gives me headaches, I'll let the expert sort it out if this is considered
viable suggestion.
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| | | | | Author: | minithings4life | | Posted: | Mar 31, 2014 03:39 | | Subject: | Re: VAT option? | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| According to the Help section, the price guide already removed the VAT to buyers
who are not obliged to pay it.
•Price Guide - Items including VAT are shown and included in averages gross (including
VAT) when shown to buyers and sellers to whom the VAT applies and net (excluding
VAT) when shown to buyers and sellers to whom the VAT does not apply.
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| | | | | Author: | BLUSER_195088 | | Posted: | Mar 31, 2014 07:17 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | | | | | Author: | gvbricks | | Posted: | Mar 31, 2014 07:24 | | Subject: | Re: VAT option? | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Nagyzee writes:
| | Same goes for the price guide. My recent sales for example are in the price guide
at a gross price if I view the price guide from an EU IP and they are there at
net price if I check it from a non-EU IP.
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Interesting, didn't know that. Interesting feature, I will try that.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | BLUSER_195088 | | Posted: | Mar 31, 2014 18:00 | | Subject: | Re: VAT option? | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Admiral_Brick writes:
| | In Suggestions, Nagyzee writes:
| | Same goes for the price guide. My recent sales for example are in the price guide
at a gross price if I view the price guide from an EU IP and they are there at
net price if I check it from a non-EU IP.
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Interesting, didn't know that. Interesting feature, I will try that.
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I'm not entirely sure about this, will have to check it again myself.
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| | | | | Author: | gvbricks | | Posted: | Mar 31, 2014 07:21 | | Subject: | Re: VAT option? | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| My prices include VAT. The item prices shown to buyers from an EU country are
with VAT, the prices shown to buyers from outside the EU like you are without
VAT. European buyer's can't get misleaded because the item prices shown
to them do always include VAT.
The items prices in the price guide resulting from my sales are always considered
with VAT, no matter if buyers from inside or outside of the EU have purchased
the items.
In Suggestions, WILYKAT writes:
| | Some European store requires VAT but some display price with VAT included and
some display [rice without VAT. This can skew the price guide a bit and can interfere
with people searching for best price. I almost missed very cheap source of bricks
because the cheapest store included 19% VAT and when that is factored in, it
ended up being a lot cheaper to ship an order of 500 bricks from Germany to USA
than the cheapest USA source.
People in Europe also can get misleading result when the lowest price they find
do not include VAT. The buyers would have to search multiple stores manually
to check if VAT is included or not, and to add estimated VAT to those that don't
include VAT.
My suggestion:
add these options to the store setting:
Do the store require VAT? Yes/No (outside Europe the tax may be under different
terms, such as HST and GST in Canada)
Do seller want to include VAT in price? Yes/No This way store that already have
VAT included in price can either choose to temporarily opt out until price are
adjusted, then change to yes. Or they can choose not to participate in this and
leave the manual calculation to seller. By setting to YES, the price are automatically
adjusted for European buyers that has to pay VAT, and not raised for non European
buyers.
That way when the price guide are updated with new sales, the parts flagged as
VAT included can be adjusted to reflect correct price. And buyers outside Europe
can see cheaper price while buyers in Europe won't get mislead with low price.
In theory it shouldn't be hard to implement it. It's one extra calculation
on server end, and a couple more options to save. The challenge is figuring the
correct percent (seller enters %) and making sure the seller doesn't abuse
this to collect personal taxes rather than paying the taxes to the government.
Taxes gives me headaches, I'll let the expert sort it out if this is considered
viable suggestion.
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| | | | | | | Author: | WILYKAT | | Posted: | Mar 31, 2014 17:57 | | Subject: | Re: VAT option? | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Admiral_Brick writes:
| | My prices include VAT. The item prices shown to buyers from an EU country are
with VAT, the prices shown to buyers from outside the EU like you are without
VAT. European buyer's can't get misleaded because the item prices shown
to them do always include VAT.
The items prices in the price guide resulting from my sales are always considered
with VAT, no matter if buyers from inside or outside of the EU have purchased
the items.
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Didn't know that. It just that some store has VAT included in price in the
disclaimer and I never realized BL already auto-adjust VAT prices for those of
us who don't pay VAT.
Suggestion should be dismissed after all. And I'll go write 1,000 lines of
"I will read the help before making suggestion"
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | tomte | | Posted: | May 18, 2014 12:01 | | Subject: | Re: VAT option? | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Hi
actually the way VAT has been set up is good.
Stores liable to VAT can change store currency to their home currency and prices
shown to people that must pay VAT include VAT and prices shown to buyer's
that need not to pay VAT are also displayed accordingly.
This suggestion already exists.
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