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 Author: Starbug View Messages Posted By Starbug
 Posted: May 28, 2011 08:36
 Subject: Minimum quantity option
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Hello.

I would like to suggest the implementation of an option for sellers to select
EITHER bulk quantity OR minimum quantity.

I know in the past a minimum quantity feature was suggested in addition to the
current bulk option. Admin even suggested that instead there could be the option
that I am suggesting now, that sellers could choose between EITHER one OR the
other, but it didn't really get much of a response on the forum at the time.

So, I'm suggesting it now. Please vote yes or now if you think this would be
a good option or not. I know it's probably not as useful as having both minimum
and bulk options at the same time, but I think it would be a less confusing option
for buyers, to see only one or the other, and possibly easier for Admin to implement
(though don't hold me on that).

The obvious advantage to this would be that buyers wouldn't be restricted to
buy multiples or 20 or 50 or 100 etc, they would simply have to meet the minimum
of 2 or 5 or 10 etc. Like I say, sellers could choose to still use the current
bulk option, but have the choice of the minimum if they preferred it.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts/votes.

Dave
 Author: Rob_and_Shelagh View Messages Posted By Rob_and_Shelagh
 Posted: May 28, 2011 08:55
 Subject: Re: Minimum quantity option
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In Suggestions, STARBUG writes:
  Hello.

I would like to suggest the implementation of an option for sellers to select
EITHER bulk quantity OR minimum quantity.

I know in the past a minimum quantity feature was suggested in addition to the
current bulk option. Admin even suggested that instead there could be the option
that I am suggesting now, that sellers could choose between EITHER one OR the
other, but it didn't really get much of a response on the forum at the time.

So, I'm suggesting it now. Please vote yes or now if you think this would be
a good option or not. I know it's probably not as useful as having both minimum
and bulk options at the same time, but I think it would be a less confusing option
for buyers, to see only one or the other, and possibly easier for Admin to implement
(though don't hold me on that).

The obvious advantage to this would be that buyers wouldn't be restricted to
buy multiples or 20 or 50 or 100 etc, they would simply have to meet the minimum
of 2 or 5 or 10 etc. Like I say, sellers could choose to still use the current
bulk option, but have the choice of the minimum if they preferred it.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts/votes.

Dave

Hi Dave,

I like the idea of a min buy option. Buyers generally relate to this easier than
the bulk concept.

How would this show in the price guide? With this proposal, the PG will be (depending
on what sellers choose to do) a mixture of "free to purchase any quantity", current
bulk multiples and minimum order quantity (as well as the old issue of tiered
pricing not being represented in the PG).

If something like this were to get implemented, I'd like some sort of simple
(for non-experienced buyers) to understand symbols or something in the PG so
that buyers do not get drawn into a store only to then find that they need to
buy 100 when they actually want 9. Also, if a store still implements per lot
charges (and these are not disallowed as part of the implementation), this should
be shown in the PG too so that buyers who want 100 lots don't get drawn into
a store that is only interested in simple orders.

Net, I would vote for it if it makes the system simpler for newcommers to understand
but not if it makes it more complex or confusing.

Robert
 Author: Starbug View Messages Posted By Starbug
 Posted: May 28, 2011 09:07
 Subject: Re: Minimum quantity option
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In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, STARBUG writes:
  Hello.

I would like to suggest the implementation of an option for sellers to select
EITHER bulk quantity OR minimum quantity.

I know in the past a minimum quantity feature was suggested in addition to the
current bulk option. Admin even suggested that instead there could be the option
that I am suggesting now, that sellers could choose between EITHER one OR the
other, but it didn't really get much of a response on the forum at the time.

So, I'm suggesting it now. Please vote yes or now if you think this would be
a good option or not. I know it's probably not as useful as having both minimum
and bulk options at the same time, but I think it would be a less confusing option
for buyers, to see only one or the other, and possibly easier for Admin to implement
(though don't hold me on that).

The obvious advantage to this would be that buyers wouldn't be restricted to
buy multiples or 20 or 50 or 100 etc, they would simply have to meet the minimum
of 2 or 5 or 10 etc. Like I say, sellers could choose to still use the current
bulk option, but have the choice of the minimum if they preferred it.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts/votes.

Dave

Hi Dave,

I like the idea of a min buy option. Buyers generally relate to this easier than
the bulk concept.

How would this show in the price guide? With this proposal, the PG will be (depending
on what sellers choose to do) a mixture of "free to purchase any quantity", current
bulk multiples and minimum order quantity (as well as the old issue of tiered
pricing not being represented in the PG).

If something like this were to get implemented, I'd like some sort of simple
(for non-experienced buyers) to understand symbols or something in the PG so
that buyers do not get drawn into a store only to then find that they need to
buy 100 when they actually want 9. Also, if a store still implements per lot
charges (and these are not disallowed as part of the implementation), this should
be shown in the PG too so that buyers who want 100 lots don't get drawn into
a store that is only interested in simple orders.

Net, I would vote for it if it makes the system simpler for newcommers to understand
but not if it makes it more complex or confusing.

Robert

Hi Robert

Off the top of my head, I would say simply "min" followed by the minimum qty,
and leave the current bulk symbol as is.

So examples would be;

min 10
min 20
x 20
x 50
min 5

etc

Or without the spaces maybe?

Of course, I would be all ears to better suggestions, but I think that's as simple
as you're going to get it.

Dave


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 Author: misbi View Messages Posted By misbi
 Posted: May 28, 2011 10:07
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In Suggestions, STARBUG writes:
  So examples would be;

min 10
min 20
x 20
x 50
min 5

etc

If it had to be a single character for whatever reason then the greater than
symbol should do the trick ie:

>10
>20
x20
x50
>5
etc...
 Author: Rob_and_Shelagh View Messages Posted By Rob_and_Shelagh
 Posted: May 28, 2011 10:13
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In Suggestions, brickcounter writes:
  In Suggestions, STARBUG writes:
  So examples would be;

min 10
min 20
x 20
x 50
min 5

etc

If it had to be a single character for whatever reason then the greater than
symbol should do the trick ie:

>10
>20
x20
x50
>5
etc...

You might have integrated another old suggestion with that one too...

if you could also have the "less than" symbol....

That would also allow sellers to ration the number of a limited availability
part to a certain number per order as has been requested in the past (although
I suppose "max" would also have worked, it just made me remember this).

Robert
 Author: Starbug View Messages Posted By Starbug
 Posted: May 28, 2011 09:14
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In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, STARBUG writes:
  Hello.

I would like to suggest the implementation of an option for sellers to select
EITHER bulk quantity OR minimum quantity.

I know in the past a minimum quantity feature was suggested in addition to the
current bulk option. Admin even suggested that instead there could be the option
that I am suggesting now, that sellers could choose between EITHER one OR the
other, but it didn't really get much of a response on the forum at the time.

So, I'm suggesting it now. Please vote yes or now if you think this would be
a good option or not. I know it's probably not as useful as having both minimum
and bulk options at the same time, but I think it would be a less confusing option
for buyers, to see only one or the other, and possibly easier for Admin to implement
(though don't hold me on that).

The obvious advantage to this would be that buyers wouldn't be restricted to
buy multiples or 20 or 50 or 100 etc, they would simply have to meet the minimum
of 2 or 5 or 10 etc. Like I say, sellers could choose to still use the current
bulk option, but have the choice of the minimum if they preferred it.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts/votes.

Dave

Hi Dave,

I like the idea of a min buy option. Buyers generally relate to this easier than
the bulk concept.

How would this show in the price guide? With this proposal, the PG will be (depending
on what sellers choose to do) a mixture of "free to purchase any quantity", current
bulk multiples and minimum order quantity (as well as the old issue of tiered
pricing not being represented in the PG).

If something like this were to get implemented, I'd like some sort of simple
(for non-experienced buyers) to understand symbols or something in the PG so
that buyers do not get drawn into a store only to then find that they need to
buy 100 when they actually want 9. Also, if a store still implements per lot
charges (and these are not disallowed as part of the implementation), this should
be shown in the PG too so that buyers who want 100 lots don't get drawn into
a store that is only interested in simple orders.

Net, I would vote for it if it makes the system simpler for newcommers to understand
but not if it makes it more complex or confusing.

Robert

Might I add that I think the bulk quantity seems to be confusing enough for buyers
as it is, though the "min" is self explanatory. Maybe even change the "x" to
"bulk" or something. Either way, I don't see how "min" would make things more
confusing, regardless of how confusing the current bulk "X" is.

Dave
 Author: Rob_and_Shelagh View Messages Posted By Rob_and_Shelagh
 Posted: May 28, 2011 09:24
 Subject: Re: Minimum quantity option
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In Suggestions, STARBUG writes:
  In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, STARBUG writes:
  Hello.

I would like to suggest the implementation of an option for sellers to select
EITHER bulk quantity OR minimum quantity.

I know in the past a minimum quantity feature was suggested in addition to the
current bulk option. Admin even suggested that instead there could be the option
that I am suggesting now, that sellers could choose between EITHER one OR the
other, but it didn't really get much of a response on the forum at the time.

So, I'm suggesting it now. Please vote yes or now if you think this would be
a good option or not. I know it's probably not as useful as having both minimum
and bulk options at the same time, but I think it would be a less confusing option
for buyers, to see only one or the other, and possibly easier for Admin to implement
(though don't hold me on that).

The obvious advantage to this would be that buyers wouldn't be restricted to
buy multiples or 20 or 50 or 100 etc, they would simply have to meet the minimum
of 2 or 5 or 10 etc. Like I say, sellers could choose to still use the current
bulk option, but have the choice of the minimum if they preferred it.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts/votes.

Dave

Hi Dave,

I like the idea of a min buy option. Buyers generally relate to this easier than
the bulk concept.

How would this show in the price guide? With this proposal, the PG will be (depending
on what sellers choose to do) a mixture of "free to purchase any quantity", current
bulk multiples and minimum order quantity (as well as the old issue of tiered
pricing not being represented in the PG).

If something like this were to get implemented, I'd like some sort of simple
(for non-experienced buyers) to understand symbols or something in the PG so
that buyers do not get drawn into a store only to then find that they need to
buy 100 when they actually want 9. Also, if a store still implements per lot
charges (and these are not disallowed as part of the implementation), this should
be shown in the PG too so that buyers who want 100 lots don't get drawn into
a store that is only interested in simple orders.

Net, I would vote for it if it makes the system simpler for newcommers to understand
but not if it makes it more complex or confusing.

Robert

Might I add that I think the bulk quantity seems to be confusing enough for buyers
as it is, though the "min" is self explanatory. Maybe even change the "x" to
"bulk" or something. Either way, I don't see how "min" would make things more
confusing, regardless of how confusing the current bulk "X" is.

Dave


Yes, I agree, the bulk quantity does confuse buyers when they 1st experience
it and yes, to me "min" is pretty self explanatory.

It would be nice to come up with a better way of denoting the bulk. "must buy
in multiples of 10" is very clear (in English at least) but is too clumsy for
the PG. Many buyers at 1st think X10 means you get 10 for that price!

I Know it wasn't part of your suggestion and does not need to be but I'd like
it even more if Admin addressed some of the other points in my last post as part
of a wider upgrade.

Robert
 Author: Starbug View Messages Posted By Starbug
 Posted: May 28, 2011 09:36
 Subject: Re: Minimum quantity option
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In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, STARBUG writes:
  In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, STARBUG writes:
  Hello.

I would like to suggest the implementation of an option for sellers to select
EITHER bulk quantity OR minimum quantity.

I know in the past a minimum quantity feature was suggested in addition to the
current bulk option. Admin even suggested that instead there could be the option
that I am suggesting now, that sellers could choose between EITHER one OR the
other, but it didn't really get much of a response on the forum at the time.

So, I'm suggesting it now. Please vote yes or now if you think this would be
a good option or not. I know it's probably not as useful as having both minimum
and bulk options at the same time, but I think it would be a less confusing option
for buyers, to see only one or the other, and possibly easier for Admin to implement
(though don't hold me on that).

The obvious advantage to this would be that buyers wouldn't be restricted to
buy multiples or 20 or 50 or 100 etc, they would simply have to meet the minimum
of 2 or 5 or 10 etc. Like I say, sellers could choose to still use the current
bulk option, but have the choice of the minimum if they preferred it.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts/votes.

Dave

Hi Dave,

I like the idea of a min buy option. Buyers generally relate to this easier than
the bulk concept.

How would this show in the price guide? With this proposal, the PG will be (depending
on what sellers choose to do) a mixture of "free to purchase any quantity", current
bulk multiples and minimum order quantity (as well as the old issue of tiered
pricing not being represented in the PG).

If something like this were to get implemented, I'd like some sort of simple
(for non-experienced buyers) to understand symbols or something in the PG so
that buyers do not get drawn into a store only to then find that they need to
buy 100 when they actually want 9. Also, if a store still implements per lot
charges (and these are not disallowed as part of the implementation), this should
be shown in the PG too so that buyers who want 100 lots don't get drawn into
a store that is only interested in simple orders.

Net, I would vote for it if it makes the system simpler for newcommers to understand
but not if it makes it more complex or confusing.

Robert

Might I add that I think the bulk quantity seems to be confusing enough for buyers
as it is, though the "min" is self explanatory. Maybe even change the "x" to
"bulk" or something. Either way, I don't see how "min" would make things more
confusing, regardless of how confusing the current bulk "X" is.

Dave


Yes, I agree, the bulk quantity does confuse buyers when they 1st experience
it and yes, to me "min" is pretty self explanatory.

It would be nice to come up with a better way of denoting the bulk. "must buy
in multiples of 10" is very clear (in English at least) but is too clumsy for
the PG. Many buyers at 1st think X10 means you get 10 for that price!

I Know it wasn't part of your suggestion and does not need to be but I'd like
it even more if Admin addressed some of the other points in my last post as part
of a wider upgrade.

Robert

Robert, I agree with you 100%. Ideally, we need some symbol/thing/description
as short as possible that makes the bulk feature obvious to inexperienced buyers.
This is an obvious issue, but a separate issue from the proposed minimum buy
feature, and shouldn't hamper its implementation, which unfortunately it seems
to have done so far.

I personally don't see any downside to implementing the minimum feature, though
the Bulk description issue should be addressed, but addressed separately imo.

Dave
 Author: Rob_and_Shelagh View Messages Posted By Rob_and_Shelagh
 Posted: May 28, 2011 09:46
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In Suggestions, STARBUG writes:
  In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, STARBUG writes:
  In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, STARBUG writes:
  Hello.

I would like to suggest the implementation of an option for sellers to select
EITHER bulk quantity OR minimum quantity.

I know in the past a minimum quantity feature was suggested in addition to the
current bulk option. Admin even suggested that instead there could be the option
that I am suggesting now, that sellers could choose between EITHER one OR the
other, but it didn't really get much of a response on the forum at the time.

So, I'm suggesting it now. Please vote yes or now if you think this would be
a good option or not. I know it's probably not as useful as having both minimum
and bulk options at the same time, but I think it would be a less confusing option
for buyers, to see only one or the other, and possibly easier for Admin to implement
(though don't hold me on that).

The obvious advantage to this would be that buyers wouldn't be restricted to
buy multiples or 20 or 50 or 100 etc, they would simply have to meet the minimum
of 2 or 5 or 10 etc. Like I say, sellers could choose to still use the current
bulk option, but have the choice of the minimum if they preferred it.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts/votes.

Dave

Hi Dave,

I like the idea of a min buy option. Buyers generally relate to this easier than
the bulk concept.

How would this show in the price guide? With this proposal, the PG will be (depending
on what sellers choose to do) a mixture of "free to purchase any quantity", current
bulk multiples and minimum order quantity (as well as the old issue of tiered
pricing not being represented in the PG).

If something like this were to get implemented, I'd like some sort of simple
(for non-experienced buyers) to understand symbols or something in the PG so
that buyers do not get drawn into a store only to then find that they need to
buy 100 when they actually want 9. Also, if a store still implements per lot
charges (and these are not disallowed as part of the implementation), this should
be shown in the PG too so that buyers who want 100 lots don't get drawn into
a store that is only interested in simple orders.

Net, I would vote for it if it makes the system simpler for newcommers to understand
but not if it makes it more complex or confusing.

Robert

Might I add that I think the bulk quantity seems to be confusing enough for buyers
as it is, though the "min" is self explanatory. Maybe even change the "x" to
"bulk" or something. Either way, I don't see how "min" would make things more
confusing, regardless of how confusing the current bulk "X" is.

Dave


Yes, I agree, the bulk quantity does confuse buyers when they 1st experience
it and yes, to me "min" is pretty self explanatory.

It would be nice to come up with a better way of denoting the bulk. "must buy
in multiples of 10" is very clear (in English at least) but is too clumsy for
the PG. Many buyers at 1st think X10 means you get 10 for that price!

I Know it wasn't part of your suggestion and does not need to be but I'd like
it even more if Admin addressed some of the other points in my last post as part
of a wider upgrade.

Robert

Robert, I agree with you 100%. Ideally, we need some symbol/thing/description
as short as possible that makes the bulk feature obvious to inexperienced buyers.
This is an obvious issue, but a separate issue from the proposed minimum buy
feature, and shouldn't hamper its implementation, which unfortunately it seems
to have done so far.

I personally don't see any downside to implementing the minimum feature, though
the Bulk description issue should be addressed, but addressed separately imo.

Dave

Yes, for this one on its' own merit, I agree.

My own preference would be to bundle changes together though and announce "packages"
of system upgrades rather than, as has happened in the past, lots of minor changes
getting made and people not hearing about them until they tripped over the part
of the system that changed. That's Admin's call but I think changes could be
communicated better that way to all members via some bulletin on the home screen.

Robert
 Author: misbi View Messages Posted By misbi
 Posted: May 28, 2011 10:21
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In Suggestions, STARBUG writes:
  Hello.

I would like to suggest the implementation of an option for sellers to select
EITHER bulk quantity OR minimum quantity.

Voted yes BTW! I also voted yes to this suggestion:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=475633

Does anybody know if voting for both has a cumulating or diminishing effect on
suggestion weighting?
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In Suggestions, brickcounter writes:
  In Suggestions, STARBUG writes:
  Hello.

I would like to suggest the implementation of an option for sellers to select
EITHER bulk quantity OR minimum quantity.

Voted yes BTW! I also voted yes to this suggestion:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=475633

Does anybody know if voting for both has a cumulating or diminishing effect on
suggestion weighting?

Yes, me too, Yes on both.
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In Suggestions, brickcounter writes:
  In Suggestions, STARBUG writes:
  Hello.

I would like to suggest the implementation of an option for sellers to select
EITHER bulk quantity OR minimum quantity.

Voted yes BTW! I also voted yes to this suggestion:
http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=475633

Does anybody know if voting for both has a cumulating or diminishing effect on
suggestion weighting?

Hi,
given that currently no suggestions are implemented we don't know if voting has
an effect at all.
Regards
Ronald