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 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Dec 22, 2025 15:13
 Subject: Advent Sub-set: New and Assembled?
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peregrinator (1092)

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I know that minifigures are allowed to be assembled and sold as New. I disagree
with that policy but that is neither here nor there. What about Advent calendar
sub-sets, whether they're just minifigures or no? My feeling is no - if a
set is assembled it's used. If a subset is just a minifigure, and it's
assembled, then it can be sold as a "New" minifigure but not a "New"
set. But that's just my opinion.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Dec 22, 2025 15:24
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In Terms and Policies, peregrinator writes:
  I know that minifigures are allowed to be assembled and sold as New. I disagree
with that policy but that is neither here nor there. What about Advent calendar
sub-sets, whether they're just minifigures or no? My feeling is no - if a
set is assembled it's used. If a subset is just a minifigure, and it's
assembled, then it can be sold as a "New" minifigure but not a "New"
set. But that's just my opinion.

Agree. It can¹ be sold as a New minifigure but not in a New set.

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¹ And only because the terms are badly written, not to my liking.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Dec 22, 2025 15:26
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In Terms and Policies, SylvainLS writes:
  In Terms and Policies, peregrinator writes:
  I know that minifigures are allowed to be assembled and sold as New. I disagree
with that policy but that is neither here nor there. What about Advent calendar
sub-sets, whether they're just minifigures or no? My feeling is no - if a
set is assembled it's used. If a subset is just a minifigure, and it's
assembled, then it can be sold as a "New" minifigure but not a "New"
set. But that's just my opinion.

Agree. It can¹ be sold as a New minifigure but not in a New set.

And if the sub-set isn't a minifigure at all, then it can't be sold as
New while having been assembled, is that the general consensus?
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Dec 22, 2025 18:15
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And if the sub-set isn't a minifigure at all, then it can't be sold as
New while having been assembled, is that the general consensus?

Yes
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Dec 22, 2025 15:25
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In Terms and Policies, peregrinator writes:
  I know that minifigures are allowed to be assembled and sold as New. I disagree
with that policy but that is neither here nor there. What about Advent calendar
sub-sets, whether they're just minifigures or no? My feeling is no - if a
set is assembled it's used. If a subset is just a minifigure, and it's
assembled, then it can be sold as a "New" minifigure but not a "New"
set. But that's just my opinion.

Built minifigs can be sold as New historically because sometimes they come built.
Also, what happens to existing store listings when BL finally turns off this
rule. Nightmare.

There's never been any thing about selling built sets as New whether they
are advent or not, I don't see the difference.

~Jen
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Dec 22, 2025 15:28
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In Terms and Policies, jennnifer writes:
  There's never been any thing about selling built sets as New whether they
are advent or not, I don't see the difference.

I brought up these sub-sets specifically since (a) I saw some listings like this
and (b) they're small, packaged in clear polybags, and (c) I guess one could
argue that they're special assemblies. Just wanted confirmation before I
start reporting the listings.
 Author: FLUSH2020 View Messages Posted By FLUSH2020
 Posted: Dec 22, 2025 15:33
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This is more of a comment on your statement on minifigures than an answer to
your question. Sorry for that, but here it goes.

Personally, I totally agree with not assembling minifigures when listing as new.
But I have heard at least 2 contra arguments from dealers thar have at least
some merit.

1) less potential to scratch in shipping when assembled.
2) If displayed in a brick-and-mortar store, along with a bricklink listing,
clients at the brick-and-mortar browse the assembled figures.

A few other notes:

1) Some new figures come assembled (DK books, Minifigure promo sets)
2) Some dealers are unfortunately sketch - and list used figures as new, considering
new as a commentary on condition - totally against the rules, but it does happen.



In Terms and Policies, peregrinator writes:
  I know that minifigures are allowed to be assembled and sold as New. I disagree
with that policy but that is neither here nor there. What about Advent calendar
sub-sets, whether they're just minifigures or no? My feeling is no - if a
set is assembled it's used. If a subset is just a minifigure, and it's
assembled, then it can be sold as a "New" minifigure but not a "New"
set. But that's just my opinion.
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Dec 22, 2025 15:39
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  1) less potential to scratch in shipping when assembled.

on the flip side, it also starts to stress the parts. Most heads form a stress
line these days as soon as they are added to a torso, and the torso will have
pressure from the legs casuing possible cracks
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Dec 22, 2025 15:48
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In Terms and Policies, FLUSH2020 writes:
  This is more of a comment on your statement on minifigures than an answer to
your question. Sorry for that, but here it goes.

Personally, I totally agree with not assembling minifigures when listing as new.
But I have heard at least 2 contra arguments from dealers thar have at least
some merit.

1) less potential to scratch in shipping when assembled.

Yes, I agree with this, assuming it's packed separately. Still - if I'm
ordering a minifigure because I want to part it out, I'd much rather it not
be assembled!

  1) Some new figures come assembled (DK books, Minifigure promo sets)

Sure. In fact in the old days minifigures typically came with the head already
on the torso, even in cases where you had to take the head off to assemble it
fully (like with an airtank).
 Author: zorbanj View Messages Posted By zorbanj
 Posted: Dec 22, 2025 18:19
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In Terms and Policies, FLUSH2020 writes:

  
Personally, I totally agree with not assembling minifigures when listing as new.
But I have heard at least 2 contra arguments from dealers thar have at least
some merit.

1) less potential to scratch in shipping when assembled.

You put the minifig parts in a small baggie and nothing moves or gets scratched.
 Author: ScubaSteve View Messages Posted By ScubaSteve
 Posted: Dec 27, 2025 02:31
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In Terms and Policies, peregrinator writes:
  I know that minifigures are allowed to be assembled and sold as New. I disagree
with that policy but that is neither here nor there. What about Advent calendar
sub-sets, whether they're just minifigures or no? My feeling is no - if a
set is assembled it's used. If a subset is just a minifigure, and it's
assembled, then it can be sold as a "New" minifigure but not a "New"
set. But that's just my opinion.

I have struggled with this a couple of times myself. 95% of the time I part sets
myself and place "New never assembled" in my New listing. The have been
a minor of figs assembled by others during a parting out which I have listed
as "new assembled'.

But I always add in which set it was parted from.