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 Author: Leftoverbricks View Messages Posted By Leftoverbricks
 Posted: May 10, 2025 10:12
 Subject: When are items "marked for deletion" deleted?
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The list of all items marked for deletion is here: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?itemObsolete=Y&v=3

I'm just wondering what the rules are with items marked for deletion. When
will they actually be deleted?

Is it a time frame or sellers no longer listing these or something else?

And for history records: is BL maintaining a list of deleted items?

Martin
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
 Posted: May 10, 2025 10:59
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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  The list of all items marked for deletion is here: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?itemObsolete=Y&v=3

I'm just wondering what the rules are with items marked for deletion. When
will they actually be deleted?

Is it a time frame or sellers no longer listing these or something else?

And for history records: is BL maintaining a list of deleted items?

Martin

As far as I know, all stores with items marked for deletion for sale must,
A. Delete it from the store
B. Sell it and then wait 6 months For the order to be purged.
C. Remove it from the stock room if they added it there.

Then once a item has met one of those guidelines then it will be ready for deletion,
the next step after which is an admin just needs to delete it.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: May 10, 2025 11:40
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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  The list of all items marked for deletion is here: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?itemObsolete=Y&v=3

I'm just wondering what the rules are with items marked for deletion. When
will they actually be deleted?

Is it a time frame or sellers no longer listing these or something else?

Exactly: BrickLink can't both delete a Catalog entry and a seller have a
Cataloged item listed.
So it can take years, up to forever.

Apart if at one moment they force clean it - not sure Catalog people can, that's
an Admin job I guess.


  And for history records: is BL maintaining a list of deleted items?

I would say no, as when deleted it's deleted, so you can't link to it
anymore.
But maybe there's a feature I don't know.

But Administration may have this log, like in case of, to be able to restore
it for example? Don't know.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 10, 2025 11:51
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In Catalog, 1001bricks writes:
  […]
  And for history records: is BL maintaining a list of deleted items?

I would say no, as when deleted it's deleted, so you can't link to it
anymore.
But maybe there's a feature I don't know.

But Administration may have this log, like in case of, to be able to restore
it for example? Don't know.

I think they don’t delete the entries but merge them in a special “all the deleted
stuff” entry.

Or is that what they did and are now not deleting anything anymore?
I remember the cat people meowing about that….
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: May 10, 2025 12:32
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, 1001bricks writes:
  […]
  And for history records: is BL maintaining a list of deleted items?

I would say no, as when deleted it's deleted, so you can't link to it
anymore.
But maybe there's a feature I don't know.

But Administration may have this log, like in case of, to be able to restore
it for example? Don't know.

I think they don’t delete the entries but merge them in a special “all the deleted
stuff” entry.

Or is that what they did and are now not deleting anything anymore?
I remember the cat people meowing about that….

They did delete some cmf figs that were listed with accessories as figs that
were marked for deletion a long time ago and deleted them like a year ago or
so, so it is still being done on occasion
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: May 10, 2025 13:20
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, 1001bricks writes:
  […]
  And for history records: is BL maintaining a list of deleted items?

I would say no, as when deleted it's deleted, so you can't link to it
anymore.
But maybe there's a feature I don't know.

But Administration may have this log, like in case of, to be able to restore
it for example? Don't know.

I think they don’t delete the entries but merge them in a special “all the deleted
stuff” entry.

Or is that what they did and are now not deleting anything anymore?
I remember the cat people meowing about that….

They don't do it much.

There is definitely no deadline. As long as someone has it in their inventory,
I think it stays.
 Author: BricksThatStick View Messages Posted By BricksThatStick
 Posted: May 10, 2025 14:46
 Subject: Re: When are items "marked for deletion" deleted?
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In Catalog, 1001bricks writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  The list of all items marked for deletion is here: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?itemObsolete=Y&v=3

I'm just wondering what the rules are with items marked for deletion. When
will they actually be deleted?

If they are clogging an area of the catalog up then sometimes they are dealt
with.

A lot are marked for deletion because of splits of entries and actually can be
useful just left marked for deletion for reference purposes.

  
  Is it a time frame or sellers no longer listing these or something else?

Exactly: BrickLink can't both delete a Catalog entry and a seller have a
Cataloged item listed.
So it can take years, up to forever.

And even when it appears to a regular user that there are none left listed or
sold you can't see those in closed stores.

  Apart if at one moment they force clean it - not sure Catalog people can, that's
an Admin job I guess.

Yes in those cases the site admins (not us catalog admins) have the power to
do this.

  
  And for history records: is BL maintaining a list of deleted items?

I would say no, as when deleted it's deleted, so you can't link to it
anymore.
But maybe there's a feature I don't know.

But Administration may have this log, like in case of, to be able to restore
it for example? Don't know.

There is no going back. That's why it's not done all that often.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: May 10, 2025 15:19
 Subject: Re: When are items "marked for deletion" deleted?
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In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog, 1001bricks writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  The list of all items marked for deletion is here: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?itemObsolete=Y&v=3

I'm just wondering what the rules are with items marked for deletion. When
will they actually be deleted?

If they are clogging an area of the catalog up then sometimes they are dealt
with.

A lot are marked for deletion because of splits of entries and actually can be
useful just left marked for deletion for reference purposes.

  
  Is it a time frame or sellers no longer listing these or something else?

Exactly: BrickLink can't both delete a Catalog entry and a seller have a
Cataloged item listed.
So it can take years, up to forever.

And even when it appears to a regular user that there are none left listed or
sold you can't see those in closed stores.

  Apart if at one moment they force clean it - not sure Catalog people can, that's
an Admin job I guess.

Yes in those cases the site admins (not us catalog admins) have the power to
do this.

  
  And for history records: is BL maintaining a list of deleted items?

I would say no, as when deleted it's deleted, so you can't link to it
anymore.
But maybe there's a feature I don't know.

But Administration may have this log, like in case of, to be able to restore
it for example? Don't know.

There is no going back. That's why it's not done all that often.

Thanks for your confirmation and details!
 Author: Leftoverbricks View Messages Posted By Leftoverbricks
 Posted: May 11, 2025 03:31
 Subject: Re: When are items "marked for deletion" deleted?
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In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog, 1001bricks writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  The list of all items marked for deletion is here: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?itemObsolete=Y&v=3

I'm just wondering what the rules are with items marked for deletion. When
will they actually be deleted?

If they are clogging an area of the catalog up then sometimes they are dealt
with.

A lot are marked for deletion because of splits of entries and actually can be
useful just left marked for deletion for reference purposes.

  
  Is it a time frame or sellers no longer listing these or something else?

Exactly: BrickLink can't both delete a Catalog entry and a seller have a
Cataloged item listed.
So it can take years, up to forever.

And even when it appears to a regular user that there are none left listed or
sold you can't see those in closed stores.

  Apart if at one moment they force clean it - not sure Catalog people can, that's
an Admin job I guess.

Yes in those cases the site admins (not us catalog admins) have the power to
do this.

  
  And for history records: is BL maintaining a list of deleted items?

I would say no, as when deleted it's deleted, so you can't link to it
anymore.
But maybe there's a feature I don't know.

But Administration may have this log, like in case of, to be able to restore
it for example? Don't know.

There is no going back. That's why it's not done all that often.

Thanks for the clear explanation. The biggest bottleneck is therefore closed
stores that have the item in their stock.
 Author: Leftoverbricks View Messages Posted By Leftoverbricks
 Posted: May 11, 2025 10:09
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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  The list of all items marked for deletion is here: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?itemObsolete=Y&v=3

I'm just wondering what the rules are with items marked for deletion. When
will they actually be deleted?

Is it a time frame or sellers no longer listing these or something else?

And for history records: is BL maintaining a list of deleted items?

Martin

While diving into the pool of items marked for deletion, I came across a couple
of items where it's stated by a catmin that the item will not be deleted,
like this one and it's sisters:

 
Set No: pab2022 Name: Pick-a-Brick (PaB) 2022 Parts
* 		pab2022-1 (Inv) Pick-a-Brick (PaB) 2022 Parts
27 Parts, 2022
Sets: LEGO Brand
Marked for Deletion

The comment says: "The entry has been marked for deletion solely to prevent
any commercial use. There are no plans to actually delete it."

I'm confused...
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  The list of all items marked for deletion is here: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?itemObsolete=Y&v=3

I'm just wondering what the rules are with items marked for deletion. When
will they actually be deleted?

Is it a time frame or sellers no longer listing these or something else?

And for history records: is BL maintaining a list of deleted items?

Martin

While diving into the pool of items marked for deletion, I came across a couple
of items where it's stated by a catmin that the item will not be deleted,
like this one and it's sisters:

 
Set No: pab2022 Name: Pick-a-Brick (PaB) 2022 Parts
* 		pab2022-1 (Inv) Pick-a-Brick (PaB) 2022 Parts
27 Parts, 2022
Sets: LEGO Brand
Marked for Deletion

The comment says: "The entry has been marked for deletion solely to prevent
any commercial use. There are no plans to actually delete it."

I'm confused...

The PaB entries have been created to have a known source for some parts & colours. 
That way we are sure the part exists in that colour.

But a seller shouldn’t be able to sell “PaB 2022” because that’s not a set/gear/….

So the easy solution is to mark pab2022 for deletion because items marked for
deletion can’t be added to a store.
 Author: Leftoverbricks View Messages Posted By Leftoverbricks
 Posted: May 11, 2025 10:41
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  The list of all items marked for deletion is here: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?itemObsolete=Y&v=3

I'm just wondering what the rules are with items marked for deletion. When
will they actually be deleted?

Is it a time frame or sellers no longer listing these or something else?

And for history records: is BL maintaining a list of deleted items?

Martin

While diving into the pool of items marked for deletion, I came across a couple
of items where it's stated by a catmin that the item will not be deleted,
like this one and it's sisters:

 
Set No: pab2022 Name: Pick-a-Brick (PaB) 2022 Parts
* 		pab2022-1 (Inv) Pick-a-Brick (PaB) 2022 Parts
27 Parts, 2022
Sets: LEGO Brand
Marked for Deletion

The comment says: "The entry has been marked for deletion solely to prevent
any commercial use. There are no plans to actually delete it."

I'm confused...

The PaB entries have been created to have a known source for some parts & colours. 
That way we are sure the part exists in that colour.

But a seller shouldn’t be able to sell “PaB 2022” because that’s not a set/gear/….

So the easy solution is to mark pab2022 for deletion because items marked for
deletion can’t be added to a store.

.. the fact that these items cannot be deleted seems to me to contradict the
existence of the category 'marked for deletion'