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Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it
arrives? I have no idea.
 Author: RebelliousBrick View Messages Posted By RebelliousBrick
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In Taxes, Waxwing writes:
  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it
arrives? I have no idea.

Yeah most likely.
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In Taxes, RebelliousBrick writes:
  In Taxes, Waxwing writes:
  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it
arrives? I have no idea.

Yeah most likely.

So will they hold it for pickup at the post office?
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In Taxes, axaday writes:
  In Taxes, RebelliousBrick writes:
  In Taxes, Waxwing writes:
  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it
arrives? I have no idea.

Yeah most likely.

So will they hold it for pickup at the post office?

that's what they do in Canada (tho not tariffs just regular taxes) but some
companies do it different, some will deliver it and the bill you weeks later,
some will let you pay while its in transit and some will let you pay at the door
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In Taxes, Waxwing writes:
  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it
arrives? I have no idea.

It is up to 145% now. And if you don't go for a superfast shipping option,
it will probably be even higher by the time they arrive. You could have opted
for slightly lower tariffs buying Canadian Mega Construx, but they moved manufacturing
to China as well. Maybe opt for some of the big German or other European sellers
and only get the 10% tariff. At least for now.
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In Taxes, Waxwing writes:
  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it arrives?

I have no idea.

I understand, but don't worry. The tariffs implemented on Beijing (now 125%)
are imposed directly onto the importer, not you. That said, the Chinese "importer"
will no doubt make price adjustments moving forward, to offset the additional
cost of selling within the US market.

A simpler way to conceptualize it: tariffs are foreign taxation, or external
source of revenue for the US
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In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Waxwing writes:
  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it arrives?

I have no idea.

I understand, but don't worry. The tariffs implemented on Beijing (now 125%)
are imposed directly onto the importer, not you. That said, the Chinese "importer"
will no doubt make price adjustments moving forward, to offset the additional
cost of selling within the US market.

A simpler way to conceptualize it: tariffs are foreign taxation, or external
source of revenue for the US

So I take it then that we, at least in the US, can order from pretty much any
country that now has tariffs set against them and we dont have to worry about
having to pay any of the tariffs after the order is placed?

Jim.
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In Taxes, TheBrickGuys writes:
  In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Waxwing writes:
  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it arrives?

I have no idea.

I understand, but don't worry. The tariffs implemented on Beijing (now 125%)
are imposed directly onto the importer, not you. That said, the Chinese "importer"
will no doubt make price adjustments moving forward, to offset the additional
cost of selling within the US market.

A simpler way to conceptualize it: tariffs are foreign taxation, or external
source of revenue for the US

So I take it then that we, at least in the US, can order from pretty much any
country that now has tariffs set against them and we dont have to worry about
having to pay any of the tariffs after the order is placed?

Jim.

with deminimis gone for china and others countries soon to follow, (tho who really
knows at this point) you will have to pay stuff on delivery as a regular USA
resident if the package is subject to stuff
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In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Taxes, TheBrickGuys writes:
  In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Waxwing writes:
  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it arrives?

I have no idea.

I understand, but don't worry. The tariffs implemented on Beijing (now 125%)
are imposed directly onto the importer, not you. That said, the Chinese "importer"
will no doubt make price adjustments moving forward, to offset the additional
cost of selling within the US market.

A simpler way to conceptualize it: tariffs are foreign taxation, or external
source of revenue for the US

So I take it then that we, at least in the US, can order from pretty much any
country that now has tariffs set against them and we dont have to worry about
having to pay any of the tariffs after the order is placed?

Jim.

with deminimis gone for china and others countries soon to follow, (tho who really
knows at this point) you will have to pay stuff on delivery as a regular USA
resident if the package is subject to stuff

Good point with "deminimis" though very unlikely to affect the OP
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In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Taxes, TheBrickGuys writes:
  In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Waxwing writes:
  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it arrives?

I have no idea.

I understand, but don't worry. The tariffs implemented on Beijing (now 125%)
are imposed directly onto the importer, not you. That said, the Chinese "importer"
will no doubt make price adjustments moving forward, to offset the additional
cost of selling within the US market.

A simpler way to conceptualize it: tariffs are foreign taxation, or external
source of revenue for the US

So I take it then that we, at least in the US, can order from pretty much any
country that now has tariffs set against them and we dont have to worry about
having to pay any of the tariffs after the order is placed?

Jim.

with deminimis gone for china and others countries soon to follow, (tho who really
knows at this point) you will have to pay stuff on delivery as a regular USA
resident if the package is subject to stuff

Good point with "deminimis" though very unlikely to affect the OP

since the goods the op mentioned are from china, its quite likely they will have
some additional costs on delivery (assuming the system is setup properly). my
carrier has sent multiple emails and stated multiple times that goods made in
china will have duties applied to them now even if low value and direct to consumer,
so id be surprised if the op doesn't have to pay duties on them
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In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Taxes, TheBrickGuys writes:
  In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Waxwing writes:
  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it arrives?

I have no idea.

I understand, but don't worry. The tariffs implemented on Beijing (now 125%)
are imposed directly onto the importer, not you. That said, the Chinese "importer"
will no doubt make price adjustments moving forward, to offset the additional
cost of selling within the US market.

A simpler way to conceptualize it: tariffs are foreign taxation, or external
source of revenue for the US

So I take it then that we, at least in the US, can order from pretty much any
country that now has tariffs set against them and we dont have to worry about
having to pay any of the tariffs after the order is placed?

Jim.

with deminimis gone for china and others countries soon to follow, (tho who really
knows at this point) you will have to pay stuff on delivery as a regular USA
resident if the package is subject to stuff

Good point with "deminimis" though very unlikely to affect the OP

since the goods the op mentioned are from china, its quite likely they will have
some additional costs on delivery (assuming the system is setup properly). my
carrier has sent multiple emails and stated multiple times that goods made in
china will have duties applied to them now even if low value and direct to consumer,
so id be surprised if the op doesn't have to pay duties on them

You being in Canada and the OP within the US. So not analogous, my friend
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In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Taxes, TheBrickGuys writes:
  In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Waxwing writes:
  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it arrives?

I have no idea.

I understand, but don't worry. The tariffs implemented on Beijing (now 125%)
are imposed directly onto the importer, not you. That said, the Chinese "importer"
will no doubt make price adjustments moving forward, to offset the additional
cost of selling within the US market.

A simpler way to conceptualize it: tariffs are foreign taxation, or external
source of revenue for the US

So I take it then that we, at least in the US, can order from pretty much any
country that now has tariffs set against them and we dont have to worry about
having to pay any of the tariffs after the order is placed?

Jim.

with deminimis gone for china and others countries soon to follow, (tho who really
knows at this point) you will have to pay stuff on delivery as a regular USA
resident if the package is subject to stuff

Good point with "deminimis" though very unlikely to affect the OP

since the goods the op mentioned are from china, its quite likely they will have
some additional costs on delivery (assuming the system is setup properly). my
carrier has sent multiple emails and stated multiple times that goods made in
china will have duties applied to them now even if low value and direct to consumer,
so id be surprised if the op doesn't have to pay duties on them

You being in Canada and the OP within the US. So not analogous, my friend

its from my shipping company talking about any packages sent to the USA, I should
have probably clarified that
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In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Taxes, TheBrickGuys writes:
  In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Waxwing writes:
  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it arrives?

I have no idea.

I understand, but don't worry. The tariffs implemented on Beijing (now 125%)
are imposed directly onto the importer, not you. That said, the Chinese "importer"
will no doubt make price adjustments moving forward, to offset the additional
cost of selling within the US market.

A simpler way to conceptualize it: tariffs are foreign taxation, or external
source of revenue for the US

So I take it then that we, at least in the US, can order from pretty much any
country that now has tariffs set against them and we dont have to worry about
having to pay any of the tariffs after the order is placed?

Jim.

with deminimis gone for china and others countries soon to follow, (tho who really
knows at this point) you will have to pay stuff on delivery as a regular USA
resident if the package is subject to stuff

Good point with "deminimis" though very unlikely to affect the OP

since the goods the op mentioned are from china, its quite likely they will have
some additional costs on delivery (assuming the system is setup properly). my
carrier has sent multiple emails and stated multiple times that goods made in
china will have duties applied to them now even if low value and direct to consumer,
so id be surprised if the op doesn't have to pay duties on them

You being in Canada and the OP within the US. So not analogous, my friend

its from my shipping company talking about any packages sent to the USA, I should
have probably clarified that

Sure, keep that narrative. The fear mongering is actually helpful to those not-so-easily
susceptible, in retaining more of their reasoning/perspective when dealing here

I'm not sure where you got fear mongering from, it was just a standard announcement
from shipping companies and new rules passed relating to duties being payable
either when the item is sent or on arrival if it was made in china. (taking
effect in like 3 weeks which is a pretty standard shipping time from china so
if they ordered it now, it would likely arrive after the may 2 deadline meaning
duties charged)

"We’ve just received final confirmation from both our partnered customs brokers
and CBP: Effective May 2, 2025, goods made in China will no longer qualify for
Section 321 de minimis entry, regardless of where they’re shipped from, even
if shipped from Canada.



This means any shipments containing China-origin products will be subject
to duties and must be cleared through formal entry starting May 2.




To help you prepare, we’ve already rolled out our DDU (Delivered Duty Unpaid)
solution, and our DDP (Delivered Duty Paid) service is launching in just a few
days. DDU allows duties to be paid by the recipient at delivery, while DDP enables
duties and taxes to be prepaid upfront at checkout for a smoother customer experience.



Also worth noting: the U.S. administration has published a new executive order
indicating the intention to eliminate de minimis entirely once the appropriate
systems are in place. This mirrors the language from last month’s announcement.
For now, Section 321 remains intact for non-China-origin goods, with no additional
changes or timelines announced.



You can read the latest executive order here:

🔗 White House Executive Order – April 2025



We’ll continue keeping a close eye on developments and will update you as soon
as DDP goes live. In the meantime, if you have any questions or need help preparing,
feel free to reach out.



Best,

The Stallion Team"
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In Taxes, Waxwing writes:
  In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Taxes, TheBrickGuys writes:
  In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Waxwing writes:
  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it arrives?

I have no idea.

I understand, but don't worry. The tariffs implemented on Beijing (now 125%)
are imposed directly onto the importer, not you. That said, the Chinese "importer"
will no doubt make price adjustments moving forward, to offset the additional
cost of selling within the US market.

A simpler way to conceptualize it: tariffs are foreign taxation, or external
source of revenue for the US

So I take it then that we, at least in the US, can order from pretty much any
country that now has tariffs set against them and we dont have to worry about
having to pay any of the tariffs after the order is placed?

Jim.

with deminimis gone for china and others countries soon to follow, (tho who really
knows at this point) you will have to pay stuff on delivery as a regular USA
resident if the package is subject to stuff

Good point with "deminimis" though very unlikely to affect the OP

since the goods the op mentioned are from china, its quite likely they will have
some additional costs on delivery (assuming the system is setup properly). my
carrier has sent multiple emails and stated multiple times that goods made in
china will have duties applied to them now even if low value and direct to consumer,
so id be surprised if the op doesn't have to pay duties on them

You being in Canada and the OP within the US. So not analogous, my friend

its from my shipping company talking about any packages sent to the USA, I should
have probably clarified that

Sure, keep that narrative. The fear mongering is actually helpful to those not-so-easily
susceptible, in retaining more of their reasoning/perspective when dealing here

I'm not sure where you got fear mongering from, it was just a standard announcement
from shipping companies and new rules passed relating to duties being payable
either when the item is sent or on arrival if it was made in china. (taking
effect in like 3 weeks which is a pretty standard shipping time from china so
if they ordered it now, it would likely arrive after the may 2 deadline meaning
duties charged)

"We’ve just received final confirmation from both our partnered customs brokers
and CBP: Effective May 2, 2025, goods made in China will no longer qualify for
Section 321 de minimis entry, regardless of where they’re shipped from, even
if shipped from Canada.



This means any shipments containing China-origin products will be subject
to duties and must be cleared through formal entry starting May 2.




To help you prepare, we’ve already rolled out our DDU (Delivered Duty Unpaid)
solution, and our DDP (Delivered Duty Paid) service is launching in just a few
days. DDU allows duties to be paid by the recipient at delivery, while DDP enables
duties and taxes to be prepaid upfront at checkout for a smoother customer experience.



Also worth noting: the U.S. administration has published a new executive order
indicating the intention to eliminate de minimis entirely once the appropriate
systems are in place. This mirrors the language from last month’s announcement.
For now, Section 321 remains intact for non-China-origin goods, with no additional
changes or timelines announced.



You can read the latest executive order here:

🔗 White House Executive Order – April 2025



We’ll continue keeping a close eye on developments and will update you as soon
as DDP goes live. In the meantime, if you have any questions or need help preparing,
feel free to reach out.



Best,

The Stallion Team"

This is actually helpful. Thank you. I've receieved a few orders since
"liberation day" with no penalties. Hopefully anything still in transit
gets here before May 2nd. I just won't order again till I fully understand
what's happening. Which is difficult when I very much doubt the administration
fully understands what they are doing.

Glad to help, but yeah like you say, at this point who knows what will happen.
They could completely throw this all out tomorrow or triple it next week. It’s
some very confusing times right now
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In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Taxes, TheBrickGuys writes:
  In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Waxwing writes:
  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it arrives?

I have no idea.

I understand, but don't worry. The tariffs implemented on Beijing (now 125%)
are imposed directly onto the importer, not you. That said, the Chinese "importer"
will no doubt make price adjustments moving forward, to offset the additional
cost of selling within the US market.

A simpler way to conceptualize it: tariffs are foreign taxation, or external
source of revenue for the US

So I take it then that we, at least in the US, can order from pretty much any
country that now has tariffs set against them and we dont have to worry about
having to pay any of the tariffs after the order is placed?

Jim.

with deminimis gone for china and others countries soon to follow, (tho who really
knows at this point) you will have to pay stuff on delivery as a regular USA
resident if the package is subject to stuff

Good point with "deminimis" though very unlikely to affect the OP

since the goods the op mentioned are from china, its quite likely they will have
some additional costs on delivery (assuming the system is setup properly). my
carrier has sent multiple emails and stated multiple times that goods made in
china will have duties applied to them now even if low value and direct to consumer,
so id be surprised if the op doesn't have to pay duties on them

You being in Canada and the OP within the US. So not analogous, my friend

its from my shipping company talking about any packages sent to the USA, I should
have probably clarified that

Sure, keep that narrative. The fear mongering is actually helpful to those not-so-easily
susceptible, in retaining more of their reasoning/perspective when dealing here

I'm not sure where you got fear mongering from, it was just a standard announcement
from shipping companies and new rules passed relating to duties being payable
either when the item is sent or on arrival if it was made in china. (taking
effect in like 3 weeks which is a pretty standard shipping time from china so
if they ordered it now, it would likely arrive after the may 2 deadline meaning
duties charged)

"We’ve just received final confirmation from both our partnered customs brokers
and CBP: Effective May 2, 2025, goods made in China will no longer qualify for
Section 321 de minimis entry, regardless of where they’re shipped from, even
if shipped from Canada.



This means any shipments containing China-origin products will be subject
to duties and must be cleared through formal entry starting May 2.




To help you prepare, we’ve already rolled out our DDU (Delivered Duty Unpaid)
solution, and our DDP (Delivered Duty Paid) service is launching in just a few
days. DDU allows duties to be paid by the recipient at delivery, while DDP enables
duties and taxes to be prepaid upfront at checkout for a smoother customer experience.



Also worth noting: the U.S. administration has published a new executive order
indicating the intention to eliminate de minimis entirely once the appropriate
systems are in place. This mirrors the language from last month’s announcement.
For now, Section 321 remains intact for non-China-origin goods, with no additional
changes or timelines announced.

Apologies, Jason. Completely missed your response this morning.

Yeah, the May 2nd date is unrelated to the now 145% imposed tariff question:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1512969

The collecting of tariffs without that threshold in place, is the question I
think the OP was/is seeking. How it will directly impact his buying of imported
goods from China?
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  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it arrives?

I have no idea.

I understand, but don't worry. The tariffs implemented on Beijing (now 125%)
are imposed directly onto the importer, not you. That said, the Chinese "importer"
will no doubt make price adjustments moving forward, to offset the additional
cost of selling within the US market.

A simpler way to conceptualize it: tariffs are foreign taxation, or external
source of revenue for the US

So I take it then that we, at least in the US, can order from pretty much any
country that now has tariffs set against them and we dont have to worry about
having to pay any of the tariffs after the order is placed?

Jim.

with deminimis gone for china and others countries soon to follow, (tho who really
knows at this point) you will have to pay stuff on delivery as a regular USA
resident if the package is subject to stuff

Good point with "deminimis" though very unlikely to affect the OP

since the goods the op mentioned are from china, its quite likely they will have
some additional costs on delivery (assuming the system is setup properly). my
carrier has sent multiple emails and stated multiple times that goods made in
china will have duties applied to them now even if low value and direct to consumer,
so id be surprised if the op doesn't have to pay duties on them

You being in Canada and the OP within the US. So not analogous, my friend

its from my shipping company talking about any packages sent to the USA, I should
have probably clarified that

Sure, keep that narrative. The fear mongering is actually helpful to those not-so-easily
susceptible, in retaining more of their reasoning/perspective when dealing here

I'm not sure where you got fear mongering from, it was just a standard announcement
from shipping companies and new rules passed relating to duties being payable
either when the item is sent or on arrival if it was made in china. (taking
effect in like 3 weeks which is a pretty standard shipping time from china so
if they ordered it now, it would likely arrive after the may 2 deadline meaning
duties charged)

"We’ve just received final confirmation from both our partnered customs brokers
and CBP: Effective May 2, 2025, goods made in China will no longer qualify for
Section 321 de minimis entry, regardless of where they’re shipped from, even
if shipped from Canada.



This means any shipments containing China-origin products will be subject
to duties and must be cleared through formal entry starting May 2.




To help you prepare, we’ve already rolled out our DDU (Delivered Duty Unpaid)
solution, and our DDP (Delivered Duty Paid) service is launching in just a few
days. DDU allows duties to be paid by the recipient at delivery, while DDP enables
duties and taxes to be prepaid upfront at checkout for a smoother customer experience.



Also worth noting: the U.S. administration has published a new executive order
indicating the intention to eliminate de minimis entirely once the appropriate
systems are in place. This mirrors the language from last month’s announcement.
For now, Section 321 remains intact for non-China-origin goods, with no additional
changes or timelines announced.

Apologies, Jason. Completely missed your response this morning.

Yeah, the May 2nd date is unrelated to the now 145% imposed tariff question:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1512969

The collecting of tariffs without that threshold in place, is the question I
think the OP was/is seeking. How it will directly impact his buying of imported
goods from China?

And to that end, I still believe if not soon worked-out with some pausing Any
permanent tariffs will be structured on the backend with China, as been talked
about. Can't see it functioning any other way, not without a massive overhaul
of CBP
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And we know VAT gets collected and remitted to the proper authorities everytime
bricklink collects it. We have seen so many double VATs. No one is going to get
this right electronically, I'd rather have it collected at the border
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  In Taxes, TheBrickGuys writes:
  In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Waxwing writes:
  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it arrives?

I have no idea.

I understand, but don't worry. The tariffs implemented on Beijing (now 125%)
are imposed directly onto the importer, not you. That said, the Chinese "importer"
will no doubt make price adjustments moving forward, to offset the additional
cost of selling within the US market.

A simpler way to conceptualize it: tariffs are foreign taxation, or external
source of revenue for the US

So I take it then that we, at least in the US, can order from pretty much any
country that now has tariffs set against them and we dont have to worry about
having to pay any of the tariffs after the order is placed?

Jim.

with deminimis gone for china and others countries soon to follow, (tho who really
knows at this point) you will have to pay stuff on delivery as a regular USA
resident if the package is subject to stuff

Good point with "deminimis" though very unlikely to affect the OP

since the goods the op mentioned are from china, its quite likely they will have
some additional costs on delivery (assuming the system is setup properly). my
carrier has sent multiple emails and stated multiple times that goods made in
china will have duties applied to them now even if low value and direct to consumer,
so id be surprised if the op doesn't have to pay duties on them

You being in Canada and the OP within the US. So not analogous, my friend

its from my shipping company talking about any packages sent to the USA, I should
have probably clarified that

Sure, keep that narrative. The fear mongering is actually helpful to those not-so-easily
susceptible, in retaining more of their reasoning/perspective when dealing here

I'm not sure where you got fear mongering from, it was just a standard announcement
from shipping companies and new rules passed relating to duties being payable
either when the item is sent or on arrival if it was made in china. (taking
effect in like 3 weeks which is a pretty standard shipping time from china so
if they ordered it now, it would likely arrive after the may 2 deadline meaning
duties charged)

"We’ve just received final confirmation from both our partnered customs brokers
and CBP: Effective May 2, 2025, goods made in China will no longer qualify for
Section 321 de minimis entry, regardless of where they’re shipped from, even
if shipped from Canada.



This means any shipments containing China-origin products will be subject
to duties and must be cleared through formal entry starting May 2.




To help you prepare, we’ve already rolled out our DDU (Delivered Duty Unpaid)
solution, and our DDP (Delivered Duty Paid) service is launching in just a few
days. DDU allows duties to be paid by the recipient at delivery, while DDP enables
duties and taxes to be prepaid upfront at checkout for a smoother customer experience.



Also worth noting: the U.S. administration has published a new executive order
indicating the intention to eliminate de minimis entirely once the appropriate
systems are in place. This mirrors the language from last month’s announcement.
For now, Section 321 remains intact for non-China-origin goods, with no additional
changes or timelines announced.

Apologies, Jason. Completely missed your response this morning.

Yeah, the May 2nd date is unrelated to the now 145% imposed tariff question:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1512969

The collecting of tariffs without that threshold in place, is the question I
think the OP was/is seeking. How it will directly impact his buying of imported
goods from China?

And to that end, I still believe if not soon worked-out with some pausing Any
permanent tariffs will be structured on the backend with China, as been talked
about. Can't see it functioning any other way, not without a massive overhaul
of CBP

Seems the CBP is doing some massive restructuring as we’ve gotten multiple emails
talking about how they are in the process of setting up systems so they can permanently
get rid of de minimis. Combined with the options of DDU and DDP options means
the duties could be charged during checkout or during delivery
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In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, popsicle writes:
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  In Taxes, Waxwing writes:
  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it arrives?

I have no idea.

I understand, but don't worry. The tariffs implemented on Beijing (now 125%)
are imposed directly onto the importer, not you. That said, the Chinese "importer"
will no doubt make price adjustments moving forward, to offset the additional
cost of selling within the US market.

A simpler way to conceptualize it: tariffs are foreign taxation, or external
source of revenue for the US

So I take it then that we, at least in the US, can order from pretty much any
country that now has tariffs set against them and we dont have to worry about
having to pay any of the tariffs after the order is placed?

Jim.

with deminimis gone for china and others countries soon to follow, (tho who really
knows at this point) you will have to pay stuff on delivery as a regular USA
resident if the package is subject to stuff

Good point with "deminimis" though very unlikely to affect the OP

since the goods the op mentioned are from china, its quite likely they will have
some additional costs on delivery (assuming the system is setup properly). my
carrier has sent multiple emails and stated multiple times that goods made in
china will have duties applied to them now even if low value and direct to consumer,
so id be surprised if the op doesn't have to pay duties on them

You being in Canada and the OP within the US. So not analogous, my friend

its from my shipping company talking about any packages sent to the USA, I should
have probably clarified that

Sure, keep that narrative. The fear mongering is actually helpful to those not-so-easily
susceptible, in retaining more of their reasoning/perspective when dealing here

I'm not sure where you got fear mongering from, it was just a standard announcement
from shipping companies and new rules passed relating to duties being payable
either when the item is sent or on arrival if it was made in china. (taking
effect in like 3 weeks which is a pretty standard shipping time from china so
if they ordered it now, it would likely arrive after the may 2 deadline meaning
duties charged)

"We’ve just received final confirmation from both our partnered customs brokers
and CBP: Effective May 2, 2025, goods made in China will no longer qualify for
Section 321 de minimis entry, regardless of where they’re shipped from, even
if shipped from Canada.



This means any shipments containing China-origin products will be subject
to duties and must be cleared through formal entry starting May 2.




To help you prepare, we’ve already rolled out our DDU (Delivered Duty Unpaid)
solution, and our DDP (Delivered Duty Paid) service is launching in just a few
days. DDU allows duties to be paid by the recipient at delivery, while DDP enables
duties and taxes to be prepaid upfront at checkout for a smoother customer experience.



Also worth noting: the U.S. administration has published a new executive order
indicating the intention to eliminate de minimis entirely once the appropriate
systems are in place. This mirrors the language from last month’s announcement.
For now, Section 321 remains intact for non-China-origin goods, with no additional
changes or timelines announced.

Apologies, Jason. Completely missed your response this morning.

Yeah, the May 2nd date is unrelated to the now 145% imposed tariff question:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1512969

The collecting of tariffs without that threshold in place, is the question I
think the OP was/is seeking. How it will directly impact his buying of imported
goods from China?

And to that end, I still believe if not soon worked-out with some pausing Any
permanent tariffs will be structured on the backend with China, as been talked
about. Can't see it functioning any other way, not without a massive overhaul
of CBP

Seems the CBP is doing some massive restructuring as we’ve gotten multiple emails
talking about how they are in the process of setting up systems so they can permanently
get rid of de minimis. Combined with the options of DDU and DDP options means
the duties could be charged during checkout or during delivery

With that staggering amount of inbound traffic and level of enforcement it would
require? Yeah, just can't feature it. The expansion needed of that and other
agencies, would be of such scale as to be prohibitive. Plus, you might’ve heard
there are massive cutbacks and streamlining of the Federal Government taking
place down here Which is really just getting ramped up…
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  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it arrives?

I have no idea.

I understand, but don't worry. The tariffs implemented on Beijing (now 125%)
are imposed directly onto the importer, not you. That said, the Chinese "importer"
will no doubt make price adjustments moving forward, to offset the additional
cost of selling within the US market.

A simpler way to conceptualize it: tariffs are foreign taxation, or external
source of revenue for the US

So I take it then that we, at least in the US, can order from pretty much any
country that now has tariffs set against them and we dont have to worry about
having to pay any of the tariffs after the order is placed?

Jim.

with deminimis gone for china and others countries soon to follow, (tho who really
knows at this point) you will have to pay stuff on delivery as a regular USA
resident if the package is subject to stuff

Good point with "deminimis" though very unlikely to affect the OP

since the goods the op mentioned are from china, its quite likely they will have
some additional costs on delivery (assuming the system is setup properly). my
carrier has sent multiple emails and stated multiple times that goods made in
china will have duties applied to them now even if low value and direct to consumer,
so id be surprised if the op doesn't have to pay duties on them

You being in Canada and the OP within the US. So not analogous, my friend

its from my shipping company talking about any packages sent to the USA, I should
have probably clarified that

Sure, keep that narrative. The fear mongering is actually helpful to those not-so-easily
susceptible, in retaining more of their reasoning/perspective when dealing here

I'm not sure where you got fear mongering from, it was just a standard announcement
from shipping companies and new rules passed relating to duties being payable
either when the item is sent or on arrival if it was made in china. (taking
effect in like 3 weeks which is a pretty standard shipping time from china so
if they ordered it now, it would likely arrive after the may 2 deadline meaning
duties charged)

"We’ve just received final confirmation from both our partnered customs brokers
and CBP: Effective May 2, 2025, goods made in China will no longer qualify for
Section 321 de minimis entry, regardless of where they’re shipped from, even
if shipped from Canada.



This means any shipments containing China-origin products will be subject
to duties and must be cleared through formal entry starting May 2.




To help you prepare, we’ve already rolled out our DDU (Delivered Duty Unpaid)
solution, and our DDP (Delivered Duty Paid) service is launching in just a few
days. DDU allows duties to be paid by the recipient at delivery, while DDP enables
duties and taxes to be prepaid upfront at checkout for a smoother customer experience.



Also worth noting: the U.S. administration has published a new executive order
indicating the intention to eliminate de minimis entirely once the appropriate
systems are in place. This mirrors the language from last month’s announcement.
For now, Section 321 remains intact for non-China-origin goods, with no additional
changes or timelines announced.

Apologies, Jason. Completely missed your response this morning.

Yeah, the May 2nd date is unrelated to the now 145% imposed tariff question:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1512969

The collecting of tariffs without that threshold in place, is the question I
think the OP was/is seeking. How it will directly impact his buying of imported
goods from China?

And to that end, I still believe if not soon worked-out with some pausing Any
permanent tariffs will be structured on the backend with China, as been talked
about. Can't see it functioning any other way, not without a massive overhaul
of CBP

Seems the CBP is doing some massive restructuring as we’ve gotten multiple emails
talking about how they are in the process of setting up systems so they can permanently
get rid of de minimis. Combined with the options of DDU and DDP options means
the duties could be charged during checkout or during delivery

With that staggering amount of inbound traffic and level of enforcement it would
require? Yeah, just can't feature it. The expansion needed of that and other
agencies, would be of such scale as to be prohibitive. Plus, you might’ve heard
there are massive cutbacks and streamlining of the Federal Government taking
place down here Which is really just getting ramped up…

Indeed, they have been working on setting it up for months and it seems for just
china it won’t take effect until may 2 and they aren’t doing other countries
as they don’t have it sorted out yet. In regards to cutback in government spending,
I think they might expand it here as it’ll be a massive cash cow for them, both
the tariffs and service fees will probably bring in billions
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  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it arrives?

I have no idea.

I understand, but don't worry. The tariffs implemented on Beijing (now 125%)
are imposed directly onto the importer, not you. That said, the Chinese "importer"
will no doubt make price adjustments moving forward, to offset the additional
cost of selling within the US market.

A simpler way to conceptualize it: tariffs are foreign taxation, or external
source of revenue for the US

So I take it then that we, at least in the US, can order from pretty much any
country that now has tariffs set against them and we dont have to worry about
having to pay any of the tariffs after the order is placed?

Jim.

with deminimis gone for china and others countries soon to follow, (tho who really
knows at this point) you will have to pay stuff on delivery as a regular USA
resident if the package is subject to stuff

Good point with "deminimis" though very unlikely to affect the OP

since the goods the op mentioned are from china, its quite likely they will have
some additional costs on delivery (assuming the system is setup properly). my
carrier has sent multiple emails and stated multiple times that goods made in
china will have duties applied to them now even if low value and direct to consumer,
so id be surprised if the op doesn't have to pay duties on them

You being in Canada and the OP within the US. So not analogous, my friend

its from my shipping company talking about any packages sent to the USA, I should
have probably clarified that

Sure, keep that narrative. The fear mongering is actually helpful to those not-so-easily
susceptible, in retaining more of their reasoning/perspective when dealing here

I'm not sure where you got fear mongering from, it was just a standard announcement
from shipping companies and new rules passed relating to duties being payable
either when the item is sent or on arrival if it was made in china. (taking
effect in like 3 weeks which is a pretty standard shipping time from china so
if they ordered it now, it would likely arrive after the may 2 deadline meaning
duties charged)

"We’ve just received final confirmation from both our partnered customs brokers
and CBP: Effective May 2, 2025, goods made in China will no longer qualify for
Section 321 de minimis entry, regardless of where they’re shipped from, even
if shipped from Canada.



This means any shipments containing China-origin products will be subject
to duties and must be cleared through formal entry starting May 2.




To help you prepare, we’ve already rolled out our DDU (Delivered Duty Unpaid)
solution, and our DDP (Delivered Duty Paid) service is launching in just a few
days. DDU allows duties to be paid by the recipient at delivery, while DDP enables
duties and taxes to be prepaid upfront at checkout for a smoother customer experience.



Also worth noting: the U.S. administration has published a new executive order
indicating the intention to eliminate de minimis entirely once the appropriate
systems are in place. This mirrors the language from last month’s announcement.
For now, Section 321 remains intact for non-China-origin goods, with no additional
changes or timelines announced.

Apologies, Jason. Completely missed your response this morning.

Yeah, the May 2nd date is unrelated to the now 145% imposed tariff question:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1512969

The collecting of tariffs without that threshold in place, is the question I
think the OP was/is seeking. How it will directly impact his buying of imported
goods from China?

And to that end, I still believe if not soon worked-out with some pausing Any
permanent tariffs will be structured on the backend with China, as been talked
about. Can't see it functioning any other way, not without a massive overhaul
of CBP

Seems the CBP is doing some massive restructuring as we’ve gotten multiple emails
talking about how they are in the process of setting up systems so they can permanently
get rid of de minimis. Combined with the options of DDU and DDP options means
the duties could be charged during checkout or during delivery

With that staggering amount of inbound traffic and level of enforcement it would
require? Yeah, just can't feature it. The expansion needed of that and other
agencies, would be of such scale as to be prohibitive. Plus, you might’ve heard
there are massive cutbacks and streamlining of the Federal Government taking
place down here Which is really just getting ramped up…

Indeed, they have been working on setting it up for months and it seems for just
china it won’t take effect until may 2 and they aren’t doing other countries
as they don’t have it sorted out yet. In regards to cutback in government spending,
I think they might expand it here as it’ll be a massive cash cow for them, both
the tariffs and service fees will probably bring in billions

Yeah, given the short few months of this admin implementations, it is not
gonna expand Government of any agency at any level
. That much is clear as
glass. It's simply willful ignorance in continuing this narrative, and as
I expessed "fear mongering"

Today, as I post this in place of the our post cancelled (by the darlings that
have trouble with hard truths), the US has withdrawn tariffs on certain goods
from China.

So to repeat what I said: in the unlikelihood all is not soon worked out,
any residual or permanent tariffs, will be collected on the backend with China.
Maybe slow your convulsing, those that have been relying on the cheap LEGO knock-offs
from China, you'll still be able to continue without all that much interruption.
Sad to say
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  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it arrives?

I have no idea.

I understand, but don't worry. The tariffs implemented on Beijing (now 125%)
are imposed directly onto the importer, not you. That said, the Chinese "importer"
will no doubt make price adjustments moving forward, to offset the additional
cost of selling within the US market.

A simpler way to conceptualize it: tariffs are foreign taxation, or external
source of revenue for the US

So I take it then that we, at least in the US, can order from pretty much any
country that now has tariffs set against them and we dont have to worry about
having to pay any of the tariffs after the order is placed?

Jim.

with deminimis gone for china and others countries soon to follow, (tho who really
knows at this point) you will have to pay stuff on delivery as a regular USA
resident if the package is subject to stuff

Good point with "deminimis" though very unlikely to affect the OP

since the goods the op mentioned are from china, its quite likely they will have
some additional costs on delivery (assuming the system is setup properly). my
carrier has sent multiple emails and stated multiple times that goods made in
china will have duties applied to them now even if low value and direct to consumer,
so id be surprised if the op doesn't have to pay duties on them

You being in Canada and the OP within the US. So not analogous, my friend

its from my shipping company talking about any packages sent to the USA, I should
have probably clarified that

Sure, keep that narrative. The fear mongering is actually helpful to those not-so-easily
susceptible, in retaining more of their reasoning/perspective when dealing here

I'm not sure where you got fear mongering from, it was just a standard announcement
from shipping companies and new rules passed relating to duties being payable
either when the item is sent or on arrival if it was made in china. (taking
effect in like 3 weeks which is a pretty standard shipping time from china so
if they ordered it now, it would likely arrive after the may 2 deadline meaning
duties charged)

"We’ve just received final confirmation from both our partnered customs brokers
and CBP: Effective May 2, 2025, goods made in China will no longer qualify for
Section 321 de minimis entry, regardless of where they’re shipped from, even
if shipped from Canada.



This means any shipments containing China-origin products will be subject
to duties and must be cleared through formal entry starting May 2.




To help you prepare, we’ve already rolled out our DDU (Delivered Duty Unpaid)
solution, and our DDP (Delivered Duty Paid) service is launching in just a few
days. DDU allows duties to be paid by the recipient at delivery, while DDP enables
duties and taxes to be prepaid upfront at checkout for a smoother customer experience.



Also worth noting: the U.S. administration has published a new executive order
indicating the intention to eliminate de minimis entirely once the appropriate
systems are in place. This mirrors the language from last month’s announcement.
For now, Section 321 remains intact for non-China-origin goods, with no additional
changes or timelines announced.

Apologies, Jason. Completely missed your response this morning.

Yeah, the May 2nd date is unrelated to the now 145% imposed tariff question:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1512969

The collecting of tariffs without that threshold in place, is the question I
think the OP was/is seeking. How it will directly impact his buying of imported
goods from China?

And to that end, I still believe if not soon worked-out with some pausing Any
permanent tariffs will be structured on the backend with China, as been talked
about. Can't see it functioning any other way, not without a massive overhaul
of CBP

Seems the CBP is doing some massive restructuring as we’ve gotten multiple emails
talking about how they are in the process of setting up systems so they can permanently
get rid of de minimis. Combined with the options of DDU and DDP options means
the duties could be charged during checkout or during delivery

With that staggering amount of inbound traffic and level of enforcement it would
require? Yeah, just can't feature it. The expansion needed of that and other
agencies, would be of such scale as to be prohibitive. Plus, you might’ve heard
there are massive cutbacks and streamlining of the Federal Government taking
place down here Which is really just getting ramped up…

Indeed, they have been working on setting it up for months and it seems for just
china it won’t take effect until may 2 and they aren’t doing other countries
as they don’t have it sorted out yet. In regards to cutback in government spending,
I think they might expand it here as it’ll be a massive cash cow for them, both
the tariffs and service fees will probably bring in billions

In the effort to better inform members here, I've posted considered, albeit
directly contradictory replies, only to have them cancelled by complaint. Leaving
in place only one side of the all important topic, and if you're good with
this practice, fare thee well. But if you are not, pm me, I'll continue to
help others to understand their concern as best I can...
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  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it arrives?

I have no idea.

I understand, but don't worry. The tariffs implemented on Beijing (now 125%)
are imposed directly onto the importer, not you. That said, the Chinese "importer"
will no doubt make price adjustments moving forward, to offset the additional
cost of selling within the US market.

A simpler way to conceptualize it: tariffs are foreign taxation, or external
source of revenue for the US

So I take it then that we, at least in the US, can order from pretty much any
country that now has tariffs set against them and we dont have to worry about
having to pay any of the tariffs after the order is placed?

Jim.

with deminimis gone for china and others countries soon to follow, (tho who really
knows at this point) you will have to pay stuff on delivery as a regular USA
resident if the package is subject to stuff

Good point with "deminimis" though very unlikely to affect the OP

since the goods the op mentioned are from china, its quite likely they will have
some additional costs on delivery (assuming the system is setup properly). my
carrier has sent multiple emails and stated multiple times that goods made in
china will have duties applied to them now even if low value and direct to consumer,
so id be surprised if the op doesn't have to pay duties on them

You being in Canada and the OP within the US. So not analogous, my friend

its from my shipping company talking about any packages sent to the USA, I should
have probably clarified that

Sure, keep that narrative. The fear mongering is actually helpful to those not-so-easily
susceptible, in retaining more of their reasoning/perspective when dealing here

I'm not sure where you got fear mongering from, it was just a standard announcement
from shipping companies and new rules passed relating to duties being payable
either when the item is sent or on arrival if it was made in china. (taking
effect in like 3 weeks which is a pretty standard shipping time from china so
if they ordered it now, it would likely arrive after the may 2 deadline meaning
duties charged)

"We’ve just received final confirmation from both our partnered customs brokers
and CBP: Effective May 2, 2025, goods made in China will no longer qualify for
Section 321 de minimis entry, regardless of where they’re shipped from, even
if shipped from Canada.



This means any shipments containing China-origin products will be subject
to duties and must be cleared through formal entry starting May 2.




To help you prepare, we’ve already rolled out our DDU (Delivered Duty Unpaid)
solution, and our DDP (Delivered Duty Paid) service is launching in just a few
days. DDU allows duties to be paid by the recipient at delivery, while DDP enables
duties and taxes to be prepaid upfront at checkout for a smoother customer experience.



Also worth noting: the U.S. administration has published a new executive order
indicating the intention to eliminate de minimis entirely once the appropriate
systems are in place. This mirrors the language from last month’s announcement.
For now, Section 321 remains intact for non-China-origin goods, with no additional
changes or timelines announced.

Apologies, Jason. Completely missed your response this morning.

Yeah, the May 2nd date is unrelated to the now 145% imposed tariff question:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1512969

The collecting of tariffs without that threshold in place, is the question I
think the OP was/is seeking. How it will directly impact his buying of imported
goods from China?

It will likely be be either a $0 minimum or roughly a $20 minimum. $0 minimum
isn’t common but with all the new rules and such is possible, meanwhile the $20
minimum is more standard for countries before any duties and such are charged.
But based off the message when it says

“This means any shipments containing China-origin products will be subject to
duties and must be cleared through formal entry”

and in traditional government fashion the wording is a bit vague so we don’t
know if subject to would mean everything or that it’s just if they wanted to
it could apply to any $ threshold or what
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It will likely be be either a $0 minimum or roughly a $20 minimum. $0 minimum
isn’t common but with all the new rules and such is possible, meanwhile the $20
minimum is more standard for countries before any duties and such are charged. […]

That miminum is the famous “de minimis.”

It’s currently at $800, and you’re just suggesting that they put it at $20.
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It will likely be be either a $0 minimum or roughly a $20 minimum. $0 minimum
isn’t common but with all the new rules and such is possible, meanwhile the $20
minimum is more standard for countries before any duties and such are charged. […]

That miminum is the famous “de minimis.”

It’s currently at $800, and you’re just suggesting that they put it at $20.

Any plan is easier to implement at all or nothing. There will be no cutoff, it's
easier to say every item gets collection
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It will likely be be either a $0 minimum or roughly a $20 minimum. $0 minimum
isn’t common but with all the new rules and such is possible, meanwhile the $20
minimum is more standard for countries before any duties and such are charged. […]

That miminum is the famous “de minimis.”

It’s currently at $800, and you’re just suggesting that they put it at $20.

Indeed, but I was thinking they would probably apply it to both as I don’t know
if they have the manpower to charge it on all of them even if it’s a tariff so
they may follow the standard import thing many countries have of a $20 or so
threshold before they actually do it (even if unofficially)
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  Sure, keep that narrative. The fear mongering is actually helpful to those not-so-easily
susceptible, in retaining more of their reasoning/perspective when dealing here

Why are you doing this?
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  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it arrives?

I have no idea.

I understand, but don't worry. The tariffs implemented on Beijing (now 125%)
are imposed directly onto the importer, not you. That said, the Chinese "importer"
will no doubt make price adjustments moving forward, to offset the additional
cost of selling within the US market.

A simpler way to conceptualize it: tariffs are foreign taxation, or external
source of revenue for the US

So I take it then that we, at least in the US, can order from pretty much any
country that now has tariffs set against them and we dont have to worry about
having to pay any of the tariffs after the order is placed?

Jim.

with deminimis gone for china and others countries soon to follow, (tho who really
knows at this point) you will have to pay stuff on delivery as a regular USA
resident if the package is subject to stuff

Good point with "deminimis" though very unlikely to affect the OP

As that effort has been halted in court, should've added.
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  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it arrives?

I have no idea.

I understand, but don't worry. The tariffs implemented on Beijing (now 125%)
are imposed directly onto the importer, not you. That said, the Chinese "importer"
will no doubt make price adjustments moving forward, to offset the additional
cost of selling within the US market.

A simpler way to conceptualize it: tariffs are foreign taxation, or external
source of revenue for the US

So I take it then that we, at least in the US, can order from pretty much any
country that now has tariffs set against them and we dont have to worry about
having to pay any of the tariffs after the order is placed?

Jim.

with deminimis gone for china and others countries soon to follow, (tho who really
knows at this point) you will have to pay stuff on delivery as a regular USA
resident if the package is subject to stuff

Good point with "deminimis" though very unlikely to affect the OP

As that effort has been halted in court, should've added.

I don't see where de minimis has been halted in court.
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  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it arrives?

I have no idea.

I understand, but don't worry. The tariffs implemented on Beijing (now 125%)
are imposed directly onto the importer, not you. That said, the Chinese "importer"
will no doubt make price adjustments moving forward, to offset the additional
cost of selling within the US market.

A simpler way to conceptualize it: tariffs are foreign taxation, or external
source of revenue for the US

If you are joking and I can't tell, it wouldn't be the first time.

Waxwing is the importer. He has to pay the tariff. When it hits customs, the
owner is the one who pays the tariff and the owner of something that hits customs
is pretty much always INSIDE the USA.
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  Yes. This is how I understood tariffs to work. I just don't know how they
are going to collect the tariff from me. Hold the package at the po? Send me
a bill? And it would not shock me at all if.....

I'm not a moderator, but I'll just friendly reminder to make sure you
aren't injecting politics into the forum.

I don't know how the tariffs will work with de minimis removed, but my best
guess would be what you said. You'll get a note to come to the Post Office
and pay the tariff to pick up your package. It will require a lot more work
in customs and USPS.
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In Taxes, axaday writes:
  I don't know how the tariffs will work with de minimis removed, but my best
guess would be what you said. You'll get a note to come to the Post Office
and pay the tariff to pick up your package. It will require a lot more work
in customs and USPS.

I am pretty sure even customs is still trying to figure things out. There is
a huge gap between announcing tariffs and actually having the infra in place
to enforce this. "Shooting from the hip" is making things very difficult
for all parties involved, not to mention the constant flip-flopping.

For now, the main issue for customs appears to be trying to enforce tariffing
China-made products. For sellers, it helps if they clearly label their shipments
as originating from somewhere that isn't China. Yes, we all know that some
LEGO is produced in China, but in my simple mind, I am shipping LEGO products
which is produced by a Denmark-based company. So I slap a little sticker on my
shipments stating this is "plastic construction toys" with a proper HS
code and country-of-origin Denmark, along with the same statements on the electronic
shipping label. (It may also help that our shop pretty much only deals in used
parts.)

Enforcing tariffs at the border has to be a manual process. This sticker will
likely push it to a pile "not something we should worry about for now".

Just my CAD 0.02.

Niek.
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  For now, the main issue for customs appears to be trying to enforce tariffing
China-made products. For sellers, it helps if they clearly label their shipments
as originating from somewhere that isn't China. Yes, we all know that some
LEGO is produced in China, but in my simple mind, I am shipping LEGO products
which is produced by a Denmark-based company. So I slap a little sticker on my
shipments stating this is "plastic construction toys" with a proper HS
code and country-of-origin Denmark, along with the same statements on the electronic
shipping label. (It may also help that our shop pretty much only deals in used
parts.)

While I am sure rules intend to keep a tariff from being dodged by shipping to
another country first, I do wonder how they would shake out goods that were originally
manufactured in China, but have been in Canada for years and are used and being
sold second-hand. I guess this sort of thing was really supposed to be covered
by de minimis, but I would have thought that intent of the rules (!!!) would
be that the items you are selling have already had the tariff paid or waived
depending on the policy at the time they were new.

I think the only LEGO items sold in North America with a Chinese origin would
be CMF. The rest are coming from Mexico and I don't think there is currently
a tariff for that.
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In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Waxwing writes:
  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it arrives?

I have no idea.

I understand, but don't worry. The tariffs implemented on Beijing (now 125%)
are imposed directly onto the importer, not you. That said, the Chinese "importer"
will no doubt make price adjustments moving forward, to offset the additional
cost of selling within the US market.

A simpler way to conceptualize it: tariffs are foreign taxation, or external
source of revenue for the US

Please, feel free to PM me, if you need further clarification on this matter.
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In Taxes, popsicle writes:
  In Taxes, Waxwing writes:
  Hi. I order a lot of minifigs from China to USA. Anyone know how the tariffs
are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it arrives?

I have no idea.

I understand, but don't worry. The tariffs implemented on Beijing (now 125%)
are imposed directly onto the importer, not you. That said, the Chinese "importer"
will no doubt make price adjustments moving forward, to offset the additional
cost of selling within the US market.

A simpler way to conceptualize it: tariffs are foreign taxation, or external
source of revenue for the US

It might be that systems are changed so that tariffs are charged at the time
of purchase and paid to the relevant government like on BL. Here in the UK we
used to be allowed to receive low value packages tax free but pay on higher value
goods but you could risk it and hope no tax was collected. Now, most sites will
collect VAT on every purchase, whether the foreign seller is on BL, ebay, temu
or aliexpress. I imagine the same will eventually happen to you, with the American
importer paying the tariff on the directly imported goods.
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My customer said: Tariff is collected by US customs based on stated value

He already pay huge tariff these few days.


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are going to work? Do I pay 104% on top of what I paid for the order when it
arrives? I have no idea.