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 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Dec 30, 2024 17:21
 Subject: So long, and thanks for all the bricks !
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cosmicray (3573)

Location:  USA, Florida
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Store Closed Store: Cosmic Toys
I have received, and filled, the last order. My store is now closed.

A while back I alluded to the fact that buyers never look at the store terms.
To that end, earlier in the year, I made a small change to my store's terms,
and inserted an Easter Egg. No one ever read it, nor followed the recommended
course of action. I thought at least one person would have found it, but no one
did. My hunch was confirmed.

NR
 
 Author: macebobo View Messages Posted By macebobo
 Posted: Dec 30, 2024 17:41
 Subject: Re: So long, and thanks for all the bricks !
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macebobo (3177)

Location:  USA, Oregon
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Store: MacsBricks
In Terms and Policies, cosmicray writes:
  I have received, and filled, the last order. My store is now closed.

Congratulations on a successful store on Bricklink for so long. It is impressive.

  A while back I alluded to the fact that buyers never look at the store terms.

Never is a broad brush.

I have had the terms shown below since February 1st, 2024, and received multiple
comments on it. I did not think of offering a prize.

  To that end, earlier in the year, I made a small change to my store's terms, and inserted an Easter Egg. No one ever read it, nor followed the recommended course of action. I thought at least one person would have found it, but no one did. My hunch was confirmed.

NR

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-- John

 
Set No: 562001  Name: Cake foil pack
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562001-1 (Inv) Cake foil pack
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 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Dec 30, 2024 18:16
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1001bricks (55639)

Location:  France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
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Store: 1001bricks
In Terms and Policies, cosmicray writes:
  I have received, and filled, the last order. My store is now closed.

A while back I alluded to the fact that buyers never look at the store terms.
To that end, earlier in the year, I made a small change to my store's terms,
and inserted an Easter Egg. No one ever read it, nor followed the recommended
course of action. I thought at least one person would have found it, but no one
did. My hunch was confirmed.

Yes - it's well known on BrickLink! Someone already tested this (Troy - Mnemeth
-, iirc?) while saying "I make you a $10 rebate/refund if you read this in
my Terms ..."

Another fun fact; along those years hundreds of buyers complained in our shop
about missing parts, hundreds!

Statistically, that means hundreds should have complained having received too
much, because there's no reason we could always ship less than the requested
qty.

But as you can guess... almost no one did; maybe 1 or 2 within 18 years (and
for a BIG mistake from us)
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Dec 30, 2024 18:53
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SylvainLS (52)

Location:  France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
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In Terms and Policies, 1001bricks writes:
  […]
Yes - it's well known on BrickLink! Someone already tested this (Troy - Mnemeth
-, iirc?) while saying "I make you a $10 rebate/refund if you read this in
my Terms ..."

None of the stores I bought from did anything like that 😭


  Another fun fact; along those years hundreds of buyers complained in our shop
about missing parts, hundreds!

Statistically, that means hundreds should have complained having received too
much, because there's no reason we could always ship less than the requested
qty.

But as you can guess... almost no one did; maybe 1 or 2 within 18 years (and
for a BIG mistake from us)

Well, I never “complained” about too many parts… but I generally tell the seller,
especially as they often miscounted the other way too, for other lots.  So I
complain for some and inform for the others
And, about the “too manies,” they generally answer “it’s okay” or even ”it on
purpose.”  So there’s not much incentive to do it.


Also, contrarily to what you say, it’s not a self-evident, and even less proven,
that a seller would make as many positive errors (parts too many) as negative
ones (parts missing).
There’s other factors at play.  It’s not random.
There’s some orders that will very rarely have extra parts but may be missing
entire lots, for instance orders with many small lots.
And there’s some orders that will be the opposite, for instance orders with few
but big lots of inexpensive parts, and when the sellers use scales and are “generous”
to compensate any error and avoid dying of boreness when recounting.
If there were as many orders of each type, you could be right… but I don’t think
so.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Dec 30, 2024 19:15
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1001bricks (55639)

Location:  France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
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In Terms and Policies, SylvainLS writes:
  Also, contrarily to what you say, it’s not a self-evident, and even less proven,
that a seller would make as many positive errors (parts too many) as negative
ones (parts missing).

I knew you were to argue on this.

Your theory could be OK for the eventual missing lot when there are many lots
(it's very rare almost never here because you've to validate the picking
and it's timed, so you can't pick too fast - or too long).

But otherwise when counting manually (visually) there's probably a quite
equal chance to ship instead of 12: 13 or 11.

And yes, on big quantities we may even give a bit more than less.

So, statistically there should have been hundreds of complains

But no, it's different.

Right now, we apparently missed 2 parts on 900, all hand counted - and just received
(minutes ago) an NSS Alert for this

People don't realize a list is (said) exact, but picking is still an human
activity. Personnaly I wouldn't complain for 5 cents or 0.01% of an human
job.

Sometimes you just wish to give up.

Stay as a Buyer Sylvain, never sell - trust me.
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Dec 30, 2024 19:17
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Nubs_Select (4786)

Location:  Canada, Ontario
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Right now, we apparently missed 2 parts on 900, all hand counted - and just received
(minutes ago) an NSS Alert for this


 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Dec 30, 2024 20:01
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SylvainLS (52)

Location:  France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
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In Terms and Policies, 1001bricks writes:
  […]
(it's very rare almost never here because you've to validate the picking
and it's timed, so you can't pick too fast - or too long).

Otherwise, it’s the
 
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88704 Minifigure, Weapon Whip Bent Flexible
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon
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  […]
So, statistically there should have been hundreds of complains

Hundreds of “informings!”  Again, nothing to complain about here


  But no, it's different.

Right now, we apparently missed 2 parts on 900, all hand counted - and just received
(minutes ago) an NSS Alert for this

New buyer?
I think it’s because it’s not very clear what a buyer should do in case of problems.
But, anyway, people don’t read terms or help or any text really.  They just skim
over all that, looking for keywords… at best.


  People don't realize a list is (said) exact, but picking is still an human
activity. Personnaly I wouldn't complain for 5 cents or 0.01% of an human
job.

2/900 = 0.22% (joking )


  Sometimes you just wish to give up.

Stay as a Buyer Sylvain, never sell - trust me.

I don’t intend to!  (either sell or trust you )
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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Location:  France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
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In Terms and Policies, SylvainLS writes:
  In Terms and Policies, 1001bricks writes:

  
  Right now, we apparently missed 2 parts on 900, all hand counted - and just received
(minutes ago) an NSS Alert for this

New buyer?

Yes, it's a 0 FB, of course it must be this.
I hope, otherwise he'll be a -1 soon
Joking also.
But yes, no. Say half joking? I'm upset right now. It'll be over tomorrow.


  
  People don't realize a list is (said) exact, but picking is still an human
activity. Personnaly I wouldn't complain for 5 cents or 0.01% of an human
job.

2/900 = 0.22%

Don't worry Einstein, you're already stop listed in my shop!
 Author: stereog View Messages Posted By stereog
 Posted: Dec 30, 2024 19:40
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Location:  Canada, Ontario
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In Terms and Policies, SylvainLS writes:

  Well, I never “complained” about too many parts… but I generally tell the seller,
especially as they often miscounted the other way too, for other lots.  So I
complain for some and inform for the others

When I first started buying I did the same, messages about mistakes either way,
cause I keep an exact inventory of most of my Lego and assumed other people also
do. Now I only mention it if it's a big issue, say $1+ parts missing or
extra. Cause even if it's not a problem for me, if I get half a dozen minifigs
unintentionally, it's a heads up that another order might be missing some
lots...
 Author: maggiec View Messages Posted By maggiec
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maggiec (1690)

Location:  USA, California
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In Terms and Policies, cosmicray writes:
  I have received, and filled, the last order. My store is now closed.

Take care, Nita Rae!

Maggie

  
A while back I alluded to the fact that buyers never look at the store terms.
To that end, earlier in the year, I made a small change to my store's terms,
and inserted an Easter Egg. No one ever read it, nor followed the recommended
course of action. I thought at least one person would have found it, but no one
did. My hunch was confirmed.

NR
 Author: Tracyd View Messages Posted By Tracyd
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Location:  USA, Texas
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In Terms and Policies, cosmicray writes:
  I have received, and filled, the last order. My store is now closed.

A while back I alluded to the fact that buyers never look at the store terms.
To that end, earlier in the year, I made a small change to my store's terms,
and inserted an Easter Egg. No one ever read it, nor followed the recommended
course of action. I thought at least one person would have found it, but no one
did. My hunch was confirmed.

NR

I ordered from a shop that had a similar inclusion. But by the time I actually
placed my order I forgot about it, so I didn't get a discount.
 Author: zorbanj View Messages Posted By zorbanj
 Posted: Dec 31, 2024 09:28
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Location:  USA, New Jersey
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In Terms and Policies, cosmicray writes:
  I have received, and filled, the last order. My store is now closed.

A while back I alluded to the fact that buyers never look at the store terms.
To that end, earlier in the year, I made a small change to my store's terms,
and inserted an Easter Egg. No one ever read it, nor followed the recommended
course of action. I thought at least one person would have found it, but no one
did. My hunch was confirmed.



What are you doing with your inventory?