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 Author: ConstructiBrick View Messages Posted By ConstructiBrick
 Posted: Nov 23, 2024 04:07
 Subject: Non Paying buyer
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ConstructiBrick (124)

Location:  Netherlands, Limburg
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Hello all,

I need your help to determine what to do here, I have already experience with
filing Non paying buyer and everything went good, but unfortunately now I have
another one. The problem is all the conditions are met to file it, but when I
try I only have and option to request order cancelation, does someone has experience
with this?

Thank you
 Author: rankster View Messages Posted By rankster
 Posted: Nov 23, 2024 04:16
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rankster (2603)

Location:  Austria, Wien
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There is a chance the buyer marked it as paid. If so open the order, click Edit
Order at the bottom, then set the Payment Status back to Not Yet Paid. Then you
should be able to start NPB if 5 days passed since you sent the invoice.
 Author: ConstructiBrick View Messages Posted By ConstructiBrick
 Posted: Nov 23, 2024 04:23
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Location:  Netherlands, Limburg
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In Help, rankster writes:
  There is a chance the buyer marked it as paid. If so open the order, click Edit
Order at the bottom, then set the Payment Status back to Not Yet Paid. Then you
should be able to start NPB if 5 days passed since you sent the invoice.

Thank you so much! This was exactly the problem! I checked paypal one more time
just for my reassurance and was never paid. Thank you one more time, now it worked
perfectly!
 Author: zorbanj View Messages Posted By zorbanj
 Posted: Nov 23, 2024 08:17
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zorbanj (1022)

Location:  USA, New Jersey
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You're going to keep getting these unless you set up Instant checkout.

In Help, ConstructiBrick writes:
  In Help, rankster writes:
  There is a chance the buyer marked it as paid. If so open the order, click Edit
Order at the bottom, then set the Payment Status back to Not Yet Paid. Then you
should be able to start NPB if 5 days passed since you sent the invoice.

Thank you so much! This was exactly the problem! I checked paypal one more time
just for my reassurance and was never paid. Thank you one more time, now it worked
perfectly!
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Nov 23, 2024 12:26
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Nubs_Select (4779)

Location:  Canada, Ontario
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In Help, rankster writes:
  There is a chance the buyer marked it as paid. If so open the order, click Edit
Order at the bottom, then set the Payment Status back to Not Yet Paid. Then you
should be able to start NPB if 5 days passed since you sent the invoice.

+1, I had the same problem recently and it had me confused until I found the
same thing
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Nov 23, 2024 12:44
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yorbrick (1206)

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In Help, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Help, rankster writes:
  There is a chance the buyer marked it as paid. If so open the order, click Edit
Order at the bottom, then set the Payment Status back to Not Yet Paid. Then you
should be able to start NPB if 5 days passed since you sent the invoice.

+1, I had the same problem recently and it had me confused until I found the
same thing

Just like sellers shouldn't be allowed to set received or complete status,
maybe buyers should not be able to set paid status. They have no way of knowing
payment was received by the seller, even if they think they have paid.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Nov 23, 2024 13:19
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1001bricks (55628)

Location:  France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
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In Help, yorbrick writes:
  In Help, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Help, rankster writes:
  There is a chance the buyer marked it as paid. If so open the order, click Edit
Order at the bottom, then set the Payment Status back to Not Yet Paid. Then you
should be able to start NPB if 5 days passed since you sent the invoice.

+1, I had the same problem recently and it had me confused until I found the
same thing

Just like sellers shouldn't be allowed to set received or complete status,
maybe buyers should not be able to set paid status. They have no way of knowing
payment was received by the seller, even if they think they have paid.

Sometimes it's necessary, I do use it from time to time as a buyer.

Like paying indirect when on site payment is set up (no tax involved), and the
shop seller won't change the way he's set up his modes.

BrickLink allows it, it show a warning message "This should be paid on site,
are you sure", and the I confirm.
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Nov 23, 2024 13:21
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Nubs_Select (4779)

Location:  Canada, Ontario
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Offsite payments are understandable but in cases where the store only accepts
onsite it’s weird to have it as an option
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Nov 23, 2024 13:23
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1001bricks (55628)

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In Help, Nubs_Select writes:
  Offsite payments are understandable but in cases where the store only accepts
onsite it’s weird to have it as an option

It's VERY useful when some shop has set up improperly his Invoice and doesn't
want to change this.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Nov 23, 2024 13:26
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In Help, Nubs_Select writes:
  Offsite payments are understandable but in cases where the store only accepts
onsite it’s weird to have it as an option

For offsite, the buyer has a checkbox instead of the Pay button.

And that should be enough: you say to the seller “eh, I did my job, check your
account.”  Only the seller can tell if/when it arrived.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Nov 23, 2024 13:30
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1001bricks (55628)

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In Help, SylvainLS writes:
  In Help, Nubs_Select writes:
  Offsite payments are understandable but in cases where the store only accepts
onsite it’s weird to have it as an option

For offsite, the buyer has a checkbox instead of the Pay button.

And that should be enough: you say to the seller “eh, I did my job, check your
account.”  Only the seller can tell if/when it arrived.

Problem is in the meaning of "Paid" as it could be "I have paid"
or "I have been paid".

I find it useful anyway, while there could be some abuses from time to time.
But it's easy for a seller to check if the "paid" is legit or not,
so...
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Nov 23, 2024 13:30
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In Help, SylvainLS writes:
  In Help, Nubs_Select writes:
  Offsite payments are understandable but in cases where the store only accepts
onsite it’s weird to have it as an option

For offsite, the buyer has a checkbox instead of the Pay button.

And that should be enough: you say to the seller “eh, I did my job, check your
account.”  Only the seller can tell if/when it arrived.

True true
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Nov 23, 2024 13:19
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In Help, yorbrick writes:
  In Help, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Help, rankster writes:
  There is a chance the buyer marked it as paid. If so open the order, click Edit
Order at the bottom, then set the Payment Status back to Not Yet Paid. Then you
should be able to start NPB if 5 days passed since you sent the invoice.

+1, I had the same problem recently and it had me confused until I found the
same thing

Just like sellers shouldn't be allowed to set received or complete status,
maybe buyers should not be able to set paid status. They have no way of knowing
payment was received by the seller, even if they think they have paid.

Indeed, it was really confusing for a while