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 Author: CE_Tanja View Messages Posted By CE_Tanja
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This is a reminder that we will have an extended Service window today at

PDT : Oct 15th, 8:30 PM - 11 PM

EDT : Oct 15th, 11:30 PM - Oct 16th, 2:00 AM

In order to fully fix the cart issues we are extending the planned Service window.
During the Service window we will need to delete all anonymous carts (carts from
non logged in users).

This is a heads up that if you have a cart that you want to keep but you are
not logged in to your account, you need to log in to preserve your cart. Only
anonymous carts will be impacted.



During the service window the site will not be accessible.



We appreciate your understanding.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Oct 15, 2024 11:56
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In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
  This is a reminder that we will have an extended Service window today at

PDT : Oct 15th, 8:30 PM - 11 PM

EDT : Oct 15th, 11:30 PM - Oct 16th, 2:00 AM

GMT+2 (Berlin, Madrid, Paris…): Oct 16th, 5:30 AM - 8 AM


  In order to fully fix the cart issues we are extending the planned Service window.
During the Service window we will need to delete all anonymous carts (carts from
non logged in users).

This is a heads up that if you have a cart that you want to keep but you are
not logged in to your account, you need to log in to preserve your cart. Only
anonymous carts will be impacted.



During the service window the site will not be accessible.



We appreciate your understanding.
 Author: Give.Me.A.Brick View Messages Posted By Give.Me.A.Brick
 Posted: Oct 15, 2024 16:09
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In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
  This is a reminder that we will have an extended Service window today at

PDT : Oct 15th, 8:30 PM - 11 PM

EDT : Oct 15th, 11:30 PM - Oct 16th, 2:00 AM

GMT+2 (Berlin, Madrid, Paris…): Oct 16th, 5:30 AM - 8 AM


GMT+1 (London, Lisbon, Casablanca): Oct 16th, 4:30 AM - 7:00 PM



  
  In order to fully fix the cart issues we are extending the planned Service window.
During the Service window we will need to delete all anonymous carts (carts from
non logged in users).

This is a heads up that if you have a cart that you want to keep but you are
not logged in to your account, you need to log in to preserve your cart. Only
anonymous carts will be impacted.



During the service window the site will not be accessible.



We appreciate your understanding.
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 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
  This is a reminder that we will have an extended Service window today at

PDT : Oct 15th, 8:30 PM - 11 PM

EDT : Oct 15th, 11:30 PM - Oct 16th, 2:00 AM


If that can help, and in 24hrs format, starting date/time is
(Corrected for more TZ dispersion and days of week en English):

Vancouver, Canada Tue 15 oct 2024 at 20 h 30 PDT
Eastern Time, ET Tue 15 oct 2024 at 23 h 30 EDT
Ottawa, Canada Tue 15 oct 2024 at 23 h 30 EDT
Washington DC, USA Tue 15 oct 2024 at 23 h 30 EDT
London, United Kingdom Wed 16 oct 2024 at 04 h 30 BST
Paris, France Wed 16 oct 2024 at 05 h 30 CEST
Kyiv, Ukraine Wed 16 oct 2024 at 06 h 30 EEST
New Delhi, India Wed 16 oct 2024 at 09 h 00 IST
Hanoi, Vietnam Wed 16 oct 2024 at 10 h 30 ICT
Seoul, South Korea Wed 16 oct 2024 at 12 h 30 KST
Canberra, Australia Wed 16 oct 2024 at 14 h 30 AEDT
Wellington, New Zealand Wed 16 oct 2024 at 16 h 30 NZDT
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Oct 15, 2024 12:51
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In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
  In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
  This is a reminder that we will have an extended Service window today at

PDT : Oct 15th, 8:30 PM - 11 PM

EDT : Oct 15th, 11:30 PM - Oct 16th, 2:00 AM


If that can help, and in 24hrs format, starting date/time is
(Corrected for more TZ dispersion and days of week en English):

Vancouver, Canada Tue 15 oct 2024 at 20 h 30 PDT
Eastern Time, ET Tue 15 oct 2024 at 23 h 30 EDT
Ottawa, Canada Tue 15 oct 2024 at 23 h 30 EDT
Washington DC, USA Tue 15 oct 2024 at 23 h 30 EDT
London, United Kingdom Wed 16 oct 2024 at 04 h 30 BST
Paris, France Wed 16 oct 2024 at 05 h 30 CEST
Kyiv, Ukraine Wed 16 oct 2024 at 06 h 30 EEST
New Delhi, India Wed 16 oct 2024 at 09 h 00 IST
Hanoi, Vietnam Wed 16 oct 2024 at 10 h 30 ICT
Seoul, South Korea Wed 16 oct 2024 at 12 h 30 KST
Canberra, Australia Wed 16 oct 2024 at 14 h 30 AEDT
Wellington, New Zealand Wed 16 oct 2024 at 16 h 30 NZDT


BTW, I'm puzzled BrickLink is unable to process this maintenance at the same
time in all Countries! That must be due to spaghetti code...
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
 Posted: Oct 15, 2024 12:53
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In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
  In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
  In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
  This is a reminder that we will have an extended Service window today at

PDT : Oct 15th, 8:30 PM - 11 PM

EDT : Oct 15th, 11:30 PM - Oct 16th, 2:00 AM


If that can help, and in 24hrs format, starting date/time is
(Corrected for more TZ dispersion and days of week en English):

Vancouver, Canada Tue 15 oct 2024 at 20 h 30 PDT
Eastern Time, ET Tue 15 oct 2024 at 23 h 30 EDT
Ottawa, Canada Tue 15 oct 2024 at 23 h 30 EDT
Washington DC, USA Tue 15 oct 2024 at 23 h 30 EDT
London, United Kingdom Wed 16 oct 2024 at 04 h 30 BST
Paris, France Wed 16 oct 2024 at 05 h 30 CEST
Kyiv, Ukraine Wed 16 oct 2024 at 06 h 30 EEST
New Delhi, India Wed 16 oct 2024 at 09 h 00 IST
Hanoi, Vietnam Wed 16 oct 2024 at 10 h 30 ICT
Seoul, South Korea Wed 16 oct 2024 at 12 h 30 KST
Canberra, Australia Wed 16 oct 2024 at 14 h 30 AEDT
Wellington, New Zealand Wed 16 oct 2024 at 16 h 30 NZDT


BTW, I'm puzzled BrickLink is unable to process this maintenance at the same
time in all Countries! That must be due to spaghetti code...

Weird, your numbers may be wrong in that case
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
  BTW, I'm puzzled BrickLink is unable to process this maintenance at the same
time in all Countries! That must be due to spaghetti code...

This is BrickLink we're talking about here, not Père Noël!
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
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In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
  In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
  In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
  This is a reminder that we will have an extended Service window today at

PDT : Oct 15th, 8:30 PM - 11 PM

EDT : Oct 15th, 11:30 PM - Oct 16th, 2:00 AM


If that can help, and in 24hrs format, starting date/time is
(Corrected for more TZ dispersion and days of week en English):

Vancouver, Canada Tue 15 oct 2024 at 20 h 30 PDT
Eastern Time, ET Tue 15 oct 2024 at 23 h 30 EDT
Ottawa, Canada Tue 15 oct 2024 at 23 h 30 EDT
Washington DC, USA Tue 15 oct 2024 at 23 h 30 EDT
London, United Kingdom Wed 16 oct 2024 at 04 h 30 BST
Paris, France Wed 16 oct 2024 at 05 h 30 CEST
Kyiv, Ukraine Wed 16 oct 2024 at 06 h 30 EEST
New Delhi, India Wed 16 oct 2024 at 09 h 00 IST
Hanoi, Vietnam Wed 16 oct 2024 at 10 h 30 ICT
Seoul, South Korea Wed 16 oct 2024 at 12 h 30 KST
Canberra, Australia Wed 16 oct 2024 at 14 h 30 AEDT
Wellington, New Zealand Wed 16 oct 2024 at 16 h 30 NZDT


BTW, I'm puzzled BrickLink is unable to process this maintenance at the same
time in all Countries! That must be due to spaghetti code...

 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Oct 15, 2024 14:14
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In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
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BTW, I'm puzzled BrickLink is unable to process this maintenance at the same
time in all Countries! That must be due to spaghetti code...

Einstein proved there’s no such thing as “at the same time”
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
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In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
  […]
BTW, I'm puzzled BrickLink is unable to process this maintenance at the same
time in all Countries! That must be due to spaghetti code...

Einstein proved there’s no such thing as “at the same time”

Very good But... proved?

If you're referring to the portion of his Special Theory of Relativity that
is Relativity of Simultaneity, by definition it is a theory and therefore not
considered proven or "proved". Further your "no such thing" statement,
besides not being aligned with the spirit of Einstein the theory itself does
allow for such to take place depending on the reference of the observer.

But hey, don't let me throw cold water onto you're fun here. I really
dig reading these types of forum back n'forth
 Author: BrickDeals View Messages Posted By BrickDeals
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In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
  This is a reminder that we will have an extended Service window today at

PDT : Oct 15th, 8:30 PM - 11 PM

EDT : Oct 15th, 11:30 PM - Oct 16th, 2:00 AM

In order to fully fix the cart issues we are extending the planned Service window.
During the Service window we will need to delete all anonymous carts (carts from
non logged in users).

This is a heads up that if you have a cart that you want to keep but you are
not logged in to your account, you need to log in to preserve your cart. Only
anonymous carts will be impacted.



During the service window the site will not be accessible.



We appreciate your understanding.

Why does the server go down for 10 minutes every night?

Seems odd, I can't think of any other site that does this.
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
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In Administrative, BrickDeals writes:
  In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
  This is a reminder that we will have an extended Service window today at

PDT : Oct 15th, 8:30 PM - 11 PM

EDT : Oct 15th, 11:30 PM - Oct 16th, 2:00 AM

In order to fully fix the cart issues we are extending the planned Service window.
During the Service window we will need to delete all anonymous carts (carts from
non logged in users).

This is a heads up that if you have a cart that you want to keep but you are
not logged in to your account, you need to log in to preserve your cart. Only
anonymous carts will be impacted.



During the service window the site will not be accessible.



We appreciate your understanding.

Why does the server go down for 10 minutes every night?

Seems odd, I can't think of any other site that does this.

They do that to mix the spaghetti code around and add more sauce to keep it fresh

 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
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In Administrative, BrickDeals writes:
  In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
  This is a reminder that we will have an extended Service window today at

PDT : Oct 15th, 8:30 PM - 11 PM

EDT : Oct 15th, 11:30 PM - Oct 16th, 2:00 AM

In order to fully fix the cart issues we are extending the planned Service window.
During the Service window we will need to delete all anonymous carts (carts from
non logged in users).

This is a heads up that if you have a cart that you want to keep but you are
not logged in to your account, you need to log in to preserve your cart. Only
anonymous carts will be impacted.



During the service window the site will not be accessible.



We appreciate your understanding.

Why does the server go down for 10 minutes every night?

Seems odd, I can't think of any other site that does this.

It's because many of the aggregate values, such as average price and statistics,
are calculated once a day. They just reserve a timeslot a day for this database
intense operation, without any interference of sales transactions. Remember that
this site was originally designed as small scale hobby project over twenty years
ago and the database design reflects this.
Also, having this reserved timeslot allows for any database update that would
not do well when all kinds of transactions were taking place at the same time.
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In Administrative, hpoort writes:
  In Administrative, BrickDeals writes:
  In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
  This is a reminder that we will have an extended Service window today at

PDT : Oct 15th, 8:30 PM - 11 PM

EDT : Oct 15th, 11:30 PM - Oct 16th, 2:00 AM

In order to fully fix the cart issues we are extending the planned Service window.
During the Service window we will need to delete all anonymous carts (carts from
non logged in users).

This is a heads up that if you have a cart that you want to keep but you are
not logged in to your account, you need to log in to preserve your cart. Only
anonymous carts will be impacted.



During the service window the site will not be accessible.



We appreciate your understanding.

Why does the server go down for 10 minutes every night?

Seems odd, I can't think of any other site that does this.

It's because many of the aggregate values, such as average price and statistics,
are calculated once a day. They just reserve a timeslot a day for this database
intense operation, without any interference of sales transactions. Remember that
this site was originally designed as small scale hobby project over twenty years
ago and the database design reflects this.
Also, having this reserved timeslot allows for any database update that would
not do well when all kinds of transactions were taking place at the same time.

Thank you for explaining this. I was always curious as to the reasoning.

I suppose LEGO investing in a more modern system might break it?
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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In Administrative, BrickDeals writes:
  In Administrative, hpoort writes:
  In Administrative, BrickDeals writes:
  In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
  This is a reminder that we will have an extended Service window today at

PDT : Oct 15th, 8:30 PM - 11 PM

EDT : Oct 15th, 11:30 PM - Oct 16th, 2:00 AM

In order to fully fix the cart issues we are extending the planned Service window.
During the Service window we will need to delete all anonymous carts (carts from
non logged in users).

This is a heads up that if you have a cart that you want to keep but you are
not logged in to your account, you need to log in to preserve your cart. Only
anonymous carts will be impacted.



During the service window the site will not be accessible.



We appreciate your understanding.

Why does the server go down for 10 minutes every night?

Seems odd, I can't think of any other site that does this.

It's because many of the aggregate values, such as average price and statistics,
are calculated once a day. They just reserve a timeslot a day for this database
intense operation, without any interference of sales transactions. Remember that
this site was originally designed as small scale hobby project over twenty years
ago and the database design reflects this.
Also, having this reserved timeslot allows for any database update that would
not do well when all kinds of transactions were taking place at the same time.

Thank you for explaining this. I was always curious as to the reasoning.

I suppose LEGO investing in a more modern system might break it?

I imagine any extra returns from improving the site by recoding from scratch
are simply not worth the costs. LEGO bought bricklink to expand the AFOL Designer
Program (now Bricklink Designer Program). And that has been a success, look at
how much income that is bringing in. The secondary market side of the business
and the profit it generates (remembering how many staff they have for that part)
appears to be a side issue. Yet it is important to keep BL asan active market,
as if BL is not active it is likely the BDP also dies in its current form.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
  This is a reminder that we will have an extended Service window today at

PDT : Oct 15th, 8:30 PM - 11 PM

EDT : Oct 15th, 11:30 PM - Oct 16th, 2:00 AM

In order to fully fix the cart issues we are extending the planned Service window.
During the Service window we will need to delete all anonymous carts (carts from
non logged in users).


Is it me or BrickLink is faster than ever, or just by chance as of right now?

In any way, congratulations, the work seems to have been sucessful!
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In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
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Is it me or BrickLink is faster than ever, or just by chance as of right now?

In any way, congratulations, the work seems to have been sucessful!

You want to jinx it?  Because that‘s the way you jinx it!
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In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
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Is it me or BrickLink is faster than ever, or just by chance as of right now?

In any way, congratulations, the work seems to have been sucessful!

You want to jinx it?  Because that‘s the way you jinx it!

Normally computer things is technical, a science - not voodoo.

But I must admit, sometimes...
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In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
  In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
  […]
Is it me or BrickLink is faster than ever, or just by chance as of right now?

In any way, congratulations, the work seems to have been sucessful!

You want to jinx it?  Because that‘s the way you jinx it!

Normally computer things is technical, a science - not voodoo.

But I must admit, sometimes...

Key word: “normally,” the word that IT people use the most